[WISPA] Femtocells
femtocells This is a great innovation that can help wisps gain market share. With these femtocells, the cell phone works in the house so the consumer doesn't need to have an extra land line. The customer is probably paying 80.00 or so for their dsl - telephone line. No land line needed for us wisps, the customer's 80.00 telco package is now in play. Maybe they want to trade it in for a faster and probably lesser expensive internet connection. It's a good opportunity for us, or the cable company. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/wireless_show_femtocells;_ylt=ArOpXSwLh8fh4JpnL.VHQpsjtBAF Verizon Wireless is joining Sprint Nextel Corp. in jumping on the latest craze in the wireless world: little boxes called femtocells that boost cell-phone coverage in subscribers' homes. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Femtocells
Hmm I see better opportunity going to the Cellco directly and offer them the service, so that they do a bundle to the end user... Internet - Femtocell And you make and arrangement with the cellco to deliver the traffic directly to them instead of going to the internet...Saving them some $$ On Internet Bandwidth and also providing a lower latency link to them!!! ... maybe this is the next step beyond voip... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Femtocells femtocells This is a great innovation that can help wisps gain market share. With these femtocells, the cell phone works in the house so the consumer doesn't need to have an extra land line. The customer is probably paying 80.00 or so for their dsl - telephone line. No land line needed for us wisps, the customer's 80.00 telco package is now in play. Maybe they want to trade it in for a faster and probably lesser expensive internet connection. It's a good opportunity for us, or the cable company. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/wireless_show_femtocells;_ylt=ArOpXSwLh8fh4Jp nL.VHQpsjtBAF Verizon Wireless is joining Sprint Nextel Corp. in jumping on the latest craze in the wireless world: little boxes called femtocells that boost cell-phone coverage in subscribers' homes. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Comcast will also be offering up to 50 Mbps
I should have prefaced that with the word some. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast will also be offering up to 50 Mbps CableOne in my area does NOT offer service to me. I called and asked... they specifically said not to you. Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: Cable companies already offer BGP fiber connections to anyone (including other operators). Comcast and Charter are two that I know off the top of my head that do. Comcast installs fiber to your prem and is $1000 for 5 megs, up to a full GigE. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast will also be offering up to 50 Mbps Oh boy are they digging themselves a big hole! All of the money is in the TV side of things and they are making it easier for people to watch TV via the web instead of via the cable co. On top of that they are talking about chewing up 4 TV channels PER CUSTOMER Wowsers. Not per custommer rather for the entire node. Currently one channel is shared among many. In future 4 will be shared among many. It's going to be amazing to watch where all of this is going to end up. This is actually great news for the smaller wisps out there. $200 50 meg connections. Very nice. I'd drop my $1000 10 meg connection for that! Or at the very least, buy a very high speed backup link. Me thinks it would be a very cold day in that they would give you more then a small handfull of IP's with that or let you do something like BGP. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Femtocells
It's interesting to see how the wireless carriers are trying to compete with VoIP and (at the same time) leverage the broader coverage of broadband in areas where cell service is weak. On the cool side: A few of us here have been using T-Mobile's wifi service and GSM+WiFi phones for the past 8 or so months. Calls made over a WiFi connection don't count against minutes. That's a no-brainer since we're at home or the office 90% of the time. When we go to our remote sites where there is no cell coverage, I still have service if I can get WiFi connectivity. I bought an AirPort Express to take along for just that reason. On the down side: They're launching a VoIP product that competes directly with one we're about to launch; theirs is less, but it requires the cell phone contract to be oh-so much, almost making it a wash. Luckily they're not in our market. Whether you're for UMA over WiFi or Femtocell, it certainly enhances the value of the cell phone + Internet connection. -- Bryan Gino Villarini wrote: Hmm I see better opportunity going to the Cellco directly and offer them the service, so that they do a bundle to the end user... Internet - Femtocell And you make and arrangement with the cellco to deliver the traffic directly to them instead of going to the internet...Saving them some $$ On Internet Bandwidth and also providing a lower latency link to them!!! ... maybe this is the next step beyond voip... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Femtocells femtocells This is a great innovation that can help wisps gain market share. With these femtocells, the cell phone works in the house so the consumer doesn't need to have an extra land line. The customer is probably paying 80.00 or so for their dsl - telephone line. No land line needed for us wisps, the customer's 80.00 telco package is now in play. Maybe they want to trade it in for a faster and probably lesser expensive internet connection. It's a good opportunity for us, or the cable company. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/wireless_show_femtocells;_ylt=ArOpXSwLh8fh4Jp nL.VHQpsjtBAF Verizon Wireless is joining Sprint Nextel Corp. in jumping on the latest craze in the wireless world: little boxes called femtocells that boost cell-phone coverage in subscribers' homes. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Are they gunning for us?
