Re: [Wikitech-l] Maria DB
On 02/14/2013 05:11 PM, Platonides wrote: On 14/02/13 18:26, Faidon Liambotis wrote: This was years ago, I'm not sure what has happened since then. I remember being discussed in Debian as well, but it was never adopted, probably because noone ever implemented it :) Good question. There are a few bugs and blueprints about it, and they show as *implemented* What happened, then? It has been implemented on the Ubuntu side for a while. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash I just switched back to Debian but haven't had the need to see what is going on with ddebs -- till now! You can see the rationale here: http://wiki.debian.org/AutomaticDebugPackages Packages are hosted on http://debug.debian.net/ -- http://hexmode.com/ There is no path to peace. Peace is the path. -- Mahatma Gandhi, Non-Violence in Peace and War ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Maria DB
On 15/02/13 09:11, Platonides wrote: On 14/02/13 18:26, Faidon Liambotis wrote: Ubuntu has experimented in the past with the concept of automatically generating and shipping symbols for *all* packages, packaged up in a ddebs (same format as .deb) and shipped via a different repository that isn't mirrored by all of the downstream mirrors. This was years ago, I'm not sure what has happened since then. I remember being discussed in Debian as well, but it was never adopted, probably because noone ever implemented it :) Good question. There are a few bugs and blueprints about it, and they show as *implemented* Yes, it's implemented and works well. I use it on Wikimedia servers when I need debug symbols for stock packages. My only gripe is that it would be nice to have awareness of the feature in higher-level tools like apt and synaptic, to allow installation of the debug symbols of any package without slowing down apt-get update or cluttering up the synaptic package list. I'm thinking something similar to apt-get source. The Debian habit of adding -dbg packages to some fraction of binary packages also clutters the package list, but with an architecture that makes apt/synaptic support unlikely. For packages that we build ourselves, it's easier to just disable stripping. -- Tim Starling ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Maria DB
Umm there was a thread several months ago about how it is used on several of the slave dbs, if I recall. -bawolff On 2013-02-13 8:28 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have installed Maria DB to all my servers, including production servers few weeks ago, and I found it quite stable and I like it (even the command line tool for working with sql is far better than the one included in mysql pack) It's supported on all latest ubuntu versions from 10.04 UP (maybe even older) - so my question is, are we going to use it on wikimedia production? I think we could migrate beta cluster for now - it has terrible performance and this could help. It could be a first step to migrate wikimedia production cluster. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Maria DB
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:05 AM, bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com wrote: Umm there was a thread several months ago about how it is used on several of the slave dbs, if I recall. Indeed, you're looking for mariadb 5.5 in production for english wikipedia http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/319925 -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Maria DB
Okay - so what is outcome? Should we migrate beta cluster? Are we going to use it in production? On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:05 AM, bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com wrote: Umm there was a thread several months ago about how it is used on several of the slave dbs, if I recall. Indeed, you're looking for mariadb 5.5 in production for english wikipedia http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/319925 -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Maria DB
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Okay - so what is outcome? Should we migrate beta cluster? Are we going to use it in production? At the risk of derailing the conversation to an unrelated subject, I would rather work on finding a way to keep the db on beta cluster up to date rather than migrate to a whole different SQL implementation that is still not correct. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36228 -Chris ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Maria DB
As far as I know we're using a custom mariadb version in production, not the ubuntu version. It would be ideal to use the same versions for everything, but just switching out to MariaDB isn't going to solve anything for us. Also, we're not using MariaDB everywhere in production. We're using a mix of MySQL and MariaDB. Let's not change anything till we know how that's going to work out in production. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Okay - so what is outcome? Should we migrate beta cluster? Are we going to use it in production? On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:05 AM, bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com wrote: Umm there was a thread several months ago about how it is used on several of the slave dbs, if I recall. Indeed, you're looking for mariadb 5.5 in production for english wikipedia http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/319925 -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
