Re: [WISPA] IPv6 - anyone using it?
Windows XP supports IPv6. There is a separate IPv6 Internet. You need to buy your IPv6 service from a different provider that support it. Once I get settled and can afford the separate IPv6 feed without an immediate return, I'll be getting it. Everything I have is Mikrotik and they should have IPv6 implemented at some point. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Bushard, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:59 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] IPv6 - anyone using it? I really dread IPv6.so much more complicated. I probably would run it, but from my understanding there is a ton of equipment on the internet backbone that won't route it. Not to mention how many SOHO routers and PC's are ready for it? Will your CPE support it? And the list goes on, I foresee a mad rush for upgrades and implementation the day v4 space is gone, and not a second before. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] IPv6 - anyone using it? With the recent announcement by ARIN to start pushing IPv6 uptake, and the run out date of v4 is as soon as 2010, I was wondering is anyone are here using v6 in some form or planning the switchover? Since it is much more than renumbering customers, the needed time for deploying it will be much longer, is your infrastructure ready for it? http://www.arin.net/announcements/20070521.html http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070521-arin-its-time-to- migrate-to-ipv6.html Have a great evening, Ryan -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPv6 - anyone using it?
IPv6 is pretty much free to run on a play level. In the next couple of months, I'm planning on having some equipment up on IPv6, and I will be happy to offer tunneling services at a near free cost (just a token amount to avoid dealing with people who aren't really interested) to anyone who wants to play around with it. The basic idea is that you will be able to take a router (or a server) capable of IPv6, give it a normal IPv4 address on your network, and tunnel in (basically using the same concept as a VPN, sort of). There are also free services out there as well, albeit with nominal support. From a few discussions I've had on this, it is good to know sooner rather than later. While widespread adoption is a few years away, there are carriers who will be transitioning to IPv6 on the transit level before that point. It doesn't affect your ability to offer IPv4 services through them, but, your interconnect will be IPv6, so on and so forth. -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies On 5/25/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Windows XP supports IPv6. There is a separate IPv6 Internet. You need to buy your IPv6 service from a different provider that support it. Once I get settled and can afford the separate IPv6 feed without an immediate return, I'll be getting it. Everything I have is Mikrotik and they should have IPv6 implemented at some point. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Bushard, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:59 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] IPv6 - anyone using it? I really dread IPv6.so much more complicated. I probably would run it, but from my understanding there is a ton of equipment on the internet backbone that won't route it. Not to mention how many SOHO routers and PC's are ready for it? Will your CPE support it? And the list goes on, I foresee a mad rush for upgrades and implementation the day v4 space is gone, and not a second before. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] IPv6 - anyone using it? With the recent announcement by ARIN to start pushing IPv6 uptake, and the run out date of v4 is as soon as 2010, I was wondering is anyone are here using v6 in some form or planning the switchover? Since it is much more than renumbering customers, the needed time for deploying it will be much longer, is your infrastructure ready for it? http://www.arin.net/announcements/20070521.html http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070521-arin-its-time-to- migrate-to-ipv6.html Have a great evening, Ryan -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPv6 - anyone using it?
http://he.net/about_ipv6.html http://us.ntt.net/products/ipv6/ There's a couple IPv6 providers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPv6 - anyone using it? Windows XP supports IPv6. There is a separate IPv6 Internet. You need to buy your IPv6 service from a different provider that support it. Once I get settled and can afford the separate IPv6 feed without an immediate return, I'll be getting it. Everything I have is Mikrotik and they should have IPv6 implemented at some point. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Bushard, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:59 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] IPv6 - anyone using it? I really dread IPv6.so much more complicated. I probably would run it, but from my understanding there is a ton of equipment on the internet backbone that won't route it. Not to mention how many SOHO routers and PC's are ready for it? Will your CPE support it? And the list goes on, I foresee a mad rush for upgrades and implementation the day v4 space is gone, and not a second before. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] IPv6 - anyone using it? With the recent announcement by ARIN to start pushing IPv6 uptake, and the run out date of v4 is as soon as 2010, I was wondering is anyone are here using v6 in some form or planning the switchover? Since it is much more than renumbering customers, the needed time for deploying it will be much longer, is your infrastructure ready for it? http://www.arin.net/announcements/20070521.html http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070521-arin-its-time-to- migrate-to-ipv6.html Have a great evening, Ryan -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Free Standing Towers
Folks, I'm looking for a good free-standing tower. I need to be able to choose between 150' and 190' and it needs to be able to handle your typical WISP needs. I already know about the Trylon SuperTitan and while they seem to serve the purpose, they are really hard to maneuver around on when you get to the top. What are you guys using for free-standing towers at these heights? Kelly Shaw Pure Internet -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPv6 - anyone using it?
