Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] DEADLINE EXTENDED: Wikimania 2017 call for submissions

2017-04-09 Thread phoebe ayers
Thanks Joseph! Just a followup reminder that submissions are due TOMORROW.

If you have submitted a proposal already but it's marked as a "draft",
please finalize it and mark it as "completed" by tomorrow as well. (If you
are a submitter you may already have email from me about this).

thanks everyone! We are going to have a great program this year!

Phoebe
(for the program committee)



On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> REMINDER: Deadline for submitting presentations, panels,
> roundtables and workshops to Wikimania is *April 10*.
>
> You have TWO days remaining.
>
> The deadline for posters and birds-of-a-feather sessions remains *May 15*.
>
> Please see below for the call for submissions for Wikimania, and submit
> your ideas! Please also note, for those who have already submitted, there
> is now a field in the registration form for "completed" or "in-progress"
> submission. When you are ready to have your submission reviewed, please
> note that it is "completed". Thank you!
>
> Please contact us with any questions: wikimania-prog...@wikimedia.org
>
> Seddon
>
> Phoebe
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 10:10 AM, phoebe ayers <phoebe.w...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > > I'm very pleased to send out the Wikimania Montréal Call for
> Submissions,
> > > which can be found in French here:
> > > https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/fr
> > > and in English here:
> > > https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/en
> > >
> > > On behalf of the Wikimania programme committee,
> > > Phoebe Ayers
> > > -
> > >
> > > Que vous soyez un membre de la communauté de l’un des projets Wikimédia
> > > (tels que Wikipédia, Wikibooks, Wikidata, Wikisource, Wikinews,
> Wikimedia
> > > Commons, Wiktionnaire, MediaWiki ou autres), un créateur de contenu
> libre
> > > ou un consommateur, nous recevrons avec plaisir votre proposition pour
> > une
> > > session lors de Wikimania 2017.
> > >
> > > *dates importantes*
> > >
> > > Appel aux propositions ouvert : 2 février 2017
> > > Date limite de soumission des présentations (conférence, panneau, table
> > > ronde et atelier) : *15 avril 2017*
> > > Date limite de soumission des brefs exposés, affiches et réunions
> > > d’oiseaux de la même plume : 15 mai 2017.
> > > Notification d’acceptation des présentations : 20 avril 2017
> > > Notification d’acceptation des brefs exposés, affiches et réunions
> > > d’oiseaux de la même plume : 10 juin 2017
> > >
> > > *Types de soumissions & Comment soumettre: *https://wikimania2017.
> > > wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/fr
> > >
> > > *Des questions ?* Merci de contacter le Comité du programme par
> > > wikimania-program(à)wikimedia.org.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Whether you are a community member of one of the Wikimedia projects
> (such
> > > as Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikidata, Wikisource, Wikinews, Wikimedia
> > Commons,
> > > Wiktionary, MediaWiki or others), or a fellow open content creator or
> > > consumer, we welcome your proposal for a session at Wikimania 2017.
> > >
> > > *Important dates*
> > >
> > > Call for proposals opens: February 2, 2017
> > > Deadline for submitting presentation (lecture, panel, roundtable and
> > > workshop) submissions: *April 10, 2017*
> > > Deadline for submitting lightning talks, poster, and birds of a feather
> > > submissions: May 15, 2017
> > > Notification of acceptance for presentations: April 20, 2017
> > > Notification of acceptance for lightning talks, poster and birds of a
> > > feather submissions: June 10, 2017
> > >
> > > *Submission types & how to submit:* https://wikimania2017.
> > > wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/en
> > >
> > > *Any questions?* Please contact the Programme Committee at
> > > wikimania-program at wikimedia.org
> > >
> >
> >
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[Wikitech-l] Fwd: DEADLINE EXTENDED: Wikimania 2017 call for submissions

2017-03-26 Thread phoebe ayers
FYI all: deadline for presentations has been extended to April 10.

-- Forwarded message --
From: phoebe ayers <phoebe.w...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 9:53 PM
Subject: DEADLINE EXTENDED: Wikimania 2017 call for submissions
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org>, "Wikimania
general list (open subscription)" <wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org>


Dear all,

We have extended the deadline for submitting presentations, panels,
roundtables and workshops to Wikimania until *April 10*. The deadline for
posters and birds-of-a-feather sessions remains *May 15*.

Please see below for the call for submissions for Wikimania, and submit
your ideas! Please also note, for those who have already submitted, there
is now a field in the registration form for "completed" or "in-progress"
submission. When you are ready to have your submission reviewed, please
note that it is "completed". Thank you!

