Re: [WISPA] Bullets

2009-06-27 Thread RickG
I've gotten them from several different sources. Does it matter?
-RickG

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Michael Baird wrote:
> Where did you get them? We've returned defective units without issue to
> Ubiquity. They are very responsive. Have you asked these questions in
> their forums? Their testers/rma guys look at every post, and will
> probably tell you where to get the parts you request, supp...@ubnt.com
> is also monitored.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
>> They have for me. I suppose they wouldnt if it were obvious such as
>> with burn marks, etc. I will say one thing, their RMA process is slow.
>> They must be busy.
>> -RickG
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 5:44 PM,
>> jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
>>
>>> Will they cover damage caused by power issues? I can not see them doing it.
>>>
>>> As far as I have been able to find, no, the caps/plugs are not sold.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> RickG wrote:
>>>
 Since they've only been out since December, I'd assume all Bullets are
 still under manufacturers warranty?

 But, while on the subject - Is it possible to get the end caps and plugs?

 -RickG

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:11 PM,
 jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:

> Anyone have some dead bullets they will sell? I am in need or 2 or 3 
> (mainly the
> end caps)
>
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Re: [WISPA] Bullets

2009-06-27 Thread Michael Baird
Where did you get them? We've returned defective units without issue to 
Ubiquity. They are very responsive. Have you asked these questions in 
their forums? Their testers/rma guys look at every post, and will 
probably tell you where to get the parts you request, supp...@ubnt.com 
is also monitored.

Regards
Michael Baird
> They have for me. I suppose they wouldnt if it were obvious such as
> with burn marks, etc. I will say one thing, their RMA process is slow.
> They must be busy.
> -RickG
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 5:44 PM,
> jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
>   
>> Will they cover damage caused by power issues? I can not see them doing it.
>>
>> As far as I have been able to find, no, the caps/plugs are not sold.
>>
>>
>>
>> RickG wrote:
>> 
>>> Since they've only been out since December, I'd assume all Bullets are
>>> still under manufacturers warranty?
>>>
>>> But, while on the subject - Is it possible to get the end caps and plugs?
>>>
>>> -RickG
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:11 PM,
>>> jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
>>>   
 Anyone have some dead bullets they will sell? I am in need or 2 or 3 
 (mainly the
 end caps)

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Re: [WISPA] Bullets

2009-06-27 Thread RickG
They have for me. I suppose they wouldnt if it were obvious such as
with burn marks, etc. I will say one thing, their RMA process is slow.
They must be busy.
-RickG

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 5:44 PM,
jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
> Will they cover damage caused by power issues? I can not see them doing it.
>
> As far as I have been able to find, no, the caps/plugs are not sold.
>
>
>
> RickG wrote:
>> Since they've only been out since December, I'd assume all Bullets are
>> still under manufacturers warranty?
>>
>> But, while on the subject - Is it possible to get the end caps and plugs?
>>
>> -RickG
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:11 PM,
>> jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
>>> Anyone have some dead bullets they will sell? I am in need or 2 or 3 
>>> (mainly the
>>> end caps)
>>>
>>> Jeromie
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Re: [WISPA] Bullets

2009-06-27 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
Will they cover damage caused by power issues? I can not see them doing it.

As far as I have been able to find, no, the caps/plugs are not sold.



RickG wrote:
> Since they've only been out since December, I'd assume all Bullets are
> still under manufacturers warranty?
> 
> But, while on the subject - Is it possible to get the end caps and plugs?
> 
> -RickG
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:11 PM,
> jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
>> Anyone have some dead bullets they will sell? I am in need or 2 or 3 (mainly 
>> the
>> end caps)
>>
>> Jeromie
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-27 Thread os10rules
Thanks! Now I get it. But the 60/55 degree rating is just where the  
power drops 3db right? There must be a lot of bleed over between the  
sectors where the signal from one or more AP is strong. What happens  
when a client see two APs with the same level? Does the 802.11a/b/g/n  
protocol handle that out without switching back and forth which AP  
it's associated with? I imagine it could be like the routing issue  
called "flapping".

