Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

2009-08-23 Thread Blair Davis




5Mb, and 5 min to spin up...

Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on?

Chuck Bartosch wrote:

  Yeah, I remember getting my first one. Felt guilty as hell splurging  
on that 10 MB version instead of the 5 MB-or instead of just using the  
perfectly fine second floppy drive. My (now ex-) wife was very  
supportive though...and said "oh, you should get it". So I did.  
Graduate students only made like $2/hour back then. Unless you counted  
all 90 hours we were expected to put in. In that case it was a bit  
less per hour...

...too bad the kids had to starve though to pay for that first hard  
drive...

Chuck


On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:39 PM, Robert West wrote:

  
  
10mb hard drive?  What the heck would you have that would take up  
that much
room?  Overindulgence in the high tech goodies, I'm afraid.  You  
need to
rethink your priorities.





-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

You got 5.25" floppies. We havent upgraded from the 8" units!
Considered cassette tapes but now thinking about dropping floppies 
tape and going straight to a winchester hard drive. I hear they are up
to 10MB!

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com 

wrote:


  We upgraded our systems a few years ago.  We ran abacus 1.0 for  
years but
  

it


  got to where we were having to add more rows of wooden balls and I  
kept
losing my place.  So, we opened up the wallet and plunked down 6  
bucks (I
was able to talk them down from 7) for the recent IBM ps/2 running  
PC-DOS
3.2 and SuperCalc on dual 5.25" floppies.  We have no need for 640k  
and
frankly I wasn't about to spend the additional 75 cents the thrift  
store
salesperson wanted to charge us.  Running with 384k seems to do the  
job
  

for


  us.  I looked at windows 286 but I wasn't sure how long that  
company would
be around so we just saved the cash.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

LOL! Did you have to upgrade from DOS1.1 to 3.2 so the OS will see
memory above 640k? When you need multi-tasking, you can do a
technology leapfrog from Windows 286 to 3.1!
-RickG

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com 
  
  wrote:
  
  
We use a Sextant and a compass to do our site surveys at night.   
No need

  
  for
  
  
such fancy foo-foo apps!  The sextant is all a man will ever need  
and

  

then


  
some!  We then plug the numbers we get into our IBM ps/2 computer  
running
DOS 3.2 and viola!  Our exact position give or take a couple of  
miles.

Fellow Luddites, rise up and cast off this oppressive technology!   
(But
leave my internets alone!)

Bob-




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

Any one has used the pUniverse App?

You just point it to the sky and it puts a realtime image  overlay  
0f
all the stars...

How I wish I had a similar app for my towers!!!

Site Surveys would be a piece of cake!

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

Yep, we all have iPhones as well.  The GPS/Compass built in makes it
easier for them to find towers/repeaters.  Also, during Site  
Surveys,
they have the exact GPS coordinates of where the test was done.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than  
pick
an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all.

In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone
from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to  
the
guy on the ground. Anyway, the phone survived the fall after he put
the pieces back together. It does have a small dent. But he didn't
even have to bring it 

Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

2009-08-23 Thread Blake Bowers
Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer.

And then along came FIDONET.  I sure miss that.


Don't take your organs to heaven, 
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. 

- Original Message - 
From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?


 5Mb, and 5 min to spin up...
 
 Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on?
 




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Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

2009-08-23 Thread Robert West
Sheesh!  I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes.
Man, that was livin'.

I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5
floppy backup set.  Ran it on an IBM XT 286.  Speed, brother!  All about the
speed!




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer.

And then along came FIDONET.  I sure miss that.


Don't take your organs to heaven, 
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. 

- Original Message - 
From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?


 5Mb, and 5 min to spin up...
 
 Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on?
 





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Re: [WISPA] VPN's

2009-08-23 Thread can...@believewireless.net
No one has complained about this from us in years, but when we had
some customers on Trango gear, Citrix would always drop.  Since we
started using gear that has ARQ, we haven't heard a peep from anyone
about this.

Citrix is VERY sensitive to dropped packets and I believe their was
some posts on DSL Reports several years ago on what Citrix
administrators could do to lessen this but don't remember any of the
specifics.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Josh
Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 That's not a VPN.  I know MS terminal services works on dial-up.

 If he is having issues with that my first place I would look is the
 server not responding in time.

 Can you setup a Windows box for a few days next to your core so that
 the customer can remote into it?

 On 8/22/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 This one is Citrix. Another used the built-in Windows version.