Please contact us with any questions: wikimania-prog...@wikimedia.org

best,
Phoebe

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 10:10 AM, phoebe ayers <phoebe.w...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> All,
> I'm very pleased to send out the Wikimania Montréal Call for Submissions,
> which can be found in French here:
> https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/fr
> and in English here:
> https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/en
>
> On behalf of the Wikimania programme committee,
> Phoebe Ayers
> -
>
> Que vous soyez un membre de la communauté de l’un des projets Wikimédia
> (tels que Wikipédia, Wikibooks, Wikidata, Wikisource, Wikinews, Wikimedia
> Commons, Wiktionnaire, MediaWiki ou autres), un créateur de contenu libre
> ou un consommateur, nous recevrons avec plaisir votre proposition pour une
> session lors de Wikimania 2017.
>
> *dates importantes*
>
> Appel aux propositions ouvert : 2 février 2017
> Date limite de soumission des présentations (conférence, panneau, table
> ronde et atelier) : *15 avril 2017*
> Date limite de soumission des brefs exposés, affiches et réunions
> d’oiseaux de la même plume : 15 mai 2017.
> Notification d’acceptation des présentations : 20 avril 2017
> Notification d’acceptation des brefs exposés, affiches et réunions
> d’oiseaux de la même plume : 10 juin 2017
>
> *Types de soumissions & Comment soumettre: *https://wikimania2017.wikimedi
> a.org/wiki/Submissions/fr
>
> *Des questions ?* Merci de contacter le Comité du programme par
> wikimania-program(à)wikimedia.org.
>
> 
>
> Whether you are a community member of one of the Wikimedia projects (such
> as Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikidata, Wikisource, Wikinews, Wikimedia Commons,
> Wiktionary, MediaWiki or others), or a fellow open content creator or
> consumer, we welcome your proposal for a session at Wikimania 2017.
>
> *Important dates*
>
> Call for proposals opens: February 2, 2017
> Deadline for submitting presentation (lecture, panel, roundtable and
> workshop) submissions: *April 10, 2017*
> Deadline for submitting lightning talks, poster, and birds of a feather
> submissions: May 15, 2017
> Notification of acceptance for presentations: April 20, 2017
> Notification of acceptance for lightning talks, poster and birds of a
> feather submissions: June 10, 2017
>
> *Submission types & how to submit:* 
> https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/en
>
>
> *Any questions?* Please contact the Programme Committee at
> wikimania-program at wikimedia.org
>



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Re: [Wikitech-l] E-mail login to wiki - needs feedback

2015-02-22 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 20/02/15 00:58, phoebe ayers wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm the one who started that bug-now-task a while back, and for
 context, it was based directly on user feedback. What MzM says above
 is right. I was working with a casual (but quite good) editor who said
 to me well, I'd edit that Wikipedia page, but I don't edit very often
 and I can never remember what my login is, since my usual login was
 taken. But if I could enter my email address, it would be a lot easier
 and I'd be more likely to just do it.


 It looks like it would be enough to provide a send forgotten username to
 this email feature.
 Which is bug 13015 [1], fixed in 2011 [2] and afaik never enabled.

 As it provides a list of usernames, there's no issue with
 too-many-usernames, which to use for login?

Hmm. I just tried asking for a password reset with my email [on
English Wikipedia] and what I got was a list of temporary passwords
for all the accounts associated with that email (a bunch, in my case,
since I registered variations on my full name). The email lists the
username and the temp password for each account.

But yes, it's not clear that link can be used for retrieving login as
well as password. Changing the text to 'Forgot your password or
login?' could help. (Of course, checking your email and resetting the
password is still an extra step for the infrequent editor).

-- phoebe

p.s. this is an old issue; that was still likely an unfixed bug when I
first filed it!

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user pages deployed to all wikis

2015-02-20 Thread phoebe ayers
Hooray! This is so cool.

/goes to edit her meta userpage...

-- phoebe

p.s. re: babel, my absolute favorite use is on Wikidata, where you can
add babel templates to your userpage and then get the appropriate
fields to add stuff in that language :) I love showing that to people
who are getting started on Wikidata.


On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello!

 Global user pages have now been deployed to all public wikis for users with
 CentralAuth accounts. Documentation on the feature is available at
 mediawiki.org[1], and if you notice any bugs please file them in
 Phabricator[2].

 Thanks to all the people who helped with the creation and deployment
 (incomplete, and in no particular order): Jack Phoenix  ShoutWiki, Isarra,
 MZMcBride, Nemo, Quiddity, Aaron S, Matt F, James F, and everyone who helped
 with testing it while it was in beta.

 [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:GlobalUserPage
 [2]
 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/?projects=PHID-PROJ-j536clyie42uptgjkft7


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Re: [Wikitech-l] E-mail login to wiki - needs feedback

2015-02-19 Thread phoebe ayers
Hi all,

I'm the one who started that bug-now-task a while back, and for
context, it was based directly on user feedback. What MzM says above
is right. I was working with a casual (but quite good) editor who said
to me well, I'd edit that Wikipedia page, but I don't edit very often
and I can never remember what my login is, since my usual login was
taken. But if I could enter my email address, it would be a lot easier
and I'd be more likely to just do it.

Struck by the idea that this was a barrier to editing, I asked around
and got similar feedback from other people, for both public and
private mediawikis. So I submitted the bug for consideration. I know
it's difficult and there's been a lot of discussion on how to
technically do it, but I think the underlying need definitely still
exists.

thanks,
Phoebe


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Tony Thomas 01tonytho...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Before someone starts with a proposal for the proposed-tech-project 'Allow
 user login with e-mail address'[1], is there still community consensus for
 the same ? I personally think its a must-have for MediaWiki, as e-mail
 address is easy to remember than a complex username. Currently multiple
 users can sign-up with the same e-mail id - which would possibly be a
 blocker, and can be fixed. Thanks to MzMcbride, we have an RFC[2] too on
 the same.

 [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T30085
 [2]
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Login_via_e-mail_address

 Thanks,
 Tony Thomas http://tttwrites.wordpress.com/
 FOSS@Amrita http://foss.amrita.ac.in

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Deprecating print-on-demand functionality

2014-07-14 Thread phoebe ayers
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Luca Martinelli
 martinellil...@gmail.com wrote:
  so the Book Creator will still be active, maybe under another name,
  maybe with another engine, but still active?

 Same name and functionality, just the Order a printed book feature
 will disappear.