Greg
On Jun 27, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Doug Ratcliffe wrote:

> Half array (a full array would be 6 of each, NS2 and NS5).  I'm only
> covering 180 degrees because the other direction is a lot of trees  
> and the
> business & condo district is on the side that's covered.  Each NS2/ 
> NS5 is
> approx. 60 degrees (55 or so?) so it takes 3 to cover 180 degrees.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 3:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?
>
>
>> Doug,
>>
>> I don't understand the term "half array" (yes, I googled it), also
>> why would you use three of each to cover only 180 degrees?
>>
>> Greg
>> On Jun 27, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Doug Ratcliffe wrote:
>>
>>> We're using a half array (3 NS2, 3 NS5's) to do 180 degree coverage
>>> of an
>>> area, we get solid links 4 miles away.  One link at 2.5 miles to a
>>> Mikrotik
>>> board gets a -58 signal level.  We use 10mhz channels in 5ghz and
>>> 20mhz in
>>> 2ghz.  We don't have enough clients on it yet to really give a good
>>> indication of interference, but it works.  We built our own Canopy-
>>> style
>>> cluster mount out of steel that gives each unit about 2.5 feet of
>>> horizontal
>>> separation.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?
>>>
>>>
 I would also be interested to know if anyone has deployed NS2's  
 in a
 sectorized AP configuration and what results were seen. Could one  
 use
 full power (channels 1,6,11) with little horizontal separation  
 and no
 vertical separation? Would vertical separation be mandatory?

 Greg
 On Jun 27, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Robert West wrote:

> Had to add that the nanostation2 has adaptive polarization, will
> operate in
> both vertical and horizontal and will switch back and forth
> depending on the
> signal.  Unless of course you use an external antenna which can  
> plug
> into
> the SMA connector it has just for that purpose.  Out of all the
> things cheap
> in this business, that NS2 is a winner.
>
> A question though, has anyone used the NS2 setup as sector for a
> mini-pop?
> We have a bit of a hole we can go down into and thought about
> setting up
> some NS2's in a sector configuration.  Haven't looked at it  
> close at
> all
> though, dunno about how they would mess with each other.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> ]
> On
> Behalf Of Jon Auer
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:50 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?
>
> We have 12 deployed as outdoor Hotspot APs and they have been
> flawless
> for over a year.
>
>
> On 6/26/09, Charles Wyble  wrote:
>> I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.
>>
>> What do folks say?
>>
>> I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to
>> point
>> configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.
>>
>> I'm planning to do some pretty serious stress testing on it and  
>> see
>> if I
>> can break it.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Iirc the NS is 90 degrees.

On 6/27/09, Doug Ratcliffe  wrote:
> Half array (a full array would be 6 of each, NS2 and NS5).  I'm only
> covering 180 degrees because the other direction is a lot of trees and the
> business & condo district is on the side that's covered.  Each NS2/NS5 is
> approx. 60 degrees (55 or so?) so it takes 3 to cover 180 degrees.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 3:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?
>
>
>> Doug,
>>
>> I don't understand the term "half array" (yes, I googled it), also
>> why would you use three of each to cover only 180 degrees?
>>
>> Greg
>> On Jun 27, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Doug Ratcliffe wrote:
>>
>>> We're using a half array (3 NS2, 3 NS5's) to do 180 degree coverage
>>> of an
>>> area, we get solid links 4 miles away.  One link at 2.5 miles to a
>>> Mikrotik
>>> board gets a -58 signal level.  We use 10mhz channels in 5ghz and
>>> 20mhz in
>>> 2ghz.  We don't have enough clients on it yet to really give a good
>>> indication of interference, but it works.  We built our own Canopy-
>>> style
>>> cluster mount out of steel that gives each unit about 2.5 feet of
>>> horizontal
>>> separation.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?
>>>
>>>
 I would also be interested to know if anyone has deployed NS2's in a
 sectorized AP configuration and what results were seen. Could one use
 full power (channels 1,6,11) with little horizontal separation and no
 vertical separation? Would vertical separation be mandatory?

