Re: [WISPA] OT, roof rack
Marlon, Go to Home Depot or a Lowes and buy Unistrut. It has all kinds of parts and adapters that will allow ou to make a really nice rack on the cheap. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: LOL It's looking like a very nice rig. I miss all of the storage room in my Taurus wagon. But, since it's now totaled and sitting in a wrecking yard it was time to get something new. Hope I can get 284k miles out of this one too! 4 wheel drive, 7 passenger, Bose tunes, 20mpg so far (had it all of 24 hours and no ladder on top yet :-), it's looking like it'll be a nice rig! In looking around I think I might better off building something. sigh. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, roof rack On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I just got a new install rig. Anyone have any suggestions for replacing the flimsy roof rack cross members that come with a 2004 GMC Envoy? It'd take about 2 years to do it, but if you send it down here to Missouri, I'd get it done for you. ;-) -- *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS* *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.17/1655 - Release Date: 9/5/2008 7:05 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 802.3af PoE Injector Recommendations
Does anyone have a PoE recommendation for standard PoE injector, and a cheap PoE Switch (only need 4 or 5 ports) Thanks! Daniel White 3-dB Networks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Insurance
What do you guys have for insurance policies? I am working with my Hartford agent and I want to make sure I get what I need, but don't buy unnecessary policies. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Dragonwave 18Ghz 40Mbps, new - need to move
Hi folks, Have a new 18ghz link with 40meg license we decided not to deploy and ran fiber instead. Need to move, will take first aggressive offer. Hit me offlist. Thanks -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks
I love my IP3. I also like this --- http://www.valuepointnet.com/products/controllers/index.html -RickG On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Rogelio, From our evaluation and number of years back, The IP3 didn't do anything that we weren't already doing with standard OpenSource packages, or lower cost WISP standard gear like Mikrotik. But you hit the nail on the head on the value IP3 gives... Turn Key System. It enables the buyer to hit the ground running with a working solution, if they didn't really know how to do those type things on their own, or have the time to figure it out. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks Butch Evans wrote: I can get you exactly the same thing and for MUCH less than $3k. That much money must be a really NICE bit of hardware. I set these things up all the time in hotels for less than $900 TOTAL (I charge them more than that). I can't image what kind of gear would require that much money. Cool, I've love to see a URL showing the features of your $900 soln. In context, the $3K was a tiny, tiny part of the hundreds of thousands of dollars that they were spending on networking hardware (Mikrotiks, BelAir, etc). Also, they were looking for turnkey, easy-to-maintain solutions on which they would a serious revenue stream would depend. And while I don't know for sure to that IP3 completely provides that, I'm guessing it does to some degree... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks
I'll second that. Valuepoint makes some cheap gear that is pretty easy to setup. We have used them in a few hotspot applications. Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks I love my IP3. I also like this --- http://www.valuepointnet.com/products/controllers/index.html -RickG On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Rogelio, From our evaluation and number of years back, The IP3 didn't do anything that we weren't already doing with standard OpenSource packages, or lower cost WISP standard gear like Mikrotik. But you hit the nail on the head on the value IP3 gives... Turn Key System. It enables the buyer to hit the ground running with a working solution, if they didn't really know how to do those type things on their own, or have the time to figure it out. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks Butch Evans wrote: I can get you exactly the same thing and for MUCH less than $3k. That much money must be a really NICE bit of hardware. I set these things up all the time in hotels for less than $900 TOTAL (I charge them more than that). I can't image what kind of gear would require that much money. Cool, I've love to see a URL showing the features of your $900 soln. In context, the $3K was a tiny, tiny part of the hundreds of thousands of dollars that they were spending on networking hardware (Mikrotiks, BelAir, etc). Also, they were looking for turnkey, easy-to-maintain solutions on which they would a serious revenue stream would depend. And while I don't know for sure to that IP3 completely provides that, I'm guessing it does to some degree... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance
My opinion of insurance is not good! (Insurance is a racket and of Satan -hehehehe) When you buy insurance, buy what you can afford and all you can afford. It has been our experience that we really haven't needed any insurance and it has been a big waste of money, but I do know that for the other types of insurance we have in place - - it's never enough when you do need to file a claim. Don't read me wrong here - I am not saying that you don't need insurance or that I don't have insurance - - I am simply saying that (with hard work - not by luck) you will not ever need to file a claim and it will appear to you as it does me (a waste) until some unfortunate time when someone throws the monkey into the bicycle spokes and the ride ends abruptly :-) We have a $2M general liability policy w/o omissions Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:31 AM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Insurance What do you guys have for insurance policies? I am working with my Hartford agent and I want to make sure I get what I need, but don't buy unnecessary policies. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1662 - Release Date: 9/9/2008 10:47 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance
Without good insurance, there are a lot of things you can't do and places you can't go. We're with Chubb right now and looking into Hartford. We have liability, EO, and an umbrella. On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 11:12:21AM -0500, Mac Dearman wrote: My opinion of insurance is not good! (Insurance is a racket and of Satan -hehehehe) When you buy insurance, buy what you can afford and all you can afford. It has been our experience that we really haven't needed any insurance and it has been a big waste of money, but I do know that for the other types of insurance we have in place - - it's never enough when you do need to file a claim. Don't read me wrong here - I am not saying that you don't need insurance or that I don't have insurance - - I am simply saying that (with hard work - not by luck) you will not ever need to file a claim and it will appear to you as it does me (a waste) until some unfortunate time when someone throws the monkey into the bicycle spokes and the ride ends abruptly :-) We have a $2M general liability policy w/o omissions Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:31 AM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Insurance What do you guys have for insurance policies? I am working with my Hartford agent and I want to make sure I get what I need, but don't buy unnecessary policies. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1662 - Release Date: 9/9/2008 10:47 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Best of WiMAX World
Voting is now open for the best of WiMAX World. It would be good PR if WISPA could recognize one of its members as the winner. And of course Rapid Link would appreciate it if you voted for us. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=1tQ1xOpQ_2bZi4ts6kn6WPrg_3d_3d -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] dns flakey today?
Anyone else have problems resolving dns today? I had a hosted domain quit working today. It fixed itself after several hours and now it appears Embarq's DNS is down altogether. Switched to Frognet and theirs seems flakey. Just wondering if there is some sort of mass problem going on. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Distance on 18ghz with 2' dishes?
Anybody have an idea of what distance can be achieved with an 18ghz link and 2' dishes? -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Distance on 18ghz with 2' dishes?
Anywhere from 1 mile to 27 miles... ;) Travis Microserv John McDowell wrote: Anybody have an idea of what distance can be achieved with an 18ghz link and 2' dishes? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Best of WiMAX World
I voted for you Matt. Good luck. I hope you will mention WISPA if you get it. All the best, John Scrivner On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Voting is now open for the best of WiMAX World. It would be good PR if WISPA could recognize one of its members as the winner. And of course Rapid Link would appreciate it if you voted for us. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=1tQ1xOpQ_2bZi4ts6kn6WPrg_3d_3d -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Distance on 18ghz with 2' dishes?
Depends on manufactuer, product and reliabilty goal. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:52:17 To: Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Distance on 18ghz with 2' dishes? Anybody have an idea of what distance can be achieved with an 18ghz link and 2' dishes? -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Distance on 18ghz with 2' dishes?
We do lots of the calcs every day (with PathLoss 4). If you want us to run a path calculation, what we would ask for is GPS coordinates, AGL heights, desired throughput, and reliability requirements (4 nines, 5 nines, etc). The outcome of the path calculations also largely depend on your region, since rain fade is a critical factor when considering an 18 Ghz link. If you want us to run a path profile for you let me know. John Seaman Trango -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 3:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Distance on 18ghz with 2' dishes? Depends on manufactuer, product and reliabilty goal. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:52:17 To: Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Distance on 18ghz with 2' dishes? Anybody have an idea of what distance can be achieved with an 18ghz link and 2' dishes? -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT, roof rack