 Erik


That is great -- the book creator and PDF tools are both good tools, and
are very handy for projects big and small, especially projects like
Wikibooks and Wikivoyage that need to make offline reading easy. (I have
actually used both tools the most on internal wikis; when I need to catch
up on big discussions, I've made many pdfs from meta that I can read
offline.)

It was a worthwhile experiment with Pediapress, and I'm glad they stuck
with it as long as they did!

best,
-- Phoebe
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Top Level Design, LLC greedy registrar!

2014-04-04 Thread phoebe ayers
 On 4 April 2014 09:37, VP Singh vpsing...@gmail.com wrote:

  I want to ask wikimedia , about the .wiki tld. I am AN IT expert and I
  was going to register science.wiiki (example) in epa ( early phase
  access) which will be in may for my firm.
 
  I was surprised to find that it was already registered by Top Level
 Design.
  Visit: http://whois.domaintools.com/science.wiki.



It is true that wiki is a generic term but it is slightly more complex than
that. Top Level Design are the ones who initially applied to ICANN for
.wiki to be created.
see http://icannwiki.com/index.php/Top_Level_Design
and
http://dotwiki.org/

I don't know exactly how it will work, but it seems that .wiki is not yet
available for individual application  -- that starts in May:
http://nic.wiki/sunrise-opens-corporate-wiki-strategies/

Incidentally, Top Level Design is run by Ray King, who has been a long-time
part of the wiki scene in Portland. In addition to running domain-related
businesses, he genuinely loves wikis :) He is, however, totally
unaffiliated with Wikimedia.

-- Phoebe


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread phoebe ayers
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Question for the group:

 Would an officially supported general-purpose MediaWiki hosting service be
 useful to people who would like to run wikis, but don't have the time,
 expertise, or resources to maintain their own installation?


I have needed such a thing for wikis for small non-profits/library
associations that I've been involved with, where I didn't want to host it
myself (because I didn't want to take personal responsibility for the site
of an organization that I might not stay involved with, and because I don't
really have the chops to deal with security and spam issues); but also did
not have a good hosting option with a larger organization or library, which
I find are often not very familiar with mediawiki (e.g. I've been trying to
get our library systems dept. to install some basic extensions for our
internal mediawiki for a couple years now).

There's not a lot of money in that particular use case, unfortunately, but
I imagine I'm not alone in that need either.

-- phoebe

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: C. Scott Ananian joins Wikimedia as Senior Features Engineer

2013-07-11 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Terry Chay tc...@wikimedia.org wrote:


 Scott lives and works in Cambridge, MA[5]. He is a square dancer[6] and
 theatrical lighting designer. I have it on good word that he’s a demon on
 MIT Mystery Hunt [7]—not sure if he’s on the same team as our Board Members
 or not [8], but if not…


Welcome, Scott! And yes, Team Codex features WMF board members (2.5*) and
advisory board members (2)... innumerable editors... and now features
engineers... things are looking up for hunt/world domination!

-- phoebe

* I'm the .5. I am not very good at the mystery hunt.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Not much usage of the Visual Editor?

2013-05-11 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:29 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well, that's disconcerting - is this actually all the edits with the
  Visual Editor?
 
 
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangestagfilter=visualeditor
 
  I'll have to make a point of hammering on it more ;-)
 

 Yes the RecentChanges tag should be comprehensive.

 I think part of this is due to the opt in nature of the tool, and the
 rest is due to some well-known limitations. It doesn't yet handle
 templates, images, or references very well, and it's pretty slow on English
 Wikipedia still. I think the VisualEditor and Parsoid team are aware of all
 these, and have work in progress or on the near-term roadmap.


Yeah, I expect the overlap between people who follow wikimedia news enough
to know they can opt-in and people who do fairly complex formatting work
is pretty high. E.G. I have it installed, but rarely use it because most of
my on-wiki work is fixing references, which the VE can't cope with yet (or,
it's simply faster for me to do it by hand, as I can write markup in my
sleep).

Would it be helpful for the dev team to have more people using it on a
regular basis?
-- phoebe

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment highlights - week of April 8th

2013-04-08 Thread phoebe ayers
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 8 April 2013 12:51, Brad Jorsch bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   I do not think it is particularly obvious outside of our project the
 way
   that Wikidata is being weaponized as the reason for attempting to
 force
   changes in local consensus about infoboxes (their existence and
 content)
   with respect to specific article categories or even individual
 articles.
 
  It's not obvious within the project either, at least for someone like
  me who hasn't been following the endless arguments over whether some
  WikiProject should be able to decide not to use infoboxes on their
  articles and whether they're ganging up to prevent any local consensus
  to use infoboxes on their articles, etc, etc, etc.
 
  Personally, I don't consider that people making spurious arguments
  based on the existence of wikidata is a problem with the planned
  wikidata phase 2 deployment.
 


 Why do you think those arguments are spurious?  Just because you don't
 agree with them doesn't make them spurious.  Those articles belong a lot
 more to the editors of each of the Wikipedias than they do to Wikidata, or
 Wikimedia, that's for certain.


Not agreeing with the arguments of some editors *also* doesn't mean the
entire engineering and operators department is doing it wrong, or that
the Wikidata project (which is not developed by WMF, incidentally, and is
having its own interesting discussions *among its own community* as we
speak) somehow is not capable of also debating these questions.

I do not agree with your arguments, Risker. I think Wikidata is great and I
am happy it has been deployed (or will be soon). I think it will enable
lots and lots of super cool things in the years to come, and having over
the years lived through the deployments of commons, categories, new skins
and who knows what else I am also confident, along with Denny, that we will
figure it out in the wild as we go.

