Re: [WISPA] IP based security system
I have used the Netbotz appliances before with great success. APC bought them a few years ago. Axis might be another option. Eric Albert Application Engineer Alvarion, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:30 PM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] IP based security system I am looking for recommendations of an IP based security system with high quality video. I believe PC based is what we're after for low cost and upgradability. I am not looking for a single camera, but a whole system with perhaps dozens of cameras. Most security systems I've seen (albeit I'm not really exposed to this industry) you can hardly tell the difference between a person and a dog on it's hind legs. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(43). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MT telnet
Hi, Does anyone know if there is a way to turn off the color features on the newer Mikrotik ROS versions when doing a telnet? It is messing up our remote telnet scripts because the color codes are being sent and the Net::Telnet perl module does not know how to deal with them. thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT telnet
Sigh *no*... http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/US07/v3.pdf (page 21) Console: Colors Console consumes less memory, it hasfaster startup and fast export time References to items, commands, prompts and exports are coloured Currently no way to turn colours off, except running under a dumb terminal ryan Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if there is a way to turn off the color features on the newer Mikrotik ROS versions when doing a telnet? It is messing up our remote telnet scripts because the color codes are being sent and the Net::Telnet perl module does not know how to deal with them. thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP based security system
The best system I've worked with is the Honeywell RapidEye. I've only used it for cameras, but it also does relay input/output for sensors and door locks. Runs $3-$10K depending on the I/O options and storage capacity. http://www.honeywellvideo.com/products/recorders/pc/index.html For stand alone cameras I know some people that have had success with Axis. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for recommendations of an IP based security system with high quality video. I believe PC based is what we're after for low cost and upgradability. I am not looking for a single camera, but a whole system with perhaps dozens of cameras. Most security systems I've seen (albeit I'm not really exposed to this industry) you can hardly tell the difference between a person and a dog on it's hind legs. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT telnet
Can you set your TERM env variable to something different? I don't have a mikrotik to try it on, but if you set your TERM env variable to vt100 it should not use color Ryan D. Ryan Spott wrote: Sigh *no*... http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/US07/v3.pdf (page 21) Console: Colors Console consumes less memory, it hasfaster startup and fast export time References to items, commands, prompts and exports are coloured Currently no way to turn colours off, except running under a dumb terminal ryan Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if there is a way to turn off the color features on the newer Mikrotik ROS versions when doing a telnet? It is messing up our remote telnet scripts because the color codes are being sent and the Net::Telnet perl module does not know how to deal with them. thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ryan Langseth System Administrator InvisiMax email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 218.745.6030 Cell: 701.739.1577 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Court Injunction
Is it possible to get an injunction against a HAM if he moved to a 900MHz frequency as is causing interference that would disrupt our ability to do business? I know he has a license and I don't however there must be some precedent that allows for commercial venture versus amateur radio. Any ideas? Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 P Please consider the environment before printing this email image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
By the way, we have been up there for 4 years - this HAM only recently increased the power in the last three weeks. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications From: Jerry Richardson Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 12:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'Motorola Canopy User Group' Subject: Court Injunction Is it possible to get an injunction against a HAM if he moved to a 900MHz frequency as is causing interference that would disrupt our ability to do business? I know he has a license and I don't however there must be some precedent that allows for commercial venture versus amateur radio. Any ideas? Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 P Please consider the environment before printing this email image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Service in LA
Looking for service in LA, near the home depot center. If you service this area please email me. Dustin Jurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 900mhz - Ham
It's my understanding that as long as the Ham operator is within his operating privileges, any interference with part 15 users or other NON-Licensed user/equipment, there is not much that can be done. I would however bring it to his attention and constructively work on a solution with him. Ham's are known to help as long as they are treated well. Solutions such as band pass filters, proper radio grounding and proper electrical grounding could alleviate some interference problems. Thank You, Lance Jahnke Defacto Wireless Distribution, LLC. 888.275.5159 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service in LA
