RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo

2006-02-28 Thread G.Villarini








Tranzeo, 50 Mbps ? I dont think so





Gino A. Villarini, 

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

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Can anyone share experiences with the Tranzeo 5824F
series? Looking for a BH solution that supports QoS and is upwards of 50
Mb and reliable. Ive looked at this, Ceragon and Waverider. Any insights
are much appreciated.



Chris Cooper

Intelliwave






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Re: [WISPA] WISPS DO have to file the 477

2006-02-28 Thread Mario Pommier

so what is the link to the form?
I've seen links to instructions, and descriptions in the fcc website.
Maybe my browser is hiding the actual form.
thanks.

Mario

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


Thanks Kris!

For those that don't know him, Kris is a telecom attorney who's been a 
HUGE friend to the WISP industry.


http://www.lokt.net/

Laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Yes, WISPs must fill out Form 477. Here is the link to the 
instructions for

the form: http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf
In that form, the relevant part is below. And as an aside, sheesh, 
everybody

should try to be a little nicer to each other. And that's coming from a
lawyer even...

. Facilities-based Providers of Broadband Connections to End User 
Locations:

Entities that are facilities-based providers of broadband connections -
which, for purposes of this information collection, are wired lines or
wireless channels that enable the end user to receive information from
and/or send information to the Internet at information transfer rates
exceeding 200 kbps in at least one direction - must complete and file 
the
applicable portions of this form for each state in which the entity 
provides

one or more such connections to end user locations.

For the purposes of Form 477, an entity is a facilities-based 
provider of
broadband connections to end user locations if it owns the portion of 
the
physical facility that terminates at the end user location, if it 
obtains

unbundled network elements (UNEs), special access lines, or other leased
facilities that terminate at the end user location and provisions/equips
them as broadband, or if it provisions/equips a broadband wireless 
channel
to the end user location over licensed or unlicensed spectrum. Such 
entities

include incumbent and competitive local exchange carriers (LECs), cable
system operators, fixed wireless service providers (including wireless
ISPs), terrestrial and satellite mobile wireless service providers, 
MMDS

providers, electric utilities, municipalities, and other entities. (Such
entities do not include equipment suppliers unless the equipment 
supplier
uses the equipment to provision a broadband connection that it offers 
to the

public for sale. Such entities also do not include providers of fixed
wireless services (e.g., Wi-Fi and other wireless ethernet,or wireless
local area network, applications) that only enable local distribution 
and
sharing of a premises broadband facility.) For such entities, the 
applicable

portions of the form are: 1) the Cover Page; 2) Part I; 3) Part IV (if
necessary); and the relevant portion(s) of Part V.

Kris
__
Kristopher E. Twomey
Telecom/Internet Law and Regulatory Consulting
510 903-1304
www.lokt.net


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Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:24:50 -0800
From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA FCC] Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st
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It was 400 wisps last I heard.

You HAVE to fill it out.  Doesn't do anything for you to not fill it out
anyway.

On this note.  I spent quite a bit of time on the phone with the 477 
folks

today (we're working with them on a solution for those that don't have
excel).

It turns out it's not unusual for third parties to file for you.  You 
just
have to sign a form saying that the info from the other party is 
accurate.

Many small telcos have consultants or lawyers do it for them.

Having said that, we'll send them in for anyone that 

RE: [WISPA] WISPS DO have to file the 477

2006-02-28 Thread Rick Harnish
http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html


Rick Harnish
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260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
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Behalf Of Mario Pommier
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPS DO have to file the 477

so what is the link to the form?
I've seen links to instructions, and descriptions in the fcc website.
Maybe my browser is hiding the actual form.
thanks.

Mario

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

 Thanks Kris!

 For those that don't know him, Kris is a telecom attorney who's been a 
 HUGE friend to the WISP industry.

 http://www.lokt.net/

 Laters,
 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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 Yes, WISPs must fill out Form 477. Here is the link to the 
 instructions for
 the form: http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf
 In that form, the relevant part is below. And as an aside, sheesh, 
 everybody
 should try to be a little nicer to each other. And that's coming from a
 lawyer even...

 . Facilities-based Providers of Broadband Connections to End User 
 Locations:
 Entities that are facilities-based providers of broadband connections -
 which, for purposes of this information collection, are wired lines or
 wireless channels that enable the end user to receive information from
 and/or send information to the Internet at information transfer rates
 exceeding 200 kbps in at least one direction - must complete and file 
 the
 applicable portions of this form for each state in which the entity 
 provides
 one or more such connections to end user locations.