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Josh
 Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 What type of VPN?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:59 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 Need some tips on VPN's. I know I've got many people who VPN to their
 offices with little or no trouble. But, I've had a few that had
 nothing but problems (dropped connections). I've got one now that is
 complaining but his connection is very strong (pings without loss avg
 2ms direct from AP and 7ms from my MT firewall). MT Ping speed test
 shows a fairly consistant 3Mbps. He is 3 hops out. Equipment is
 WRAP2E/StarOS AP, Tranzeo CPQ-19 CPE. Any ideas?
 -RickG



 
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Re: [WISPA] VPN's

2009-08-23 Thread Mike
Ran into the Citrix problem a long time ago.  Most data programs are 
sensitive to dropped packets.  The problem with Citrix is that the 
packets were small.  The program was written to work as a database 
across a local area network.  Once WANs became common and the 
databases were centralized I think the programmers modified the 
code.  Is someone running an old LAN version of Citrix?


At 08:02 AM 8/23/2009, you wrote:
No one has complained about this from us in years, but when we had
some customers on Trango gear, Citrix would always drop.  Since we
started using gear that has ARQ, we haven't heard a peep from anyone
about this.

Citrix is VERY sensitive to dropped packets and I believe their was
some posts on DSL Reports several years ago on what Citrix
administrators could do to lessen this but don't remember any of the
specifics.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Josh
Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
  That's not a VPN.  I know MS terminal services works on dial-up.
 
  If he is having issues with that my first place I would look is the
  server not responding in time.
 
  Can you setup a Windows box for a few days next to your core so that
  the customer can remote into it?
 
  On 8/22/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
  This one is Citrix. Another used the built-in Windows version.
 
  On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Josh
  Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
  What type of VPN?
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:59 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Need some tips on VPN's. I know I've got many people who VPN to their
  offices with little or no trouble. But, I've had a few that had
  nothing but problems (dropped connections). I've got one now that is
  complaining but his connection is very strong (pings without loss avg
  2ms direct from AP and 7ms from my MT firewall). MT Ping speed test
  shows a fairly consistant 3Mbps. He is 3 hops out. Equipment is
  WRAP2E/StarOS AP, Tranzeo CPQ-19 CPE. Any ideas?
  -RickG
 
 
 
  
 
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Re: [WISPA] VPN's

2009-08-23 Thread Jerry Richardson
We had the same issues with Citrix on Canopy. IIRC it was with older Citrix 
platforms.

Generally VPN should work with a static IP - VPN is not happy behind Double NAT.

QoS priority on the VPN at the customer router will help - paticularly if they 
have any heavy pps programs running.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 8:56 AM
To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VPN's

Ran into the Citrix problem a long time ago.  Most data programs are 
sensitive to dropped packets.  The problem with Citrix is that the 
packets were small.  The program was written to work as a database 
across a local area network.  Once WANs became common and the 
databases were centralized I think the programmers modified the 
code.  Is someone running an old LAN version of Citrix?


At 08:02 AM 8/23/2009, you wrote:
No one has complained about this from us in years, but when we had
some customers on Trango gear, Citrix would always drop.  Since we
started using gear that has ARQ, we haven't heard a peep from anyone
about this.

Citrix is VERY sensitive to dropped packets and I believe their was
some posts on DSL Reports several years ago on what Citrix
administrators could do to lessen this but don't remember any of the
specifics.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Josh
Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
  That's not a VPN.  I know MS terminal services works on dial-up.
 
  If he is having issues with that my first place I would look is the
  server not responding in time.
 
  Can you setup a Windows box for a few days next to your core so that
  the customer can remote into it?
 
  On 8/22/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
  This one is Citrix. Another used the built-in Windows version.
 
  On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Josh
  Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
  What type of VPN?
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:59 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Need some tips on VPN's. I know I've got many people who VPN to their
  offices with little or no trouble. But, I've had a few that had
  nothing but problems (dropped connections). I've got one now that is
  complaining but his connection is very strong (pings without loss avg
  2ms direct from AP and 7ms from my MT firewall). MT Ping speed test
  shows a fairly consistant 3Mbps. He is 3 hops out. Equipment is
  WRAP2E/StarOS AP, Tranzeo CPQ-19 CPE. Any ideas?
  -RickG
 
 
 
  
 
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Re: [WISPA] VPN's

2009-08-23 Thread RickG
Well, they call it vpn. Either way, their application drops the
connection yet the internet stays connected according to my monitor.
I'm gonna replace their radio with a better unit that gives me logs
and better diagnostics.
Thanks! -RickG

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Josh
Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 That's not a VPN.  I know MS terminal services works on dial-up.