Louisiana? Los Angeles? Latin America? :-) Dustin Jurman wrote: Looking for service in LA, near the home depot center. If you service this area please email me. Dustin Jurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
Where are u located Jerry? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
Since I have no case, a work around is the way to go IMO. I'm not interested in dragging this out. I do have a plan for a work-around and I am confident it will work. It's just a PITA. Thanks for the input __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Where are u located Jerry? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900mhz - Ham
Yep, Hams OWN this band. We are simply visitors. - Original Message - From: Lance Jahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:01 PM Subject: [WISPA] 900mhz - Ham It's my understanding that as long as the Ham operator is within his operating privileges, any interference with part 15 users or other NON-Licensed user/equipment, there is not much that can be done. I would however bring it to his attention and constructively work on a solution with him. Ham's are known to help as long as they are treated well. Solutions such as band pass filters, proper radio grounding and proper electrical grounding could alleviate some interference problems. Thank You, Lance Jahnke Defacto Wireless Distribution, LLC. 888.275.5159 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
And the ARC? Spew And amateur radio is dying. Its a fact. The last one left needs to shut off the lights. Just look at the hamfests. (I call them the land of the great unwashed) Numbers are diminishing all the time. Springfield MO just announced they are canceling theirs this year. And yes, I can say it. KD4RME Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
I got my HAM license about 9 years ago (gee its almost time to renew!) and I have never really used it. My original intent was to use it in a walkie-talkie type of way with my Dad... but besides the its cool I can talk to someone over the radio at this range, I never really saw the purpose... Of course I come from the Internet Generation :-) Daniel White - KC0GIR 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction And the ARC? Spew And amateur radio is dying. Its a fact. The last one left needs to shut off the lights. Just look at the hamfests. (I call them the land of the great unwashed) Numbers are diminishing all the time. Springfield MO just announced they are canceling theirs this year. And yes, I can say it. KD4RME Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones stinking up their phone booth. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Court Injunction
Well, I thought a filter might have killed the previous message since I hadn't seen it. Oh well... The original sentiment was the intended one... - Original Message - From: Michael Handiboe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Motorola Canopy User Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [Motorola II] [WISPA] Court Injunction Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones stinking up their phone booth. too late chuck, you already hit 'send'... -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
I personally worked in the 911 system during 9-11 and I can say that most of the emergency traffic was self generated and duplicate to info that was already exchanged by other means. While I agree that they may have a place during emergencies I say that they should use 2 meters and 440 for emergency comm only and forfeit everything else above 50 Mhz. There is not a lot of experimental work going on out there on amateur spectrum and for what there is anyone could get an experimental license in other spectrum like Part 90 snd do the same thing. If there was no ARRL this conversation would be moot. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:50:53 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
Last one out turn off the light. LOL That was classic! Tnx Blake Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:54:01 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction And the ARC? Spew And amateur radio is dying. Its a fact. The last one left needs to shut off the lights. Just look at the hamfests. (I call them the land of the great unwashed) Numbers are diminishing all the time. Springfield MO just announced they are canceling theirs this year. And yes, I can say it. KD4RME Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
* Jerry Richardson wrote, On 8/4/2008 3:44 PM: Is it possible to get an injunction against a HAM if he moved to a 900MHz frequency as is causing interference that would disrupt our ability to do business? I know he has a license and I don't however there must be some precedent that allows for commercial venture versus amateur radio. Any ideas? Jerry...sorry Part 97 licensees override anything on part 15. Part 15 devices must accept interference. Have you tried talking with him? Leon WA4ZLW Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 P Please consider the environment before printing this email WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
