[WISPA] Trango Site

2007-10-23 Thread Larry A Weidig
Are others having problems with Trango's web site/phones.  We
have not been able to get to their site the last couple of days.  Tried
calling to see what is up and ended up in voice mail for the general
mailbox.

* Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
* Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
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RE: [WISPA] Trango Site

2007-10-23 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Perhaps one of the towers run by skyriver.net is down due to the fires? I
called them and that is the case. Skyriver is closed due to the fires and
the towers are down.

Trango radios have some great specs, but I don't think fireproof is one of
them! :) Hopefully everyone will cut them some slack.

ryan

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It is down - without a doubt

Mac

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   Are others having problems with Trango's web site/phones.  We
 have not been able to get to their site the last couple of days.  Tried
 calling to see what is up and ended up in voice mail for the general
 mailbox.
 
 * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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 * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
 * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free
 
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Re: [WISPA] Trango Site

2007-10-23 Thread Jack Unger
I believe they are in the San Diego area which is heavily impacted by 
the Southern California wildland fires. They may have a) evacuated, b) 
lost power, or c) lost Internet access. I'm in the LA area and the 
wireless ISP serving me lost power at their access point location (above 
Topanga and near Malibu) and was off the air from about 4 PM yesterday 
until 1 AM this morning  They said backup generators were not permitted 
on the mountaintop so they were saving their last 3-4 hours of battery 
backup to use this morning for the first  few hours of the business day. 
I think commercial power has now been restored to the mountaintop 
because Internet connectivity has now been up since 1 AM.


Anyway, it would be good to cut Trango some slack as circumstances may 
be beyond their control.


jack


Larry A Weidig wrote:

Are others having problems with Trango's web site/phones.  We
have not been able to get to their site the last couple of days.  Tried
calling to see what is up and ended up in voice mail for the general
mailbox.

* Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
* Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
* (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
* (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free   




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[WISPA] Orthogon Repair

2007-10-23 Thread Jory Privett
Is there anyplace out there that will repair an Orthogon Gemi Lite that got 
some water in it?


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Latency, capacity, speed, and Webster's (was: Re: [WISPA] Advertising)

2007-10-23 Thread David E. Smith

Tom DeReggi wrote:

First off, in true technical theory, it is my opinion, that Latency 
=speed, Transfer rate = capacity. Latency is the speed in which one 
packet goes from point A to Point B. Transfer rate is the quantity of 
packets that can be transfered within a specific time.  Therefore the 
Term  Speed is incorrectly used in marketing.


While your usage is correct from the perspective of physics, the 
customer's perception of speed is the relevant one. I suspect most 
customers would say a service with 10Mbps and 30ms latency to a major 
backbone is faster than one with 1Mbps but 5ms latency to that same 
backbone.


(I'm assuming some value of normal here. Satellite-grade latency of, 
say, 2000ms, obviously skews customer perceptions. I don't know where 
I'd want to put the cutoff, but the exact numbers aren't as important here.)


As an aside, most of what I'm doing is purely speculatory from here on 
in. Anyone know whether any serious academic research has been done on 
this point?


Anyway, I don't want this to turn into anything related to semantics. 
Let's get back to the good stuff :)




MP4 Streaming Video-- only needs 400kbps.
VOIP --- only need MAX of 70kbps.
Web Browsing, VERY LITTLE, as most images are web optimized.


Haven't been to YouTube lately, I take it? :)

Between high-bandwidth services like that (and DailyMotion and Google 
Video and all the other folks doing the same sort of thing), and the 
dreaded peer-to-peer, and teleconferencing and maybe even telemedicine, 
and ...


My point is that while your numbers above may be sufficient for very 
casual users, today, those numbers won't hold much longer. I'm not sure 
they even hold today, honestly. Many residential customers want and 
expect more bulk bandwidth.


I just looked at amazon.com's front page (to borrow one of your 
examples), and there's about sixty distinct images, plus the page's 
HTML, and other stuff like JavaScript and CSS imports. If you just 
cleared out your browser and DNS cache, and had to load that page 
completely from scratch, it's likely to take ten to fifteen seconds to load.


(www.websiteoptimization.com offers a testing tool for that, but they're 
throwing in ridiculous latency numbers of 200ms per file, cumulative, 
and apparently never have heard of HTTP pipelining. I don't think I 
would take their numbers too seriously, but it's a good way to get basic 
how big is a page data to play with.)


The simple amount of bulk data there - amazon's home page including all 
those graphics adds up to around 300k, though it changes as the whole 
page is dynamic - is the key in this instance. Doesn't matter if you're 
plugged straight into amazon.com with a crossover cable in this 
instance; the perception of slowness comes not from the latency but from 
the volume of data.


eBay's home page isn't much better, and CNN.com's front page, including 
all scripts and images, is about 250 files and nearly 800K. (For 
comparison, on a classic 56k dialup, that's probably about three minutes 
just waiting for the front page to load.)