 Greg
 On Jun 27, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Robert West wrote:

> Had to add that the nanostation2 has adaptive polarization, will
> operate in
> both vertical and horizontal and will switch back and forth
> depending on the
> signal.  Unless of course you use an external antenna which can plug
> into
> the SMA connector it has just for that purpose.  Out of all the
> things cheap
> in this business, that NS2 is a winner.
>
> A question though, has anyone used the NS2 setup as sector for a
> mini-pop?
> We have a bit of a hole we can go down into and thought about
> setting up
> some NS2's in a sector configuration.  Haven't looked at it close at
> all
> though, dunno about how they would mess with each other.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Jon Auer
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:50 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?
>
> We have 12 deployed as outdoor Hotspot APs and they have been
> flawless
> for over a year.
>
>
> On 6/26/09, Charles Wyble  wrote:
>> I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.
>>
>> What do folks say?
>>
>> I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to
>> point
>> configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.
>>
>> I'm planning to do some pretty serious stress testing on it and see
>> if I
>> can break it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>>> Please contact offlist.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-27 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
Half array (a full array would be 6 of each, NS2 and NS5).  I'm only 
covering 180 degrees because the other direction is a lot of trees and the 
business & condo district is on the side that's covered.  Each NS2/NS5 is 
approx. 60 degrees (55 or so?) so it takes 3 to cover 180 degrees.

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?


> Doug,
>
> I don't understand the term "half array" (yes, I googled it), also
> why would you use three of each to cover only 180 degrees?
>
> Greg
> On Jun 27, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Doug Ratcliffe wrote:
>
>> We're using a half array (3 NS2, 3 NS5's) to do 180 degree coverage
>> of an
>> area, we get solid links 4 miles away.  One link at 2.5 miles to a
>> Mikrotik
>> board gets a -58 signal level.  We use 10mhz channels in 5ghz and
>> 20mhz in
>> 2ghz.  We don't have enough clients on it yet to really give a good
>> indication of interference, but it works.  We built our own Canopy-
>> style
>> cluster mount out of steel that gives each unit about 2.5 feet of
>> horizontal
>> separation.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?
>>
>>
>>> I would also be interested to know if anyone has deployed NS2's in a
>>> sectorized AP configuration and what results were seen. Could one use
>>> full power (channels 1,6,11) with little horizontal separation and no
>>> vertical separation? Would vertical separation be mandatory?
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> On Jun 27, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Robert West wrote:
>>>
 Had to add that the nanostation2 has adaptive polarization, will
 operate in
 both vertical and horizontal and will switch back and forth
 depending on the
 signal.  Unless of course you use an external antenna which can plug
 into
 the SMA connector it has just for that purpose.  Out of all the
 things cheap
 in this business, that NS2 is a winner.

 A question though, has anyone used the NS2 setup as sector for a
 mini-pop?
 We have a bit of a hole we can go down into and thought about
 setting up
 some NS2's in a sector configuration.  Haven't looked at it close at
 all
 though, dunno about how they would mess with each other.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Jon Auer
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:50 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

 We have 12 deployed as outdoor Hotspot APs and they have been
 flawless
 for over a year.


 On 6/26/09, Charles Wyble  wrote:
> I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.
>
> What do folks say?
>
> I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to
> point
> configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.
>
> I'm planning to do some pretty serious stress testing on it and see
> if I
> can break it.
>
>
>
> Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>> Please contact offlist.
>>
>> Brian
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-27 Thread os10rules
Doug,

I don't understand the term "half array" (yes, I googled it), also  
why would you use three of each to cover only 180 degrees?