 For the purposes of Form 477, an entity is a facilities-based 
 provider of
 broadband connections to end user locations if it owns the portion of 
 the
 physical facility that terminates at the end user location, if it 
 obtains
 unbundled network elements (UNEs), special access lines, or other leased
 facilities that terminate at the end user location and provisions/equips
 them as broadband, or if it provisions/equips a broadband wireless 
 channel
 to the end user location over licensed or unlicensed spectrum. Such 
 entities
 include incumbent and competitive local exchange carriers (LECs), cable
 system operators, fixed wireless service providers (including wireless
 ISPs), terrestrial and satellite mobile wireless service providers, 
 MMDS
 providers, electric utilities, municipalities, and other entities. (Such
 entities do not include equipment suppliers unless the equipment 
 supplier
 uses the equipment to provision a broadband connection that it offers 
 to the
 public for sale. Such entities also do not include providers of fixed
 wireless services (e.g., Wi-Fi and other wireless ethernet,or wireless
 local area network, applications) that only enable local distribution 
 and
 sharing of a premises broadband facility.) For such entities, the 
 applicable
 portions of the form are: 1) the Cover Page; 2) Part I; 3) Part IV (if
 necessary); and the relevant portion(s) of Part V.

 Kris
 __
 Kristopher E. Twomey
 Telecom/Internet Law and Regulatory Consulting
 510 903-1304
 www.lokt.net


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 It was 400 wisps last I heard.

 You HAVE 

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo

2006-02-28 Thread Mac Dearman
I personally have 2 links made with the TR5a-24 radios from Tranzeo. One 
of them has been in place about 2 months and I must say that they havent 
burped, hick-up'd or farted even once! I am thus far extremely impressed 
and very satisified - to say the least. The fiorst link shows a 54Mbps 
link at -71 and is a 4 mile CLOS shot and the other is a 8 mile shot 
CLOS -83 showing a 36Mbps link. Am I smiling? Yess :-)


Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
www.inetsouth.com
www.mac-tel.us
www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
Rayville, La.
318.728.8600 
318.303.4227

318.303.4229







chris cooper wrote:

Can anyone share experiences with the Tranzeo 5824F series?  Looking 
for a BH solution that supports QoS and is upwards of 50 Mb and 
reliable. Ive looked at this, Ceragon and Waverider.  Any insights are 
much appreciated.


 


Chris Cooper

Intelliwave


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Re: [WISPA] WISPS DO have to file the 477

2006-02-28 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Interesting, the drop down box in #3 has the names of everyone who filed 
last time.


Matt Larsen
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Rick Harnish wrote:


http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mario Pommier
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPS DO have to file the 477

so what is the link to the form?
I've seen links to instructions, and descriptions in the fcc website.
Maybe my browser is hiding the actual form.
thanks.

Mario

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

 


Thanks Kris!

For those that don't know him, Kris is a telecom attorney who's been a 
HUGE friend to the WISP industry.


http://www.lokt.net/

Laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Subject: RE: FCC Digest, Vol 12, Issue 8


   

Yes, WISPs must fill out Form 477. Here is the link to the 
instructions for

the form: http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf
In that form, the relevant part is below. And as an aside, sheesh, 
everybody

should try to be a little nicer to each other. And that's coming from a
lawyer even...

. Facilities-based Providers of Broadband Connections to End User 
Locations:

Entities that are facilities-based providers of broadband connections -
which, for purposes of this information collection, are wired lines or
wireless channels that enable the end user to receive information from
and/or send information to the Internet at information transfer rates
exceeding 200 kbps in at least one direction - must complete and file 
the
applicable portions of this form for each state in which the entity 
provides

one or more such connections to end user locations.