That viewpoint doesn't make me a bad Wikipedian, and it doesn't mean I'm
not willing to hear you and others who disagree out (and I'm perfectly
willing to learn about the infobox debates, which are actually new to me --
somehow in 10 years of editing I've managed to avoid this hotbed of
disagreement). But do please bear in mind that in your messages you are
telling *the entire* technical list, including all the paid development
staff and the longtime technical volunteers, which includes pretty much
everyone who has written MediaWiki over the years, that they don't know how
wiki development works. In my opinion that's pretty patronizing, and is not
helping your argument -- which, as far as I can tell, is that Wikidata
phase II shouldn't be enabled on en:wp except after a community-wide RFC,
correct? As far as that goes, since you are so strongly arguing for the
autonomy of en:wp, I think the ball's in the en:wp court; an en:wp editor
should be the one to organize an RFC. If the results skew strongly to one
side or another, the WMF has listened to such things in the past.
Personally I don't see the need for an RFC at this point in time, but I
certainly don't begrudge anyone else the right to organize one, and I will
happily vote accordingly.

-- phoebe


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On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 8 April 2013 12:51, Brad Jorsch bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   I do not think it is particularly obvious outside of our project the
 way
   that Wikidata is being weaponized as the reason for attempting to
 force
   changes in local consensus about infoboxes (their existence and
 content)
   with respect to specific article categories or even individual
 articles.
 
  It's not obvious within the project either, at least for someone like
  me who hasn't been following the endless arguments over whether some
  WikiProject should be able to decide not to use infoboxes on their
  articles and whether they're ganging up to prevent any local consensus
  to use infoboxes on their articles, etc, etc, etc.
 
  Personally, I don't consider that people making spurious arguments
  based on the existence of wikidata is a problem with the planned
  wikidata phase 2 deployment.
 


 Why do you think those arguments are spurious?  Just because you don't
 agree with them doesn't make them spurious.  Those articles belong a lot
 more to the editors of each of the Wikipedias than they do to Wikidata, or
 Wikimedia, that's for certain.

 It's disturbing that even at the same time as the engineering and
 operations departments are working so hard to professionalize their work,
 to bring themselves up to industry standards, to properly staff themselves
 with people who understand not just the technical side, but also the
 content side - that 

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment highlights - week of April 8th

2013-04-08 Thread phoebe ayers
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:03 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 8 April 2013 12:51, Brad Jorsch bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   I do not think it is particularly obvious outside of our project the
 way
   that Wikidata is being weaponized as the reason for attempting to
 force
   changes in local consensus about infoboxes (their existence and
 content)
   with respect to specific article categories or even individual
 articles.
 
  It's not obvious within the project either, at least for someone like
  me who hasn't been following the endless arguments over whether some
  WikiProject should be able to decide not to use infoboxes on their
  articles and whether they're ganging up to prevent any local consensus
  to use infoboxes on their articles, etc, etc, etc.
 
  Personally, I don't consider that people making spurious arguments
  based on the existence of wikidata is a problem with the planned
  wikidata phase 2 deployment.
 


 Why do you think those arguments are spurious?  Just because you don't
 agree with them doesn't make them spurious.  Those articles belong a lot
 more to the editors of each of the Wikipedias than they do to Wikidata, or
 Wikimedia, that's for certain.


 Not agreeing with the arguments of some editors *also* doesn't mean the
 entire engineering and operators department is doing it wrong, or that
 the Wikidata project (which is not developed by WMF, incidentally, and is
 having its own interesting discussions *among its own community* as we
 speak) somehow is not capable of also debating these questions.

 I do not agree with your arguments, Risker. I think Wikidata is great and
 I am happy it has been deployed (or will be soon). I think it will enable
 lots and lots of super cool things in the years to come, and having over
 the years lived through the deployments of commons, categories, new skins
 and who knows what else I am also confident, along with Denny, that we will
 figure it out in the wild as we go.

 That viewpoint doesn't make me a bad Wikipedian, and it doesn't mean I'm
 not willing to hear you and others who disagree out (and I'm perfectly
 willing to learn about the infobox debates, which are actually new to me --
 somehow in 10 years of editing I've managed to avoid this hotbed of
 disagreement). But do please bear in mind that in your messages you are
 telling *the entire* technical list, including all the paid development
 staff and the longtime technical volunteers, which includes pretty much
 everyone who has written MediaWiki over the years, that they don't know how
 wiki development works. In my opinion that's pretty patronizing, and is not
 helping your argument -- which, as far as I can tell, is that Wikidata
 phase II shouldn't be enabled on en:wp except after a community-wide RFC,
 correct? As far as that goes, since you are so strongly arguing for the
 autonomy of en:wp, I think the ball's in the en:wp court; an en:wp editor
 should be the one to organize an RFC. If the results skew strongly to one
 side or another, the WMF has listened to such things in the past.
 Personally I don't see the need for an RFC at this point in time, but I
 certainly don't begrudge anyone else the right to organize one, and I will
 happily vote accordingly.

 -- phoebe

 And just to add to this, it looks like the best place to propose such an
RFC, or to discuss Wikidata on the English Wikipedia, is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikidata

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment highlights - week of April 8th

2013-04-05 Thread phoebe ayers
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 5 April 2013 19:07, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de
 wrote:

  On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
   Sorry, I don't know what this means. I thought Wikidata was already
   deployed to the English Wikipedia (and possibly other projects as
 well).
 
