Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Etherpad upgrade and a new skin

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Upstream projects making UI changes without consulting ME? I’m a human
being, god-dammit! My life has value! I'm mad as hell, and I'm not
going to take this anymore!

In all seriousness, thanks to the upstream developers and WMF ops
folks for their continued hard work.

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:43 PM Bryan Davis  wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 12:36 AM Pine W  wrote:
> >
> > Forwarding an announcement. Feedback can go to Alexandros, who may or
> > may not be subscribed to a mailing list where you see this email, so
> > if you have something to say on list you may also want to include
> > Alexandros' email address in the to: field. (By the way, on one
> > previous occasion I saw a small number of highly hostile messages
> > being directed at WMF staff regarding a UI change that I thought was
> > reasonable. If you are a community member and something about this UI
> > change upsets you, please vent to me first and then after you have
> > finished venting you can send a calmer version of your message to
> > Alexandros.)
>
> I appreciate the offer made here by Pine to give you a way to
> initially calm down, but if you do feel the need to vent about a UI
> change done by an unaffiliated upstream project, please DO NOT vent
> even calmly at Alexandros or anyone else on the Wikimedia Foundation's
> SRE team or employed by the Wikimedia Foundation generally. Please
> open your nearest window and share your complaints with the clouds in
> the sky. They will be happy for the attention.
>
>
> Bryan
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Etherpad upgrade and a new skin

[Bryan Davis]

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 12:36 AM Pine W  wrote:
>
> Forwarding an announcement. Feedback can go to Alexandros, who may or
> may not be subscribed to a mailing list where you see this email, so
> if you have something to say on list you may also want to include
> Alexandros' email address in the to: field. (By the way, on one
> previous occasion I saw a small number of highly hostile messages
> being directed at WMF staff regarding a UI change that I thought was
> reasonable. If you are a community member and something about this UI
> change upsets you, please vent to me first and then after you have
> finished venting you can send a calmer version of your message to
> Alexandros.)

I appreciate the offer made here by Pine to give you a way to
initially calm down, but if you do feel the need to vent about a UI
change done by an unaffiliated upstream project, please DO NOT vent
even calmly at Alexandros or anyone else on the Wikimedia Foundation's
SRE team or employed by the Wikimedia Foundation generally. Please
open your nearest window and share your complaints with the clouds in
the sky. They will be happy for the attention.


Bryan
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Principal Software Engineer   Boise, ID USA
[[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]]  irc: bd808

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[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Etherpad upgrade and a new skin

[Pine W]

Forwarding an announcement. Feedback can go to Alexandros, who may or
may not be subscribed to a mailing list where you see this email, so
if you have something to say on list you may also want to include
Alexandros' email address in the to: field. (By the way, on one
previous occasion I saw a small number of highly hostile messages
being directed at WMF staff regarding a UI change that I thought was
reasonable. If you are a community member and something about this UI
change upsets you, please vent to me first and then after you have
finished venting you can send a calmer version of your message to
Alexandros.)

Thanks,

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )


-- Forwarded message -
From: Alexandros Kosiaris 
Date: Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:29 AM
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Etherpad upgrade and a new skin
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
Cc: Foundation Optional 


Hello everyone,

I normally don't send out emails like this when we upgrade etherpad,
but 1.8.4 (which we just upgraded to), has brought in a UI change (one
that was introduced in 1.8.3) which, in my opinion, warrants a heads
up so that people aren't caught off guard. Etherpad-lite now has had a
new skin and that's what you will experience while using it. There's
also a number of other changes, you can have a quick look at
https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/blob/develop/CHANGELOG.md if
you are interested.

Regards,

--
Alexandros Kosiaris
Principal Site Reliability Engineer
Wikimedia Foundation

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