KD4RME if you were KA4RME you might have a different perspective. Katrina proves the worth of ham radio. Give me a 20 and 40 meter rig, and I will never ever be out of communication irrespective of where you place me on the planet. NO OTHER communications medium can make that claim. Everyone on this list wants more spectrum. Broadcasters and Hams, move out of the way because we are more important, right? To heck with the fact they were there first and are actually licensed. Who cares that all of the original research in RF was done by hams. Wonder how many WISP operators can pass an extra class (or 1st phone) FCC exam? If the WISPs of the nation conducted themselves in a manner similar to the ethos of most hams we wouldn't have these problems. (former KA7WMG) -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:54:01 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction And the ARC? Spew And amateur radio is dying. Its a fact. The last one left needs to shut off the lights. Just look at the hamfests. (I call them the land of the great unwashed) Numbers are diminishing all the time. Springfield MO just announced they are canceling theirs this year. And yes, I can say it. KD4RME Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
Ok. You can have 20 and 40 meters. Give up the Vhf and Uhf. It goes back to all licenseesuse it or loose it Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:34:03 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction KD4RME if you were KA4RME you might have a different perspective. Katrina proves the worth of ham radio. Give me a 20 and 40 meter rig, and I will never ever be out of communication irrespective of where you place me on the planet. NO OTHER communications medium can make that claim. Everyone on this list wants more spectrum. Broadcasters and Hams, move out of the way because we are more important, right? To heck with the fact they were there first and are actually licensed. Who cares that all of the original research in RF was done by hams. Wonder how many WISP operators can pass an extra class (or 1st phone) FCC exam? If the WISPs of the nation conducted themselves in a manner similar to the ethos of most hams we wouldn't have these problems. (former KA7WMG) -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:54:01 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction And the ARC? Spew And amateur radio is dying. Its a fact. The last one left needs to shut off the lights. Just look at the hamfests. (I call them the land of the great unwashed) Numbers are diminishing all the time. Springfield MO just announced they are canceling theirs this year. And yes, I can say it. KD4RME Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
Chuck - why would that make a bit of difference? KD versus KA? I never said ham radio is useless, I just said its dying. The homebrew activity is just a shadow of what it used to be. Most of the traffic on any of the bands will put you to sleep. And I would take issue with your claim that no other communications medium can make that claim. I reach down below my desk and pull out my Micom, and I have voice, data, fax capabilities WITH ALE capability. On HF. With the tuner I can load up a wet string. Oh, did I mention, it is not a HAM radio, although capable. We use it on commercial and federal frequencies. And I seem to remember that during Katrina wireless internet lived in various configurations, and provided invaluable service. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction KD4RME if you were KA4RME you might have a different perspective. Katrina proves the worth of ham radio. Give me a 20 and 40 meter rig, and I will never ever be out of communication irrespective of where you place me on the planet. NO OTHER communications medium can make that claim. Everyone on this list wants more spectrum. Broadcasters and Hams, move out of the way because we are more important, right? To heck with the fact they were there first and are actually licensed. Who cares that all of the original research in RF was done by hams. Wonder how many WISP operators can pass an extra class (or 1st phone) FCC exam? If the WISPs of the nation conducted themselves in a manner similar to the ethos of most hams we wouldn't have these problems. (former KA7WMG) -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:54:01 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction And the ARC? Spew And amateur radio is dying. Its a fact. The last one left needs to shut off the lights. Just look at the hamfests. (I call them the land of the great unwashed) Numbers are diminishing all the time. Springfield MO just announced they are canceling theirs this year. And yes, I can say it. KD4RME Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] MT telnet
You should be able to add +c to the username and it will disable colors, +t will disable terminal detection. So the default username would be admin+ct with its normal password. Be prepared for several other things to break. Things moved around again in version 3. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Ryan Langseth wrote: Can you set your TERM env variable to something different? I don't have a mikrotik to try it on, but if you set your TERM env variable to vt100 it should not use color Ryan D. Ryan Spott wrote: Sigh *no*... http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/US07/v3.pdf (page 21) Console: Colors Console consumes less memory, it hasfaster startup and fast export time References to items, commands, prompts and exports are coloured Currently no way to turn colours off, except running under a dumb terminal ryan Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if there is a way to turn off the color features on the newer Mikrotik ROS versions when doing a telnet? It is messing up our remote telnet scripts because the color codes are being sent and the Net::Telnet perl module does not know how to deal with them. thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] For those that didn't see it....