  I've posted an announcement with more details on the technical village
  pump at
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Wikidata_phase_2_is_coming_soon
  Let me know if anything is still unclear so I can clarify.
 
 
  Cheers
  Lydia
 
 

 Lydia, could you please point me to the discussion on *English Wikipedia*
 where the community indicated an interest in deploying this software?
 Infoboxes and sourcing to another website completely outside the control of
 English Wikipedia is a rather big issue, and I would expect to see a
 Request for Comment with at least 200-300 participants.

 Risker/Anne


In my opinion, as a casual Wikidata editor and not-so-casual Wikipedia
editor, I think the Commons analogy continues to hold up pretty well.
Commons exists. We can use it, as a project. We don't *have* to (and indeed
don't always, on en:wp, where fair use images are accepted). As I
understand it, the same is true with Wikidata -- it will be around, if and
when it seems appropriate to use. Of course Commons and Wikidata will both
be more useful and more awesome the more projects do use them. But my very
non-technical understanding of this deployment is that basically we made
the projects able to see that Wikidata exists (correct me if I'm wrong!)

Now as far as I can tell there's a whole lot of work yet to do in order to
figure out how exactly one might link to data or produce an infobox and
what that might look like -- deployment does not seem to mean ready for
prime-time, yet -- and of course the data-building itself is just barely
getting started. Best practices for infoboxes does seem like a project-wide
RFC to me. But hopefully, when we get to that point, wikidata will be a
useful option.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing project ideas for GSOC

2013-03-22 Thread phoebe ayers
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Guillaume Paumier
gpaum...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Hi,

 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Many of the ideas listed there are too generic (Write an extension),
 improvements of existing features (Improve Extension:CSS)

 This may sound naive, but why are improvements of existing features
 discarded? My thinking was that, if the student didn't have to start
 from scratch, they would have more time to polish their work and make
 it fit with our strict standards, hence making it more likely for
 their work to be merged and deployed.

I have some ideas for existing features and extensions that could use
a good summer's work, and I just added one of them to the page,
despite not having any ability to personally mentor -- I assumed if
there was interest it could get picked up by someone. I hope this is
ok!

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Adam Wight joins Wikimedia as Fundraising Engineer

2012-06-08 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Terry Chay tc...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Hello everyone,

        It’s with great pleasure that I’m announcing that Adam Wight has 
 joined the Wikimedia Foundation as a Fundraising Engineer.

        Before joining us, Adam was customizing open-source web services for 
 non-profits at Giant Rabbit. This makes him the first Fundraising engineer to 
 be familiar with CiviCRM **before** joining the team — in fact, he has 
 contributed event registration workflow and other minor changes back to the 
 project. :-) He also did work on the Atako Project (the first open-source 
 Google Gadget directory), “Halfway Library” to share and review books, and 
 “Prokaryote” a evolution/behavior patterns simulator used in university and 
 high school classrooms. If you ever snuck into the Unix lab to get their 
 workstations running SETI@home, you probably used his code (he wrote the 
 X-windows implementation). He has recently contributed an Offline extension 
 for Mediawiki, and he is helping with a distributed wiki project OneCommons.

Welcome Adam! All very cool projects :)


        On the side, he’s involved with a number of education and agricultural 
 projects, including being the programmer at the Multinational Exchange for 
 Sustainable Agriculture and is a cofounder and worker at The Local food coop 
 at UC Berkeley. He also is obsessed with blacksmithing (no, this is not a new 
 coding process — I mean that he’s a blacksmith and has been a carpenter and 
 housepainter).

We should start having local foodie/Wikipedian dinners! Edit this eggplant?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] The bugtracker problem, again

2012-05-13 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12/05/12 18:17, David Gerard wrote:
 Discussion on Oliver Keyes' blog:

     http://quominus.org/archives/714

 He's coming from the perspective of liaison with newbies. Read the comments.

 I have to say it's the first time I met him.

 I'll try to summarise his points below with my comments:

 1a) The steps are not clear.

 Solution: Make the Enter a new bug report link of
 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ much bigger.

 The intermediate page asking you to login is not cool, but I think
 that's a clear enough path.


 1b) There's no indication that your login is your email.

 Granted. This can be confusing. Specially for the perspective of a
 mediawiki user.
 The only positive point might be that, if you have recently registered,
 you probably remember that your email is your login.

 The email sent by bugzilla does help, although it isn't explicit, either:
 To use the wonders of Bugzilla, you can use the following:

  E-mail address: platoni...@gmail.com
        Password: HPqd4NwIu

 Proposal: Add a message at the front page noting that you need a
 different login for bugzilla, that it is our email, and it'll be
 publicly visible.

+1. This is probably the biggest problem I have using bugzilla as an
occasional, non-technical user :)

If there's any way to tie the login to SUL that would be cool, but
just providing more explanatory messages would be helpful!

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Patch submitted: authentication on Wikipedia via user_name OR user_email

2012-02-22 Thread phoebe ayers
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Nicolas Brouard brou...@ined.fr wrote:



 Thank you for your support. I just submitted a complete patch entitled Can't 
 authenticate using my mother language username (UNICODE) when I only have (a 
 public) access to Wikipedia with an ASCII (english) keyboard in about 20 
 languages on
 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34590

 People supporting this idea, please for it.

Cool!

See also: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28085, a bug
I submitted ages ago based on feedback I've gotten talking to users
who only occasionally edited. The idea is that that remembering a
username can be a barrier to casual editing (a few tries to remember a
username that you don't use much and you might just give up) -- and
being able to log in with an email address might help make things
smoother.