Mike Hammett wrote: There is a separate IPv6 Internet. You need to buy your IPv6 service from a different provider that support it. If you can find one :( There's a few places (Hurricane Electric, SixXS, OCCAID) that are more or less involved in IPv6 stuff, but they generally only work by way of tunneling. There's also the issue of network gear that supports it. In the next few days, I'm deploying a brand new core router that we just paid about three large for (brand name intentionally left blank, but it's a big enough company that you've probably heard of 'em). As near as I can tell, it doesn't support IPv6 in any form or fashion. Once I get settled and can afford the separate IPv6 feed without an immediate return, I'll be getting it. Everything I have is Mikrotik and they should have IPv6 implemented at some point. For small-scale experiments and such, this should be nearly (or totally) free. I've had an IPv6 tunnel on my desktop for a couple years now. Never used it for anything besides looking at the dancing turtle, really, but it's there. If you don't feel like getting a direct IPv6 allocation from ARIN (assuming you already get direct IPv4 allocations from them), SixXS can set you up with a small chunk of addresses, more than enough to play around with, and unless it's changed very recently they'll do this for free. As an aside: http://www.ipv6experiment.com/ -- THIS is the way to promote IPv6 ;) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPv6 - anyone using it?
I definitely would recommend learning it or at least getting familiar with it. There is not enough on it yet to transition your entire network over to it, but, it is definitely doable for transit within your network and replacement for private IPs for your customers. Not that any of these are marketable--yet. However, three or four years down the line, I think that you'll start seeing this as creeping into transit connections as well as requested by some business customers; for the latter, being able to say yeah, we've been doing that for 4 years instead of I think I can learn that by the time your circuit is provisioned is a good thing :) David, would you mind contacting me off-list (or on) with the name/model of the router that doesn't support IPv6? I work as a consultant for a company that fits the description, so I'm kinda curious--most of the stuff out there can support IPv6 (well, in the core router category). As mentioned, there are a number of free tunnel connections; these are useful for playing, although keep in mind that you don't own the space or the connection--don't deploy anything serious on it. (Although, as a side note, usually the small chunk of addresses, at least through HE.net, is 18,446,774,073,709,551,616 IP addresses (/64). ie 1.84x10^19 !) You can also get a block for free from ARIN if you pay your dues regularly; I believe that renewal is also free if you have an IPV4 block through them. BTW, if you don't have your own ARIN block, you definitely should strongly consider getting one. $2000-4000 / year is a small price to pay for having provider independent IP space and the freedom to switch carriers at will without having to worry about transitioning. -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies On 5/25/07, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Hammett wrote: There is a separate IPv6 Internet. You need to buy your IPv6 service from a different provider that support it. If you can find one :( There's a few places (Hurricane Electric, SixXS, OCCAID) that are more or less involved in IPv6 stuff, but they generally only work by way of tunneling. There's also the issue of network gear that supports it. In the next few days, I'm deploying a brand new core router that we just paid about three large for (brand name intentionally left blank, but it's a big enough company that you've probably heard of 'em). As near as I can tell, it doesn't support IPv6 in any form or fashion. Once I get settled and can afford the separate IPv6 feed without an immediate return, I'll be getting it. Everything I have is Mikrotik and they should have IPv6 implemented at some point. For small-scale experiments and such, this should be nearly (or totally) free. I've had an IPv6 tunnel on my desktop for a couple years now. Never used it for anything besides looking at the dancing turtle, really, but it's there. If you don't feel like getting a direct IPv6 allocation from ARIN (assuming you already get direct IPv4 allocations from them), SixXS can set you up with a small chunk of addresses, more than enough to play around with, and unless it's changed very recently they'll do this for free. As an aside: http://www.ipv6experiment.com/ -- THIS is the way to promote IPv6 ;) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Standing Towers
