Re: [WISPA] OT: Asterisk
I'd recommend actually just getting an external SIP ATA for starters (basically the same idea, but in an external network device that you connect to over the LAN via SIP. Asterisk can be quite randomly finicky about hardware sometimes and there's a lot of motherboard chipsets out there that Asterisk does not deal well with. This usually manifests itself in terms of lockups when dealing with POTS or TDM cards... Also, POTS cards are pretty worthless to you if you aren't doing Asterisk; a SIP ATA can be useful elsewhere. On Nov 21, 2007 10:41 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Must be inflation :P Jonathan Schmidt wrote: Well, Adam, you weren't far off. The Buy it now eBay 1-FXO PCI card prices are around $20 and I've gotten auctions for just over $10 per card so I accepted your $8 as the price of winning a fortuitous auction. Reputable stores have it typically for a bit more, around $29. It's all in the noise. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Asterisk I'm sorry, I mixed up the terminology while typing. The $8 cards on eBay are regular POTS. Scottie Arnett wrote: Thanks Adam. FXO is foreign exchange, correct? At the office, I only have regular POTS lines. Will something work with them, or do I have to have FXO lines? At our POP, I have trunk side T1's that are being used for dial-up...but I am not wanting to hook to those yet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:06 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Asterisk There are several cards available on ebay for roughly $8 each. They will let you plug in multiple incoming lines (FXO signalling) to toy around with. Scottie Arnett wrote: Hey All, I am wanting to install Asterisk on a server to play around with. Can anyone tell me if there is a card that I can hook a couple of POTS lines into just to try it out? Or will I have to get a digital card? Not wanting to pour major into this until I have learned a little about it. TIA. Sincerely, Scottie Arnett President Info-ed, Inc. 615-699-3049 931-243-2101 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1143 - Release Date: 11/21/2007 10:01 AM --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Adam Kennedy Network Administrator Cyberlink International Phone: 888-293-3693 x4352 Fax: 574-855-5761 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT: Asterisk
Clint, Speaking of SIP gateways...do you have any that you recommend? I use the Grandstream GXW4104, and it is fairly cheap. I know there has to be a good one out there. I have issues with it hanging up calls randomly (especially if I am on hold), echo cancellation, and several other little quirks. Definitely not something that you would want to put in a non-technical environment, completely un-managed. With us, we are IT guys so it gets us by; but if I would deploy this to a customer...NO WAY!!! Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Ricker Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Asterisk I'd recommend actually just getting an external SIP ATA for starters (basically the same idea, but in an external network device that you connect to over the LAN via SIP. Asterisk can be quite randomly finicky about hardware sometimes and there's a lot of motherboard chipsets out there that Asterisk does not deal well with. This usually manifests itself in terms of lockups when dealing with POTS or TDM cards... Also, POTS cards are pretty worthless to you if you aren't doing Asterisk; a SIP ATA can be useful elsewhere. On Nov 21, 2007 10:41 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Must be inflation :P Jonathan Schmidt wrote: Well, Adam, you weren't far off. The Buy it now eBay 1-FXO PCI card prices are around $20 and I've gotten auctions for just over $10 per card so I accepted your $8 as the price of winning a fortuitous auction. Reputable stores have it typically for a bit more, around $29. It's all in the noise. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Asterisk I'm sorry, I mixed up the terminology while typing. The $8 cards on eBay are regular POTS. Scottie Arnett wrote: Thanks Adam. FXO is foreign exchange, correct? At the office, I only have regular POTS lines. Will something work with them, or do I have to have FXO lines? At our POP, I have trunk side T1's that are being used for dial-up...but I am not wanting to hook to those yet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:06 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Asterisk There are several cards available on ebay for roughly $8 each. They will let you plug in multiple incoming lines (FXO signalling) to toy around with. Scottie Arnett wrote: Hey All, I am wanting to install Asterisk on a server to play around with. Can anyone tell me if there is a card that I can hook a couple of POTS lines into just to try it out? Or will I have to get a digital card? Not wanting to pour major into this until I have learned a little about it. TIA. Sincerely, Scottie Arnett President Info-ed, Inc. 615-699-3049 931-243-2101 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1143 - Release Date: 11/21/2007 10:01 AM --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Adam Kennedy Network Administrator Cyberlink International Phone: 888-293-3693 x4352 Fax: 574-855-5761 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Non-paying Subs