Greg
On Jun 27, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Doug Ratcliffe wrote:

> We're using a half array (3 NS2, 3 NS5's) to do 180 degree coverage  
> of an
> area, we get solid links 4 miles away.  One link at 2.5 miles to a  
> Mikrotik
> board gets a -58 signal level.  We use 10mhz channels in 5ghz and  
> 20mhz in
> 2ghz.  We don't have enough clients on it yet to really give a good
> indication of interference, but it works.  We built our own Canopy- 
> style
> cluster mount out of steel that gives each unit about 2.5 feet of  
> horizontal
> separation.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?
>
>
>> I would also be interested to know if anyone has deployed NS2's in a
>> sectorized AP configuration and what results were seen. Could one use
>> full power (channels 1,6,11) with little horizontal separation and no
>> vertical separation? Would vertical separation be mandatory?
>>
>> Greg
>> On Jun 27, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Robert West wrote:
>>
>>> Had to add that the nanostation2 has adaptive polarization, will
>>> operate in
>>> both vertical and horizontal and will switch back and forth
>>> depending on the
>>> signal.  Unless of course you use an external antenna which can plug
>>> into
>>> the SMA connector it has just for that purpose.  Out of all the
>>> things cheap
>>> in this business, that NS2 is a winner.
>>>
>>> A question though, has anyone used the NS2 setup as sector for a
>>> mini-pop?
>>> We have a bit of a hole we can go down into and thought about
>>> setting up
>>> some NS2's in a sector configuration.  Haven't looked at it close at
>>> all
>>> though, dunno about how they would mess with each other.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Jon Auer
>>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:50 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?
>>>
>>> We have 12 deployed as outdoor Hotspot APs and they have been  
>>> flawless
>>> for over a year.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/26/09, Charles Wyble  wrote:
 I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.

 What do folks say?

 I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to
 point
 configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.

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 if I
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[WISPA] SBA ARC Loans

2009-06-27 Thread Charles Wu
As a non-bank financial institution, we (IP Pay side) are investigating the 
possibility of offering this product to help pay off newly "qualifying" debts 
to the CTI side of the business =)

Would there be any interest in the WISP community?

SBA ARC Loan Program

If your small business is stressed meeting expenses during these economic 
times, the U.S. Small Business Administration has a new loan program designed 
just for you. 

SBA's America's Recovery Capital Loan Program can provide up to $35,000 in 
short-term relief for viable small businesses facing immediate financial 
hardship to help ride out the current uncertain economic times and return to 
profitability.  Each small business is limited to one ARC loan.

ARC loans can be used to make payments of principal and interest, in full or in 
part, on one or more existing, qualifying small business loans for up to six 
months. ARC loans provide an immediate infusion of capital to small businesses 
to assist with making payments of principal and interest on existing debt.  
These loans allow borrowers to redirect cash flow from making loan payments to 
investing in their businesses, to help sustain the business and retain jobs.  
For example, making loan payments on existing loans with proceeds from an ARC 
loan can allow a business to focus more funds on core operations, such as 
buying inventory or making payroll. 

ARC loans are interest-free to the borrower and require no fees paid to SBA.  
Loan proceeds are provided over a six-month period and repayment of the ARC 
loan principal is deferred for 12 months after the last disbursement of the 
proceeds.  Repayment can extend up to five years.

http://www.sba.gov/recovery/arcloanprogram/index.html

Let me know your thoughts

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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-27 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
We're using a half array (3 NS2, 3 NS5's) to do 180 degree coverage of an 
area, we get solid links 4 miles away.  One link at 2.5 miles to a Mikrotik 
board gets a -58 signal level.  We use 10mhz channels in 5ghz and 20mhz in 
2ghz.  We don't have enough clients on it yet to really give a good 
indication of interference, but it works.  We built our own Canopy-style 
cluster mount out of steel that gives each unit about 2.5 feet of horizontal 
separation.