Check into Sabre site solutions. They have several pre-engineered towers that are comparable to the SuperTitan series in price but seem to be better quality. I have never seen one in person however. http://www.sabrecom.com/tower_components_catalog.aspx Patrick Kelly Shaw wrote: Folks, I'm looking for a good free-standing tower. I need to be able to choose between 150' and 190' and it needs to be able to handle your typical WISP needs. I already know about the Trylon SuperTitan and while they seem to serve the purpose, they are really hard to maneuver around on when you get to the top. What are you guys using for free-standing towers at these heights? Kelly Shaw Pure Internet -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 700 Auction
In one crucial change, the FCC doubled the length of time winning bidders must hold their spectrum before selling it, pushing the exit horizon to 10 years, which is longer than the venture capitalists who finance small bidders like to hold their investments. It's about danged time that the FCC made rules changes that would run off the speculators! The spectrum should only be open to those that are GOING to use it, not try to just make a quick buck by turning it over. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:35 AM Subject: [WISPA] 700 Auction Small telecom bidders ask court to void FCC spectrum auction By Peg Brickley Last Update: 4:14 PM ET May 23, 2007 http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/small-telecom-bidders-ask-court/story.aspx?guid=%7B6F2B0C5B-209A-4DC3-87A3-CAB7A02B96B8%7D http://tinyurl.com/2kdvam Lawyers for small telecommunications bidders Wednesday asked a federal appeals court in Philadelphia to throw out a $13.75 billion auction of wireless spectrum on the grounds that last-minute changes made it unfair. Upsetting the August 2006 auction could turn the industry upside down, said William Lake, attorney for T-Mobile USA, a subsidiary of German telecommunications giant Deutsche Telekom AG , and for a trade association of wireless carriers, Washington, D.C.-based CTIA-The Wireless Association. T-Mobile was the largest winner at the big auction under attack, claiming $4.2 billion worth of the spectrum in a sale of public airwaves long reserved for government and official uses. The Third Circuit Court of Appeals must decide whether to overturn the auction, and what to do about Federal Communications Commission rule changes that kicked in just before the big sale. The decision could also have an impact on the next big FCC auction, expected by January 2008, of 700 megahertz band spectrum that is expected to fetch up to $15 billion. The FCC defended its auction rule changes as the fair product of a fair process. If the appeals court voids the rules on technical grounds, the FCC will likely enact substantially the same rules again, said Joseph Palmore, deputy general counsel for the FCC. Dennis Corbett, lawyer for Council Tree Communications Inc. and two other auction challengers, said the FCC rule changes, almost on the eve of the auction, put a damper on his clients' chances in the bidding. In one crucial change, the FCC doubled the length of time winning bidders must hold their spectrum before selling it, pushing the exit horizon to 10 years, which is longer than the venture capitalists who finance small bidders like to hold their investments. Corbett said the changes frightened off private equity investors. What the agency did here, instead of being proactive and helping small businesses, it dropped those pianos on their heads, Corbett said. With no one to stake them to a seat at the auction table, small bidders can't compete with telecommunications giants hungry for spectrum, Corbett said. When you go out to find capital, which is the hardest thing for a small business, the investors need to know the rules of the road, Corbett said. He said the FCC acted with illegal haste last year, and that the auction should be unwound. Judges on the three-member panel that will decide whether last year's auction results stand or fall expressed concern about creating a major disturbance in the telecommunications industry. Nullifying the auction would be very disruptive, U.S. Court of Appeals Judge Michael A. Chagares said. However, Chagares suggested, vacating the FCC rule changes that small bidders blamed for unfairness, a fix for future auctions, might be a less drastic remedy. Corbett, lawyer for the small bidders, said the court should get rid of the new FCC rules in time for the next spectrum auction even if the court decides there's nothing to be done about last year's auction. The 700 megahertz is a huge auction of beachfront spectrum, he said. These rules should not infect yet another auction. They're bad rules. Get rid of them. FCC attorney Palmore, however, warned that throwing out the rules would make big trouble. It would throw into question and create incredible uncertainty for future auctions, he said. The appeals court did not say when it will issue a decision. The court could uphold the rules and last year's auction, vacate either the rules or the auction, or do nothing, bowing to an FCC argument the appeal didn't come in time. In addition to Council Tree Communications, Bethel Native Corp. and the Minority Media and Telecommunications Council are challenging the FCC. As designated entities under rules designed to make sure deep-pocketed telecommunications enterprises don't