Sure if you are a IT guy -constantly downloading software drivers, or a 
Designer or Architec -constantly transfering CAD/Layout files, sure 
Transfer Rate is going to be important to you.


In all fairness, I should disclose my bias, it's been argued I'm an IT 
guy. :)



PS. I recognize next generation applications such as HD TV, can easilly 
justify GB transfer rates to the home. But we aren't in that generation 
today.


I think that generation is much, much closer than you think.

David Smith
MVN.net



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RE: [WISPA] Trango Site

2007-10-23 Thread Larry A Weidig
More than willing to cut them some slack, just curious.  Thanks
for the updates from everybody.  Hope that everything can get under
control out there and you guys are minimally affected.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Site

I believe they are in the San Diego area which is heavily impacted by 
the Southern California wildland fires. They may have a) evacuated, b) 
lost power, or c) lost Internet access. I'm in the LA area and the 
wireless ISP serving me lost power at their access point location (above

Topanga and near Malibu) and was off the air from about 4 PM yesterday 
until 1 AM this morning  They said backup generators were not permitted 
on the mountaintop so they were saving their last 3-4 hours of battery 
backup to use this morning for the first  few hours of the business day.

I think commercial power has now been restored to the mountaintop 
because Internet connectivity has now been up since 1 AM.

Anyway, it would be good to cut Trango some slack as circumstances may 
be beyond their control.

jack


Larry A Weidig wrote:
   Are others having problems with Trango's web site/phones.  We
 have not been able to get to their site the last couple of days.
Tried
 calling to see what is up and ended up in voice mail for the general
 mailbox.

 * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
 * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
 * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free   





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Re: [WISPA] Trango Site

2007-10-23 Thread Jack Unger

WISPA just received the following note from Jeff Mabry at Trango:

I'd like to notify all of you that Trango Broadband Wireless is in the midst of the wild fires which are burning out of control in San Diego County.  Our facility is safe from harm, however, the national guard has shut down the roads into Poway and evacuated all the residents in the surrounding area, therefore our office is closed today.  We anticipate that the roads will be open tomorrow and business will return to normal. 




Larry A Weidig wrote:

More than willing to cut them some slack, just curious.  Thanks
for the updates from everybody.  Hope that everything can get under
control out there and you guys are minimally affected.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Site

I believe they are in the San Diego area which is heavily impacted by 
the Southern California wildland fires. They may have a) evacuated, b) 
lost power, or c) lost Internet access. I'm in the LA area and the 
wireless ISP serving me lost power at their access point location (above


Topanga and near Malibu) and was off the air from about 4 PM yesterday 
until 1 AM this morning  They said backup generators were not permitted 
on the mountaintop so they were saving their last 3-4 hours of battery 
backup to use this morning for the first  few hours of the business day.


I think commercial power has now been restored to the mountaintop 
because Internet connectivity has now been up since 1 AM.


Anyway, it would be good to cut Trango some slack as circumstances may 
be beyond their control.


jack


Larry A Weidig wrote:
  

Are others having problems with Trango's web site/phones.  We
have not been able to get to their site the last couple of days.


Tried
  

calling to see what is up and ended up in voice mail for the general
mailbox.

* Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
* Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
* (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
* (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free   







  

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[WISPA] Cisco Buys Navini for US$330m

2007-10-23 Thread Drew Lentz

*Cisco Announces Definitive Agreement to Acquire Navini Networks*

Extends the Cisco IP Next Generation Network Vision to Deliver Wireless 
Broadband Services and Increase Internet Access in Emerging Markets

October 23, 2007: 08:00 AM EST

Cisco® (NASDAQ: CSCO) today announced a definitive agreement to purchase 
Richardson, TX-based Navini Networks, Inc. a leader in the Mobile WiMAX 
802.16e-2005 broadband wireless industry. Navini is a pioneer in the 
integration of Smart Beamforming technologies with Multi-Input 
Multi-Output (MIMO) antennas, a combination that improves the 
performance and range for WiMAX services and lowers the overall 
deployment and operational costs for service providers.


Navini's WiMAX products will extend Cisco's market-leading WiFi and 
WiFi-Mesh portfolios, allowing Cisco to uniquely address the rapidly 
growing markets for broadband wireless services.


