Just typed up something on the laptop that said, "I owe you "this"
much", and we both signed it. Not fancy, but a little better than an
oral agreement. I won't miss a payment and will pay them back if it
takes closing the WISP and working 3 jobs. Missing payments is not an
option. Only if I'm laid up in the hospital. Personal guaranteed?
Well, I told them I will pay it back... I know the agreement leaves a
lot open, but I trust these 4 people. Anyway, so they are not
investors. Lastly, lets just leave me be about this :) I'd rather not
try to defend a million questions about what if this and what if that.
It is what I did and it is done.
Charles Wu wrote:
that would be a loan
what type of collateral do they have? or what
happens if you miss a payment?
have you personally guaranteed the money?
-Charles
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WISPNOG Park City, UT
http://www.wispnog.com
August 15-17, 2005
Well, I guess we would call them loans as I have all control. Correct
me if I am wrong. They gave me money at a fixed rate. Loans or
investments?
Charles Wu wrote:
well...in determing their "dumbness" (assuming
you're willing to divulge this information) - what sort of investment /
equity share / control do your investors have?
I mean...assuming it's you and the other 4, does
everyone have an equal share? (which is a different story all together)
or does 1 single person have a majority share and the other 4 are
minority partners
-Charles
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WISPNOG Park City, UT
http://www.wispnog.com
August 15-17, 2005
Well, I guess I found four "dumb" people that got me started. All my
start up funds came from 4 people. All four were subs from a previous
WISP I owned, (before my partner took everything over and left me out
in the cold) they all said, "I want you providing service, not the
"other guy". So here I am. 7 months in and going strong. Oh, almost
forgot, like my lawyer has me say......all that is just my opinion. ;-) I think
"dumb" investors are great!
Charles Wu wrote:
sure
a passive minority equity position stake in a
privately held company is worthless, as legally, the person with the
majority stake can make 100% of the decisions (in terms of purchasing,
spending, cash distribution, etc)
think about it, if it was your money, would you
be willing to just "invest it" into a company when the majority partner
can do whatever he/she wants to and you have no recourse?
-Charles
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WISPNOG Park City, UT
http://www.wispnog.com
August 15-17, 2005
Charles,
would you expand on that?
On 8/22/05, Charles Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
FWIW...no
invester (other than friends and family) worth their salt will be
willing to invest capital into the company for a minority position, as
that
is basically a sure way to guarantee the loss of their money
That said, there is a fool born every day
-Charles
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