Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor relay, and freenode
Thanks for the note. Would it be within our mission scope to host a Freenode server? We use Freenode a *lot* for public and private communications. There have been previous discussions about WMF support for upstream services, and WMF has been talking about offering non-monetary support to affiliates, so I think hosting a Freenode server could make sense. Pine On Nov 10, 2014 1:11 AM, Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, This is just a quick update that as of late October, WMF is officially hosting a Tor relay: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/DB19E709C9EDB903F75F2E6CA95C84D637B62A02 This is not an exit node, and it's just a small contribution to the network. Really - anyone can do it: https://www.eff.org/torchallenge/ We want to note that editing via Tor is a whole other matter, and I would refer to previous conversations on this list if you have questions about the current state of things. We also currently have no plans to run an exit node or a hidden service, but we're open to suggestions for additional ways in which WMF can support anonymity and privacy. Sincerely, Faidon ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor relay, and freenode
Always thought Wikimedia has a freenode instance, as they do for etherpad. Well then, I think its about time. On Nov 10, 2014 9:29 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the note. Would it be within our mission scope to host a Freenode server? We use Freenode a *lot* for public and private communications. There have been previous discussions about WMF support for upstream services, and WMF has been talking about offering non-monetary support to affiliates, so I think hosting a Freenode server could make sense. Pine On Nov 10, 2014 1:11 AM, Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, This is just a quick update that as of late October, WMF is officially hosting a Tor relay: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/DB19E709C9EDB903F75F2E6CA95C84D637B62A02 This is not an exit node, and it's just a small contribution to the network. Really - anyone can do it: https://www.eff.org/torchallenge/ We want to note that editing via Tor is a whole other matter, and I would refer to previous conversations on this list if you have questions about the current state of things. We also currently have no plans to run an exit node or a hidden service, but we're open to suggestions for additional ways in which WMF can support anonymity and privacy. Sincerely, Faidon ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor relay, and freenode
Le 10/11/2014 10:28, Pine W a écrit : Thanks for the note. Would it be within our mission scope to host a Freenode server? We use Freenode a *lot* for public and private communications. There have been previous discussions about WMF support for upstream services, and WMF has been talking about offering non-monetary support to affiliates, so I think hosting a Freenode server could make sense. Pine Hello, We do since October 2013, the server is dickson.freenode.net https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Dickson -- Antoine hashar Musso ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor relay, and freenode
Hi Pine, On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 01:28:54AM -0800, Pine W wrote: Thanks for the note. Would it be within our mission scope to host a Freenode server? We use Freenode a *lot* for public and private communications. There have been previous discussions about WMF support for upstream services, and WMF has been talking about offering non-monetary support to affiliates, so I think hosting a Freenode server could make sense. We in fact, already do: that would be dickson.freenode.net. Unfortunately, the server has been taken offline since the compromise of the Freenode network back in September. We are in touch with the Freenode admins to understand the circumstances of the break-in and to what extent dickson was affected, as well as our post-breakin strategy (forensics, whether reimaging would be enough, etc.). This has taken longer than expected, unforunately. Suffice to say, the Freenode server is in a different administrative realm and is sandboxed and entirely separate from WMF production; compromises there would not have any effect to our production network. Faidon ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor relay, and freenode
Hello Antoine Thanks for pointing out. For some reason, I can't access the address. Maybe its down. Pings dont go through at all. Glad to know there's at least one freenode for Wikimedia. But if I may ask, it it official? It happens to be a sub domain of freenode. Not a bad idea, but was expecting to see something like freenode.Wikimedia.org or something like that. On Nov 10, 2014 9:35 AM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 10/11/2014 10:28, Pine W a écrit : Thanks for the note. Would it be within our mission scope to host a Freenode server? We use Freenode a *lot* for public and private communications. There have been previous discussions about WMF support for upstream services, and WMF has been talking about offering non-monetary support to affiliates, so I think hosting a Freenode server could make sense. Pine Hello, We do since October 2013, the server is dickson.freenode.net https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Dickson -- Antoine hashar Musso ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor relay, and freenode
Thought WMF already hosts one for freenode. There is only one TOR hidden service. On Mon, 10 Nov 2014, at 20:28, Pine W wrote: Thanks for the note. Would it be within our mission scope to host a Freenode server? We use Freenode a *lot* for public and private communications. There have been previous discussions about WMF support for upstream services, and WMF has been talking about offering non-monetary support to affiliates, so I think hosting a Freenode server could make sense. Pine On Nov 10, 2014 1:11 AM, Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, This is just a quick update that as of late October, WMF is officially hosting a Tor relay: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/DB19E709C9EDB903F75F2E6CA95C84D637B62A02 This is not an exit node, and it's just a small contribution to the network. Really - anyone can do it: https://www.eff.org/torchallenge/ We want to note that editing via Tor is a whole other matter, and I would refer to previous conversations on this list if you have questions about the current state of things. We also currently have no plans to run an exit node or a hidden service, but we're open to suggestions for additional ways in which WMF can support anonymity and privacy. Sincerely, Faidon ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor relay, and freenode
Nkansah Rexford wrote: Glad to know there's at least one freenode for Wikimedia. But if I may ask, it it official? It happens to be a sub domain of freenode. Not a bad idea, but was expecting to see something like freenode.Wikimedia.org or something like that. Quote from the freenode website: https://freenode.net/hosting_ircd.shtml The server naming motif is science fiction and fantasy authors. Vanity names may be provided, but canonical server names and standardised geographical names will be used exclusively by freenode. If you have preferred authors, let us know and we will try to honour your preference. That said, we can make a CNAME from freenode.Wikimedia.org to dickson.freenode.net if desired. svetlana ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor relay, and freenode
Le 10/11/2014 23:15, svetlana a écrit : Nkansah Rexford wrote: Glad to know there's at least one freenode for Wikimedia. But if I may ask, it it official? It happens to be a sub domain of freenode. Not a bad idea, but was expecting to see something like freenode.Wikimedia.org or something like that. snip That said, we can make a CNAME from freenode.Wikimedia.org to dickson.freenode.net if desired. svetlana The server hosted by Wikimedia is part of a rotation maintained by freenode. For the best service, you should connect to chat.freenode.net I am afraid adding a freenode.wikimedia.org alias would further confuse people, and if the server dies for some reason, leave users stuck or having to manually change to another one (chat.freenode.net will give you another server). -- Antoine hashar Musso ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