ISPs hog rights in fine print NEW YORK - What's scary, funny and boring at the same time? It could be a bad horror movie. Or it could be the fine print on your Internet service provider's contract. Those documents you agree to — usually without reading — ostensibly allow your ISP to watch how you use the Internet, read your e-mail or keep you from visiting sites it deems inappropriate. Some reserve the right to block traffic and, for any reason, cut off a service that many users now find essential. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080404/ap_on_hi_te/isp_fine_print WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Are they gunning for us?
George Rogato wrote: ISPs hog rights in fine print What part of that makes you think that anyone is going after WISPs specifically? Pretty much every ISP large and small I've known, either as an end-user or a competitor, has something very similar in their contract somewhere. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Are they gunning for us?
This all goes back to what the public perceives they are getting or should be getting. None of the average users will ever know the real cost of bandwidth while every broadband company advertises burst speeds and not sustained speeds. We are dealing now with public reading just the bold print and price. When they are bombarded with this from everyone they start to think it is their god given right to have this and at the amount they think it should be. Broadband technology is part of the masses now. The masses will start to dictate how this works out because the big operators will start to buckle to the perceptions of the customer, to keep from getting a bad name. When one starts it, the competitors follow. The big guys can afford to do this and will cause the small operators headaches because of this shift. So goes the cycle... Remember the days of cellular usage and we paid for every minute, who would have thought 15 years later we could pay just one price for unlimited airtime, or for that matter unlimited long distance. Start preparing for this shift in broadband now before you get forced to do it. Society will start to demand it and some operators will deliver, supply and demand. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 3:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Are they gunning for us? ISPs hog rights in fine print NEW YORK - What's scary, funny and boring at the same time? It could be a bad horror movie. Or it could be the fine print on your Internet service provider's contract. Those documents you agree to — usually without reading — ostensibly allow your ISP to watch how you use the Internet, read your e-mail or keep you from visiting sites it deems inappropriate. Some reserve the right to block traffic and, for any reason, cut off a service that many users now find essential. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080404/ap_on_hi_te/isp_fine_print WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Are they gunning for us?