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[Wikitech-l] book about wikitude

2011-09-21 Thread phoebe ayers
Incidental: a book about developing for Wikitude was recently
published: Professional Augmented Reality Browsers for Smartphones:
Programming for junaio, Layar and Wikitude
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1119992818/

I know nothing about it other than the title :)
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Re: [Wikitech-l] sep11.wikipedia.org

2011-09-11 Thread phoebe ayers
2011/9/11 Kirill Krasnov krasnovfo...@gmail.com:
 Hi, John.

 You wrote Sunday, September 11, 2011, 8:38:07 PM:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks

 2011/9/11 Краснов Кирилл krasnovfo...@gmail.com

 Sorry, what is sep11.wikipedia.org? Is it project Wikipedia Org?
 Why not domain jan01.wikipedia.org, mar08.wikipedia.org, etc?

 Why not http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis ?

 Sorry for my badly english. I translate with google next text:

 I honor the memory of all victims of this tragic day. I express my
 condolences to all relatives and friends who lost loved ones. But
 Wikipedia is an international project, which should equally take into
 account all the rights and freedoms of people around the world.
 What a tragedy of September 11 terrorist attack other notable terrorist
 attacks? Why for that date, there is a subdomain Wikipedia, and for
 other important dates, no? Why not make a date on every terrorist
 attack? For example, in Norway 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks ?



 --
 Best regards,
 Kirill
 http://www.kraeg.ru/


Kirill,

The Sept. 11 wiki is closed now. But it was set up very early in
Wikipedia's history, before we had really figured out how huge and
international Wikipedia would be (and before we started using the
Wikimedia name). First, as Finne says, there were lots of entries
created on the English Wikipedia that weren't strictly encyclopedic,
so a separate subdomain was created for them. Then, a few years later
after discussion about whether such a project was really appropriate
for Wikimedia, the wiki was closed, and later the content was moved
over to the Internet Archive and elsewhere. We kept the link as a
redirect simply for historical preservation purposes :) You can read
more on meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sep11wiki

As a historical note, I believe the 9/11 attacks were one of the first
times that the Wikipedia community really responded by writing
articles in real-time, a phenomena that has become one of our
extraordinary hallmarks as a project in the last ten years.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-03 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, it seems that every year we choose locations that for one reason or
 the other are likely not to be accessible to some groups or nationality (I
 hear complaints every year about these issues)(no judgements, just a fact).
 So I agree that this uploading issue should be faced once for all,
 setting up a workflow with WMF technicians that would allow videos and
 slides to be online in reasonable time.

 Aubrey


Yes!  if we can set up a system for media upload *before* the next
conference to try and address this issue, which does come up every
year, that would be fantastic.

Copying wikitech :) The problem: how and where should we annually
upload video and slides from ~100 conference presentations, keeping
them freely  easily accessible and the metadata (such as links to
papers, submission pages, wikipages of notes, etc) intact?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia projects + Open Library books?

2011-06-05 Thread phoebe ayers
Funny you should ask :) I follow a list called CODE4LIB (library
hackers, includes many open library people) and this very subject just
came up: (see adding VIAF links to Wikipedia):
https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind1106L=CODE4LIB
https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind1105L=CODE4LIB

There is also an open library bot on en:wp:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/OpenlibraryBot

That's all I know about specifically, but there is a big overlap
between our communities, and collaboration could definitely be
fruitful.
-- phoebe

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:
 So the Open Library, a project by the Internet Archive that has a structured
 wiki page for every book and which also lends books online, has announced
 they just got new Read API.[1, 2] The announcement describes its as:

 The idea is, you can hit the Read API with an identifier or a series of
 identifiers or an array of identifiers, and it will tell whether there is a
 readable or borrowable version available through Open Library. As you render
 a page in your own bookish website, you can paint links into Open Library
 based on the response.

 I wonder if there is some use case for this in Wikipedia or other projects?
 Perhaps linking references or book articles to Open Library copies? Letting
 Wikimedians know when they can borrow reference works for free online? I
 figure that identifiers like ISBNs are all over the place in Wikimedia
 content.

 Not sure, but it's interesting to think about. Their open source online book
 reader is also pretty awesome and isn't Flash based.

 Steven

 1. http://blog.openlibrary.org/2011/06/03/announcing-a-new-read-api/
 2. http://openlibrary.org/dev/docs/api/read
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia engineering May 2011 report

2011-06-03 Thread phoebe ayers
I'm always impressed by this report, and by the volume of activity
going on -- nice work, all. You're setting a really nice standard with
the engineering reports for readable,
detailed-but-layperson-accessible, interesting monthly documentation
:)

cheers,
phoebe


On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Guillaume Paumier
gpaum...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Hi,

 The report of Wikimedia engineering activities for May 2011 is out:
 http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/06/03/wikimedia-engineering-may-2011-report/
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2011/May

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[Wikitech-l] supporting small languages (was WMF 2015 strategic plan and multilingualism)

2011-03-08 Thread phoebe ayers
(changing the thread title)

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have proposed to spend 100,000,- Euro and this will make major
 improvements for the scripts, the fonts and the standards for the languages
 we have a Wikipedia for. This is given the current budget chicken feed.
 Thanks,
      GerardM

This is not a comment on the amount of money but on the idea of
improvements to scripts/fonts/standards etc.