The acquisition of Navini will help extend and enhance Cisco's IP Next 
Generation Network (IP NGN) vision to enable service providers to 
deliver any service to any device over any network -- a vision that 
Cisco calls the Connected Life. The addition of broadband wireless 
products based upon WiMAX will complement existing Cisco products and 
solutions to enable service providers to deliver premium end-to-end 
Connected Experiences and hasten their transition to becoming Experience 
Providers.


Cisco also expects that its broadband wireless solution portfolio, that 
now includes WiMAX products, will play a key role in Cisco's Country 
Transformation and Digital Inclusion initiatives to drive broadband 
penetration to consumers and business in emerging countries.


Emerging country service providers are in expansion mode, building out 
broadband wireless networks and are concerned about deployment costs and 
the availability of skilled resources, said Brett Galloway, vice 
president and general manager of the Wireless Networking Business Unit, 
Cisco. Around the world broadband wireless networks based upon WiMAX 
have the potential to add millions of new Internet users who cannot be 
reached economically using copper or fiber infrastructures. 
Additionally, WiMAX networks will help drive the transition to open 
IP-based broadband wireless architectures and accelerate the rollout of 
new applications and services.


Cisco selected Navini based on its industry-leading product portfolio, 
unmatched innovation and its real-world commercial deployments with 
service provider customers worldwide. Navini offers a leading portfolio 
of broadband wireless WiMAX solutions with comprehensive offerings 
including base stations, adaptive antenna arrays, management systems, 
and subscriber modems, which has been sold to more than 75 customers.


Under the terms of the agreement, Cisco will pay approximately $330 
million in cash and assumed options. The Navini acquisition is subject 
to various standard closing conditions and is expected to close in the 
second quarter of Cisco's 2008 fiscal year. Upon the close of the 
acquisition, Cisco plans to integrate Navini into its Wireless 
Networking Business Unit, under the Ethernet and Wireless Technology 
Group. This will be acquisition No. 124 for Cisco.


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[WISPA] Chip In

2007-10-23 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
www.chipin.com

A Interesting site.  The Flash graphic could be used on local WISP home
pages for community support, city pages, etc. especially on a city wide mesh
info page.  Rotary, Lions , and all the others. Would give visitors a since
of what the local community supports and what is important to them.
Church's, schools, boy scouts, you could go nuts finding marketing
applications with this.  $0.00 for non profits. 
I'm interested in your thoughts , possible applications, its value to you.
  

Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS, INC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Providing High Speed Broadband 
to Rural Central California



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[WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower accident

2007-10-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer


- Original Message - 
From: Pat Barthelow [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: David Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower accident




Sad News, sorry to hear of it.

Here is a local paper's story :

see: 
http://www.roswell-record.com/main.asp?Search=1ArticleID=17238SectionID=49SubSectionID=112S=1



All the Best, 73,
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:09:32 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower accident

Greg Molyneaux, N5CLM, died last Saturday after falling 90 feet from
a ham radio tower.


Anyone have details on this accident?


-Dave NN5K

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[WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower accident

2007-10-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer


- Original Message - 
From: Jeffrey Okamitsu [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: David Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:36 PM
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There's a posting on ARRL:

http://www.arrl.org/


--- David Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Greg Molyneaux, N5CLM, died last Saturday after
falling 90 feet from
a ham radio tower.

Anyone have details on this accident?

-Dave NN5K
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[WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower accident

2007-10-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Don't do stupid things people.  It'll get you dead.  Sooner or late, no one 
knows, but in the end, dead is dead.


marlon

- Original Message - 
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MOLYNEAUX, GREGORY DEAN -  Private family services will be held at a later
date for Gregory Dean Molyneaux. Greg passed away October 20, 2007 in
Roswell..



Gregory was born February 17, 1954 in Lubbock, Texas to Gordon Molyneaux 
and

Betty Compton.  His father preceded him in death.



Gregory married Trish Graves on June 3, 2006 in Chimmey Springs, New 
Mexico.

She survives him at the family home.



Gregory had a degree in Ag. Science.  He was a member of the Pecos Valley
Amateur Radio Club, F.I.S.T., ARRL Amateur Radio Club, Straight Key 
Century

Club, Roadrunner Amateur Radio Club, Public Service Net, Southwest Traffic
Net and also a  Mason and attended N.M.M.I.



He is survived by his wife Trish, his mother Betty Compton, daughters 
DeAnne

Molyneaux and Cassie Molyneaux of Roswell.  As well as four grandchildren:
Brooke Daubert, Brandon Russell, Journey McCaskey and Lila McCaskey.



Arrangements are under the direction of LaGrone Funeral Chapel.



- Original Message - 
From: David Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:09 PM
Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower accident



Greg Molyneaux, N5CLM, died last Saturday after falling 90 feet from
a ham radio tower.

Anyone have details on this accident?

-Dave NN5K
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