Not wisps, but rather internet service providers in general. David E. Smith wrote: George Rogato wrote: ISPs hog rights in fine print What part of that makes you think that anyone is going after WISPs specifically? Pretty much every ISP large and small I've known, either as an end-user or a competitor, has something very similar in their contract somewhere. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Comcast will also be offering up to 50 Mbps
We've seen the same thing here. Providers are selective to what price they offer who. We've seen $1000 per 5mb hear also. Clearly not the same good deal as $50 for 50mbps. No matter what they offer, I just don't see Comcast giving the $200 bi-diectional 50mbps service to businesses. If they have 5 pcs and no servers, maybe. It also gives you an idea of the real cost Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast will also be offering up to 50 Mbps CableOne in my area does NOT offer service to me. I called and asked... they specifically said not to you. Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: Cable companies already offer BGP fiber connections to anyone (including other operators). Comcast and Charter are two that I know off the top of my head that do. Comcast installs fiber to your prem and is $1000 for 5 megs, up to a full GigE. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast will also be offering up to 50 Mbps Oh boy are they digging themselves a big hole! All of the money is in the TV side of things and they are making it easier for people to watch TV via the web instead of via the cable co. On top of that they are talking about chewing up 4 TV channels PER CUSTOMER Wowsers. Not per custommer rather for the entire node. Currently one channel is shared among many. In future 4 will be shared among many. It's going to be amazing to watch where all of this is going to end up. This is actually great news for the smaller wisps out there. $200 50 meg connections. Very nice. I'd drop my $1000 10 meg connection for that! Or at the very least, buy a very high speed backup link. Me thinks it would be a very cold day in that they would give you more then a small handfull of IP's with that or let you do something like BGP. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1 - Release Date: 3/26/2008 12:00 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Comcast will also be offering up to 50 Mbps
Reality of 50mbps. Well, they can do it eventually, anyone can that offers Fiber. The question is, how quickly do they want to give away their margin? and How quickly can they deploy? Thats the real questions, as long as their is an underserved market, WISPs have a future. How long would it take Comcast or CableVision to roll out Docsis3.0 available to all subscribers? And to all commercial tenant buildings? One of the things to remember is that most Cable companies buy transit, and are not actually a Tier1 themselves. How will that pan out for pricing? They get good rates as long as they are 95% Download traffic. I don't think the cable cos will control the business market, until they also own a significant portion of the server side market. I's ask another question... Who's more of a threat to Business WISPs? Fios or Cable Cos? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Comcast will also be offering up to 50 Mbps
What I really think the Cable Cos are doing is trying to buy Public and government support, using the old Telco trick. Make the public think Comcast is going to provide the holy grail t oconsumers, so support them, and don't beat them up in upcomming legislation. I can see it already... Dont pass Network Neutrality laws, and we'll give teh public 50 mbps, really honest we will, or at least until after we put our competition out of business, and change our mind. :- ) I think in regard to NetNeutrality... What we need to pass is equal oportunity offers. If they offer consumer 50mb they have to offer provider 50 mbps. Cable COs are a subsidized utility. SHouldn;t be able to be selective on what they offer who. If they want to port block so be it, jsut do it equallity. Take away the no-reseller clause. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast will also be offering up to 50 Mbps I should have prefaced that with the word some. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast will also be offering up to 50 Mbps CableOne in my area does NOT offer service to me. I called and asked... they specifically said not to you. Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: Cable companies already offer BGP fiber connections to anyone (including other operators). Comcast and Charter are two that I know off the top of my head that do. Comcast installs fiber to your prem and is $1000 for 5 megs, up to a full GigE. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast will also be offering up to 50 Mbps Oh boy are they digging themselves a big hole! All of the money is in the TV side of things and they are making it easier for people to watch TV via the web instead of via the cable co. On top of that they are talking about chewing up 4 TV channels PER CUSTOMER Wowsers. Not per custommer rather for the entire node. Currently one channel is shared among many. In future 4 will be shared among many. It's going to be amazing to watch where all of this is going to end up. This is actually great news for the smaller wisps out there. $200 50 meg connections. Very nice. I'd drop my $1000 10 meg connection for that! Or at the very least, buy a very high speed backup link. Me thinks it would be a very cold day in that they would give you more then a small handfull of IP's with that or let you do something like BGP. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1 - Release Date: 3/26/2008 12:00 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] For those using IPTrack