I understand there's been discussion about creating a list of problems
for representing various languages on the internet. For example, some
languages have problems being written online because they are not well
supported in Unicode, or some don't have free fonts, etc. etc.

These are problems for *any* website that wants to support that
particular language. There are also bugs related to how *we* support
particular languages in MediaWiki -- as far as I know these have
mainly been collected in Bugzilla.

So my questions are: 1) have there ever been any comprehensive lists
made of these language-related bugs (either within MediaWiki or in
general); and, 2) what needs to be done (technically) to support
small(er) languages?

(I know we,  in particular GerardM, have been discussing this for a
long time. But I'm curious what the current state of affairs is, and
if issues for small languages are collected together in one place).

best,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] How users without programming skills can help

2011-02-14 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:28 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
 Mark A. Hershberger wrote:
 Perhaps we could recruit some people from the he.wikipedia.org community
 to
 take problems reported (via the localized interface?) and reproduce
 them or
 act as a translator between developers and bug reporters?

 There is already some infrastructure for this kind of idea:
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors

 I didn't know about this mailing list until a few days ago, but it's a start
 in building the bridge between MediaWiki development and (power-)users.

 MZMcBride

Fascinating! I didn't know this existed either. To answer Mark's
question, I'm interested in facilitating more user participation in
bug-collecting. Using Bugzilla confuses the heck out of me, but mostly
because I don't do it very often!

There are many good ideas in this list. I have one small idea re:
bugzilla -- is it possible to make browsing bugs more transparent
(like a link on the sidebar)? I only just discovered that it's
possible to look at bugs by category, component or keyword rather than
search, and for the hapless newbie who is nonetheless sometimes
interested in looking (at) bugs to see what's going on (like me) it
would help. First rule of taxonomies: everyone describes stuff
differently, so browse is useful :)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs

2011-02-12 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Have a bugathon where we label a lot of bugs as appropriate bugathon bugs
 that need either:
 a) test patch / update patch to recent svn version
 a) confirmation / replication of new / unconfirmed bugs

 We can provide a simple ready to go Wiki installation for people to use for
 bug triaging and that way we can re-energize developers and clean up some of
 the backlog of bugs.

 Is this something that we should be doing?


 This is something we do at hack-a-tons. I don't remember the number of
 bugs smashed at the last one, but it was a decent number.

 I believe the next hack-a-ton is in Berlin, soon. I'm not sure if they
 have this planned. It's apparently GLAM focused (which excludes devs
 like me), so I'd imagine not, unless the bugs targeted are GLAM
 related.

 - Ryan Lane

I'm curious: is there a way that non-technical people can help with
sprints like this? Documentation-building, maybe? Something else? I'm
interested in development sprints, bugathons etc that involve both
technical  non-technical people; I've been involved in a few and it's
pretty fun. But I don't know how many useful ways non-programmers 
non-developers can help.

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[Wikitech-l] IRC general meetings

2011-02-02 Thread phoebe ayers
Reminder that an open community meeting is proposed for this Saturday,
Feb. 5. on IRC: freednode#wikimedia

Please add your agenda items!
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_meetings

based on feedback I'd like to move the time down to 1800-1900 UTC
(that's 10 am PST).

Let me know if you can help moderate.
Looking forward to it,
Phoebe



On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:54 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 Back in September we had an open community IRC meeting, where we
 introduced the new Trustees and talked about various issues. It was
 pretty successful and we discussed afterwards making such community
 meetings a regular event.

 I'd like to revive this idea :) I've made a proposal for having
 community meetings on the first Saturday of the month:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_meetings

 Which would make the first upcoming meeting on February 5.

 I proposed 17:00UTC as a time, but please discuss good days/times on
 the talk page if you are interested in attending; we'll need to rotate
 times.

 I envision this as not really a QA session like the staff office
 hours, but rather as a chance for community members to get together
 and talk about important issues in a structured way. To that end,
 please add your proposed agenda items to the wiki. It would also be
 great to have some volunteers to take notes/moderate.

 Of course this is just an experiment -- but there seemed to be a lot
 of interest in having such meetings, so I'd like to try it out. Let me
 know what you think and if you'd be interested.

 best,
 Phoebe

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Re: [Wikitech-l] OT: Sunday in San Francisco

2011-01-27 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you seen http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Visiting_San_Francisco ?


 I think that might have been copied from elsewhere for a specific
 event. The part
 near the end about having breakfast and lunch provided? Awesome, but I don't
 think they're giving everyone who comes to SF free food ;-)

 -Chad

If only!

Would it be worth giving this page a quick hack to make it a general
visitors guide / pointer to good visitors guides? Considering how many
visitors the WMF office gets, it would probably be a good idea :)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-25 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
 Aryeh Gregor wrote:
 When I load their homepage, the formulas don't appear for about two
 seconds of 100% CPU usage, on Firefox 4b9.  And that's for two small
 formulas.  I'm not impressed.  IMO, the correct way forward is to work
 on native MathML support -- Gecko and WebKit both support it these
 days, and Opera somewhat does too.  I'm sure the support is a bit
 spotty, but if Wikipedia used it (even as an off-by-default option)
 that would surely drive a lot of progress.  These days (with the
 deployment of HTML5 parsers) it can be embedded directly into HTML,
 it's not limited to XML.

 Looking at http://www.mathjax.org/demos/tex-samples/ it may indeed take
 a couple of seconds to convert from TeX to the graphical view, but
 without 100% CPU usage or looking blocked. I'm not using 49b but
 3.6.12, though. I see a similar result in chromium.
 A disadvantage is that the showing the formula needs to reposition the
 content, instead of reserving the space in advance.

