Re: [WISPA] Resurrect old Microwave paths back to cheaper bandwidth?
I've got gear on several of these towers in my area.Most are built like a brick sh**house. American Tower wanted to do an engineering study before they would let us put equipment on one of these, and I just laughed. You could drive a pickup up the side of the tower - I'm pretty sure that if the earth blows up, that tower will still be standing on the surface of the asteroid. Unfortunately, ownership is spread out between a lot of parties. American Tower has a few, some radio stations have bought others and there are a few that are semi-abandoned. Even so, the existence of the microwave links between towers is a good indicator of what the possibilities are. I have a 65 mile shot running from one of the old AT&T Long Lines towers to one of the old Western Union towers. Come to think of it, I have links on five of them (all adjacent) so I have a partially reconstituted LongLines/WU segment with live traffic on it! We have plans to be on three more this summer, so that will make 8. I have also found quite a few abandoned Air Force towers in our area (we are on three). They are a little weird - no ownership records at the county seats, and they were basically given to the landowners. I've managed to pick up a few towers cheap that were basically abandoned, but had useful LOS to other locations. One had to be lighted, but other than that they have all been in fairly good shape. There are a lot of towers out there, so doing long backhaul links between them is quite feasible, and with the cost of licensed backhauls coming down, it is certainly possible to bypass the telcos completely. I'm sitting at about 1300 miles of wireless backbone links right now, all coming back to two backbone locations on fiber. Who needs the telephone company? Matt Larsen vistabeam.com Brian Webster wrote: > I've been working on a consolidated map of the fiber available around > the country and was thinking about who would have infrastructure that would > be worth showing. As I was thinking it occurred to me that back in the day > fiber did not exist, Ma Bell did everything on microwave. So I dug around > the internet and found some interesting old maps. One is the old AT&T long > lines microwave network and the other is the old Western Union network. > If a few WISP's wanted to get together and start rebuilding these paths > from their areas back to a big city, the towers are mostly still in place > and some of them still have the dishes. We know the paths exist (many of > them were 6 GHz) and they are well documented for the original designs on > the net. American Tower owns many of the olds sites now so it should be easy > to lease the space. The paths all terminate in major telecom hubs so it > should be easy to get bandwidth. > Just thought I would put these out there as food for thought for the > WISP's who are trying to get a lot of bandwidth cheap in rural markets. > Maybe these old networks pass through your area.. Have fun! > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Resurrect old Microwave paths back to cheaper bandwidth?
Brian, A very intriguing and creative idea. Looking at those maps makes me appreciate all the work that was done by the early microwave engineers to make all those hops work and keep working... jack Brian Webster wrote: I've been working on a consolidated map of the fiber available around the country and was thinking about who would have infrastructure that would be worth showing. As I was thinking it occurred to me that back in the day fiber did not exist, Ma Bell did everything on microwave. So I dug around the internet and found some interesting old maps. One is the old AT&T long lines microwave network and the other is the old Western Union network. If a few WISP's wanted to get together and start rebuilding these paths from their areas back to a big city, the towers are mostly still in place and some of them still have the dishes. We know the paths exist (many of them were 6 GHz) and they are well documented for the original designs on the net. American Tower owns many of the olds sites now so it should be easy to lease the space. The paths all terminate in major telecom hubs so it should be easy to get bandwidth. Just thought I would put these out there as food for thought for the WISP's who are trying to get a lot of bandwidth cheap in rural markets. Maybe these old networks pass through your area.. Have fun! Thank You, Brian Webster WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" WISPs - Do you know where your customers are? For wireless coverage mapping see http://www.ask-wi.com/mapping FCC Lic. #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile Phone 818-227-4220 Email WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Resurrect old Microwave paths back to cheaper bandwidth?
These maps, and many more can be found at the wonderful resource by Albert LaFrance, www.long-lines.net Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Resurrect old Microwave paths back to cheaper bandwidth?