With a system that lets them do this anonymously, without the embarrassment of a phone call or office visit, it should get cleaned up even quicker. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Non-paying Subs I have a web server that is set up on an internal IP address which has only one page which states that there is a problem with the billing on the account. The web server is set to give that page as the 404 (page not found) page. On my core router which is a mikrotik I have the following logic: If traffic is from a restricted IP and it is DNS then allow it If traffic is from a restricted IP and it is web traffic send it to captive web server. If traffic is from a restricted IP and not matching the above reject it. If you want the actual Mikrotik rules I'd be happy to send them along. This can also be done with iptables if you have a linux box acting as a router between your customers and the world. I'm sure most any stateful firewall/router will be able to do this sort of redirect. We use to just turn people off and it would work, but once we added the There is a problem... page we got a lot more people getting their bill caught up faster. I don't know if it is because they weren't sure if there was a computer/network issue rather than a billing issue or if it was just because it was a constant explicit reminder every time they tried to use the computer. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless D. Ryan Spott wrote: Hey Sam, want to elaborate? How do you do this? Thanks! ryan -Original Message- From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: 11/23/07 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Non-paying Subs And if you have a way to send them to a captive page that says the account has been restricted due to billing issues we have found that the respond even quicker. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Mark Nash wrote: Hey everyone. I've recently cleaned up alot of billing/past due issues. My main comment here is that it's amazing how responsive people are when you turn their connection off due to nonpayment. They are generally not upset because they know they haven't been paying. Don't be afraid to get in the habit of checking your billing and turning people off for nonpayment. It's expected. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Vuze / Comcast / Peer to Peer / FCC
What is considered a large number of connections? How many connections is it safe to limit to, without compromising a user's typical usage. Would this be an effective way of determining when a class of plan is being abused, such as a business using a residential plan, or a small community WISP trying to use a single residential plan conneciton? Is it possible that we need to start charge for number of connections instead of just say the number of bytes transfered or speed? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vuze / Comcast / Peer to Peer / FCC Which is why I feel that trying to address the issue as a P2P issue is wrong, the issue is not what the traffic is, it is what the traffic is doing to your network. If you address that issue, then encryption is pointless. Limit large connection counts, implement burstable bandwidth, add a transfer cap. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless CHUCK PROFITO wrote: I agree, you are fairly well protected, Travis, but for how long. But more and more we are seeing encrypted P2P and encrypted Bit Torrent... This will soon be the norm across the world because so many like you and I and George, Comcast, etc ARE limiting it. We cannot keep trying to control the application, we have to control the packet ONLY, no matter who,what or where it goes to. That is our business, Open access via Packets and excellent customer Service... for a price that is. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.5/1085 - Release Date: 10/22/2007 10:35 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Non-paying Subs
In the glory days of dialup we had customers that this was the ONLY way for us to get them to come in and pay. Pretty funny the few times we did have problems we always had a good turn up on customers that was paying their bills (same crowed that normally would only come in and pay once they got shutoff) many time no matter if it just been a week or two since they paid. They just gotten so much into the habit not to pay on time so when they couldn't access the internet they knew it was time to pay. We shut them off day after their due date. Occasionally we had a person that complained loudly because they had gotten shutoff especially if they normally paid on time. But we generally played along that we where sorry but it's an automated system and if we do not have their payment on the next business day after due date the system automatically shut unpaid accounts. Usually put the fight out of them. / Eje -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Non-paying Subs Hey everyone. I've recently cleaned up alot of billing/past due issues. My main comment here is that it's amazing how responsive people are when you turn their connection off due to nonpayment. They are generally not upset because they know they haven't been paying. Don't be afraid to get in the habit of checking your billing and turning people off for nonpayment. It's expected. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