For the purposes of Form 477, an entity is a facilities-based 
provider of
broadband connections to end user locations if it owns the portion of 
the
physical facility that terminates at the end user location, if it 
obtains

unbundled network elements (UNEs), special access lines, or other leased
facilities that terminate at the end user location and provisions/equips
them as broadband, or if it provisions/equips a broadband wireless 
channel
to the end user location over licensed or unlicensed spectrum. Such 
entities

include incumbent and competitive local exchange carriers (LECs), cable
system operators, fixed wireless service providers (including wireless
ISPs), terrestrial and satellite mobile wireless service providers, 
MMDS

providers, electric utilities, municipalities, and other entities. (Such
entities do not include equipment suppliers unless the equipment 
supplier
uses the equipment to provision a broadband connection that it offers 
to the

public for sale. Such entities also do not include providers of fixed
wireless services (e.g., Wi-Fi and other wireless ethernet,or wireless
local area network, applications) that only enable local distribution 
and
sharing of a premises broadband facility.) For such entities, the 
applicable

portions of the form are: 1) the Cover Page; 2) Part I; 3) Part IV (if
necessary); and the relevant portion(s) of Part V.

Kris
__
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Telecom/Internet Law and Regulatory Consulting
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[WISPA] Fw: Form 477 questions and answers

2006-02-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Hi All,

I put together some questions for Ellen a while back (22 days as it turns 
out) and just got a reply.  Some of this you already know but there's some 
really cool background info here too.  Ellen did a great job of explaining 
why the 477 exists and what it's there for.


Enjoy,
Marlon
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(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
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From: Ellen Burton 

To: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:59 AM
Subject: RE: Form 477 questions


Marlon, sorry about the delay, but I've now inserted answers after each
of your four questions.  At least some of this covers old ground, but
the questions keep coming up.--Ellen

Ellen Burton
Assistant Chief
Industry Analysis and Technology Division
Wireline Competition Bureau
Federal Communications Commission


-Original Message-
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:58 AM
To: Ellen Burton
Subject: Form 477 questions

Hi Ellen,

It seems my post has sparked a bit of a firestorm amongst our more
conspiracy minded within the WISP industry.

Can we please get a few questions answered?

(1)  What is the penalty for not filing?

ANSWER:  This is addressed by #20 of the Form 477 FAQs posted at
www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html.  Entities that are
required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be subject to the
enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any other
applicable law.  In particular, the Commission has authority pursuant to
sections 502 and 503 of the Communications Act to enforce compliance by
fine or forfeiture.  The standard legal language for Federal government
data collections appears in Section VII (Disclosure, Privacy Act,
Paperwork Reduction Act Notice) at the end of the Form 477 detailed
reporting instructions, which is the pdf file posted at the Instructions
link at www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477.

(2)  Is our data secure or can our competitors find out private business
info by requesting info from the form?

ANSWER:  It is the FCC's policy to include in its published reports only
aggregated information (e.g., by state, by technology groupings) that
hides the subscribers/broadband connections information of individual
Form 477 filers.  (All the Form 477-based information that the FCC has
released to the public is posted at www.fcc.gov/wcb/iatd/comp.html or
has been included in the FCC's periodic broadband deployment reports to
Congress that are posted at www.fcc.gov/broadband/706.html)  Form 477
filers may request confidential treatment for competitively sensitive
information by using a drop-down list on the first page (Question 8 in
the Cover Page section) of the form.  There are two choices in the
drop-down list:  All data in this report may be made public and Filer
certifies that some data in this report is privileged and confidential.
(Filers who can't use Excel will not be able to use the drop-down list
and will have to type in one of these responses.)  If a Form 477 has
Filer certifies that some data in this report is privileged and
confidential in Question 8 of the Cover Page section and the FCC
receives a request for the data under the Freedom of Information Act
(FOIA), the filer will be notified, will receive a copy of the FOIA
request for the data, will have the opportunity to explain why the
information that has been requested is privileged and confidential
(e.g., that it is confidential commercial information that the filer
does not customarily disclose to the public and whose release would
likely cause competitive injury to the filer) and, in general, will have
all the procedural protections that apply under the FOIA law, including
rights to appeal any FCC decision to release data.

(3)  How will the data collected in the form be used (ie: justification
for more spectrum or more taxes or both, something else?)?