Re: [WISPA] Best night cameras
Thanks Any experience with nite time captures? Costs? Jonathan Schmidt wrote: George, I use these and find them exceptional. They see in brilliant color in the day (up to 5 megapixels) and have night mode that's BW but equal in resolution and will see a lot more than you can but isn't for total darkness. It can read a plate at 100 feet, I'd guess, in moonlight, and still catch a wide image (you can digitally zoom up...not bad when you start with 5 megapixels). If you want, I can send you an image or try their site: http://www.iqeye.com/productlist.html It is an IP camera that has Web access, very rich triggering options including selected parts of the image for e-mail or FTP. It doesn't have an AP built in, however, so you need PoE or other power. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 12:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Best night cameras I need cameras that will take pictures in the night. Something that is reasonable in price and maybe can catch a license plate number. It does not have to be an ip camera. Does anyone have experience in this? -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Standing Towers
ANWireless towers offer the best WISP solutions out there . www.anwireless.com you cannot beat their pricing / ease of installation / wind loading capabilities for the $$ JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Standing Towers Check into Sabre site solutions. They have several pre-engineered towers that are comparable to the SuperTitan series in price but seem to be better quality. I have never seen one in person however. http://www.sabrecom.com/tower_components_catalog.aspx Patrick Kelly Shaw wrote: Folks, I'm looking for a good free-standing tower. I need to be able to choose between 150' and 190' and it needs to be able to handle your typical WISP needs. I already know about the Trylon SuperTitan and while they seem to serve the purpose, they are really hard to maneuver around on when you get to the top. What are you guys using for free-standing towers at these heights? Kelly Shaw Pure Internet -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] strange connectivity issues
I've had some very strange things happen of late. Wed. I hooked up a new customer. Couldn't get their system to work but my laptop did. I told them to call MacAfee and see if they could figure out what was blocking things. They ended up taking the computer to a friend's house, hooking it up to a dsl connection via a router and it worked just fine. Why would it not work via static ip but would via dhcp? Yesterday I did a Vista setup. It would connect to the wireless router just fine but would not get to the internet. I finally went into IE options and set all of them back to the defaults. What BS would have been in IE that would have told it to not use the established network connection? There were no proxy's set up either. Worked with the same router and wildblue sat. connection. I changed the wireless network name and local ip addy. Nothing else changed. It still says that the DNS suffix is wildblue.net. I can't find that anywhere in the machine. Oh yeah, the machine had both IE and firefox, neither worked. Vista is a disaster. Crappy interface. Hides everything in strange places and in non intuitive fashion. Today I get an email from a customer that can email but IE won't work. This one's dialup. Anyone else seeing strange stuff like this? Is there some bizarre windows update or virus program that's messing things up? Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] strange connectivity issues
Marlon, I fixed my brother's XP two weeks ago with the same strange e-mail-but-no-IE condition. I could ping by NAME or IP ADDRESS just fine. The IE wouldn't work by NAME or IP ADDRESS but e-mail would. In fact, strangely, when entering a server's numeric IP address in the address bar, it wouldn't find it and re-wrote the address bar to http:///;, yes triple slashes and blank. I've seen that before but can't for the life of me recall what it was. Maybe that's benign. I downloaded FIREFOX and it failed similarly. I uninstalled IE7 and got back to IE6 but still the same. I checked his XP SP2 firewall and it was disabled...I didn't leave it that way. HI checked the HOSTS file and it wasn't corrupted. I tried rebooting with EVERYTHING turned off in MSCONFIG. Still the same. I brought up WORD and I tried entering www.cnn.com into the WORD OPEN field and WORD managed to render it to a point, so the internal browsing engine was working. Then a window popped up Your Spyware Doctor requires an update, do you want to do that now?...and I asked my brother where did you get this? and he couldn't recall. That scared me. I uninstalled it and everything I didn't know. Of course, I couldn't GOOGLE to see if it was OK...it could have been a legitimate program or a fake. Then I used the XP CD to do a system recovery and, after 1/2 hour, it was back with applications still installed and the desktop as it was...and, no problems. I turned on the XP firewall, downloaded DEFENDER (again) and installed it. So far, so good and my brother insists it's 10X faster than before it broke. What was it? I don't know. It was on a fast, new HP w/XP Media Center only a few months old. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 1:35 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] strange connectivity issues I've had some very strange things happen of late. Wed. I hooked up a new customer. Couldn't get their system to work but my laptop did. I told them to call MacAfee and see if they could figure out what was blocking things. They ended up taking the computer to a friend's house, hooking it up to a dsl connection via a router and it worked just fine. Why would it not work via static ip but would via dhcp? Yesterday I did a Vista setup. It would connect to the wireless router just fine but would not get to the internet. I finally went into IE options and set all of them back to the defaults. What BS would have been in IE that would have told it to not use the established network connection? There were no proxy's set up either. Worked with the same router and wildblue sat. connection. I changed the wireless network name and local ip addy. Nothing else changed. It still says that the DNS suffix is wildblue.net. I can't find that anywhere in the machine. Oh yeah, the machine had both IE and firefox, neither worked. Vista is a disaster. Crappy interface. Hides everything in strange places and in non intuitive fashion. Today I get an email from a customer that can email but IE won't work. This one's dialup. Anyone else seeing strange stuff like this? Is there some bizarre windows update or virus program that's messing things up? Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] strange connectivity issues
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Anyone else seeing strange stuff like this? Is there some bizarre windows update or virus program that's messing things up? Yeah, it's called Microsoft Windows. Serious answer: If there were anything that big going on, it'd probably be on CNN and people would be crying about the end of the world or something. Honestly, sounds like just a rash of several unrelated issues. I won't dispute that Vista is weird and counter-intuitive, but thus far the networking stack doesn't seem to be any more broken than XP's ever was. (I'm still a bit cranky about the loss of gaming performance and such, but that's not a WISPA issue really.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] strange connectivity issues
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Vista is a disaster. Crappy interface. Hides everything in strange places and in non intuitive fashion. I seen Vista for the first time a couple weeks ago. I felt stupid not being able to navigate so easily in front of the customer. Now I need to upgrade to Vista on my personal machines so that I can acquainted. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] strange connectivity issues
In several of my consulting customers, we use several differant types of anti-virus/anti-spyware proxy servers etc. Trend Micro is the most common, but their hardware box and their software proxy server. one company, a just bit under 200 users, after putting in Trend Micro's Interscan Web Security Suite and forcing everyone to run though the proxy server, we have had 0 issues of this! Slow browsing, unkonwn applications, things like that, SPYWARE, etc its all a pain in the ass! Weird stuff like, I can't browse, but can e-mail, etc, all can be attribuited to spyware apps, etc. .. lol Enjoy! Dennis On 5/25/07, Jonathan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, I fixed my brother's XP two weeks ago with the same strange e-mail-but-no-IE condition. I could ping by NAME or IP ADDRESS just fine. The IE wouldn't work by NAME or IP ADDRESS but e-mail would. In fact, strangely, when entering a server's numeric IP address in the address bar, it wouldn't find it and re-wrote the address bar to http:///;, yes triple slashes and blank. I've seen that before but can't for the life of me recall what it was. Maybe that's benign. I downloaded FIREFOX and it failed similarly. I uninstalled IE7 and got back to IE6 but still the same. I checked his XP SP2 firewall and it was disabled...I didn't leave it that way. HI checked the HOSTS file and it wasn't corrupted. I tried rebooting with EVERYTHING turned off in MSCONFIG. Still the same. I brought up WORD and I tried entering www.cnn.com into the WORD OPEN field and WORD managed to render it to a point, so the internal browsing engine was working. Then a window popped up Your Spyware Doctor requires an update, do you want to do that now?...and I asked my brother where did you get this? and he couldn't recall. That scared me. I uninstalled it and everything I didn't know. Of course, I couldn't GOOGLE to see if it was OK...it could have been a legitimate program or a fake. Then I used the XP CD to do a system recovery and, after 1/2 hour, it was back with applications still installed and the desktop as it was...and, no problems. I turned on the XP firewall, downloaded DEFENDER (again) and installed it. So far, so good and my brother insists it's 10X faster than before it broke. What was it? I don't know. It was on a fast, new HP w/XP Media Center only a few months old. