Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-17 Thread Platonides
On 16/11/12 22:04, Brion Vibber wrote:
 Awesome! Another old hack swept away. :D
 
 Do we have a timetable for migrating all login sessions to HTTPS yet? I
 love that we've got a clean HTTPS option available, but it really skeezes
 me out that we still allow logins and passwords over plain HTTP.

We have self-signed certificates, too... (bug 27291).


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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-17 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 16/11/12 22:04, Brion Vibber a écrit :
snip
 Do we have a timetable for migrating all login sessions to HTTPS yet? I
 love that we've got a clean HTTPS option available, but it really skeezes
 me out that we still allow logins and passwords over plain HTTP.
 
 -- brion

I guess it is all about enabling $wgSecureLogin [1] which would force
the login form to use HTTPS for its POST.  I speedy hacked it two years
ago and Chris Steipp has fixed it a few weeks ago.

Maybe we could enable it on test first and see how it goes?


[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSecureLogin

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Antoine hashar Musso


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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-17 Thread Tyler Romeo
wgSecureLogin works. I patched the broken version of it not too long ago.
Now I'm just waiting on my patch in Gerrit to turn on wgSecureLogin on WMF
wikis.
On Nov 17, 2012 1:03 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:

 Le 16/11/12 22:04, Brion Vibber a écrit :
 snip
  Do we have a timetable for migrating all login sessions to HTTPS yet? I
  love that we've got a clean HTTPS option available, but it really skeezes
  me out that we still allow logins and passwords over plain HTTP.
 
  -- brion

 I guess it is all about enabling $wgSecureLogin [1] which would force
 the login form to use HTTPS for its POST.  I speedy hacked it two years
 ago and Chris Steipp has fixed it a few weeks ago.

 Maybe we could enable it on test first and see how it goes?


 [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSecureLogin

 --
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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-17 Thread Chris Steipp
There is one more bug I'd like to fix before turning wgSecurelogin on.. I'm
going to get it into wmf5, and then we can turn it on.
On Nov 17, 2012 10:03 AM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:

 Le 16/11/12 22:04, Brion Vibber a écrit :
 snip
  Do we have a timetable for migrating all login sessions to HTTPS yet? I
  love that we've got a clean HTTPS option available, but it really skeezes
  me out that we still allow logins and passwords over plain HTTP.
 
  -- brion

 I guess it is all about enabling $wgSecureLogin [1] which would force
 the login form to use HTTPS for its POST.  I speedy hacked it two years
 ago and Chris Steipp has fixed it a few weeks ago.

 Maybe we could enable it on test first and see how it goes?


 [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSecureLogin

 --
 Antoine hashar Musso


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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-17 Thread Tyler Romeo
Which bug is that? If there's not a patch I'll work on it ASAP. ;)

*--*
*Tyler Romeo*
Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015
Major in Computer Science
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On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 There is one more bug I'd like to fix before turning wgSecurelogin on.. I'm
 going to get it into wmf5, and then we can turn it on.
 On Nov 17, 2012 10:03 AM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:

  Le 16/11/12 22:04, Brion Vibber a écrit :
  snip
   Do we have a timetable for migrating all login sessions to HTTPS yet? I
   love that we've got a clean HTTPS option available, but it really
 skeezes
   me out that we still allow logins and passwords over plain HTTP.
  
   -- brion
 
  I guess it is all about enabling $wgSecureLogin [1] which would force
  the login form to use HTTPS for its POST.  I speedy hacked it two years
  ago and Chris Steipp has fixed it a few weeks ago.
 
  Maybe we could enable it on test first and see how it goes?
 
 
  [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSecureLogin
 
  --
  Antoine hashar Musso
 
 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-17 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 16/11/12 22:04, Brion Vibber wrote:
 Awesome! Another old hack swept away. :D

 Do we have a timetable for migrating all login sessions to HTTPS yet? I
 love that we've got a clean HTTPS option available, but it really skeezes
 me out that we still allow logins and passwords over plain HTTP.

 We have self-signed certificates, too... (bug 27291).


Correction: a self-signed certificate on a portion of our
infrastructure we don't want as part of the cluster, where we don't
trust our star certificates to live, and where we plan on completely
changing how this works, possibly with a different hostname. All of
this is mentioned in the bug and none of it has changed. That bug has
nothing to do with this discussion.

