[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias

2013-04-18 Thread James Forrester
For info, given interest in the VisualEditor. :-)


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From: James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org
Date: 18 April 2013 17:32
Subject: Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias
To: Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects
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All,


TL;DR: VisualEditor will be deployed on 14 new Wikipedias next week as an
opt-in alpha. Your assitance is requested to inform your wikis about this
and help get the software translated.


Next week (on 25 April) we are going to deploy the alpha opt-in version of
the VisualEditor to some non-English Wikipedias in the same way that it
has been on the English Wikipedia since December 2012.

This will let users get familiar with the VisualEditor, give us feedback
on what works and what is broken, and help us prioritise further work
ahead of the planned deployment as a 'default' editor for all users which
we intend to do in a few months' time.

Due to a number of issues we have been unable to release VisualEditor to
non-English wikis until now, and we would very much like to get some great
feedback from as many wikis as possible - especially for extended Unicode
and RTL languages, but also other languages. Does the VisualEditor work in
your language? Does it gel with your wiki's workflow?

The initial languages we want to target are the top 10 Wikipedias by way
of scale - de, nl, fr, it, ru, es, sv, pl, ja - plus selected others to
help us discover issues we anticipate: ar, he, hi, ko, zh. These will let
us test most of the locales we are concerned about. If this goes well, we
hope to deploy the opt-in alpha to all Wikipedias.

Please tell your wiki colleagues that this is coming, especially if your
wiki is in this list! Additionally, you can see how fully-translated the
software is into your language in the stats at TranslateWiki.Net[0] -
please encourage wiki colleagues to help translate the messages ahead of
the deployment!


As a note, we have just updated the VisualEditor integration so that the
Edit tab goes to VisualEditor, and there is an Edit source tab to go
to the wikitext editor.

This change (which affects the English Wikipedia opt-in deployment and
MediaWiki.org as well as the new deployments mentioned above) moves the
way that VisualEditor integrates with the wiki's workflow to be closer to
how it will appear when it is the 'default' editor. It is still easy to
use the wikitext editor if that is what you want to do - the Edit source
tab (at least for now) will be above the fold and not in the drop-down
menu on Vector.


Happy to answer any questions you might have!

Yours,
--
James D. Forrester
Product Manager, VisualEditor
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester


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Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias

2013-04-18 Thread Raylton P. Sousa
You can add another language to the list?
or some of wikipedia sisters?


2013/4/18 James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org

 For info, given interest in the VisualEditor. :-)


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org
 Date: 18 April 2013 17:32
 Subject: Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias
 To: Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects
 wikitech-ambassad...@lists.wikimedia.org


 All,


 TL;DR: VisualEditor will be deployed on 14 new Wikipedias next week as an
 opt-in alpha. Your assitance is requested to inform your wikis about this
 and help get the software translated.


 Next week (on 25 April) we are going to deploy the alpha opt-in version of
 the VisualEditor to some non-English Wikipedias in the same way that it
 has been on the English Wikipedia since December 2012.

 This will let users get familiar with the VisualEditor, give us feedback
 on what works and what is broken, and help us prioritise further work
 ahead of the planned deployment as a 'default' editor for all users which
 we intend to do in a few months' time.

 Due to a number of issues we have been unable to release VisualEditor to
 non-English wikis until now, and we would very much like to get some great
 feedback from as many wikis as possible - especially for extended Unicode
 and RTL languages, but also other languages. Does the VisualEditor work in
 your language? Does it gel with your wiki's workflow?

 The initial languages we want to target are the top 10 Wikipedias by way
 of scale - de, nl, fr, it, ru, es, sv, pl, ja - plus selected others to
 help us discover issues we anticipate: ar, he, hi, ko, zh. These will let
 us test most of the locales we are concerned about. If this goes well, we
 hope to deploy the opt-in alpha to all Wikipedias.

 Please tell your wiki colleagues that this is coming, especially if your
 wiki is in this list! Additionally, you can see how fully-translated the
 software is into your language in the stats at TranslateWiki.Net[0] -
 please encourage wiki colleagues to help translate the messages ahead of
 the deployment!


 As a note, we have just updated the VisualEditor integration so that the
 Edit tab goes to VisualEditor, and there is an Edit source tab to go
 to the wikitext editor.

 This change (which affects the English Wikipedia opt-in deployment and
 MediaWiki.org as well as the new deployments mentioned above) moves the
 way that VisualEditor integrates with the wiki's workflow to be closer to
 how it will appear when it is the 'default' editor. It is still easy to
 use the wikitext editor if that is what you want to do - the Edit source
 tab (at least for now) will be above the fold and not in the drop-down
 menu on Vector.


 Happy to answer any questions you might have!