did you ever get this resolved? On Wed, Jan 9, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Andrew Niemantsverdriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying a new install of IPTrack. I have my router all set up and sending NetFlow data (verified by tcpdump and NTOP) however when I try to start IPTrack I get these errors: Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/src/iptrack/iptrack_capture.pl line 198. Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/src/iptrack/iptrack_capture.pl line 205. They flood my terminal, I am guessing they happen every time flow data is received. Has anybody else experienced such problems? What did you do to get around them? I tried contacting the developer but have been unsuccessful. The IPTrack host is a CentOS 5 box. I am wondering if the Perl version is causing conflicts. Any help? Or ideas on where to get help? Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] For those using IPTrack
This error generally comes from a variable being used in the regex (pattern matching) in the script isn't set for whatever reason. It's usually fairly simple to track down; you could probably pay someone who knows perl to knock this out in an hour or so or track down the variable yourself if you're comfortable with that sort of thing. -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:52 PM, rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you ever get this resolved? On Wed, Jan 9, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Andrew Niemantsverdriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying a new install of IPTrack. I have my router all set up and sending NetFlow data (verified by tcpdump and NTOP) however when I try to start IPTrack I get these errors: Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/src/iptrack/iptrack_capture.pl line 198. Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/src/iptrack/iptrack_capture.pl line 205. They flood my terminal, I am guessing they happen every time flow data is received. Has anybody else experienced such problems? What did you do to get around them? I tried contacting the developer but have been unsuccessful. The IPTrack host is a CentOS 5 box. I am wondering if the Perl version is causing conflicts. Any help? Or ideas on where to get help? Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Comcast will also be offering up to 50 Mbps
Bandwidth management is a tricky topic, very nuanced, and varies from provider to provider. In someways, despite some of the net neutrality discussions focusing around disclosure, this may end up becoming a bit of a secret sauce because it is so heavily tied into quality perception. In the end, everyone has to throttle--pre-emptively or not at least some of the time; who/how/when makes all the difference. If I read between the lines of a lot of what's going on in the industry, I see that most of the bandwidth management is focused around getting the best performance for the best 90%-95%. The fact that cable msos will aggressively throttle some customers in some situations in the end doesn't matter--they can leverage the expanded capacity to give a very good experience to the bulk of their subscribers that can be hard to recreate using much lower capacity connections. And, in the end, it's not like you actually want the 5-10% as customers anyway, since they are typically unprofitable... By and large, their bandwidth management has better: most of the major providers do provide a pretty good experience if you're not in the edge of their model. The small companies will typically be a lot less refined in this process, so it will likely impact a lot higher percentage of their customers. Clint Ricker -Kentnis Technologies On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just want to point out a couple things... up to 50 Mbps means anywhere from 0 to 50... and The local cable company has automatic throttling even on downloads. One customer said he was downloading a video driver (150MB file) and it started at 3Mbps and by the end was down to 256k. His connection stayed at 256k for about another 2 hours. They are capping people even when they say up to xx speeds. Travis Microserv George Rogato wrote: Comcast will also be offering up to 50 Mbps for downloading, or receiving, files. Uploading, or sending, files will be at up to 5 Mbps. The monthly $150 price is available only to residential customers; small businesses will have to pay $200 for a package that includes additional technical support and security software. The existing high-end tier costs $53. Maximum upload speeds for those customers will automatically increase to 2 Mbps, more than doubling the current limits. Downloads will remain at up to 8 Mbps. Maximum upload speeds for the basic, $43 tier will nearly triple to 1 Mbps, while downloads will remain capped at 6 Mbps. Cablevision Systems Corp. already offers a 50 Mbps maximum download service — with 50 Mbps maximum uploads — for about $200 a month but does not actively market it. Cablevision's fastest advertised service costs up to $65 for maximum downloads of 30 Mbps downloads and uploads of 5 Mbps. To offer the new tier, Comcast is taking advantage of a technology called DOCSIS 3.0, which allows service providers to use four TV channels rather than just one to send data over the cables. The industry group CableLabs is nearing certification of DOCSIS 3.0 modems. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080402/ap_on_hi_te/comcast_faster_internet;_ylt=Agz9F6XU258ZFxgyO4WbYLYjtBAF WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