 If he is having issues with that my first place I would look is the
 server not responding in time.

 Can you setup a Windows box for a few days next to your core so that
 the customer can remote into it?

 On 8/22/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 This one is Citrix. Another used the built-in Windows version.

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Josh
 Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 What type of VPN?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:59 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 Need some tips on VPN's. I know I've got many people who VPN to their
 offices with little or no trouble. But, I've had a few that had
 nothing but problems (dropped connections). I've got one now that is
 complaining but his connection is very strong (pings without loss avg
 2ms direct from AP and 7ms from my MT firewall). MT Ping speed test
 shows a fairly consistant 3Mbps. He is 3 hops out. Equipment is
 WRAP2E/StarOS AP, Tranzeo CPQ-19 CPE. Any ideas?
 -RickG



 
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Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

2009-08-23 Thread Blair Davis




I ran my BBS on an Atari 800

Robert West wrote:

  Sheesh!  I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes.
Man, that was livin'.

I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5"
floppy backup set.  Ran it on an IBM XT 286.  Speed, brother!  All about the
speed!




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer.

And then along came FIDONET.  I sure miss that.


Don't take your organs to heaven, 
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Blair Davis" the...@wmwisp.net
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?


  
  
5Mb, and 5 min to spin up...

Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on?


  
  




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[WISPA] Mountain Top Grounding

2009-08-23 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I have a site I am putting in on a mountain-top consisting of stacked  
rocks.  Well, they were stacked by glaciers, Techtonic movements,  
Paul Bunyan etc... Mostly 6-30 across with bedrock downthere  
somewhere.


Do any of you have a site like this? How did you or the site owner  
ground the site? I don't see grounding rods working really well.

ryan



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Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

2009-08-23 Thread Travis Johnson




I ran GBBS on my Apple ][+ (that I still have)... and also Proving
Grounds (DD based) on that system as well. 

Travis
Microserv

Blair Davis wrote:

  
  
I ran my BBS on an Atari 800
  
Robert West wrote:
  
Sheesh!  I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes.
Man, that was livin'.

I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5"
floppy backup set.  Ran it on an IBM XT 286.  Speed, brother!  All about the
speed!




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Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer.

And then along came FIDONET.  I sure miss that.


Don't take your organs to heaven, 
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. 

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To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?


  

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Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

2009-08-23 Thread Robert West
You were a rebel!

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

 

I ran my BBS on an Atari 800

Robert West wrote: 

Sheesh!  I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes.
Man, that was livin'.
 
I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5
floppy backup set.  Ran it on an IBM XT 286.  Speed, brother!  All about the
speed!
 
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
 
Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer.
 
And then along came FIDONET.  I sure miss that.
 
 
Don't take your organs to heaven, 
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Blair Davis  mailto:the...@wmwisp.net the...@wmwisp.net
To: WISPA General List  mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
 
 
  

5Mb, and 5 min to spin up...
 
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Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

2009-08-23 Thread Robert West
I see a trend. I guess running an ISP or a WISP is a natural progression
from a BBS.  

 

Makes sense to me.

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:38 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

 

I ran GBBS on my Apple ][+ (that I still have)... and also Proving Grounds
(DD based) on that system as well. 

Travis
Microserv

Blair Davis wrote: 

I ran my BBS on an Atari 800

Robert West wrote: 

Sheesh!  I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes.
Man, that was livin'.
 
I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5
floppy backup set.  Ran it on an IBM XT 286.  Speed, brother!  All about the
speed!
 
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
 
Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer.
 
And then along came FIDONET.  I sure miss that.
 
 
Don't take your organs to heaven, 
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. 
 
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To: WISPA General List  mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
 
 
  

5Mb, and 5 min to spin up...
 
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Re: [WISPA] Mountain Top Grounding

2009-08-23 Thread Gary Garrett
All of my sites are like that. Your real ground is the Power company 
neutral. They pound a rod at every meter, transformer, and splice box. 
Each pole also has a copper plate on the bottom with the weight of the 
pole on it.  All the way back to Hoover Dam.

Drive the ground rods at a little bit of an angle, drive lots of them, 
one at each Tower leg and each corner of the building. Connect them all 
together in a circle (Halo.) Try to route the #4 copper ground wire 
inside the building so it is hard to steal. Cad weld it if you can.
Use a rod driver, looks like a fence post driver, if one only goes 1/2 
way use it anyway. Cut it off and sharpen the end with a grinder and 
drive the other half.