- Ryan

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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-16 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 Following last year's Native HTTPS efforts¹, I've pushed a change² today
 that redirects all the old secure.wikimedia.org URLs to the respective
 native HTTPS ones, e.g.
  https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page gets redirected
 to
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page


Awesome! Another old hack swept away. :D

Do we have a timetable for migrating all login sessions to HTTPS yet? I
love that we've got a clean HTTPS option available, but it really skeezes
me out that we still allow logins and passwords over plain HTTP.

-- brion
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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-15 Thread William Allen Simpson

On 11/14/12 5:56 PM, MZMcBride wrote:

Faidon Liambotis wrote:

Following last year's Native HTTPS efforts¹, I've pushed a change² today
that redirects all the old secure.wikimedia.org URLs to the respective
native HTTPS ones, e.g.
  https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page gets redirected to
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page


This is great. Thank you for your work on this. :-)


Cool.  Tested and works fine with HTTPS Everywhere.  And thanks for all the
helpful https work in the past few years!


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[Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-14 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Hi,

Following last year's Native HTTPS efforts¹, I've pushed a change² today
that redirects all the old secure.wikimedia.org URLs to the respective
native HTTPS ones, e.g.
 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page gets redirected to
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

The redirects are HTTP temporary redirects (302) for now. I'll soon
switch them to permanent (301), please do let me know if you see any
breakage in the meantime.

Regards,
Faidon

¹: 
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/03/native-https-support-enabled-for-all-wikimedia-foundation-wikis/
²: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/13429/

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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-14 Thread Derric Atzrott
Following last year's Native HTTPS efforts¹, I've pushed a change² today
that redirects all the old secure.wikimedia.org URLs to the respective
native HTTPS ones, e.g.
 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page gets redirected to
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page


Does anyone know if EFF's HTTPS Everywhere extension is set up to redirect to
secure.wikimedia.org?  If so, someone might want to let them know that we've
made this change.

I'll volunteer to do so if no one else wishes to.

The redirects are HTTP temporary redirects (302) for now. I'll soon
switch them to permanent (301), please do let me know if you see any
breakage in the meantime.




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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-14 Thread Chad
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Derric Atzrott
datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote:
Following last year's Native HTTPS efforts¹, I've pushed a change² today
that redirects all the old secure.wikimedia.org URLs to the respective
native HTTPS ones, e.g.
 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page gets redirected to
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page


 Does anyone know if EFF's HTTPS Everywhere extension is set up to redirect to
 secure.wikimedia.org?  If so, someone might want to let them know that we've
 made this change.

 I'll volunteer to do so if no one else wishes to.


HTTPS Everywhere should've been updated some time ago to use
the native https urls.

-Chad

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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-14 Thread Faidon Liambotis
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 01:48:27PM -0500, Derric Atzrott wrote:
 Following last year's Native HTTPS efforts¹, I've pushed a change² today
 that redirects all the old secure.wikimedia.org URLs to the respective
 native HTTPS ones, e.g.
  https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page gets redirected to
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
 
 Does anyone know if EFF's HTTPS Everywhere extension is set up to redirect to
 secure.wikimedia.org?  If so, someone might want to let them know that we've
 made this change.
 
 I'll volunteer to do so if no one else wishes to.

HTTPS Everywhere is currently set up to redirect using the native HTTPS
support (http://en.wp - https://en.wp); it used to support redirects to
secure.wikimedia.org, but Roan Kattouw and Sam Reed updated it quite a
while ago. secure.wm.org never supported HTTP and secure.wm.org HTTPS
gets redirected by our redirects without any privacy loss, so there's
nothing to add to HTTPS Everywhere that I can see.

Thanks for the offer though.

Regards,
Faidon

PS. Fun fact: HTTPS Everywhere's git master already has rules for
Wikidata  Wikivoyage, thanks to the always awesome Reedy.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-14 Thread MZMcBride
Faidon Liambotis wrote:
 Following last year's Native HTTPS efforts¹, I've pushed a change² today
 that redirects all the old secure.wikimedia.org URLs to the respective
 native HTTPS ones, e.g.
  https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page gets redirected to
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

This is great. Thank you for your work on this. :-)

MZMcBride



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