Re: [Wikitech-l] Global AbuseFilter testing!

2013-07-09 Thread Antoine Musso 
Le 09/07/13 03:45, John Erling Blad a écrit :
> I don't think global filters should be enabled unless they can be
> overridden locally. Only exception would be if all language specific
> tests can be disabled or being verified to not be in use for the
> specific filter.

I agree with you that global filters should be carefully used. On the
other hand it is going to help a lot fighting the most common abuse and
spam issues.

The smallest wiki communities probably do not have all the expertise the
biggest wiki have. With that feature applied, they will benefit from
analysis that already has been done.  Biggest wiki will also be able to
share their finding and that will surely lead to a better filtering
quality overall.

Disclaimer: I am an optimist and idealist person =)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Global AbuseFilter testing!

2013-07-09 Thread Antoine Musso 
Le 09/07/13 02:03, hoo a écrit :
> 
> Hello,
> 
> after a long time we're finally confident that the AbuseFilter extension
> is in a state in which it can be used for global filters. Therefore I'm
> happy to announce that from now on global AbuseFilters can be used on
> (some) Wikimedia Wikis.

Ohh. And I thought that was already the case :-) A few weeks ago
Steinsplitter pushed to have it fixed and enabled on the beta wikis
where it seems to be working fine to prevent spam.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Global AbuseFilter testing!

2013-07-08 Thread John Erling Blad 
I don't think global filters should be enabled unless they can be
overridden locally. Only exception would be if all language specific
tests can be disabled or being verified to not be in use for the
specific filter.

John

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:03 AM, hoo  wrote:
> Here's a copy of a mail I just sent to stewards-l about the trial
> deployment of global AbuseFilters:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> after a long time we're finally confident that the AbuseFilter extension
> is in a state in which it can be used for global filters. Therefore I'm
> happy to announce that from now on global AbuseFilters can be used on
> (some) Wikimedia Wikis.
>
> The filters can be created and edited by Stewards using the normal
> AbuseFilter interface on meta
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter ) and basically
> work like local filters (you only have to set the "Global filter" flag).
> Although global AbuseFilters are already in use on Wikimedia Labs for
> quite some time we would like you to start using them slowly, preferable
> with logging-only filters to prevent unforeseeable damage.
>
> Global filters are yet enabled on:
> metawiki, testwiki, test2wiki, mediawikiwiki
> (They will only filter changes on these wikis... Of course this trial
> will later be extended to further Wikis and it's planned to cover all
> Wikis at some point)
>
> Please notice that it's not yet possible to create custom warning
> message for global filters
> ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45164 ) and that global
> filters can't yet be enabled/ disabled for certain wikis only
> ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41172 ).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marius Hoch (Hoo man)
>
>
>
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