The tower set in concrete is also ground, connect it in the Halo along 
with every conduit that is nearby.

Ground is ground the world around.



D. Ryan Spott wrote:
 I have a site I am putting in on a mountain-top consisting of stacked  
 rocks.  Well, they were stacked by glaciers, Techtonic movements,  
 Paul Bunyan etc... Mostly 6-30 across with bedrock downthere 
 somewhere.
 
 
 Do any of you have a site like this? How did you or the site owner  
 ground the site? I don't see grounding rods working really well.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Mountain Top Grounding

2009-08-23 Thread Tom Sharples
The standard approach is to build a ground plane, which can consist of an 
array of e.g. #12 stranded radiating outward in all directions from the base 
of your tower, to a distance equal or greater than the height of the tower. 
You don't have to bury these cables; they can float on or above the dirt as 
convenient.

Tom S.

- Original Message - 
From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:22 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Mountain Top Grounding


I have a site I am putting in on a mountain-top consisting of stacked
 rocks.  Well, they were stacked by glaciers, Techtonic movements,
 Paul Bunyan etc... Mostly 6-30 across with bedrock downthere
 somewhere.


 Do any of you have a site like this? How did you or the site owner
 ground the site? I don't see grounding rods working really well.

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[WISPA] FCC

2009-08-23 Thread Blake Bowers
Stolen from the Private Wireless mailing list, thanks to
Jack Daniels


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsCttAvOIw4

This is hilarious stuff.

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Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

2009-08-23 Thread Randy Cosby
I ran mine on a Kaypro 2 with two 5.25 floppies and a 300 baud 
volksmodem.  North County BBS in Escondido CA.



Blair Davis wrote:
 I ran my BBS on an Atari 800

 Robert West wrote:
 Sheesh!  I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes.
 Man, that was livin'.

 I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5
 floppy backup set.  Ran it on an IBM XT 286.  Speed, brother!  All about the
 speed!




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Blake Bowers
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

 Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer.

 And then along came FIDONET.  I sure miss that.


 Don't take your organs to heaven, 
 heaven knows we need them down here!
 Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. 

 - Original Message - 
 From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?


   
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 Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on?

 



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

2009-08-23 Thread ralph
OK-

As long as we are BBSing, I actually wrote  the TIBBSR BBS in the early
1980s and ran the Flagship TIBBS from my home near Atlanta.

 

I believe that in its heyday, there were over 100 systems running around the
US.

Even though Texas Instruments said that a TI-99/4 could not operate that
way, I obtained all the manuals for the communication and video chips they
used and wrote routines to do all the serial I/O  and storage.

The system could remotely identify other TIs and close the door on those
Rataris, Commode-Door Ick 20's and Rotten Apples if the Sysop chose to.

Your terminal also spoke to you and welcomed you to the system if you had
the speech synthesizer.

All this in 24K of BASIC programming and 8K of 9900 Assembly language.

 

Frank, also of Brightlan, was behind the FJJ real time clock/calendar card
that was marketed for the TI.

 

Some stuff about TIBBS is here: http://ralphfowler.com/ti994a.html

 

Those were good times.

 

Ralph

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

 

I ran my BBS on an Atari 800

Robert West wrote: 

Sheesh!  I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes.
Man, that was livin'.
 
I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5
floppy backup set.  Ran it on an IBM XT 286.  Speed, brother!  All about the
speed!
 
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
 
Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer.
 
And then along came FIDONET.  I sure miss that.
 
 
Don't take your organs to heaven, 
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. 
 
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To: WISPA General List  mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
 
 
  

5Mb, and 5 min to spin up...
 
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Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

2009-08-23 Thread RickG
Dont make me get my TRS-80 out! -RickG

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote:
 I ran GBBS on my Apple ][+ (that I still have)... and also Proving Grounds
 (DD based) on that system as well.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Blair Davis wrote:

 I ran my BBS on an Atari 800

 Robert West wrote:

 Sheesh!  I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes.
 Man, that was livin'.

 I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5
 floppy backup set.  Ran it on an IBM XT 286.  Speed, brother!  All about the
 speed!




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Blake Bowers
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

 Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer.

 And then along came FIDONET.  I sure miss that.


 Don't take your organs to heaven,
 heaven knows we need them down here!
 Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

 - Original Message -
 From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?