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>I would also be interested to know if anyone has deployed NS2's in a
> sectorized AP configuration and what results were seen. Could one use
> full power (channels 1,6,11) with little horizontal separation and no
> vertical separation? Would vertical separation be mandatory?
>
> Greg
> On Jun 27, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Robert West wrote:
>
>> Had to add that the nanostation2 has adaptive polarization, will
>> operate in
>> both vertical and horizontal and will switch back and forth
>> depending on the
>> signal.  Unless of course you use an external antenna which can plug
>> into
>> the SMA connector it has just for that purpose.  Out of all the
>> things cheap
>> in this business, that NS2 is a winner.
>>
>> A question though, has anyone used the NS2 setup as sector for a
>> mini-pop?
>> We have a bit of a hole we can go down into and thought about
>> setting up
>> some NS2's in a sector configuration.  Haven't looked at it close at
>> all
>> though, dunno about how they would mess with each other.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Jon Auer
>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:50 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?
>>
>> We have 12 deployed as outdoor Hotspot APs and they have been flawless
>> for over a year.
>>
>>
>> On 6/26/09, Charles Wyble  wrote:
>>> I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.
>>>
>>> What do folks say?
>>>
>>> I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to
>>> point
>>> configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.
>>>
>>> I'm planning to do some pretty serious stress testing on it and see
>>> if I
>>> can break it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-27 Thread Michael Baird
PS2 has an ethernet jack (two), and a reset jack, no external antenna 
connector without the PS2-external model.

I just answered the question posed, they are the same hardware and run 
the same os, they offer the same reliability. We've also deployed a 
number of both, no difference's, other then the range because of the 
antenna.

NS2 - AR5315 - http://www.atheros.com/pt/AR5006AP-G.htm - no SuperG.
PS2 - AR5316 - http://www.atheros.com/pt/AR5006AP-GS.htm
BulletHP - AR5317 - http://www.atheros.com/pt/AR5007AP-G.htm

Regards
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> NS2 has an ethernet port, sma jack and a reset switch.  Note that with
> my unit deployed I had to reboot it minutes after I held the reset
> switch...
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>> I don't think the NS2 has the second ethernet port..
>>
>> Michael Baird wrote:
>> 
>>> Same OS, same chipset, same radio ns2/ps2, only difference is the
>>> antenna size and case.
>>>
>>> Regards
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 I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.

 What do folks say?

 I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to point
 configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.

 I'm planning to do some pretty serious stress testing on it and see if I
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-27 Thread Josh Luthman
NS2 has an ethernet port, sma jack and a reset switch.  Note that with
my unit deployed I had to reboot it minutes after I held the reset
switch...

On 6/27/09, Brian Rohrbacher  wrote:
> I don't think the NS2 has the second ethernet port..
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> Michael Baird wrote:
>>
>> Same OS, same chipset, same radio ns2/ps2, only difference is the
>> antenna size and case.
>>
>> Regards
>> Michael Baird
>>
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>>> I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.
>>>
>>> What do folks say?
>>>
>>> I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to point
>>> configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.
>>>
>>> I'm planning to do some pretty serious stress testing on it and see if I
>>> can break it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
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Re: [WISPA] Bullets

2009-06-27 Thread Josh Luthman
JFGI!

On 6/27/09, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> Whats BLM?
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> Dead ones wont help in Iran :)
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>> If your in Iran, you could probably use both.
>>
>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> We talking copper or Ubiquiti..?
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>>> On 6/26/09, jree...@18-30chat.net  wrote:
 Anyone have some dead bullets they will sell? I am in need or 2 or 3
>
 (mainly the end caps)

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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-27 Thread os10rules
I would also be interested to know if anyone has deployed NS2's in a  
sectorized AP configuration and what results were seen. Could one use  
full power (channels 1,6,11) with little horizontal separation and no  
vertical separation? Would vertical separation be mandatory?

Greg
On Jun 27, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Robert West wrote:

> Had to add that the nanostation2 has adaptive polarization, will  
> operate in
> both vertical and horizontal and will switch back and forth  
> depending on the
> signal.  Unless of course you use an external antenna which can plug  
> into
> the SMA connector it has just for that purpose.  Out of all the  
> things cheap
> in this business, that NS2 is a winner.
>
> A question though, has anyone used the NS2 setup as sector for a  
> mini-pop?
> We have a bit of a hole we can go down into and thought about  
> setting up
> some NS2's in a sector configuration.  Haven't looked at it close at  
> all
> though, dunno about how they would mess with each other.
>
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> Behalf Of Jon Auer
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:50 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?
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> We have 12 deployed as outdoor Hotspot APs and they have been flawless
> for over a year.
>
>
> On 6/26/09, Charles Wyble  wrote:
>> I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.
>>
>> What do folks say?
>>
>> I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to  
>> point
>> configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.
>>
>> I'm planning to do some pretty serious stress testing on it and see  
>> if I
>> can break it.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-27 Thread Robert West
Had to add that the nanostation2 has adaptive polarization, will operate in
both vertical and horizontal and will switch back and forth depending on the
signal.  Unless of course you use an external antenna which can plug into
the SMA connector it has just for that purpose.  Out of all the things cheap
in this business, that NS2 is a winner.  