Delurking to say that while I don't know if it's useful for us at all,
Mathjax is getting lots of buzz in other settings (like publishing and
the science library world); and also I just today came across this
http://detexify.kirelabs.org/classify.html

It's not directly applicable but it is a fun usability idea for
turning symbols into LaTeX (and by extension I can imagine symbols to
markup, letters to unicode, etc.)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Foundation-l] Geonotice improvements that could make Wikinews great (among other benefits)

2009-07-31 Thread phoebe ayers
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Sage Rossragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
 One of the great frustrations of Wikinews for me is that it doesn't
 have a system for identifying and pointing users toward opportunities
 to get out into the offline world and do original reporting.  A
 fine-grained cross-project opt-in geonotice system could be a
 solution.

 Here's how I imagine it working: there is a new opt-in geonotice (in
 addition to the current one that reaches everyone in the specified
 geography).  For the opt-in geonotice (which would hopefully be able
 to reach across projects, since many causal Wikinewsies visit that
 site only rarely) any trusted user could add new items to let nearby
 people know about reporting or photography opportunities.  For these
 opt-in notices, we would not need to lock down the ability to add
 items like we do for the current geonotice system (it's a fully
 protected page), since people who opt-in will expect a bit a noise.

I think this would be awesome to try out! Geonotices have proved to be
wonderful for helping out with local meetups; I can even imagine
having two filters, opt-into notifications for local events and
opt-into notifications for wikinews stuff. Both pages to set the
notifications could be unprotected, and we could just see how it went.

That is all :)
phoebe

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Re: [Wikitech-l] research-oriented toolserver?

2009-03-10 Thread phoebe ayers
Thanks for the responses, all.

Daniel and Bilal: the notes about the possible servers at Syracuse and
Concordia are very interesting; it sounds like the researchers
interested in such things should team up.

Daniel: I am not sure what type of data is needed -- this is not my
project (I'm only the messenger!) but I'll pass along your message and
send you private details (and encourage the researcher to reply
himself).

River: Well, you say that part of the issue with the toolserver is
money and time... and this person that I've been talking to is
offering to throw money and time at the problem. So, what can they
constructively do?

All: Like I said, I am unclear on the technical issues involved, but
as for why a separate research toolserver might be useful... :
I see a difference in the type of information a researcher might want
to pull (public data, large sets of related page information,
full-text mining, ??) and the types of tools that the current
toolserver mainly supports (editcount tools, catscan, etc). I also see
a difference in how the two groups might be authenticated -- there's a
difference between being a trusted Wikipedian or trusted Wikimedia
developer and being a trusted technically-competent researcher (for
instance, I recognized the affiliation of the person who was trying to
apply, because I've read their research papers; but if you were going
on wikimedia status alone, they don't have any).

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[Wikitech-l] research-oriented toolserver?

2009-03-09 Thread phoebe ayers
Hi all,
I'm not sure exactly where to raise this, so am asking here.

A researcher I have been in touch with has proposed starting a 2nd,
research-oriented Wikimedia toolserver. He thinks his lab can pay for
the hardware and would be willing to maintain it, if they could get
help setting it up. He got this idea after a member of his research
group tried (unsuccessfully so far -- no response) to get an account
on the current toolserver; their Wikipedia-related research has been
put on hold for a few months because of the delay. (It seems like
there is a big backlog of account requests right now and only one
person working on them?)  This research group has done some
interesting Wikipedia research to date and I expect they could do more
with access to the right data.

Personally, I think a dedicated toolserver is a great idea for the
research community, but I know very little about the technical issues
involved and/or whether this has been proposed before. Please comment,
and I can pass on replies and put the researcher in touch with the
tech team if it seems like a good idea.

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[Wikitech-l] WikiSym 2009 in Orlando: Call for Papers - deadline March 27

2009-03-08 Thread phoebe ayers
Hello all,

A reminder that WikiSym 2009 will be in Orlando, Florida, from October
25-27. The deadline for submitting papers, workshops and panel
proposals is March 27; April 24th is the deadline for posters,
demonstrations and WikiFest (practical experience) proposals.
Topics of interest include:
*  social software for collaboration and work group processes
* wiki user experiences, usability, and discourse analysis
* reputation systems, quality assurance processes
* scalability---social and technical
* wiki technologies and implementations
* translation and multilingual wiki content
* educational applications
* wiki for non-textual media (images, video, audio)
* content dynamics and wiki evolution
* wiki journalism
* wiki archiving and versioning
* wiki administration: dealing with abuse and resolving conflict
* wiki and the semantic web, knowledge management, tacit knowledge
* wiki for small audiences (departmental and family wikis)
* legal issues (copyright, licensing)
* visualization of wiki structure
* wiki fiction

For more information, see the Call for Papers:
http://www.wikisym.org/ws2009/tiki-index.php?page=Call+for+Papers

WikiSym is an annual conference devoted to research into all aspects
of wikis, including wiki communities, wiki software and technology,
and using wikis in education and organizations. Research papers about
the Wikimedia projects are welcome! Papers are peer reviewed and
archived in the ACM digital library (see past proceedings:
http://portal.acm.org/toc.cfm?id=SERIES11299coll=ACMdl=ACMtype=seriesidx=SERIES11299part=seriesWantType=Proceedingstitle=ISW

The conference is colocated with OOPSLA 2009. For more, see:
http://www.wikisym.org/ws2009/

-- Phoebe Ayers (2009 Wikimedia Liason)

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