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[WISPA] BBS'n

2009-08-23 Thread Robert West
Oh, god no! I bought so much TRS-80 crap that in 1998, the manager of my
local Radio Shack called me up and asked me to come over.  They were under
orders to clean out the stock room of old stuff and he had a pile of new in
the box TRS-80's and all sorts of odd ball accessories.  Mine for free he
said, he was told to destroy and dispose of it.  Wasn't much use to me then,
heck, it was 1998 for Pete's sake.  But I took it and slowly used the bits
for something or gave things away.  Wish I had it all now.

 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

Dont make me get my TRS-80 out! -RickG

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote:
 I ran GBBS on my Apple ][+ (that I still have)... and also Proving Grounds
 (DD based) on that system as well.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Blair Davis wrote:

 I ran my BBS on an Atari 800

 Robert West wrote:

 Sheesh!  I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4
nodes.
 Man, that was livin'.

 I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200
2.5
 floppy backup set.  Ran it on an IBM XT 286.  Speed, brother!  All about
the
 speed!




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Blake Bowers
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

 Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer.

 And then along came FIDONET.  I sure miss that.


 Don't take your organs to heaven,
 heaven knows we need them down here!
 Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

 - Original Message -
 From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?




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Re: [WISPA] BBS'n

2009-08-23 Thread Frank
I ran a BBS on a 286. Then upgraded to a 386 and four nodes using Desqview.
Started with RBBS, then Wildcat with Binkleyterm on Fidonet. It was called
Infomania and mostly had the Fidonet equivalent of newsgroups. Eventually it
had Internet newsgroups via UUCP.

The equipment is in a box in my attic from when I turned it off in 1995.

Frank
WlanParts.com


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Re: [WISPA] BBS'n

2009-08-23 Thread Robert West
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Frank
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:50 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] BBS'n

I ran a BBS on a 286. Then upgraded to a 386 and four nodes using Desqview.
Started with RBBS, then Wildcat with Binkleyterm on Fidonet. It was called
Infomania and mostly had the Fidonet equivalent of newsgroups. Eventually it
had Internet newsgroups via UUCP.

The equipment is in a box in my attic from when I turned it off in 1995.

Frank
WlanParts.com


On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote:
 I ran GBBS on my Apple ][+ (that I still have)... and also Proving Grounds
 (DD based) on that system as well.

 Travis
 Microserv





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Re: [WISPA] BBS'n

2009-08-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
I wrote my first BBS software to work/go live on a Commodore Vic-20, and 
150kb floppy.

Its amazing how much data those things could handle with an efficient file 
system and text data.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:21 PM
Subject: [WISPA] BBS'n


 Oh, god no! I bought so much TRS-80 crap that in 1998, the manager of my
 local Radio Shack called me up and asked me to come over.  They were under
 orders to clean out the stock room of old stuff and he had a pile of new 
 in
 the box TRS-80's and all sorts of odd ball accessories.  Mine for free he
 said, he was told to destroy and dispose of it.  Wasn't much use to me 
 then,
 heck, it was 1998 for Pete's sake.  But I took it and slowly used the bits
 for something or gave things away.  Wish I had it all now.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:15 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

 Dont make me get my TRS-80 out! -RickG

 On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote:
 I ran GBBS on my Apple ][+ (that I still have)... and also Proving 
 Grounds
 (DD based) on that system as well.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Blair Davis wrote:

 I ran my BBS on an Atari 800

 Robert West wrote:

 Sheesh!  I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4
 nodes.
 Man, that was livin'.

 I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200
 2.5
 floppy backup set.  Ran it on an IBM XT 286.  Speed, brother!  All about
 the
 speed!




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Blake Bowers
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

 Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer.

 And then along came FIDONET.  I sure miss that.


 Don't take your organs to heaven,
 heaven knows we need them down here!
 Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

 - Original Message -
 From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?




 5Mb, and 5 min to spin up...

 Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on?




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] BBS'n

2009-08-23 Thread Blake Bowers
Now I have this desire to play Global War


Don't take your organs to heaven, 
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. 

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From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
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Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] BBS'n


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Re: [WISPA] BBS'n

2009-08-23 Thread David E. Smith
On Sun, August 23, 2009 11:15 pm, Blake Bowers wrote:
 Now I have this desire to play Global War

If I look through the filing cabinet long enough, I betcha I still have my
license key for Legend of the Red Dragon, which I bought for a then-local
BBS in 1994 or so...

David Smith
MVN.net




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