A question though, has anyone used the NS2 setup as sector for a mini-pop?
We have a bit of a hole we can go down into and thought about setting up
some NS2's in a sector configuration.  Haven't looked at it close at all
though, dunno about how they would mess with each other.



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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

We have 12 deployed as outdoor Hotspot APs and they have been flawless
for over a year.


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> I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.
>
> What do folks say?
>
> I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to point
> configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.
>
> I'm planning to do some pretty serious stress testing on it and see if I
> can break it.
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-27 Thread Robert West
We use a hosting service for our domain (no need to run a webserver anymore)
and it's a shared hosting account that will allow me to add email if I want.
They scan for the virus's, they do the backup, etc.  The cost is 100 bucks a
year and rarely a headache.  Being a shared hosting service, we can also add
domains to it.  Say, a business signs up and they have no email for the
business setup and no website.  We can offer to setup a domain, vanity email
for their business and they can have a nice little website.  The cost for us
is nothing since it's a shared hosting account and we can charge a little
more for the service of setting it up.  For that 100 bucks a year, we have
16 business customers on the shared host all with their own @whatever email
addresses and a website if they want it.  They take care of their own
password changes and all, we just enter the information when it's first
setup.  They can also add and change or whatever to their site if they
please.  Easy money on all that at least.

I try to do what's practical for us and with less hassle.  The less people
we have to have on staff the better and this simple 100 bucks a year easily
saves us one person on staff.

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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 12:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

I have thought about this many times as well. I couldnt make a clean
break so I practically keep it a secret that we offer it. They only
get our email if they ask. Now, if we can drop the electrical
storms!!!
-RickG

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Robert West
wrote:
> Email?  We don't need no stinkin' email!
>
> We gave up email hosting.  We were sending invoices via email and lots of
> the customers were never getting them because they never used the email
> address we gave them, they were mostly using Yahoo online!  The user
> accounts were jammed packed of just junk mail and such because they never
> grabbed mail from their box.  Well!  After some thought, we stopped giving
> out email addresses and giving them a list of free email sites such as
Gmail
> and yahoo.  ("In an effort to keep our prices as friendly as we can.
> blah, blah, blah.)  We grandfathered the existing users and hosted
them
> but eventually they all moved to the free providers also.  So now what?
 No
> more support calls on the email, I can tell ya that!  More than half of
our
> trouble tickets went away.  I no longer have to recite to grandma how to
> reenter her user name and password just because the grandkids wiped it out
> of her incredimail.  YES!!!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:33 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
>
> Hi All,
>
> What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
> reliability, ease of use etc.
>
> Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't
catch
> things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This
has
> now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
>
> My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
> limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang
off
>
> the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.
>
> The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
> 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
> address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not
even
>
> mine (faked info).  sigh
>
> We use Courier MTA.
>
> My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day
per
> user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
messages
> received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all
those
>
> sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
> the server admins.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> laters,
> marlon
>
>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-27 Thread Robert West
And that would be perfect for us if they would just use our domain for their
mail but around here they are all Yahooaholics.  If it ain't yahoo, they
ain't a usin' it!  But seriously, for us the usage was just not there and
the ones that were using it were ones who needed hand holding for every
simple step in everything computers.  I have no problem educating and
helping when there is a problem, I used to teach all this new fangled
computer and internets at the local college so I'm used to it all, however
it was really eating up too much cash for so little utilization.  

I saw the other day one of the big dial up ISP's were using the G-mail for
ISPs but I can't remember which one it was.  It was setup in outlook
express.  The only reason I saw it was we also have a computer repair shop
and a repair customer had it on their PC.  