Back in 1999 AT&T sold to American tower 1942 of their microwave towers. Since then, over a quarter of them have been sold to other companies, and some have been removed. AT&T continues to own some of their towers, as does Vangard, Dukenet, and numerous smaller companies. Some areas lots of the towers have been sold to state agencies that will NOT co-locate private businesses, such as Missouri. Some have been outfitted for other uses, I know of one that is now a radar platform, and one which is in negotiations to have a restraunt on top. My point is, it may be pretty tough in a lot of areas to get much of a run. The leases alone if available would be a nightmare between all the different companies. MCI had a nationwide system, but again many of the routes are now broken up. I bought all the southern route from New Mexico to IL, and some of the towers are now removed, some are in state use, etc. The WU system has had many of those towers removed. Pipelines are another good source of links, but some still have removed many of their sites. The RBOC's had a lot of microwave routes also. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: "Brian Webster" To: "Motorola Canopy List" ; ; "WISPA List" Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: [WISPA] Resurrect old Microwave paths back to cheaper bandwidth? >I've been working on a consolidated map of the fiber available around > the country and was thinking about who would have infrastructure that > would > be worth showing. As I was thinking it occurred to me that back in the day > fiber did not exist, Ma Bell did everything on microwave. So I dug around > the internet and found some interesting old maps. One is the old AT&T long > lines microwave network and the other is the old Western Union network. >If a few WISP's wanted to get together and start rebuilding these paths > from their areas back to a big city, the towers are mostly still in place > and some of them still have the dishes. We know the paths exist (many of > them were 6 GHz) and they are well documented for the original designs on > the net. American Tower owns many of the olds sites now so it should be > easy > to lease the space. The paths all terminate in major telecom hubs so it > should be easy to get bandwidth. >Just thought I would put these out there as food for thought for the > WISP's who are trying to get a lot of bandwidth cheap in rural markets. > Maybe these old networks pass through your area.. Have fun! > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Old ATT towers
Who did you ask? It is still owned by AT&T Corp, totally different process than AT&T Wireless or ATC. The non-refundable application fee is only $2,500.00 If you want I can put you in touch with the right people. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Old ATT towers >I know the one shown as Colesville NJ is still there as of Monday! Never > was able to get a reply though about using it :( > > > > > In a message dated 4/2/2009 10:11:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > wireless-requ...@wispa.org writes: > > Send Wireless mailing list submissions to > wireless@wispa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wireless-requ...@wispa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wireless-ow...@wispa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wireless digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Resurrect old Microwave paths back to cheaper bandwidth? > (Brian Webster) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:51:18 -0400 > From: "Brian Webster" > Subject: [WISPA] Resurrect old Microwave paths back to cheaper > bandwidth? > To: "Motorola Canopy List" , , > "WISPA List" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I've been working on a consolidated map of the fiber available around > the country and was thinking about who would have infrastructure that > would > be worth showing. As I was thinking it occurred to me that back in the > day > fiber did not exist, Ma Bell did everything on microwave. So I dug around > the internet and found some interesting old maps. One is the old AT&T > long > lines microwave network and the other is the old Western Union network. > If a few WISP's wanted to get together and start rebuilding these paths > from their areas back to a big city, the towers are mostly still in place > and some of them still have the dishes. We know the paths exist (many of > them were 6 GHz) and they are well documented for the original designs on > the net. American Tower owns many of the olds sites now so it should be > easy > to lease the space. The paths all terminate in major telecom hubs so it > should be easy to get bandwidth. > Just thought I would put these out there as food for thought for the > WISP's who are trying to get a lot of bandwidth cheap in rural markets. > Maybe these old networks pass through your area.. Have fun! > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: AT&T Microwave routes 1960.jpg > Type: application/octet-stream > Size: 2195611 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/attachments/20090402/f1790b1b/attachment.obj > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: AT&T Microwave routes 1966.jpg > Type: application/octet-stream > Size: 698197 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail > /wireless/attachments/20090402/f1790b1b/attachment-0001.obj > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Western Union Microwave map 1977.jpg > Type: application/octet-stream > Size: 414219 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/attachments/20090402/f1790b1b/attachment-0002.obj > > -- > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > End of Wireless Digest, Vol 16, Issue 3 > *** > > > **New Low Prices on Dell Laptops – Starting at $399 > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433304x1201394525/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubl > eclick.net%2Fclk%3B213540718%3B35046385%3Be) > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >
Re: [WISPA] Resurrect old Microwave paths back to cheaper bandwidth?