H, I think this one has the best looking roof rack! http://members.shaw.ca/julie.leung/pictures/T7_songthaew.jpg Thanks oh so much for the ideas! (eye roll) marlon - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, roof rack I thought these looked like something you would drive Marlon! Might be worth dressing up that new truck of your's. http://criticalmiami.com/images/510.jpg http://summerpowell.typepad.com/my_weblog/images/cimg7193.jpg http://members.shaw.ca/julie.leung/pictures/T7_songthaew.jpg http://www.stephenandlinda.net/images/image101.jpg http://www.chrisbuettner.com/MOT/Album/slides/Image00021.jpg Just some ideas! Take care, Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 11:19 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] OT, roof rack Hi All, I just got a new install rig. Anyone have any suggestions for replacing the flimsy roof rack cross members that come with a 2004 GMC Envoy? Thank, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.17/1655 - Release Date: 9/5/2008 7:05 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT, roof rack
That sounds like a good idea. But this is a really nice looking rig (only 51k miles) and I'd like to keep it that way. Looking for a good looking functional unit that will lock down the ladder(s) without the hassle of bungee cords. marlon - Original Message - From: Tim Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 4:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, roof rack Marlon, Go to Home Depot or a Lowes and buy Unistrut. It has all kinds of parts and adapters that will allow ou to make a really nice rack on the cheap. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: LOL It's looking like a very nice rig. I miss all of the storage room in my Taurus wagon. But, since it's now totaled and sitting in a wrecking yard it was time to get something new. Hope I can get 284k miles out of this one too! 4 wheel drive, 7 passenger, Bose tunes, 20mpg so far (had it all of 24 hours and no ladder on top yet :-), it's looking like it'll be a nice rig! In looking around I think I might better off building something. sigh. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, roof rack On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I just got a new install rig. Anyone have any suggestions for replacing the flimsy roof rack cross members that come with a 2004 GMC Envoy? It'd take about 2 years to do it, but if you send it down here to Missouri, I'd get it done for you. ;-) -- *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS* *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.17/1655 - Release Date: 9/5/2008 7:05 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT, roof rack
Wow -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, roof rack H, I think this one has the best looking roof rack! http://members.shaw.ca/julie.leung/pictures/T7_songthaew.jpg Thanks oh so much for the ideas! (eye roll) marlon - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, roof rack I thought these looked like something you would drive Marlon! Might be worth dressing up that new truck of your's. http://criticalmiami.com/images/510.jpg http://summerpowell.typepad.com/my_weblog/images/cimg7193.jpg http://members.shaw.ca/julie.leung/pictures/T7_songthaew.jpg http://www.stephenandlinda.net/images/image101.jpg http://www.chrisbuettner.com/MOT/Album/slides/Image00021.jpg Just some ideas! Take care, Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 11:19 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] OT, roof rack Hi All, I just got a new install rig. Anyone have any suggestions for replacing the flimsy roof rack cross members that come with a 2004 GMC Envoy? Thank, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.17/1655 - Release Date: 9/5/2008 7:05 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT, roof rack
You have to know the history of this one... http://www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/marlon.jpg I actually wore that on stage one time! grin marlon - Original Message - From: Tom Fadgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, roof rack Wow -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, roof rack H, I think this one has the best looking roof rack! http://members.shaw.ca/julie.leung/pictures/T7_songthaew.jpg Thanks oh so much for the ideas! (eye roll) marlon - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, roof rack I thought these looked like something you would drive Marlon! Might be worth dressing up that new truck of your's. http://criticalmiami.com/images/510.jpg http://summerpowell.typepad.com/my_weblog/images/cimg7193.jpg http://members.shaw.ca/julie.leung/pictures/T7_songthaew.jpg http://www.stephenandlinda.net/images/image101.jpg http://www.chrisbuettner.com/MOT/Album/slides/Image00021.jpg Just some ideas! Take care, Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 11:19 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] OT, roof rack Hi All, I just got a new install rig. Anyone have any suggestions for replacing the flimsy roof rack cross members that come with a 2004 GMC Envoy? Thank, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.17/1655 - Release Date: 9/5/2008 7:05 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Best of WiMAX World
Rapid Link got my Vote Matt. Good luck! Matt Liotta wrote: Voting is now open for the best of WiMAX World. It would be good PR if WISPA could recognize one of its members as the winner. And of course Rapid Link would appreciate it if you voted for us. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=1tQ1xOpQ_2bZi4ts6kn6WPrg_3d_3d -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Distance on 18ghz with 2' dishes?