Marlon, thanks for that, very helpful. I notice you don't mention half and quarter size channels as another solution. Is that something you've thought about? I just started with 2.4 gear last year (StarOS), so I've generally been using cloaking from the beginning. I think it has helped me get by, even with all my newbie mistakes. -John On August 1, at 12:07 PM August 1, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: http://www.isp-planet.com/fixed_wireless/technology/2008/self +interference.html Hope it helps some folks out. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
A KA has been a ham longer than a KD. (assuming it is not a vanity call sign) Long time hams have more passion for the subject. But really, I agree with almost everything said. Ham really has been dying for a very long time. I just get bent when some WISPs take the entitlement attitude towards ham freqs. There are lots of PhDs that work in electrodynamics that are hams and merge their work world with their hobby world. Amateur Radio is Amateur like the Olympics used to be Amateur. If anything they were the most professional people in the industry. I would hire a hobbiest ham over some guy with a certificate any day of the week. - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Chuck - why would that make a bit of difference? KD versus KA? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT telnet
Hi, That fixed our problems. THANKS! Travis Microserv Sam Tetherow wrote: You should be able to add +c to the username and it will disable colors, +t will disable terminal detection. So the default username would be admin+ct with its normal password. Be prepared for several other things to break. Things moved around again in version 3. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Ryan Langseth wrote: Can you set your TERM env variable to something different? I don't have a mikrotik to try it on, but if you set your TERM env variable to vt100 it should not use color Ryan D. Ryan Spott wrote: Sigh *no*... http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/US07/v3.pdf (page 21) Console: Colors Console consumes less memory, it hasfaster startup and fast export time References to items, commands, prompts and exports are coloured Currently no way to turn colours off, except running under a dumb terminal ryan Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if there is a way to turn off the "color" features on the newer Mikrotik ROS versions when doing a telnet? It is messing up our remote telnet scripts because the color codes are being sent and the Net::Telnet perl module does not know how to deal with them. thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
i n l i n e . . . Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: KD4RME if you were KA4RME you might have a different perspective. Katrina proves the worth of ham radio. Give me a 20 and 40 meter rig, and I will never ever be out of communication irrespective of where you place me on the planet. NO OTHER communications medium can make that claim. Everyone on this list wants more spectrum. Broadcasters and Hams, move out of the way because we are more important, right? To heck with the fact they were there first and are actually licensed. Who cares that all of the original research in RF was done by hams. Wonder how many WISP operators can pass an extra class (or 1st phone) FCC exam? I think it works the other way around; experience gained by FCC licensees made the WISP business possible. FCC license experience led to much of the technical innovation which today ENABLES successful WISP operation. I've had my Amateur Extra license for 48 years and my 1st Class Radiotelephone (now called General Radiotelephone) License for 30 years. WITHOUT the learning and the experiences that having these licenses allowed me to obtain, no way would I have been able to now be in my 16th year in the WISP industry. Any WISP who does not take the time to learn at least a little ham radio and commercial radio history has NO IDEA of the roots or the heritage of their business. It's kind of like a new-car salesman who has no idea about how an internal combustion engine works. If the WISPs of the nation conducted themselves in a manner similar to the ethos of most hams we wouldn't have these problems. Agreed. (former KA7WMG) -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:54:01 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction And the ARC? Spew And amateur radio is dying. Its a fact. The last one left needs to shut off the lights. Just look at the hamfests. (I call them the land of the great unwashed) Numbers are diminishing all the time. Springfield MO just announced they are canceling theirs this year. And yes, I can say it. KD4RME Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction - Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting FCC License # PG-12-25133 Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
