Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question
Rick...what data rate(s) are you running on the CPE and AP? What speed is the cust supposed to get? I would use something like 6/9/12/18 data rates at both ends. The slower the data rate the more headroom you will have. Leon * RickG wrote, On 9/2/2009 8:44 PM: I've got two customers on a 900MHz AP RB-433/XR9 running Mikrotik 3.10, with a 13db v-pol omni. Customer 1 has RB-411/XR9 running Mikrotik 3.10, with a 18db grid. 1 mile of solid trees. Signal is -85. Noise floor = -102. Customer 2 has RB-411/XR9 running Mikrotik 3.10 with a 15db yagi. 1/4 mile solid trees. Signal is -65. Noise floor = -102. Both customers live with in a mile of each other in the same direction from the AP. Customer 1 is complaining about speed. My tests show about 600-1000Kbps. Customer 2 is working well with 2-3Mbps speeds. Up until a few weeks ago Customer 1 had near 3Mbps speeds. I lean towards blaming the foliage but full bloom has long since passed. Any thoughts? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.76/2343 - Release Date: 09/03/09 05:50:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Microwave
We are seeing the same issue on a 18 ghz Giga, rf link is great, no traffic. We need to physically reboot one end, software reboot wont fix it. Happens once per month ... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Lamothe Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 8:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango Giga Microwave Has anyone had any experience with this product? We have the latest firmware from Trango and are still experiencing the same problem. After being online for a few weeks, our link starts to get packet loss then it won't transfer any traffic at all without a power cycle of both ends, the odd thing is that there's still a link between the two microwaves. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Microwave
We had a problem during storms with one link where the link would show as up but wouldn't pass traffic. Turned out to be a mis-matched ODU firmware. 2.3.9 doesn't auto rateshift back up but was pretty stable. 2.4.0 can have the interface lock up but still pass traffic. 2.4.1 doesn't have the interface lock up but it loses the auto rateshift back up. So, check your firmware and make sure it has the same version on both sides. We had an Apex link that wouldn't pass traffic if we upgraded one side and not the other. So, it seems very critical to have everything identical on both ends. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Kevin Lamotheklamo...@vianet.ca wrote: Has anyone had any experience with this product? We have the latest firmware from Trango and are still experiencing the same problem. After being online for a few weeks, our link starts to get packet loss then it won't transfer any traffic at all without a power cycle of both ends, the odd thing is that there's still a link between the two microwaves. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
I'd be less concerned about this if it were sponsored by a fringe Lefty...Rockefeller is not one of those. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John J. Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:27 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Senate Bill http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trango Giga Microwave
Has anyone had any experience with this product? We have the latest firmware from Trango and are still experiencing the same problem. After being online for a few weeks, our link starts to get packet loss then it won't transfer any traffic at all without a power cycle of both ends, the odd thing is that there's still a link between the two microwaves. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
You know, if you really think about places like N. Korea, this is what the people live with - open ended regulation of what they can and can't do, government officials with the power to do whatever they want, government controlled censorship, etc etc - all in the name of preserving our country. This is just one more step down a very slippery slope that our country is on right now. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill For the last couple of years, that's how it has been. Took us more then a decade getting everything prepared for the lolcats though! On 9/3/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I thought it was to watch funny cat videos on YouTube. Have I been wrong on this??? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Frank Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:58 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill Exactly! One of the best reasons to have the Internet is to hack (with free speech) the government. Frank -Original Message- From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:02 PM Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying to give him power to due? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Just wait till they start taxing us on per megabyte consumed I'm going to the tea party on that one! Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 8:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill You know, if you really think about places like N. Korea, this is what the people live with - open ended regulation of what they can and can't do, government officials with the power to do whatever they want, government controlled censorship, etc etc - all in the name of preserving our country. This is just one more step down a very slippery slope that our country is on right now. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill For the last couple of years, that's how it has been. Took us more then a decade getting everything prepared for the lolcats though! On 9/3/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I thought it was to watch funny cat videos on YouTube. Have I been wrong on this??? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Frank Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:58 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill Exactly! One of the best reasons to have the Internet is to hack (with free speech) the government. Frank -Original Message- From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:02 PM Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying to give him power to due? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question