These are terrific maps, Brian. Thanks for sharing! On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Brian Webster wrote: >I've been working on a consolidated map of the fiber available around > the country and was thinking about who would have infrastructure that would > be worth showing. As I was thinking it occurred to me that back in the day > fiber did not exist, Ma Bell did everything on microwave. So I dug around > the internet and found some interesting old maps. One is the old AT&T long > lines microwave network and the other is the old Western Union network. >If a few WISP's wanted to get together and start rebuilding these paths > from their areas back to a big city, the towers are mostly still in place > and some of them still have the dishes. We know the paths exist (many of > them were 6 GHz) and they are well documented for the original designs on > the net. American Tower owns many of the olds sites now so it should be > easy > to lease the space. The paths all terminate in major telecom hubs so it > should be easy to get bandwidth. >Just thought I would put these out there as food for thought for the > WISP's who are trying to get a lot of bandwidth cheap in rural markets. > Maybe these old networks pass through your area.. Have fun! > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC Sweeping Design LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Old ATT towers
I know the one shown as Colesville NJ is still there as of Monday! Never was able to get a reply though about using it :( In a message dated 4/2/2009 10:11:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wireless-requ...@wispa.org writes: Send Wireless mailing list submissions to wireless@wispa.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wireless-requ...@wispa.org You can reach the person managing the list at wireless-ow...@wispa.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wireless digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Resurrect old Microwave paths back to cheaper bandwidth? (Brian Webster) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:51:18 -0400 From: "Brian Webster" Subject: [WISPA] Resurrect old Microwave paths back to cheaper bandwidth? To: "Motorola Canopy List" , , "WISPA List" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I've been working on a consolidated map of the fiber available around the country and was thinking about who would have infrastructure that would be worth showing. As I was thinking it occurred to me that back in the day fiber did not exist, Ma Bell did everything on microwave. So I dug around the internet and found some interesting old maps. One is the old AT&T long lines microwave network and the other is the old Western Union network. If a few WISP's wanted to get together and start rebuilding these paths from their areas back to a big city, the towers are mostly still in place and some of them still have the dishes. We know the paths exist (many of them were 6 GHz) and they are well documented for the original designs on the net. American Tower owns many of the olds sites now so it should be easy to lease the space. The paths all terminate in major telecom hubs so it should be easy to get bandwidth. Just thought I would put these out there as food for thought for the WISP's who are trying to get a lot of bandwidth cheap in rural markets. Maybe these old networks pass through your area.. Have fun! Thank You, Brian Webster -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: AT&T Microwave routes 1960.jpg Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2195611 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/attachments/20090402/f1790b1b/attachment.obj -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: AT&T Microwave routes 1966.jpg Type: application/octet-stream Size: 698197 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail /wireless/attachments/20090402/f1790b1b/attachment-0001.obj -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Western Union Microwave map 1977.jpg Type: application/octet-stream Size: 414219 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/attachments/20090402/f1790b1b/attachment-0002.obj -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless End of Wireless Digest, Vol 16, Issue 3 *** **New Low Prices on Dell Laptops – Starting at $399 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433304x1201394525/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubl eclick.net%2Fclk%3B213540718%3B35046385%3Be) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] SLA and guaranteed bandwidth