You make some good points, Chuck, but you are wrong about one thing: The amateur ranks have been growing like mad since the archaic CW (Morse Code) requirement was eliminated. Also, hams are still experimenting and innovating like never before as is demonstrated by the tremendous growth of SDR (Software Defined Radio) amongst the ham ranks. The Big 3 of ham radio manufacturers (Icom, Yaesu and Kenwood) are fast losing ground to the more innovative ham-owned and operated companies of TenTec, Elecraft and Flex-Radio. These same ham-owned companies are selling a lot of gear to the military, so they must be on to something. Hams are pushing the envelope in satellite and microwave comms as well as digital communications methods which allow communications to occur at levels 30dB below the noise floor. Anyone who thinks we're a dying breed and parasites with frequency allocations that should be reassigned to folks who can make better use of it knows absolutely nothing about what's really happening in ham radio today. Of course, people talking strongly about things they don't understand is very common, particularly in election years. Rick, W7RAF Extra Class and 1st Class Radiotelephone -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction A KA has been a ham longer than a KD. (assuming it is not a vanity call sign) Long time hams have more passion for the subject. But really, I agree with almost everything said. Ham really has been dying for a very long time. I just get bent when some WISPs take the entitlement attitude towards ham freqs. There are lots of PhDs that work in electrodynamics that are hams and merge their work world with their hobby world. Amateur Radio is Amateur like the Olympics used to be Amateur. If anything they were the most professional people in the industry. I would hire a hobbiest ham over some guy with a certificate any day of the week. - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Chuck - why would that make a bit of difference? KD versus KA? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISP] Court Injunction
First and foremost, talk to him. If you have, what's he said when you explained what his actions are doing to you? marlon - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson To: WISPA General List ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Motorola Canopy User Group Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: [WISP] Court Injunction Is it possible to get an injunction against a HAM if he moved to a 900MHz frequency as is causing interference that would disrupt our ability to do business? I know he has a license and I don't however there must be some precedent that allows for commercial venture versus amateur radio. Any ideas? Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 P Please consider the environment before printing this email image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
But when 802.11 became easy it invited all the people to use it who thought that 10 watt amps were a good idea too. Doesn't the more amateur HAM users invite those who are less experienced to just crank up the power rather than look at the engineering of their systems? Isn't removing a barrier to broadcasting as a HAM (the CW requirement) simply inviting less experienced, less responsible users into the band? Like look at the CB world, how many times have you seen someone with a massive RF amp out there broadcasting over everyone else? - Original Message - From: Rick Fletcher, W7RAF [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction You make some good points, Chuck, but you are wrong about one thing: The amateur ranks have been growing like mad since the archaic CW (Morse Code) requirement was eliminated. Also, hams are still experimenting and innovating like never before as is demonstrated by the tremendous growth of SDR (Software Defined Radio) amongst the ham ranks. The Big 3 of ham radio manufacturers (Icom, Yaesu and Kenwood) are fast losing ground to the more innovative ham-owned and operated companies of TenTec, Elecraft and Flex-Radio. These same ham-owned companies are selling a lot of gear to the military, so they must be on to something. Hams are pushing the envelope in satellite and microwave comms as well as digital communications methods which allow communications to occur at levels 30dB below the noise floor. Anyone who thinks we're a dying breed and parasites with frequency allocations that should be reassigned to folks who can make better use of it knows absolutely nothing about what's really happening in ham radio today. Of course, people talking strongly about things they don't understand is very common, particularly in election years. Rick, W7RAF Extra Class and 1st Class Radiotelephone -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction A KA has been a ham longer than a KD. (assuming it is not a vanity call sign) Long time hams have more passion for the subject. But really, I agree with almost everything said. Ham really has been dying for a very long time. I just get bent when some WISPs take the entitlement attitude towards ham freqs. There are lots of PhDs that work in electrodynamics that are hams and merge their work world with their hobby world. Amateur Radio is Amateur like the Olympics used to be Amateur. If anything they were the most professional people in the industry. I would hire a hobbiest ham over some guy with a certificate any day of the week. - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Chuck - why would that make a bit of difference? KD versus KA? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