ANSWER:  FCC Form 477 exists because Congress, in the Telecommunications
Act of 1996, told the FCC to determine whether advanced
telecommunications capability is being deployed to all Americans in a
reasonable and timely fashion, and the FCC decided that it needed to
collect information about what it calls broadband connections in order
to do that.  Congress told the FCC to proceed without regard to any
transmission media or technology.  Initially Form 477 had a
mandatory-reporting threshold of 250 broadband connections in a state,
which effectively exempted many WISPs, but there is no longer any
size-based exemption.  The Commission made this change to get better
information about broadband in rural, sparsely populated areas.  In the
section of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 just mentioned (which is
section 706), 

RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo

2006-02-28 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I am getting 20mbps with these, I also noticed that that will still
function at -91 at 6mbps and not drop packets.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com


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Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo

I personally have 2 links made with the TR5a-24 radios from Tranzeo. One

of them has been in place about 2 months and I must say that they havent

burped, hick-up'd or farted even once! I am thus far extremely impressed

and very satisified - to say the least. The fiorst link shows a 54Mbps 
link at -71 and is a 4 mile CLOS shot and the other is a 8 mile shot 
CLOS -83 showing a 36Mbps link. Am I smiling? Yess :-)

Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
www.inetsouth.com
www.mac-tel.us
www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
Rayville, La.
318.728.8600 
318.303.4227
318.303.4229







chris cooper wrote:

 Can anyone share experiences with the Tranzeo 5824F series?  Looking 
 for a BH solution that supports QoS and is upwards of 50 Mb and 
 reliable. Ive looked at this, Ceragon and Waverider.  Any insights are

 much appreciated.

  

 Chris Cooper

 Intelliwave

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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo

2006-02-28 Thread Bob Moldashel
Ssshsss..   Be quiet. 

If you guys keep bragging about these there will be no stock when I 
place my next order


:-)

It takes alot to make me happy but the Tranzeos are doing a good job...

-B-


Kurt Fankhauser wrote:


I am getting 20mbps with these, I also noticed that that will still
function at -91 at 6mbps and not drop packets.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo

I personally have 2 links made with the TR5a-24 radios from Tranzeo. One

of them has been in place about 2 months and I must say that they havent

burped, hick-up'd or farted even once! I am thus far extremely impressed

and very satisified - to say the least. The fiorst link shows a 54Mbps 
link at -71 and is a 4 mile CLOS shot and the other is a 8 mile shot 
CLOS -83 showing a 36Mbps link. Am I smiling? Yess :-)


Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
www.inetsouth.com
www.mac-tel.us
www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
Rayville, La.
318.728.8600 
318.303.4227

318.303.4229







chris cooper wrote:

 

Can anyone share experiences with the Tranzeo 5824F series?  Looking 
for a BH solution that supports QoS and is upwards of 50 Mb and 
reliable. Ive looked at this, Ceragon and Waverider.  Any insights are
   



 


much appreciated.



Chris Cooper

Intelliwave

   




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Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-28 Thread John J. Thomas
The Cisco radios can do 4.9-5.8 GHz. I am assuming that 5.3-5.7 will be 
available in a update, since 4.9 is available now. Cisco apparently only has 
6-8 deployments so far, and they are releasing updates regularly.

Our install is tentatively scheduled for March 14th, so I should be able to 
post info shortly thereafter.

John


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

It uses a 5.7-8 GHz radio for backhaul and 2.4 GHz for access.

Thats the first mistake of the gear. It should take advantage of 5.3Ghz and
5.4Ghz, for creating its backhauls.  Using 5.8Ghz for short range backhauls,
just means that they plan to go head to head against Super Cell providers.
Sounds like an Interference battle to me.

I wonder why so many people never listen to the quote I took the road less
travelled, and it made all the difference, Robert Frost.

5.8Ghz is best for Sector deployments that really need the higher power to
blast through obstructions or long haul. So why pick the spectrum most in
demand by everyone else? Unless of course the idea was to deploy sector 
super cell designs as the core to feed the MESH relay points. However, that
wouldn't really be typical mesh topology, (although it may according to 
Cisco's definition :-)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: John J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment


We are still waiting to deply Cisco mesh, so I can't vouch for it *yet*. We
will be installing for the City of Gilroy Ca. probably in the next 4 weeks.
This is currently only a partial deployment, but they plan on lighting the
whole city. I can tell you that the equipment is expensive -$3500 per mesh
box but has fantastic specs. It uses a 5.7-8 GHz radio for backhaul and 2.4
GHz for access. As soon as I get the testing done, I promise to share
numbers

John Thomas


-Original Message-
From: ISPlists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 02:32 PM
To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com, ''WISPA General List''
Subject: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

Does anyone have a good recommendation on some Mesh equipment.  I have a
small town that wants to provide Internet access to the entire town and I'm
thinking of using mesh technology.  Any ideas would be great.

Thanks,
Steve


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