Lol, and the answer is because horizontal usually has less noise. Whcih has nothing to do with the size of the wave cycle. Unless someone knows something I dont - which is always possible. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: heh, the question was why folks doing 900 preferred horizontal -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long I knew that but couldnt figure out why you specified horizontal. I guess you might have said Folks like 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long. Thanks! -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: same size. The electromagnetic wave is the same, polarity refers to the orientation of the wave. up and down or side to side. 13 inches is the wavelength (length of a single cycle). -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question The wave size of vertical would be different? -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question But look at all the experience you are gaining :) On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Why horizontal polarity? Cause I'm a total idiot when it comes to 900mhz and as my luck usually runs, if I go by the book nothing works until I do what I'm not supposed to do. But, also as my luck runs, the opposite of what I try first will work So it actually won't matter what I do including sitting the antennas 5 feet in front of each other, it will never work the first time out. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Edwards Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik in my experience. Why horizontal pol? Vertical cuts through the foliage much bettter, at least with the NorCal foliage we have here. tim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tim Edwards, Chief Engineer t...@telescience.net TeleScience Networks http://telescience.net 11101 Hiway 1, #102 415-663-8891 Point Reyes Station, CA 94956-1375 =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Hogg wrote: I find that the Trango 900 can handle the noise and capacity much better than MikroTik/XR9. I have a few hundred on Trango and it works better imo than XR9's. Canopy's GPS synch is the only reason I would prefer their 900MHz option. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm actually about to test something similar in a few days. We have a 2.5 mile link to put in with half a mile of it through trees with .25 miles of that running right over a creek. Doing it on the cheap, or trying to. Have 2 Mikrotik 411 boards on both sides running a transparent bridge using XR9 cards attached to a pac wireless grid antenna setup with horizontal polarity. The antennas are up and the boxes are configured, just have to go out tonight or tomorrow and run power to them and try to see what kind of throughput we can get, if any. Haven't tried it before but we'll see. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 900Mhz question We've been using the Trango 900Mhz gear and are familiar with canopy and it's abilities. How does a Mikrotik with something like a XR9 compare in terms of penetration and throughput when paired with a Ubiquity CPE? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918)
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
They are all progressives. This would be funny if it werent so close to the truth -- http://files.getdropbox.com/u/304326/1984obama.jpg On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Jeff Broadwickjeffl...@comcast.net wrote: I'd be less concerned about this if it were sponsored by a fringe Lefty...Rockefeller is not one of those. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John J. Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:27 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Senate Bill http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
It was more about national defense way back in the 60s -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET Commercial didnt enter the picture until much later. -RickG On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything. If you want to tie it to any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying to give him power to due? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant figure out is why we are giving this guy so much power? At any rate, the comments are interesting: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/comments/ -RickGhttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/comments/%0A-RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomasjtho...@quarnet.com wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Yay a Dropbox user! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: They are all progressives. This would be funny if it werent so close to the truth -- http://files.getdropbox.com/u/304326/1984obama.jpg On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Jeff Broadwickjeffl...@comcast.net wrote: I'd be less concerned about this if it were sponsored by a fringe Lefty...Rockefeller is not one of those. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John J. Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:27 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Senate Bill http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
I guess it depends on your definition of Internet. The ARPANET model doesn't really show what we have today. For me it's about TCP/IP, communication globally from the home, the capacity for anyone to present what they want nearly instantly. 20 years could you put a video online and share it with the planet in less then a minute? That would have been a joke back then. Anyways..back to the government not doing its job... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:50 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: It was more about national defense way back in the 60s -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET Commercial didnt enter the picture until much later. -RickG On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything. If you want to tie it to any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying to give him power to due? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant figure out is why we are giving this guy so much power? At any rate, the comments are interesting: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/comments/ -RickG http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/comments/%0A-RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomasjtho...@quarnet.com wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/ http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question