That is good to hear. I was the president of my university ham club many years ago. I let my license expire due to ignorance of the due date. I have never bothered to renew it. I never made extra 'cause I couldn't do one minute of perfect copy @ 20 wpm. I had some mistakes. - Original Message - From: Rick Fletcher, W7RAF [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction You make some good points, Chuck, but you are wrong about one thing: The amateur ranks have been growing like mad since the archaic CW (Morse Code) requirement was eliminated. Also, hams are still experimenting and innovating like never before as is demonstrated by the tremendous growth of SDR (Software Defined Radio) amongst the ham ranks. The Big 3 of ham radio manufacturers (Icom, Yaesu and Kenwood) are fast losing ground to the more innovative ham-owned and operated companies of TenTec, Elecraft and Flex-Radio. These same ham-owned companies are selling a lot of gear to the military, so they must be on to something. Hams are pushing the envelope in satellite and microwave comms as well as digital communications methods which allow communications to occur at levels 30dB below the noise floor. Anyone who thinks we're a dying breed and parasites with frequency allocations that should be reassigned to folks who can make better use of it knows absolutely nothing about what's really happening in ham radio today. Of course, people talking strongly about things they don't understand is very common, particularly in election years. Rick, W7RAF Extra Class and 1st Class Radiotelephone -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction A KA has been a ham longer than a KD. (assuming it is not a vanity call sign) Long time hams have more passion for the subject. But really, I agree with almost everything said. Ham really has been dying for a very long time. I just get bent when some WISPs take the entitlement attitude towards ham freqs. There are lots of PhDs that work in electrodynamics that are hams and merge their work world with their hobby world. Amateur Radio is Amateur like the Olympics used to be Amateur. If anything they were the most professional people in the industry. I would hire a hobbiest ham over some guy with a certificate any day of the week. - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Chuck - why would that make a bit of difference? KD versus KA? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
Well spoken Jack. If I had not earned my ham ticket almost 40 years ago, and used it as a platform for endless home-brewing, I'd never have started this company. Tom Sharples WA6HAS, ARRL, QCWA Qorvus Systems, Inc. - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction i n l i n e . . . Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: KD4RME if you were KA4RME you might have a different perspective. Katrina proves the worth of ham radio. Give me a 20 and 40 meter rig, and I will never ever be out of communication irrespective of where you place me on the planet. NO OTHER communications medium can make that claim. Everyone on this list wants more spectrum. Broadcasters and Hams, move out of the way because we are more important, right? To heck with the fact they were there first and are actually licensed. Who cares that all of the original research in RF was done by hams. Wonder how many WISP operators can pass an extra class (or 1st phone) FCC exam? I think it works the other way around; experience gained by FCC licensees made the WISP business possible. FCC license experience led to much of the technical innovation which today ENABLES successful WISP operation. I've had my Amateur Extra license for 48 years and my 1st Class Radiotelephone (now called General Radiotelephone) License for 30 years. WITHOUT the learning and the experiences that having these licenses allowed me to obtain, no way would I have been able to now be in my 16th year in the WISP industry. Any WISP who does not take the time to learn at least a little ham radio and commercial radio history has NO IDEA of the roots or the heritage of their business. It's kind of like a new-car salesman who has no idea about how an internal combustion engine works. If the WISPs of the nation conducted themselves in a manner similar to the ethos of most hams we wouldn't have these problems. Agreed. (former KA7WMG) -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:54:01 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction And the ARC? Spew And amateur radio is dying. Its a fact. The last one left needs to shut off the lights. Just look at the hamfests. (I call them the land of the great unwashed) Numbers are diminishing all the time. Springfield MO just announced they are canceling theirs this year. And yes, I can say it. KD4RME Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction - Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Vendor-Neutral
Re: [WISPA] For those that didn't see it....