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 1:35 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] strange connectivity issues I've had some very strange things happen of late. Wed. I hooked up a new customer. Couldn't get their system to work but my laptop did. I told them to call MacAfee and see if they could figure out what was blocking things. They ended up taking the computer to a friend's house, hooking it up to a dsl connection via a router and it worked just fine. Why would it not work via static ip but would via dhcp? Yesterday I did a Vista setup. It would connect to the wireless router just fine but would not get to the internet. I finally went into IE options and set all of them back to the defaults. What BS would have been in IE that would have told it to not use the established network connection? There were no proxy's set up either. Worked with the same router and wildblue sat. connection. I changed the wireless network name and local ip addy. Nothing else changed. It still says that the DNS suffix is wildblue.net . I can't find that anywhere in the machine. Oh yeah, the machine had both IE and firefox, neither worked. Vista is a disaster. Crappy interface. Hides everything in strange places and in non intuitive fashion. Today I get an email from a customer that can email but IE won't work. This one's dialup. Anyone else seeing strange stuff like this? Is there some bizarre windows update or virus program that's messing things up? Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified Consultant www.mikrotikconsulting.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] strange connectivity issues
Yes, I agree. And, I have had very good luck with Trend Micro's on-line, free virus removal tool...as long as the browser works at all. I have fixed probably 20 PCs with this: http://housecall.trendmicro.com and use the free, on-line virus removal. It is the real thing except it loads via ActiveX but uses their up-to-date virus list. Once you've cleaned with that you can install and run the permanent anti-virus and anti-spyware of your choice. Their installed anti-virus product darned good. So is Free AGV: http://free.grisoft.com . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 2:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] strange connectivity issues In several of my consulting customers, we use several differant types of anti-virus/anti-spyware proxy servers etc. Trend Micro is the most common, but their hardware box and their software proxy server. one company, a just bit under 200 users, after putting in Trend Micro's Interscan Web Security Suite and forcing everyone to run though the proxy server, we have had 0 issues of this! Slow browsing, unkonwn applications, things like that, SPYWARE, etc its all a pain in the ass! Weird stuff like, I can't browse, but can e-mail, etc, all can be attribuited to spyware apps, etc. .. lol Enjoy! Dennis On 5/25/07, Jonathan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, I fixed my brother's XP two weeks ago with the same strange e-mail-but-no-IE condition. I could ping by NAME or IP ADDRESS just fine. The IE wouldn't work by NAME or IP ADDRESS but e-mail would. In fact, strangely, when entering a server's numeric IP address in the address bar, it wouldn't find it and re-wrote the address bar to http:///;, yes triple slashes and blank. I've seen that before but can't for the life of me recall what it was. Maybe that's benign. I downloaded FIREFOX and it failed similarly. I uninstalled IE7 and got back to IE6 but still the same. I checked his XP SP2 firewall and it was disabled...I didn't leave it that way. HI checked the HOSTS file and it wasn't corrupted. I tried rebooting with EVERYTHING turned off in MSCONFIG. Still the same. I brought up WORD and I tried entering www.cnn.com into the WORD OPEN field and WORD managed to render it to a point, so the internal browsing engine was working. Then a window popped up Your Spyware Doctor requires an update, do you want to do that now?...and I asked my brother where did you get this? and he couldn't recall. That scared me. I uninstalled it and everything I didn't know. Of course, I couldn't GOOGLE to see if it was OK...it could have been a legitimate program or a fake. Then I used the XP CD to do a system recovery and, after 1/2 hour, it was back with applications still installed and the desktop as it was...and, no problems. I turned on the XP firewall, downloaded DEFENDER (again) and installed it. So far, so good and my brother insists it's 10X faster than before it broke. What was it? I don't know. It was on a fast, new HP w/XP Media Center only a few months old. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 1:35 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] strange connectivity issues I've had some very strange things happen of late. Wed. I hooked up a new customer. Couldn't get their system to work but my laptop did. I told them to call MacAfee and see if they could figure out what was blocking things. They ended up taking the computer to a friend's house, hooking it up to a dsl connection via a router and it worked just fine. Why would it not work via static ip but would via dhcp? Yesterday I did a Vista setup. It would connect to the wireless router just fine but would not get to the internet. I finally went into IE options and set all of them back to the defaults. What BS would have been in IE that would have told it to not use the established network connection? There were no proxy's set up either. Worked with the same router and wildblue sat. connection. I changed the wireless network name and local ip addy. Nothing else changed. It still says that the DNS suffix is wildblue.net . I can't find that anywhere in the machine. Oh yeah, the machine had both IE and firefox, neither worked. Vista is a disaster. Crappy interface. Hides everything in strange places and in non intuitive fashion. Today I get an email from a customer that can email but IE won't work. This one's dialup. Anyone else seeing strange stuff like this? Is there some bizarre windows update or virus program that's messing things up? Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)
RE: [WISPA] strange connectivity issues
Marlon, Sound like you covered all your bases here but here is my .02 worth. I have had issues like this in the past and it has always been related to one of three things. 1. If it is a new hookup from dialup or SAT usually it is some sort of a proxy issue, either proxy is enabled in internet explorer settings or there is a third party app installed for the dialup/sat. I had to reformat a PC one time because I couldn't get a clean uninstall of Directway's proxy software. 2. Mcaffee or Norton Virus/internet security is installed tyring to make sure that it stays installed on the PC and kept up to date. I have seen both programs totally hose a PC with the same issues you are describing. One of the first things I do on a PC with either of these to programs is uninstall it if it will let you and install AVG Antivirus and AVG anitspyware or MS defender. 3. There is a virus and or spyware on the PC. Thanks, Chadd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 1:35 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] strange connectivity issues I've had some very strange things happen of late. Wed. I hooked up a new customer. Couldn't get their system to work but my laptop did. I told them to call MacAfee and see if they could figure out what was blocking things. They ended up taking the computer to a friend's house, hooking it up to a dsl connection via a router and it worked just fine. Why would it not work via static ip but would via dhcp? Yesterday I did a Vista setup. It would connect to the wireless router just fine but would not get to the internet. I finally went into IE options and set all of them back to the defaults. What BS would have been in IE that would have told it to not use the established network connection? There were no proxy's set up either. Worked with the same router and wildblue sat. connection. I changed the wireless network name and local ip addy. Nothing else changed. It still says that the DNS suffix is wildblue.net. I can't find that anywhere in the machine. Oh yeah, the machine had both IE and firefox, neither worked. Vista is a disaster. Crappy interface. Hides everything in strange places and in non intuitive fashion. Today I get an email from a customer that can email but IE won't work. This one's dialup. Anyone else seeing strange stuff like this? Is there some bizarre windows update or virus program that's messing things up? Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 4:01 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] strange connectivity issues
Often, when you have issues like this, a good practice is to reset TCP/IP and Winsock. This can especially be true on machines that have been mucked up with Norton Internet (in)Security, which has an annoying habit of leaving its firewall settings intact after uninstallation on at least some versions. This fixes a lot of things at once and so is often a good quick fix. The instructions below walk through the process... Also, check out netstat (open command prompt, do netstat -ano (the n disables DNS and the o shows the PID). This can give you an idea as to what sort of connections the computer is making and attempting to make. It also often reveals viruses, as anything that is trying to spam out or spread itself out through the network will (generally) show up in here (although, viruses sometimes do hide themselves). -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies. TCP/IP and Winsock Reset Reset the Winsock and TCP/IP stack... Reset TCP/IP Command usage netsh int ip reset [log_file_name] To run the command successfully, you must specify a file name for the log