The biggest factor is Rain Zone. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Distance on 18ghz with 2' dishes? Depends on manufactuer, product and reliabilty goal. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:52:17 To: Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Distance on 18ghz with 2' dishes? Anybody have an idea of what distance can be achieved with an 18ghz link and 2' dishes? -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] DSL Tariffed
I'm losing a business customer to DSL. They offered them a price much below what they advertise (6Mbps for $49). My question is: Is DSL a tariffed service and have to sell at their advertised rates? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] frequency converters
Whats the downside to using frequency converters? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed
No and no. In case you missed it, the FCC Report and Order FCC 05-150 issued on 9/23/05 basically gave your business away to the RBOCS. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:11 PM Subject: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed I'm losing a business customer to DSL. They offered them a price much below what they advertise (6Mbps for $49). My question is: Is DSL a tariffed service and have to sell at their advertised rates? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] frequency converters
Noise? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:49 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] frequency converters Whats the downside to using frequency converters? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed
I do recall something to that nature. It just didnt hit me until lately. Oh well, expand out further, forget the inner city. Thanks! On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No and no. In case you missed it, the FCC Report and Order FCC 05-150 issued on 9/23/05 basically gave your business away to the RBOCS. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:11 PM Subject: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed I'm losing a business customer to DSL. They offered them a price much below what they advertise (6Mbps for $49). My question is: Is DSL a tariffed service and have to sell at their advertised rates? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] frequency converters
Mike, Have you tried them? Anyone? -RickG On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noise? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:49 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] frequency converters Whats the downside to using frequency converters? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed
Rick, I hate to say this, but you must have missed the big fuss over all this about 2 years agao.. Back in 2005, FCC gave forebearance to all the Bells for DSL Services. They don't have any obligations to sell DSL to any resellersand are allowed to set prices on a commercial agreement basis. Regards Faisal Imtiaz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed I'm losing a business customer to DSL. They offered them a price much below what they advertise (6Mbps for $49). My question is: Is DSL a tariffed service and have to sell at their advertised rates? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed
No, not necessarilly. The 6mbps DSL still has to work, in order for it to take your business. Just because they offer the a price doesn;t mean the copper will be available or that the loop will be short enough to facilitate the speed. Sure they can take your client on a given day, but that doesn't necessarily mean they can take your market. There are lots of coverage holes for DSL. Don't forget to push the value of your repsonse time guarantees. There is no credabilty in a LEC promissing something that they aren't capable of giving. The DSL probably has a 30 day response or repair guarantee. You can offer them a 2 or 4 hour repsonse wireless guarantee, and deliver it. A LEC likely will likely never be able to deliver that.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed I do recall something to that nature. It just didnt hit me until lately. Oh well, expand out further, forget the inner city. Thanks! On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No and no. In case you missed it, the FCC Report and Order FCC 05-150 issued on 9/23/05 basically gave your business away to the RBOCS. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:11 PM Subject: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed I'm losing a business customer to DSL. They offered them a price much below what they advertise (6Mbps for $49). My question is: Is DSL a tariffed service and have to sell at their advertised rates? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] frequency converters
I'm not sure there is any significant disadvantage. Other than the obvious, such as another point of failure, another connection to add loss, mild loss of energy in the conversion, additional cost. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] frequency converters Mike, Have you tried them? Anyone? -RickG On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noise? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:49 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] frequency converters Whats the downside to using frequency converters? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed
Or, if they have their own mail server, wait until they've begged, over and over to the LEC, to unblock Port 25. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed No, not necessarilly. The 6mbps DSL still has to work, in order for it to take your business. Just because they offer the a price doesn;t mean the copper will be available or that the loop will be short enough to facilitate the speed. Sure they can take your client on a given day, but that doesn't necessarily mean they can take your market. There are lots of coverage holes for DSL. Don't forget to push the value of your repsonse time guarantees. There is no credabilty in a LEC promissing something that they aren't capable of giving. The DSL probably has a 30 day response or repair guarantee. You can offer them a 2 or 4 hour repsonse wireless guarantee, and deliver it. A LEC likely will likely never be able to deliver that.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed I do recall something to that nature. It just didnt hit me until lately. Oh well, expand out further, forget the inner city. Thanks! On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No and no. In case you missed it, the FCC Report and Order FCC 05-150 issued on 9/23/05 basically gave your business away to the RBOCS. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:11 PM Subject: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed I'm losing a business customer to DSL. They offered them a price much below what they advertise (6Mbps for $49). My question is: Is DSL a tariffed service and have to sell at their advertised rates? -RickG -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed
Tom, You are very correct. In fact, we give fantastic service with same day response and many other perks that all of you know out. Unfortunatley, many are swayed by crazy marketing campaigns promising the world. I've always said that the lies will catch up with them but somehow even when they cant deliver their brainwashed customers stick with the LEC's. I'm not saying this is always the case but it is prevalent. Meanwhile, I'm stuck paying $600/month/T1 and get treated like dirt. At any rate, there are some that understand the values you mention. Thanks for your input! -RickG On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, not necessarilly. The 6mbps DSL still has to work, in order for it to take your business. Just because they offer the a price doesn;t mean the copper will be available or that the loop will be short enough to facilitate the speed. Sure they can take your client on a given day, but that doesn't necessarily mean they can take your market. There are lots of coverage holes for DSL. Don't forget to push the value of your repsonse time guarantees. There is no credabilty in a LEC promissing something that they aren't capable of giving. The DSL probably has a 30 day response or repair guarantee. You can offer them a 2 or 4 hour repsonse wireless guarantee, and deliver it. A LEC likely will likely never be able to deliver that.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed I do recall something to that nature. It just didnt hit me until lately. Oh well, expand out further, forget the inner city. Thanks! On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No and no. In case you missed it, the FCC Report and Order FCC 05-150 issued on 9/23/05 basically gave your business away to the RBOCS. Frank Muto www.SecureEmailPlus.com - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:11 PM Subject: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed I'm losing a business customer to DSL. They offered them a price much below what they advertise (6Mbps for $49). My question is: Is DSL a tariffed service and have to sell at their advertised rates? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] frequency converters
I always appreciate your input, have you tried them? I'd love to hear from someone that has and their experience. -RickG On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure there is any significant disadvantage. Other than the obvious, such as another point of failure, another connection to add loss, mild loss of energy in the conversion, additional cost. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] frequency converters Mike, Have you tried them? Anyone? -RickG On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noise? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:49 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] frequency converters Whats the downside to using frequency converters? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?