Nope. MOST people use full channels so that we have a choice of cpe to use. Smaller channels are also relatively new. Some of us have networks that are nearly a decade old now. grin You are right though, that's one way to help sneak into small empty places in the band. marlon - Original Message - From: John Valenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] For those that didn't see it Marlon, thanks for that, very helpful. I notice you don't mention half and quarter size channels as another solution. Is that something you've thought about? I just started with 2.4 gear last year (StarOS), so I've generally been using cloaking from the beginning. I think it has helped me get by, even with all my newbie mistakes. -John On August 1, at 12:07 PM August 1, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: http://www.isp-planet.com/fixed_wireless/technology/2008/self +interference.html Hope it helps some folks out. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
Ditto. My first transmitter (home built, toilet paper tube for coil form) was a hartley VCO connected to an antenna. Was so unstable that it sounded like wandering fsk. - Original Message - From: Tom Sharples [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Well spoken Jack. If I had not earned my ham ticket almost 40 years ago, and used it as a platform for endless home-brewing, I'd never have started this company. Tom Sharples WA6HAS, ARRL, QCWA Qorvus Systems, Inc. - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction i n l i n e . . . Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: KD4RME if you were KA4RME you might have a different perspective. Katrina proves the worth of ham radio. Give me a 20 and 40 meter rig, and I will never ever be out of communication irrespective of where you place me on the planet. NO OTHER communications medium can make that claim. Everyone on this list wants more spectrum. Broadcasters and Hams, move out of the way because we are more important, right? To heck with the fact they were there first and are actually licensed. Who cares that all of the original research in RF was done by hams. Wonder how many WISP operators can pass an extra class (or 1st phone) FCC exam? I think it works the other way around; experience gained by FCC licensees made the WISP business possible. FCC license experience led to much of the technical innovation which today ENABLES successful WISP operation. I've had my Amateur Extra license for 48 years and my 1st Class Radiotelephone (now called General Radiotelephone) License for 30 years. WITHOUT the learning and the experiences that having these licenses allowed me to obtain, no way would I have been able to now be in my 16th year in the WISP industry. Any WISP who does not take the time to learn at least a little ham radio and commercial radio history has NO IDEA of the roots or the heritage of their business. It's kind of like a new-car salesman who has no idea about how an internal combustion engine works. If the WISPs of the nation conducted themselves in a manner similar to the ethos of most hams we wouldn't have these problems. Agreed. (former KA7WMG) -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:54:01 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction And the ARC? Spew And amateur radio is dying. Its a fact. The last one left needs to shut off the lights. Just look at the hamfests. (I call them the land of the great unwashed) Numbers are diminishing all the time. Springfield MO just announced they are canceling theirs this year. And yes, I can say it. KD4RME Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008
Re: [WISPA] MT telnet
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Sam Tetherow wrote: You should be able to add +c to the username and it will disable colors, +t will disable terminal detection. So the default username would be admin+ct with its normal password. As much as I use the console, I never knew this little gem. GREAT information. ;-) -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Was Direct Hit!! .....thanks for all the help!
As of about 10:30pm tonight, we have both towers up and running. Thanks to Dave Rumore, Mike and Bob from Defacto, CTI, Dave East, and Alliance. We were able to pick up two Redline links from Alliance in Atlanta through DeFacto Wireless and replace them with the bad ones this evening. Everything is back up and running. Thanks for all the help. I'm tired, G'nite. -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Was Direct Hit!! .....thanks for all the help!
Thanks to Harold from Ligowave and Brian from LMG for the willingness as well! :-) On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM, John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As of about 10:30pm tonight, we have both towers up and running. Thanks to Dave Rumore, Mike and Bob from Defacto, CTI, Dave East, and Alliance. We were able to pick up two Redline links from Alliance in Atlanta through DeFacto Wireless and replace them with the bad ones this evening. Everything is back up and running. Thanks for all the help. I'm tired, G'nite. -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