I am curious about 900 noise. My 2.4 gear sees noise levels of about -98 to -102, but the XR9 setup I have with H120 sector see -80 to -85 or so. I am in a small town of 5000 and I am curious what might be generating such a high noise floor. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Lol, and the answer is because horizontal usually has less noise. Whcih has nothing to do with the size of the wave cycle. Unless someone knows something I dont - which is always possible. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: heh, the question was why folks doing 900 preferred horizontal -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long I knew that but couldnt figure out why you specified horizontal. I guess you might have said Folks like 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long. Thanks! -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: same size. The electromagnetic wave is the same, polarity refers to the orientation of the wave. up and down or side to side. 13 inches is the wavelength (length of a single cycle). -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question The wave size of vertical would be different? -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question But look at all the experience you are gaining :) On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Why horizontal polarity? Cause I'm a total idiot when it comes to 900mhz and as my luck usually runs, if I go by the book nothing works until I do what I'm not supposed to do. But, also as my luck runs, the opposite of what I try first will work So it actually won't matter what I do including sitting the antennas 5 feet in front of each other, it will never work the first time out. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Edwards Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik in my experience. Why horizontal pol? Vertical cuts through the foliage much bettter, at least with the NorCal foliage we have here. tim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tim Edwards, Chief Engineer t...@telescience.net TeleScience Networks http://telescience.net 11101 Hiway 1, #102 415-663-8891 Point Reyes Station, CA 94956-1375 =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Hogg wrote: I find that the Trango 900 can handle the noise and capacity much better than MikroTik/XR9. I have a few hundred on Trango and it works better imo than XR9's. Canopy's GPS synch is the only reason I would prefer their 900MHz option. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm actually about to test something similar in a few days. We have a 2.5 mile link to put in with half a mile of it through trees with .25 miles of that running right over a creek. Doing it on the cheap, or trying to. Have 2 Mikrotik 411 boards on both sides running a transparent bridge using XR9 cards attached to a pac wireless grid antenna setup with horizontal polarity. The antennas are up and the boxes are configured, just have to go out tonight or tomorrow and run power to them and try to see what kind of throughput we can get, if any. Haven't tried it before but we'll see. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Was it Prodigy, AOL or Gore who invented the Internet? Or was it Compuserve? Man we've come a long ways since ALL of those. At 10:53 AM 9/3/2009, you wrote: I guess it depends on your definition of Internet. The ARPANET model doesn't really show what we have today. For me it's about TCP/IP, communication globally from the home, the capacity for anyone to present what they want nearly instantly. 20 years could you put a video online and share it with the planet in less then a minute? That would have been a joke back then. Anyways..back to the government not doing its job... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:50 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: It was more about national defense way back in the 60s -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET Commercial didnt enter the picture until much later. -RickG On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything. If you want to tie it to any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying to give him power to due? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant figure out is why we are giving this guy so much power? At any rate, the comments are interesting: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/comments/ -RickG http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/comments/%0A-RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomasjtho...@quarnet.com wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/ http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question
I'd say that is a pretty good noise floor for 900MHz... remember this stuff can carry forever Cordless phones, baby monitors... basically most things wireless can use 900MHz. Then you could be near a paging tower... or possibly a SCADA network out there. Honestly... I'm surprised your 2.4GHz noise floor is that good too Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I am curious about 900 noise. My 2.4 gear sees noise levels of about -98 to -102, but the XR9 setup I have with H120 sector see -80 to -85 or so. I am in a small town of 5000 and I am curious what might be generating such a high noise floor. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Lol, and the answer is because horizontal usually has less noise. Whcih has nothing to do with the size of the wave cycle. Unless someone knows something I dont - which is always possible. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: heh, the question was why folks doing 900 preferred horizontal -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long I knew that but couldnt figure out why you specified horizontal. I guess you might have said Folks like 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long. Thanks! -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: same size. The electromagnetic wave is the same, polarity refers to the orientation of the wave. up and down or side to side. 13 inches is the wavelength (length of a single cycle). -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question The wave size of vertical would be different? -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question But look at all the experience you are gaining :) On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Why horizontal polarity? Cause I'm a total idiot when it comes to 900mhz and as my luck usually runs, if I go by the book nothing works until I do what I'm not supposed to do. But, also as my luck runs, the opposite of what I try first will work So it actually won't matter what I do including sitting the antennas 5 feet in front of each other, it will never work the first time out. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Edwards Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik in my experience. Why horizontal pol? Vertical cuts through the foliage much bettter, at least with the NorCal foliage we have here. tim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tim Edwards, Chief Engineer t...@telescience.net TeleScience Networks http://telescience.net 11101 Hiway 1, #102 415-663-8891 Point Reyes Station, CA 94956-1375 =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Hogg wrote: I find that the Trango 900 can handle the noise and capacity much better than MikroTik/XR9. I have a few hundred on Trango and it works better imo than XR9's. Canopy's GPS synch is the only reason I would prefer their 900MHz option. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm actually about to test something similar in a few days. We have a 2.5 mile link to put in with half a mile of
