Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?

2005-08-23 Thread Brian Rohrbacher 
Title: Message




Just typed up something on the laptop that said, "I owe you "this"
much", and we both signed it.  Not fancy, but a little better than an
oral agreement.  I won't miss a payment and will pay them back if it
takes closing the WISP and working 3 jobs.  Missing payments is not an
option.  Only if I'm laid up in the hospital.  Personal guaranteed? 
Well, I told them I will pay it back...  I know the agreement leaves a
lot open, but I trust these 4 people.  Anyway, so they are not
investors.  Lastly, lets just leave me be about this :)  I'd rather not
try to defend a million questions about what if this and what if that. 
It is what I did and it is done.

Charles Wu wrote:

  
  
  
  that would be a loan
  what type of collateral do they have? or what
happens if you miss a payment?
  have you personally guaranteed the money?
   
  -Charles
   
   

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian
Rohrbacher
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:20 PM
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Well, I guess we would call them loans as I have all control.  Correct
me if I am wrong.  They gave me money at a fixed rate.  Loans or
investments?

Charles Wu wrote:

  
  well...in determing their "dumbness" (assuming
you're willing to divulge this information) - what sort of investment /
equity share / control do your investors have?
   
  I mean...assuming it's you and the other 4, does
everyone have an equal share? (which is a different story all together)
or does 1 single person have a majority share and the other 4 are
minority partners
   
  -Charles
   
   

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On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:05 PM
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Well, I guess I found four "dumb" people that got me started.  All my
start up funds came from 4 people.  All four were subs from a previous
WISP I  owned,  (before my partner took everything over and left me out
in the cold)  they all said, "I want you providing service, not the
"other guy".  So here I am.  7 months in and going strong.  Oh, almost
forgot, like my lawyer has me say..all that is just my opinion.  ;-)   I think
"dumb" investors are great!
  
Charles Wu wrote:

  
  sure
   
  a passive minority equity position stake in a
privately held company is worthless, as legally, the person with the
majority stake can make 100% of the decisions (in terms of purchasing,
spending, cash distribution, etc)
   
  think about it, if it was your money, would you
be willing to just "invest it" into a company when the majority partner
can do whatever he/she wants to and you have no recourse?
   
  -Charles
   

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 4:10 PM
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Charles,

would you expand on that?

On 8/22/05, Charles Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
FWIW...no
invester (other than friends and family) worth their salt will be
willing to invest capital into the company for a minority position, as
that
is basically a sure way to guarantee the loss of their money
  
That said, there is a fool born every day
  
-Charles



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RE: [WISPA] Comment Period Extended....

2005-08-23 Thread Rick Smith 
Bob,

What is Continental trying to accomplish ?   A change to OTARD ?   Got an 
originating docket # ?

R
 

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FYI:

OET SEEKS COMMENT ON PETITION FROM CONTINENTAL AIRLINES FOR DECLARATORY RULING 
REGARDING WHETHER CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS ON ANTENNA INSTALLATION ARE PERMISSIBLE 
UNDER THE COMMISSION'S OVER-THE-AIR RECEPTION DEVICES
(OTARD) RULES.   Extended the time to file comments and reply comments.
by Order Extending Comment Period. (Dkt No.  05-247). Action by:  Acting Chief, 
Office of Engineering and Technology. Comments Due:  09/28/2005.
Reply Comments Due:  10/13/2005. Adopted:  08/22/2005 by ORDER. (DA No.
05-2335).  OET


 



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[WISPA] Comment Period Extended....

2005-08-23 Thread Bob Moldashel 

FYI:

OET SEEKS COMMENT ON PETITION FROM CONTINENTAL AIRLINES FOR DECLARATORY
RULING REGARDING WHETHER CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS ON ANTENNA INSTALLATION
ARE PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE COMMISSION'S OVER-THE-AIR RECEPTION DEVICES
(OTARD) RULES.   Extended the time to file comments and reply comments.
by Order Extending Comment Period. (Dkt No.  05-247). Action by:  Acting
Chief, Office of Engineering and Technology. Comments Due:  09/28/2005.
Reply Comments Due:  10/13/2005. Adopted:  08/22/2005 by ORDER. (DA No.
05-2335).  OET


 




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Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?

