Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk livestream chat transcript (was Re: [Wikimedia Technical Talks] Data and Decision Science at Wikimedia with Kate Zimmerman, 26 February 2020 @ 6PM UTC)
Note: the list of who has access (both wmf and otherwise) is at https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet/blob/3f7e6a775321e993c001a85ede736d2db087d3e0/modules/admin/data/data.yaml#L270 (there are also some other groups that are probably relevant). This of course wouldnt include people who got specific information as result of a collaboration but didnt have actual access to the cluster. You can look at the file's history to see historically who had access. -- Bawolff On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, James Salsman wrote: > I note now that the full chat transcript has been restored; thank you. > > I am still interested in the answer to the question. > > Sincerely, > Jim > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10:46 AM James Salsman wrote: > > > > Just now I asked the following question on the Technical Talk > > livestream at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-CRsiwYM9w > > > > 10:19 AM: Page 20 of Robert West's 2016 Stanford thesis, "Human > > Navigation of Information Networks" says, "We have access to > > Wikimedia’s full server logs, containing all HTTP requests to > > Wikimedia projects." > > 10:19 AM: The text is at > > http://infolab.stanford.edu/~west1/pubs/West_Dissertation-2016.pdf > > 10:19 AM: Page 19 indicates that this information includes the "IP > > address, proxy information, and user agent." > > 10:20 AM: This is confirmed by West at > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ0NPhT-fsE=25m40s > > 10:20 AM: Does the Foundation still share that identifying information > > with research affiliates? If so, how many are them world-wide; if not, > > when did sharing this information stop? > > 10:25 AM: MediaWiki @James Salsman I see your question, but donfly. > > Can we reach out to you after the talk? > > 10:25 AM: MediaWiki: sorry hit enter too soon! > > 10:26 AM: MediaWiki: I don't have the full-context of the thesis to > > ask kate to answer the question on the fly. Can we reach out to you > > after? > > 10:26 AM: James Salsman: With whom am I corresponding? > > 10:27 AM: James Salsman: Sarah? > > 10:28 AM: MediaWiki: Yes! That's me! > > 10:28 AM: James Salsman: Would it be easier to ask, "how many research > > affiliates does the Foundation share server logs with IP addresses?" > > 10:29 AM: MediaWiki: Yes, I can ask that. > > 10:30 AM: James Salsman: Thank you. > > > > At 10:34, the messages with the the URLs I posted were removed from > > the chat log. > > > > At 10:36, the chat stream was removed from the video, which was > > replaced with the text, "Chat is disabled for this live stream," and > > now is completely missing. > > > > I am still interested in getting an answer to this question, but > > disturbed by the removal of links to sources. Could I please have an > > explanation? > > > > Sincerely, > > Jim > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk livestream chat transcript (was Re: [Wikimedia Technical Talks] Data and Decision Science at Wikimedia with Kate Zimmerman, 26 February 2020 @ 6PM UTC)
I note now that the full chat transcript has been restored; thank you. I am still interested in the answer to the question. Sincerely, Jim On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10:46 AM James Salsman wrote: > > Just now I asked the following question on the Technical Talk > livestream at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-CRsiwYM9w > > 10:19 AM: Page 20 of Robert West's 2016 Stanford thesis, "Human > Navigation of Information Networks" says, "We have access to > Wikimedia’s full server logs, containing all HTTP requests to > Wikimedia projects." > 10:19 AM: The text is at > http://infolab.stanford.edu/~west1/pubs/West_Dissertation-2016.pdf > 10:19 AM: Page 19 indicates that this information includes the "IP > address, proxy information, and user agent." > 10:20 AM: This is confirmed by West at > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ0NPhT-fsE=25m40s > 10:20 AM: Does the Foundation still share that identifying information > with research affiliates? If so, how many are them world-wide; if not, > when did sharing this information stop? > 10:25 AM: MediaWiki @James Salsman I see your question, but donfly. > Can we reach out to you after the talk? > 10:25 AM: MediaWiki: sorry hit enter too soon! > 10:26 AM: MediaWiki: I don't have the full-context of the thesis to > ask kate to answer the question on the fly. Can we reach out to you > after? > 10:26 AM: James Salsman: With whom am I corresponding? > 10:27 AM: James Salsman: Sarah? > 10:28 AM: MediaWiki: Yes! That's me! > 10:28 AM: James Salsman: Would it be easier to ask, "how many research > affiliates does the Foundation share server logs with IP addresses?" > 10:29 AM: MediaWiki: Yes, I can ask that. > 10:30 AM: James Salsman: Thank you. > > At 10:34, the messages with the the URLs I posted were removed from > the chat log. > > At 10:36, the chat stream was removed from the video, which was > replaced with the text, "Chat is disabled for this live stream," and > now is completely missing. > > I am still interested in getting an answer to this question, but > disturbed by the removal of links to sources. Could I please have an > explanation? > > Sincerely, > Jim ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Tech Talk livestream chat transcript (was Re: [Wikimedia Technical Talks] Data and Decision Science at Wikimedia with Kate Zimmerman, 26 February 2020 @ 6PM UTC)
Just now I asked the following question on the Technical Talk livestream at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-CRsiwYM9w 10:19 AM: Page 20 of Robert West's 2016 Stanford thesis, "Human Navigation of Information Networks" says, "We have access to Wikimedia’s full server logs, containing all HTTP requests to Wikimedia projects." 10:19 AM: The text is at http://infolab.stanford.edu/~west1/pubs/West_Dissertation-2016.pdf 10:19 AM: Page 19 indicates that this information includes the "IP address, proxy information, and user agent." 10:20 AM: This is confirmed by West at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ0NPhT-fsE=25m40s 10:20 AM: Does the Foundation still share that identifying information with research affiliates? If so, how many are them world-wide; if not, when did sharing this information stop? 10:25 AM: MediaWiki @James Salsman I see your question, but donfly. Can we reach out to you after the talk? 10:25 AM: MediaWiki: sorry hit enter too soon! 10:26 AM: MediaWiki: I don't have the full-context of the thesis to ask kate to answer the question on the fly. Can we reach out to you after? 10:26 AM: James Salsman: With whom am I corresponding? 10:27 AM: James Salsman: Sarah? 10:28 AM: MediaWiki: Yes! That's me! 10:28 AM: James Salsman: Would it be easier to ask, "how many research affiliates does the Foundation share server logs with IP addresses?" 10:29 AM: MediaWiki: Yes, I can ask that. 10:30 AM: James Salsman: Thank you. At 10:34, the messages with the the URLs I posted were removed from the chat log. At 10:36, the chat stream was removed from the video, which was replaced with the text, "Chat is disabled for this live stream," and now is completely missing. I am still interested in getting an answer to this question, but disturbed by the removal of links to sources. Could I please have an explanation? Sincerely, Jim ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