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Al Gore. http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Was it Prodigy, AOL or Gore who invented the Internet? Or was it Compuserve? Man we've come a long ways since ALL of those. At 10:53 AM 9/3/2009, you wrote: I guess it depends on your definition of Internet. The ARPANET model doesn't really show what we have today. For me it's about TCP/IP, communication globally from the home, the capacity for anyone to present what they want nearly instantly. 20 years could you put a video online and share it with the planet in less then a minute? That would have been a joke back then. Anyways..back to the government not doing its job... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:50 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: It was more about national defense way back in the 60s -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET Commercial didnt enter the picture until much later. -RickG On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything. If you want to tie it to any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying to give him power to due? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant figure out is why we are giving this guy so much power? At any rate, the comments are interesting: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/comments/ -RickG http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/comments/%0A-RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomasjtho...@quarnet.com wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/ http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro%0Al-internet/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question
I'm curious if anybody has explored using circular polarization at 900 MHz for some of the reasons posted in this thread? At 10:42 AM 9/3/2009, you wrote: Lol, and the answer is because horizontal usually has less noise. Whcih has nothing to do with the size of the wave cycle. Unless someone knows something I dont - which is always possible. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: heh, the question was why folks doing 900 preferred horizontal -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long I knew that but couldnt figure out why you specified horizontal. I guess you might have said Folks like 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long. Thanks! -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: same size. The electromagnetic wave is the same, polarity refers to the orientation of the wave. up and down or side to side. 13 inches is the wavelength (length of a single cycle). -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question The wave size of vertical would be different? -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question But look at all the experience you are gaining :) On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Why horizontal polarity? Cause I'm a total idiot when it comes to 900mhz and as my luck usually runs, if I go by the book nothing works until I do what I'm not supposed to do. But, also as my luck runs, the opposite of what I try first will work So it actually won't matter what I do including sitting the antennas 5 feet in front of each other, it will never work the first time out. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Edwards Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik in my experience. Why horizontal pol? Vertical cuts through the foliage much bettter, at least with the NorCal foliage we have here. tim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tim Edwards, Chief Engineer t...@telescience.net TeleScience Networks http://telescience.net 11101 Hiway 1, #102415-663-8891 Point Reyes Station, CA 94956-1375 =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Hogg wrote: I find that the Trango 900 can handle the noise and capacity much better than MikroTik/XR9. I have a few hundred on Trango and it works better imo than XR9's. Canopy's GPS synch is the only reason I would prefer their 900MHz option. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm actually about to test something similar in a few days. We have a 2.5 mile link to put in with half a mile of it through trees with .25 miles of that running right over a creek. Doing it on the cheap, or trying to. Have 2 Mikrotik 411 boards on both sides running a transparent bridge using XR9 cards attached to a pac wireless grid antenna setup with horizontal polarity. The antennas are up and the boxes are configured, just have to go out tonight or tomorrow and run power to them and try to see what kind of throughput we can get, if any. Haven't tried it before but we'll see. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 900Mhz question We've been using the Trango 900Mhz gear and are familiar with
Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question