 Yours,
 --
 James D. Forrester
 Product Manager, VisualEditor
 Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

 jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester


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 jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias

2013-04-18 Thread Raylton P. Sousa
Btw, this is great!


2013/4/18 Raylton P. Sousa raylton.so...@gmail.com

 You can add another language to the list?
 or some of wikipedia sisters?


 2013/4/18 James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org

 For info, given interest in the VisualEditor. :-)


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org
 Date: 18 April 2013 17:32
 Subject: Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias
 To: Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects
 wikitech-ambassad...@lists.wikimedia.org


 All,


 TL;DR: VisualEditor will be deployed on 14 new Wikipedias next week as an
 opt-in alpha. Your assitance is requested to inform your wikis about this
 and help get the software translated.


 Next week (on 25 April) we are going to deploy the alpha opt-in version of
 the VisualEditor to some non-English Wikipedias in the same way that it
 has been on the English Wikipedia since December 2012.

 This will let users get familiar with the VisualEditor, give us feedback
 on what works and what is broken, and help us prioritise further work
 ahead of the planned deployment as a 'default' editor for all users which
 we intend to do in a few months' time.

 Due to a number of issues we have been unable to release VisualEditor to
 non-English wikis until now, and we would very much like to get some great
 feedback from as many wikis as possible - especially for extended Unicode
 and RTL languages, but also other languages. Does the VisualEditor work in
 your language? Does it gel with your wiki's workflow?

 The initial languages we want to target are the top 10 Wikipedias by way
 of scale - de, nl, fr, it, ru, es, sv, pl, ja - plus selected others to
 help us discover issues we anticipate: ar, he, hi, ko, zh. These will let
 us test most of the locales we are concerned about. If this goes well, we
 hope to deploy the opt-in alpha to all Wikipedias.

 Please tell your wiki colleagues that this is coming, especially if your
 wiki is in this list! Additionally, you can see how fully-translated the
 software is into your language in the stats at TranslateWiki.Net[0] -
 please encourage wiki colleagues to help translate the messages ahead of
 the deployment!


 As a note, we have just updated the VisualEditor integration so that the
 Edit tab goes to VisualEditor, and there is an Edit source tab to go
 to the wikitext editor.

 This change (which affects the English Wikipedia opt-in deployment and
 MediaWiki.org as well as the new deployments mentioned above) moves the
 way that VisualEditor integrates with the wiki's workflow to be closer to
 how it will appear when it is the 'default' editor. It is still easy to
 use the wikitext editor if that is what you want to do - the Edit source
 tab (at least for now) will be above the fold and not in the drop-down
 menu on Vector.


 Happy to answer any questions you might have!

 Yours,
 --
 James D. Forrester
 Product Manager, VisualEditor
 Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

 jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester


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 Product Manager, VisualEditor
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 jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias

2013-04-18 Thread James Forrester
On 18 April 2013 17:44, Raylton P. Sousa raylton.so...@gmail.com wrote:
 You can add another language to the list?

We'll hopefully be able to deploy to every Wikipedia in all our
languages quite soon, but we should test it first on a selection so
that if we find problems we don't have many dozens of users finding
the same problem. :-)

BTW, I notice that my message lost the important link for
TranslateWiki.Net:
https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3AMessageGroupStatsx=Dgroup=ext-visualeditor#sortable:3=desc
- very grateful for any who can help translate the VisualEditor
interface!

 or some of wikipedia sisters?

We will hopefully be able to deploy to the sister projects in a little
longer. Our focus to now has been on the core MediaWiki functionality
and extensions that Wikipedias use, rather than on those for the
sister projects, which means it may not be of as much use.

 Btw, this is great!

Thank you. :-)

J.
--
James D. Forrester
Product Manager, VisualEditor
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias

2013-04-18 Thread Raylton P. Sousa
Ok, Thanks for the response!


2013/4/18 James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org

 On 18 April 2013 17:44, Raylton P. Sousa raylton.so...@gmail.com wrote:
  You can add another language to the list?

 We'll hopefully be able to deploy to every Wikipedia in all our
 languages quite soon, but we should test it first on a selection so
 that if we find problems we don't have many dozens of users finding
 the same problem. :-)

 BTW, I notice that my message lost the important link for
 TranslateWiki.Net:

 https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3AMessageGroupStatsx=Dgroup=ext-visualeditor#sortable:3=desc
 - very grateful for any who can help translate the VisualEditor
 interface!

  or some of wikipedia sisters?

 We will hopefully be able to deploy to the sister projects in a little
 longer. Our focus to now has been on the core MediaWiki functionality
 and extensions that Wikipedias use, rather than on those for the
 sister projects, which means it may not be of as much use.

  Btw, this is great!

 Thank you. :-)

 J.
 --
 James D. Forrester
 Product Manager, VisualEditor
 Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

 jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester

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