2005-08-23 Thread Tom DeReggi 

Although you speak of a common reality, that is not intirely true.

People invest their money in companies on a daily basis, without being 
majority equity holder.  Its called the stock market.  The big difference is 
public versus private comapny.  But there are many type of agreements to 
guarantee payback of an investment, without controlling stock, that can't be 
undone by the controlling partner.  For example, the payback/ROI terms 
defined in an enforceable agreement.  The point I'm making is that the terms 
of a loan do not have to be fixed, and can have variables based on certain 
things happening. For example for every dollar paid out in payroll, a dollar 
needs to be repaid back to loan, if not, lender has right to demand payment 
in full, at top priority over future lenders or agreements, etc.  Which 
could result in the take over of the company, by the investor, if the owner 
is not responsible.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc

IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?


FWIW...no invester (other than friends and family) worth their salt will 
be
willing to invest capital into the company for a minority position, as 
that

is basically a sure way to guarantee the loss of their money

That said, there is a fool born every day

-Charles


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Behalf Of Frank Muto
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 1:50 PM
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First ask yourself, "how much control and equity am I willing to give up"?



Frank Muto
President/Ceo
FSM Marketing Group, Inc






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From: "Dan Metcalf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Any wisp's ever take on an investor? I'm looking to expand and
wondering

how I

should handle a potential investor who is willing to provide some
serious capitol?

Thanks

Dan


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Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?

2005-08-23 Thread Tom DeReggi 
Title: Message



An investor has nothing to do with equity stake. An 
investor is someone who provides money with an expectation to get a return on 
that money. The difference between and investor and a loan, is that a loan 
is guaranteed to be paid back at a guaranteed ROI or interest rate, and 
guaranteed pay schedule.
 
An investor really only cares about getting the 
maximum return on investment, and is more flexible on the terms, if it means 
that they may get a higher ROI down the road because of the terms that were 
extended.  An investor is expected to make more because their is more 
risk.  Butan investor does not need to be an equity stake 
holder.  
 
Now on the books, payments received into the 
company have to be recorded as one of several methods. The two most common 
are listed on the books as a loan, or as a cash deposit in the company back 
account, which could be defined as equity.  The corporate docs would 
discuss the terms of that investment or cash injection.  Its really 
just a tax and liability issue.  You can make the terms of a loan 
or investment just about anything that you want it to be.  
 
 
Tom DeReggiRapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
 
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Charles Wu 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:04 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] Taking on an 
  investor?
  
  that 
  would be a loan
  what 
  type of collateral do they have? or what happens if you miss a 
  payment?
  have 
  you personally guaranteed the money?
   
  -Charles
   
   
  ---WISPNOG Park 
  City, UThttp://www.wispnog.comAugust 15-17, 
  2005 
  

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian 
RohrbacherSent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:20 PMTo: 
WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Taking on an 
investor?Well, I guess we would call them loans as I 
have all control.  Correct me if I am wrong.  They gave me money 
at a fixed rate.  Loans or investments?Charles Wu wrote: 

  
  well...in determing their "dumbness" (assuming you're willing to 
  divulge this information) - what sort of investment / equity share / 
  control do your investors have?
   