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

I almost feel the same way too.
But a funny thing is, some of our customers like our email. It never has 
virus, and we have a spam filter provider that sends a daily quarantine 
report and those emails never make it to my server.
So for the most part, everything is great till we get blacklisted.
And a nice thing is, it's free advertising that you just can't buy.

When I see some of the emails people send to their groups cc'd and not 
bcc'd, and I see my domain in the bulk of those emails, I know other 
people do too that don't use my service.
When they get tired of poor support from their isp, like charter or 
qwest, they already know we are serving their friends and find their way 
to us.

We get a lot of word of mouth advertising that way.

RickG wrote:
> I have thought about this many times as well. I couldnt make a clean
> break so I practically keep it a secret that we offer it. They only
> get our email if they ask. Now, if we can drop the electrical
> storms!!!
> -RickG
> 
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Robert West
wrote:
>> Email?  We don't need no stinkin' email!
>>
>> We gave up email hosting.  We were sending invoices via email and lots of
>> the customers were never getting them because they never used the email
>> address we gave them, they were mostly using Yahoo online!  The user
>> accounts were jammed packed of just junk mail and such because they never
>> grabbed mail from their box.  Well!  After some thought, we stopped
giving
>> out email addresses and giving them a list of free email sites such as
Gmail
>> and yahoo.  ("In an effort to keep our prices as friendly as we can.
>> blah, blah, blah.)  We grandfathered the existing users and hosted
them
>> but eventually they all moved to the free providers also.  So now what?
No
>> more support calls on the email, I can tell ya that!  More than half of
our
>> trouble tickets went away.  I no longer have to recite to grandma how to
>> reenter her user name and password just because the grandkids wiped it
out
>> of her incredimail.  YES!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:33 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
>> reliability, ease of use etc.
>>
>> Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't
catch
>> things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This
has
>> now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
>>
>> My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
>> limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang
off
>>
>> the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.
>>
>> The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up
to
>> 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
>> address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not
even
>>
>> mine (faked info).  sigh
>>
>> We use Courier MTA.
>>
>> My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day
per
>> user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
messages
>> received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all
those
>>
>> sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response
from
>> the server admins.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> laters,
>> marlon
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-27 Thread Robert West
The PowerStation2 has a second Ethernet port but the PowerStation5 does not.
Obviously, you would want to use the PS2 with the external connections for
the hotspot and the one with the panel antenna for the point to point.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 8:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

 

I don't think the NS2 has the second ethernet port..

Michael Baird wrote: 

Same OS, same chipset, same radio ns2/ps2, only difference is the 
antenna size and case.
 
Regards
Michael Baird
  

I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.
 
What do folks say?
 
I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to point 
configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.
 
I'm planning to do some pretty serious stress testing on it and see if I 
can break it.
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-27 Thread Brian Rohrbacher




I don't think the NS2 has the second ethernet port..

Michael Baird wrote:

  Same OS, same chipset, same radio ns2/ps2, only difference is the 
antenna size and case.

Regards
Michael Baird
  
  
I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.

What do folks say?

I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to point 
configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.

I'm planning to do some pretty serious stress testing on it and see if I 
can break it.



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Re: [WISPA] Bullets

2009-06-27 Thread Gino Villarini
Whats BLM? 


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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 12:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullets

Dead ones wont help in Iran :)
-RickG

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Charles Wyble
wrote:
> If your in Iran, you could probably use both.
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> We talking copper or Ubiquiti..?
>>
>> On 6/26/09, jree...@18-30chat.net  wrote:
>>> Anyone have some dead bullets they will sell? I am in need or 2 or 3

>>> (mainly the end caps)
>>>
>>> Jeromie
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-27 Thread Michael Baird
Same OS, same chipset, same radio ns2/ps2, only difference is the 
antenna size and case.

Regards
Michael Baird
> I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.
>
> What do folks say?
>
> I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to point 
> configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.
>
> I'm planning to do some pretty serious stress testing on it and see if I 
> can break it.
>
>
>
> Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>   
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