For those of you that offer business class Internet and have customers that hold you to the speed you sell them, do you have any language in your SLA that protects the customer for those bandwidth rates? We have language that reimburses for outages but nothing specific to QOS or guaranteed bandwidth. We have always operated that way, just haven't had it in writing. Any help with that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Dylan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
No we just thumb tighten the nuts. The first few we put up years ago we tightened them down way too far. We even change the foam now if the cover gets removed. Ordered a quite a few just to keep some around. I also noticed that over a couple of years the foam doesn't quite spring back like it did new. Thanks for the input. We started running a bead of silicone across the top of the cover. We replaced all the cat5 cable on one of our towers yesterday and found one of three showed a water line about 1" up above the seal. Dave D. Ryan Spott wrote: > Let me guess, you are torquing down the plastic cover until it can be > torqued down no more! > > Use this method.. no tools required: > > *With left hand; Press down cover, compressing the foam, until it > touches the unit. Perform this right next to where the stud comes > through the cover. > *With right hand tighten nut with fingers until finger tight. > *Let go of cover with right hand. The foam should "spring back" with > just enough pressure to keep it compressed, but not too compressed. > *Repeat until done with all 4 nuts. > > After you do this for a while you can do it with one hand... or better > yet, you will know how much you should be tightening down the cover and > you can use a nut-driver. > > ryan > > David Hulsebus wrote: > >> The only issue I've had with Tranzeo are the cover and seal they use for >> the POE. We've followed their directions but have had issues with water >> seeping into a few units. We now drill small holes in the bottom of the >> cover to let them drain if needed. We got tired of climbing a tower to >> replace defective units after a few days of rain.. Has anyone else >> experienced this? They are the TR5a-20&24f series. >> >> Thanks, Dave Hulsebus >> Portative Technologies, LLC >> www.portative.com >> >> >> Steve Barnes wrote: >> >> >>> Very Nice Post Matt. I agree completely. Few reboots here and there but >>> rock solid 98% of the time. The cable boot issue that Matt is talking about >>> is that you can't have cables pre-crimped you have to feed the wire through >>> the boot then crimp the end on. Some other manufactures system had a >>> rubber grommet that will compress down enough that you can get the cable >>> through already crimped and tighten it after the fact. Takes an installer >>> 2 mistakes of having to cut ends off and redo to fix that from being a >>> problem. Tranzeo are good units. >>> >>> Steve Barnes >>> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:22 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community >>> >>> A few responses here: >>> >>> 1) You don't have to use Tranzeo APs with Tranzeo CPEs.The new >>> Tranzeo APs (EN-500 series) does have a lot more management features >>> than the older Tranzeo units (TR-6000, TR-5a). You can also use StarOS >>> or Mikrotik APs and have all the centralized management and advanced >>> features that you could possibly want for an 802.11 network. >>> 2) The older CPEs do need to be rebooted occasionally. The newer >>> units do not seem to have this same problem. >>> 3) I tend to disagree with comments that the cases are poorly >>> designed. The Tranzeo radios have substantial internal grounding and >>> have a very high degree of tolerance for environmental extremes, both >>> hot and cold. They are built like tanks compared to the PCB in a >>> plastic case design of the Ubiquiti and Motorola Canopy radios. The >>> cable boot is not that bad to work with, but they could be improved. >>> 4) Tranzeo is RUS approved. I would have to dig up the link, but I >>> did determine that they will qualify for RUS or stimulus financing. >>> 5) They work great for PTMP, and there are hundreds of thousands of >>> Tranzeos out in the field providing PTMP service to WISP customers. The >>> 2.4ghz models have the same limitations of all 802.11b gear, but the >>> 802.11a based gear is especially capable and a great value. >>> >>> Hope that helps. >>> >>> Matt Larsen >>> vistabeam.com >>> >>> >>> >>> 3-dB Networks wrote: >>> >>> >>> So are you looking to provide a muni Wi-Fi type setup? I have used and deployed a few hundred Tranzeo radios... they seem to play best with each other... there has been issues when mixing other clients with them. There is not going to be a central management system for them... which could be very problematic I have seen many issues with the management locking up, with a reboot being the only way to bring it back. Tranzeo may have worked past these issues by now. In my opinion their radio cases are poorly designed, but it helps make them cheap. Of note the cable boot
Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
A 6yo and 3yo (both in may) can do a box of 2000 in about the same amount of time. The things they do with tools in less time is truly scary. Daddy we fixed the door! Uhm, what was wrong with it? Our keys don't fit it now Yes, you do not have any keys for the door No, Grayson put glue in it The key hole was filled with 'Liquid Nails' in less then 5min. Moral Oral says you should never leave a loaded gun in your toolbox. D. Ryan Spott wrote: > My 6YO daughter disagrees with the no adhesive seals... She really, > really liked "daddy's stickers." I occasionally peel evidence of this > off the rear window of my truck. > > Now she plays with daddy's zip ties did you know a bag of 300 can be > zipped together by a 6 year old in less than 30 minutes?! > > ryan > > Steve Barnes wrote: > >> Ryan, so right on. I have had to drill this into my installers. It's a >> seal not an engine block, you don't need to torque it down. However you >> have to get it tight enough that ice sitting on top wont open it up. You >> also have to admit that the new no adhesive seals are better. >> >> Steve Barnes >> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott >> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 4:42 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community >> >> Let me guess, you are torquing down the plastic cover until it can be >> torqued down no more! >> >> Use this method.. no tools required: >> >> *With left hand; Press down cover, compressing the foam, until it >> touches the unit. Perform this right next to where the stud comes >> through the cover. >> *With right hand tighten nut with fingers until finger tight. >> *Let go of cover with right hand. The foam should "spring back" with >> just enough pressure to keep it compressed, but not too compressed. >> *Repeat until done with all 4 nuts. >> >> After you do this for a while you can do it with one hand... or better >> yet, you will know how much you should be tightening down the cover and >> you can use a nut-driver. >> >> ryan >> >> David Hulsebus wrote: >> >> >>> The only issue I've had with Tranzeo are the cover and seal they use for >>> the POE. We've followed their directions but have had issues with water >>> seeping into a few units. We now drill small holes in the bottom of the >>> cover to let them drain if needed. We got tired of climbing a tower to >>> replace defective units after a few days of rain.. Has anyone else >>> experienced this? They are the TR5a-20&24f series. >>> >>> Thanks, Dave Hulsebus >>> Portative Technologies, LLC >>> www.portative.com >>> >>> >>> Steve Barnes wrote: >>> >>> >>> Very Nice Post Matt. I agree completely. Few reboots here and there but rock solid 98% of the time. The cable boot issue that Matt is talking about is that you can't have cables pre-crimped you have to feed the wire through the boot then crimp the end on. Some other manufactures system had a rubber grommet that will compress down enough that you can get the cable through already crimped and tighten it after the fact. Takes an installer 2 mistakes of having to cut ends off and redo to fix that from being a problem. Tranzeo are good units. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community A few responses here: 1) You don't have to use Tranzeo APs with Tranzeo CPEs.The new Tranzeo APs (EN-500 series) does have a lot more management features than the older Tranzeo units (TR-6000, TR-5a). You can also use StarOS or Mikrotik APs and have all the centralized management and advanced features that you could possibly want for an 802.11 network. 2) The older CPEs do need to be rebooted occasionally. The newer units do not seem to have this same problem. 3) I tend to disagree with comments that the cases are poorly designed. The Tranzeo radios have substantial internal grounding and have a very high degree of tolerance for environmental extremes, both hot and cold. They are built like tanks compared to the PCB in a plastic case design of the Ubiquiti and Motorola Canopy radios. The cable boot is not that bad to work with, but they could be improved. 4) Tranzeo is RUS approved. I would have to dig up the link, but I did determine that they will qualify for RUS or stimulus financing. 5) They work great for PTMP, and there are hundreds of thousands of Tranzeos out in the field providing