Cordless phones, baby monitors, PAGING SYSTEMS, and the bane for rural Iowa users is the new GPS positioning systems on every big farmer's tractor. They make 900 MHz worthless even with filters; they use the entire allotment. Telemetry, talking refrigerators, and other consumer devices also use 900 MHz. It also propagates much better than 2.4 so noise can be coming from a LONG ways away. At 10:55 AM 9/3/2009, you wrote: I am curious about 900 noise. My 2.4 gear sees noise levels of about -98 to -102, but the XR9 setup I have with H120 sector see -80 to -85 or so. I am in a small town of 5000 and I am curious what might be generating such a high noise floor. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Lol, and the answer is because horizontal usually has less noise. Whcih has nothing to do with the size of the wave cycle. Unless someone knows something I dont - which is always possible. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: heh, the question was why folks doing 900 preferred horizontal -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long I knew that but couldnt figure out why you specified horizontal. I guess you might have said Folks like 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long. Thanks! -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: same size. The electromagnetic wave is the same, polarity refers to the orientation of the wave. up and down or side to side. 13 inches is the wavelength (length of a single cycle). -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question The wave size of vertical would be different? -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question But look at all the experience you are gaining :) On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Why horizontal polarity? Cause I'm a total idiot when it comes to 900mhz and as my luck usually runs, if I go by the book nothing works until I do what I'm not supposed to do. But, also as my luck runs, the opposite of what I try first will work So it actually won't matter what I do including sitting the antennas 5 feet in front of each other, it will never work the first time out. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Edwards Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik in my experience. Why horizontal pol? Vertical cuts through the foliage much bettter, at least with the NorCal foliage we have here. tim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tim Edwards, Chief Engineer t...@telescience.net TeleScience Networks http://telescience.net 11101 Hiway 1, #102415-663-8891 Point Reyes Station, CA 94956-1375 =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Hogg wrote: I find that the Trango 900 can handle the noise and capacity much better than MikroTik/XR9. I have a few hundred on Trango and it works better imo than XR9's. Canopy's GPS synch is the only reason I would prefer their 900MHz option. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm actually about to test something similar in a few days. We have a 2.5 mile link to put in with half a mile of it through trees with .25 miles of that
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the telegraph Strange but true. But he was from the future, after all. :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill Was it Prodigy, AOL or Gore who invented the Internet? Or was it Compuserve? Man we've come a long ways since ALL of those. At 10:53 AM 9/3/2009, you wrote: I guess it depends on your definition of Internet. The ARPANET model doesn't really show what we have today. For me it's about TCP/IP, communication globally from the home, the capacity for anyone to present what they want nearly instantly. 20 years could you put a video online and share it with the planet in less then a minute? That would have been a joke back then. Anyways..back to the government not doing its job... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:50 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: It was more about national defense way back in the 60s -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET Commercial didnt enter the picture until much later. -RickG On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Actually Internet wasn't really made for anything. If you want to tie it to any one thing, commercial purposes was the primary focus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying to give him power to due? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill He'll have to pry my radios from my cold, dead fingers! What I cant figure out is why we are giving this guy so much power? At any rate, the comments are interesting: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/comments/ -RickG http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro %0Al-internet/comments/%0A-RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM, John J. Thomasjtho...@quarnet.com wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro l-internet/ http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-contro %0Al-internet/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
About 10 years ago I was in a meeting in Nashville where a GTE sales puke announced that GTE invented the internet. He beat a hasty retreat when the room full of cops were laughing at him... Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. Was it Prodigy, AOL or Gore who invented the Internet? Or was it Compuserve? Man we've come a long ways since ALL of those. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ruckus, Cisco Beamforming article
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/beamforming-wifi-ruckus,2390.html - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Microwave
Trango just recently released fw 2.4.2 which fixes this problem according to their engineering team. Gino Villarini wrote: We are seeing the same issue on a 18 ghz Giga, rf link is great, no traffic. We need to physically reboot one end, software reboot wont fix it. Happens once per month ... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Lamothe Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 8:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango Giga Microwave Has anyone had any experience with this product? We have the latest firmware from Trango and are still experiencing the same problem. After being online for a few weeks, our link starts to get packet loss then it won't transfer any traffic at all without a power cycle of both ends, the odd thing is that there's still a link between the two microwaves. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
Well, he was right , because BBN was part of GTE. On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 12:48:37PM -0500, Blake Bowers wrote: About 10 years ago I was in a meeting in Nashville where a GTE sales puke announced that GTE invented the internet. He beat a hasty retreat when the room full of cops were laughing at him... Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. Was it Prodigy, AOL or Gore who invented the Internet? Or was it Compuserve? Man we've come a long ways since ALL of those. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Alvarion 900 VL
I've tried to upgrade to the 5.5 firmware available from the Alvarion website, I cannot seem to get it to load on the VL 900 product line but it works fine on the 5.x Ghz equipment. Any ideas, is there a special firmware file I'm missing? -Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OEM Supplier Options? (Network appliance, CPE, etc...)