  I mean...assuming it's you and the other 4, does everyone have an 
  equal share? (which is a different story all together) or does 1 single 
  person have a majority share and the other 4 are minority 
  partners
   
  -Charles
   
   
  ---WISPNOG 
  Park City, UThttp://www.wispnog.comAugust 15-17, 
  2005 
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Brian RohrbacherSent: Monday, August 22, 
2005 8:05 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: 
[WISPA] Taking on an investor?Well, I guess I found 
four "dumb" people that got me started.  All my start up funds came 
from 4 people.  All four were subs from a previous WISP I  
owned,  (before my partner took everything over and left me out in 
the cold)  they all said, "I want you providing service, not the 
"other guy".  So here I am.  7 months in and going 
strong.  Oh, almost forgot, like my lawyer has me say..all that 
is just my opinion.  ;-)   
I think "dumb" investors are great!  Charles 
Wu wrote: 

  
  sure
   
  a passive minority equity position stake in a privately held 
  company is worthless, as legally, the person with the majority stake 
  can make 100% of the decisions (in terms of purchasing, spending, cash 
  distribution, etc)
   
  think about it, if it was your money, would you be willing to 
  just "invest it" into a company when the majority partner can do 
  whatever he/she wants to and you have no recourse?
   
  -Charles
   
  ---WISPNOG 
  Park City, UThttp://www.wispnog.comAugust 
  15-17, 2005 
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Dylan OliverSent: Monday, August 22, 
2005 4:10 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: 
[WISPA] Taking on an 
investor?Charles,would you expand on 
that?
On 8/22/05, Charles Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
FWIW...no 
  invester (other than friends and family) worth their salt will 
  bewilling to invest capital into the company for a minority 
  position, as thatis basically a sure way to guarantee the loss 
  of their moneyThat said, there is a fool born every

RE: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?

2005-08-23 Thread Charles Wu 
Title: Message



that 
would be a loan
what 
type of collateral do they have? or what happens if you miss a 
payment?
have 
you personally guaranteed the money?
 
-Charles
 
 
---WISPNOG Park 
City, UThttp://www.wispnog.comAugust 15-17, 
2005 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Brian RohrbacherSent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:20 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Taking on 
  an investor?Well, I guess we would call them loans as I 
  have all control.  Correct me if I am wrong.  They gave me money at 
  a fixed rate.  Loans or investments?Charles Wu wrote: 
  

well...in determing their "dumbness" (assuming you're willing to 
divulge this information) - what sort of investment / equity share / control 
do your investors have?
 
I 
mean...assuming it's you and the other 4, does everyone have an equal share? 
(which is a different story all together) or does 1 single person have a 
majority share and the other 4 are minority partners
 
-Charles
 
 
---WISPNOG Park 
City, UThttp://www.wispnog.comAugust 15-17, 
2005 

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Brian RohrbacherSent: Monday, August 22, 
  2005 8:05 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: 
  [WISPA] Taking on an investor?Well, I guess I found 
  four "dumb" people that got me started.  All my start up funds came 
  from 4 people.  All four were subs from a previous WISP I  
  owned,  (before my partner took everything over and left me out in 
  the cold)  they all said, "I want you providing service, not the 
  "other guy".  So here I am.  7 months in and going strong.  
  Oh, almost forgot, like my lawyer has me say..all that is just my 
  opinion.  ;-)   
  I think "dumb" investors are great!  Charles Wu 
  wrote: 
  
sure
 
a passive minority equity position stake in a privately held 
company is worthless, as legally, the person with the majority stake can 
make 100% of the decisions (in terms of purchasing, spending, cash 
distribution, etc)
 
think about it, if it was your money, would you be willing to 
just "invest it" into a company when the majority partner can do 
whatever he/she wants to and you have no recourse?
 
-Charles
 
---WISPNOG 
Park City, UThttp://www.wispnog.comAugust 
15-17, 2005 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Dylan OliverSent: Monday, August 22, 
  2005 4:10 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: 
  [WISPA] Taking on an 
  investor?Charles,would you expand on 
  that?
  On 8/22/05, Charles Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  FWIW...no 
invester (other than friends and family) worth their salt will 
bewilling to invest capital into the company for a minority 
position, as thatis basically a sure way to guarantee the loss 
of their moneyThat said, there is a fool born every 
day-Charles-- Dylan 
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RE: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477

2005-08-23 Thread Mike Bushard Jr 
Sure would be nice if the font was bigger.

