Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Lua rollout to en.wikipedia.org and a few others
Thanks a lot! This work correctly in the deployed version. I made a tiny test here: writing a module: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Module:StringLength using a module: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Amire80/Scribunto -- Amir 2013/2/16 Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com: On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Is there any way to handle Unicode strings in the version that is going to be deployed? For example, things like getting the length of the string François as 8 rather than 9? If not, is there any plan to have this ability any time soon? Yes, a library has been written for Scribunto called ustring to handle unicode. We've actually got docs for this (and a couple of other libraries) available on mw.org[0]. -Chad [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Lua rollout to en.wikipedia.org and a few others
2013/2/16 Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua for more information. That's a surprise for me! I thought Scribunto would be deployed to much more wikis in the first run. How did huwiki get in this batch? I am really happy with this. -- Bináris ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Lua rollout to en.wikipedia.org and a few others
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Is there any way to handle Unicode strings in the version that is going to be deployed? For example, things like getting the length of the string François as 8 rather than 9? If not, is there any plan to have this ability any time soon? Yes, a library has been written for Scribunto called ustring to handle unicode. We've actually got docs for this (and a couple of other libraries) available on mw.org[0]. -Chad [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Lua rollout to en.wikipedia.org and a few others
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi everyone, We're planning to deploy Lua to a long list of wikis on Monday, February 18, 23:00-01:00 UTC (stretching into Tuesday UTC), including English Wikipedia. Details here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Lua Jan Kučera (User:Kozuch) has placed notifications on many of the wikis. Those notifications and general communications listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kozuch/Lua I didn't see it in the docs above, so thought I'd ask... Is this going to include rollout of the CodeEditor extension, or will that be done separately? This is a really exciting deployment for the projects. We're really looking forward to seeing the great things that people do with this, and looking forward to making editing and previewing more responsive for template-heavy pages. Rob This is exciting! Do we have plans for further measurement when it comes to Lua's impact on page load times/publishing any results so far? In addition to the general benefit of not having to program using wikitext/parser functions, I seem to remember the performance improvements being the big selling point of Scribunto. Best of luck on the launch, -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Lua rollout to en.wikipedia.org and a few others
Hi Steven, Thanks for the encouragement! Comments inline: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: I didn't see it in the docs above, so thought I'd ask... Is this going to include rollout of the CodeEditor extension, or will that be done separately? That's a good question. My initial instinct is to say just Scribunto/Lua, but follow that closely with a CodeEditor deployment very soon. Tim may have something else in mind for this, though, so he may correct me.. Is there any reason you're aware of not to deploy CodeEditor as well? Any reason why we should avoid deploying Scribunto without CodeEditor? This is exciting! Do we have plans for further measurement when it comes to Lua's impact on page load times/publishing any results so far? In addition to the general benefit of not having to program using wikitext/parser functions, I seem to remember the performance improvements being the big selling point of Scribunto. Tim did some initial benchmarks which showed a pretty marked improvement with the Cite template: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting/Benchmarking The cluster impact is going to be pretty modest (possibly unmeasurable at this point) but will have a positive impact once templates are converted to Lua. Rob ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Lua rollout to en.wikipedia.org and a few others
Hello, What is Lua? Thanks, Sirbu Nicolae-Cezar On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Steven, Thanks for the encouragement! Comments inline: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: I didn't see it in the docs above, so thought I'd ask... Is this going to include rollout of the CodeEditor extension, or will that be done separately? That's a good question. My initial instinct is to say just Scribunto/Lua, but follow that closely with a CodeEditor deployment very soon. Tim may have something else in mind for this, though, so he may correct me.. Is there any reason you're aware of not to deploy CodeEditor as well? Any reason why we should avoid deploying Scribunto without CodeEditor? This is exciting! Do we have plans for further measurement when it comes to Lua's impact on page load times/publishing any results so far? In addition to the general benefit of not having to program using wikitext/parser functions, I seem to remember the performance improvements being the big selling point of Scribunto. Tim did some initial benchmarks which showed a pretty marked improvement with the Cite template: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting/Benchmarking The cluster impact is going to be pretty modest (possibly unmeasurable at this point) but will have a positive impact once templates are converted to Lua. Rob ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Lua rollout to en.wikipedia.org and a few others
On 02/15/2013 06:03 PM, Sîrbu Nicolae-Cezar wrote: Hello, What is Lua? Thanks, Sirbu Nicolae-Cezar It is a programming language used for embedded scripting. Scribunto is a MediaWiki extension that allows you to write templates in Lua (other languages possibly coming later). Done right, this can be clearer, more powerful, and more efficient than the current ParserFunction templates. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua for more information. Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Lua rollout to en.wikipedia.org and a few others
Is there any way to handle Unicode strings in the version that is going to be deployed? For example, things like getting the length of the string François as 8 rather than 9? If not, is there any plan to have this ability any time soon? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2013/2/16 Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org: Hi everyone, We're planning to deploy Lua to a long list of wikis on Monday, February 18, 23:00-01:00 UTC (stretching into Tuesday UTC), including English Wikipedia. Details here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Lua Jan Kučera (User:Kozuch) has placed notifications on many of the wikis. Those notifications and general communications listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kozuch/Lua This is a really exciting deployment for the projects. We're really looking forward to seeing the great things that people do with this, and looking forward to making editing and previewing more responsive for template-heavy pages. Rob ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list wikitech-ambassad...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Lua rollout to en.wikipedia.org and a few others
+1 with Amir. The unicode support is very important. About list of firsts wikis, why fr.wikisource isn't in the list? We have requested some months ago to be one of the first wikis to test the extension and the answer seems positive. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39744 Thomas Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il a écrit : Is there any way to handle Unicode strings in the version that is going to be deployed? For example, things like getting the length of the string François as 8 rather than 9? If not, is there any plan to have this ability any time soon? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2013/2/16 Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org: Hi everyone, We're planning to deploy Lua to a long list of wikis on Monday, February 18, 23:00-01:00 UTC (stretching into Tuesday UTC), including English Wikipedia. Details here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Lua Jan Kučera (User:Kozuch) has placed notifications on many of the wikis. Those notifications and general communications listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kozuch/Lua This is a really exciting deployment for the projects. We're really looking forward to seeing the great things that people do with this, and looking forward to making editing and previewing more responsive for template-heavy pages. Rob ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list wikitech-ambassad...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