Funny you should mention that... we have had equipment tribalized here too. Even if you have an agreement signed by the tribal elders, the chapter presidency and the BIA, it means nothing. You are allowed to declare war on sovereign nations =) -Charles Charles Wu President [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 773-457-0718 * office: 773-667-4585 x2500 16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 * tel: 773.667.4585 fax: 773.326.4641 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 2:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? I have heard of that happening on native lands here in the US too. I have nothing to confirm that though. ryan -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? We were in Sakhalin Island in Russia. The government just up and decided to take over everything. Booted out the oil companies and said finders keepers to everyone. I will never do any intl work again without full money up front. - Original Message - From: Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? Dennis Burgess wrote: Depends if you are used to doing that. However, I do know they are investing quite a bit of money in the Nigerian infrustructure. I know what Routers they are using. lol Joking aside, there is big money in building telcos in Nigeria. Some Los Angeles based VCs I work with are working with the government in building out their network infrastructure. Getting the rights to work/sell there is tricky, but once they attained them, things got easier WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] frequency converters
Rick, In all fairness, we have not often used third party Frequency Converters, because of the cost. Additional input from those that have more experience with specific models, would likely be beneficial to hear from. What I can tell you is that it is becoming a popular trend to implement frequency converter in manufacturer's product lines to lower cost. The first two examples that come to mind are Trango's 5580s, or Ubiquiti's 900Mhz mpci cards which are more or 2.4G chipsets with Freq Converters. It doesn't stop there... Similar concepts have been applied to some 18Ghz and 23Ghz brand radios, to make them more affordable to make, integrating them with Wifi OFDM chipsets. This approach resulted in the first 23Ghz to enter the market under $6000 per link, that I was aware of. I'd recommend that you look into the Freq Converters made by Teletronics, in general we had found them to be pretty high quality converters, with no complaints. There are a couple of considerations to deploy. 1) when converting from a device that has a wide bandwdith to a channel that has a narrower limited bandwidth, you often have to use a single defined channel for that converter model. That obviously can reduce the flexibilty of changing channels on the fly. 2) Just like Amps, the Freq Conv are designed to receive input signal at a specified gain. And likewise should be used with a Radio that can output power at that specified level, to reduce creating distortion/noise. (Specs should be disclosed by the manufacturer.) 3) There is also a difference betweem DSSS and OFDM Freq Converters. Personally, I think its more critical to have a clean quality Freq Converter for OFDM, that typically will use QAM64 modulations, that are more sensitive to noise.. I think one of the exciting uses for Freq Converters might be to use it for converting your favorate 5.8Gear to 3.650Ghz. But we have never done it yet. Nor investigated legality of it for FCC approval I think the first question to ask, is why the Freq Converter is needed. Apposed to just buying the correct freq product in the first place. The answer to that first, might define what freq converter design would be right for you. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] frequency converters I always appreciate your input, have you tried them? I'd love to hear from someone that has and their experience. -RickG On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure there is any significant disadvantage. Other than the obvious, such as another point of failure, another connection to add loss, mild loss of energy in the conversion, additional cost. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] frequency converters Mike, Have you tried them? Anyone? -RickG On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noise? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:49 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] frequency converters Whats the downside to using frequency converters? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