Mike Bushard Jr
Reliable Internet Services
1st Rate Computers
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Todd,

Yes, this report is filed twice a year.  March 1st and September 1st are the
deadlines.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
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Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:49 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477

I filled this out in Feb of this year.  Is this a twice a year
requirement?  Do I need to file again for 2005?

Todd Barber
Skylink Broadband Internet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
970-454-9499
 

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Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477

Did you understand 90% of it?  We skipped a ton.  And I sent a note to
the 
FCC asking if a more isp centric form could be created.

laters,
Marlon
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Subject: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477


> For those of you in the states...remember that you have to file form
477 
> with the FCC by September 1.
>
> Here is a link to the form:
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477
>
> Took me about 30 minutes to get mine done.
>
> Cheers,
>
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RE: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477

2005-08-23 Thread Rick Harnish 
Todd,

Yes, this report is filed twice a year.  March 1st and September 1st are the
deadlines.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
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www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Todd Barber
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477

I filled this out in Feb of this year.  Is this a twice a year
requirement?  Do I need to file again for 2005?

Todd Barber
Skylink Broadband Internet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
970-454-9499
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:35 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477

Did you understand 90% of it?  We skipped a ton.  And I sent a note to
the 
FCC asking if a more isp centric form could be created.

laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:00 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477


> For those of you in the states...remember that you have to file form
477 
> with the FCC by September 1.
>
> Here is a link to the form:
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477
>
> Took me about 30 minutes to get mine done.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matt Larsen
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RE: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477

2005-08-23 Thread Todd Barber 
I filled this out in Feb of this year.  Is this a twice a year
requirement?  Do I need to file again for 2005?

Todd Barber
Skylink Broadband Internet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
970-454-9499
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:35 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477

Did you understand 90% of it?  We skipped a ton.  And I sent a note to
the 
FCC asking if a more isp centric form could be created.

laters,
Marlon
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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:00 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477


> For those of you in the states...remember that you have to file form
477 
> with the FCC by September 1.
>
> Here is a link to the form:
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477
>
> Took me about 30 minutes to get mine done.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matt Larsen
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Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477

2005-08-23 Thread Mark Koskenmaki 
While you're at it, could you ask them what thier regulatory power comes
from?   How can they impose fines on a non-regulated business, that does not
require thier action to exist?

Further, what's the justification in the first place?   I think this is the
camel's nose and if we don't stand up and tell them to shove off, we'll be
steamrollered into non-existence real fast.


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From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477


> Did you understand 90% of it?  We skipped a ton.  And I sent a note to the
> FCC asking if a more isp centric form could be created.
>
> laters,
> Marlon
> (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
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> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
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>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:00 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477
>
>
> > For those of you in the states...remember that you have to file form 477
> > with the FCC by September 1.
> >
> > Here is a link to the form:
> >
> > http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477
> >
> > Took me about 30 minutes to get mine done.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Matt Larsen
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[WISPA] 2 backhauls, STP question

2005-08-23 Thread Dan Metcalf 
I have a tower, that has 2 backhaul's (1 karlnet, 1 MT), both support STP, if I
connect both backhauls into the dump layer 2 switch I pretty sure I would get a
bridge loop

But I'm wondering if I enable STP on the karlnet and MT bridge's if that will
prevent the bridge and via STP priority provide sometype of failover if one of
the backhaul goes down?

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Dan
 

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Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477

2005-08-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 
Did you understand 90% of it?  We skipped a ton.  And I sent a note to the 
FCC asking if a more isp centric form could be created.


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42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
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From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:00 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477


For those of you in the states...remember that you have to file form 477 
with the FCC by September 1.


Here is a link to the form:

http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477

Took me about 30 minutes to get mine done.

Cheers,

Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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