where actions that are taken by netsh will be recorded. For example, at a command prompt, type either of the samples that are listed in the Command samples section. The TCP/IP stack will then be reset on a system, and the actions that were taken will be recorded in the log file, Resetlog.txt. The first sample creates the log file in the current directory, while the second sample creates a path where the log will reside. In either case, where the specified log file already exists, the new log will be appended to the end of the existing file. Command samples netsh int ip reset resetlog.txt netsh int ip reset c:\resetlog.txt Reset Winsock 1. Click Start, and then click Run. 2. In the Open box, type regedit, and then click OK. 3. Locate the following registry subkeys: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Winsock HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Winsock2 4. Right-click each key, and then click Delete. 5. Click Yes to confirm the deletion. Note Restart the computer after you delete the Winsock keys. This action creates new shell entries for those two registry subkeys. If you do not restart the computer after you delete the Winsock keys, the next step does not work correctly. When you restart the computer, you may see dialog boxes that mention TCP/IP problems and various event log messages that relate to services that you have installed. Ignore these messages. To reinstall TCP/IP, follow these steps: 1. Right-click the network connection, and then click Properties. 2. Click Install, click Protocol, and then click Add. 3. Click Have Disk 4. Type C:\Windows\inf, and then click OK. 5. In the list of available protocols, click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP), and then click OK. 6. Restart the computer. - On 5/25/07, Chadd Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, Sound like you covered all your bases here but here is my .02 worth. I have had issues like this in the past and it has always been related to one of three things. 1. If it is a new hookup from dialup or SAT usually it is some sort of a proxy issue, either proxy is enabled in internet explorer settings or there is a third party app installed for the dialup/sat. I had to reformat a PC one time because I couldn't get a clean uninstall of Directway's proxy software. 2. Mcaffee or Norton Virus/internet security is installed tyring to make sure that it stays installed on the PC and kept up to date. I have seen both programs totally hose a PC with the same issues you are describing. One of the first things I do on a PC with either of these to programs is uninstall it if it will let you and install AVG Antivirus and AVG anitspyware or MS defender. 3. There is a virus and or spyware on the PC. Thanks, Chadd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 1:35 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] strange connectivity issues I've had some very strange things happen of late. Wed. I hooked up a new customer. Couldn't get their system to work but my laptop did. I told them to call MacAfee and see if they could figure out what was blocking things. They ended up taking the computer to a friend's house, hooking it up to a dsl connection via a router and it worked just fine. Why would it not work via static ip but would via dhcp? Yesterday I did a Vista setup. It would connect to the wireless router just fine but would not get to the internet. I finally went into IE options and set all of them back to the defaults. What BS would have been in IE that would have told it to not use the established network connection? There were no proxy's set up either. Worked with the same router and wildblue sat. connection. I changed the wireless network name and local
[WISPA] Customer Needs Service Near Austin, Texas (Paige,TX)
Billy Schwartz 504 B Old Pin Oak Road Paige, Texas 78659 Can anyone service this address ? If you can - contact me offlist. Regards, JohnnyO -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Interesting RUS info
Look and see who is moving into your community: http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/SearchTabs.aspx The interesting text is located here: http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband-search.htm Special Note to Potential Loan Applicants: Potential applicants should note that Rural Development cannot provide funding to another entity for communities associated with approved applications and that communities associated with pending applications are restricted until a lending decision is reached on the pending application. In addition, Rural Development cannot provide funding to an additional entity for towns where the Agency has an active Telecom borrower providing broadband service. For active Telecom borrowers see: http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/index.htm . This locks me out of getting funding from RUS for towns that have already been claimed by RUS loan applicants.. So much for competition?! Does this lock you out of competition as well? ryan -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