Try the following companies ... IntelR Embedded and Communications Alliance http://www.intel.com/design/network/ica/index.htm iBase - http://www.ibase.com.tw/2009/fwa6104.html Logic Supply - http://www.logicsupply.com/ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mailing LIst Member Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:44 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] OEM Supplier Options? (Network appliance, CPE, etc...) Greetings list. We are wondering if anyone had any good resources for OEM appliance supplier services. We are still very new, and are still researching to figure out what the most effective and viable route would be, for possible network appliance configurations services/sales to some local clients. We are looking for mini-itx, or pico-itx Intel Atom processor-based main boards and enclosures, preferably that are aesthetically pleasing, to put out platform software on, and sell/lease to our clients for network management/access applications. We are developing on BSD and Java EE however, that is superfluous in reference to platform considerations already discussed. Any input would be appreciated... Respectfully, Martes G Wigglesworth M. G. Wigglesworth Holdings, LLC --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG
The difference between them, as per a conversation on the support forum, is actually the chipset in use in the device. Bullet 2's and Nano's apparently simply lack the hardware capability. On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:42:54 -0700, Mark Nash wrote It appears that only SOME of the Ubiquiti products enable compression fast frames, some don't. Is this accurate? Any success stories using the WRT firmware on these products? It seems that the hardware is capable, just hasn't been enabled in the firmware unless you purchase the higher end, more expensive products. This seems to be the ONLY thing keeping me from using these products in a big way as opposed to what I use now, StarOS. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG
I, too, run Star-OS, and the bullet 2's are approximately 50% of the throughput of a staros based cpe when in 11b mode. Star-OS has other helpful things like managed mode, and the signal level settings. I use bullet 2's only when I absolutely have to, due to this. Star-OS ap to cpe will endure high levels of interference and multipath, without packet loss, but not a bullet. On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:32:28 -0400, RickG wrote Mark, It appears that is correct. I also run StarOS AP's. Interesting though, I have not seen any performance differences between the units with ff comp and those that dont support it. I wonder if its just something you cant view? -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net wrote: According to Ubiquiti, these DO support ff comp: Nanostation 5 Nanostation Loco 5 Bullet 2 HP Picostation 2 HP All powerstations All others do not, including: Nanostation 2 Nanostation Loco 2 Bullet 2 (non-HP...WTF???) Bullet5 Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG I know that with DDWRT, you have to pay for the license and you get a key. Not sure about OpenWRT. I don't recall any current UBNT I have used that did not support ff and comp. I have used most, except for the newest that just came out. Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG It appears that only SOME of the Ubiquiti products enable compression fast frames, some don't. Is this accurate? Any success stories using the WRT firmware on these products? It seems that the hardware is capable, just hasn't been enabled in the firmware unless you purchase the higher end, more expensive products. This seems to be the ONLY thing keeping me from using these products in a big way as opposed to what I use now, StarOS. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG
I havent seen that but I've only got a few StarOS CPE units out there. What version are you running? I'm still on V2 for Customer APs. Just started upgrading to V3 for Backhauls. -RickG On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:35 PM, readerrea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I, too, run Star-OS, and the bullet 2's are approximately 50% of the throughput of a staros based cpe when in 11b mode. Star-OS has other helpful things like managed mode, and the signal level settings. I use bullet 2's only when I absolutely have to, due to this. Star-OS ap to cpe will endure high levels of interference and multipath, without packet loss, but not a bullet. On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:32:28 -0400, RickG wrote Mark, It appears that is correct. I also run StarOS AP's. Interesting though, I have not seen any performance differences between the units with ff comp and those that dont support it. I wonder if its just something you cant view? -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net wrote: According to Ubiquiti, these DO support ff comp: Nanostation 5 Nanostation Loco 5 Bullet 2 HP Picostation 2 HP All powerstations All others do not, including: Nanostation 2 Nanostation Loco 2 Bullet 2 (non-HP...WTF???) Bullet5 Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG I know that with DDWRT, you have to pay for the license and you get a key. Not sure about OpenWRT. I don't recall any current UBNT I have used that did not support ff and comp. I have used most, except for the newest that just came out. Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG It appears that only SOME of the Ubiquiti products enable compression fast frames, some don't. Is this accurate? Any success stories using the WRT firmware on these products? It seems that the hardware is capable, just hasn't been enabled in the firmware unless you purchase the higher end, more expensive products. This seems to be the ONLY thing keeping me from using these products in a big way as opposed to what I use now, StarOS. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG
Mmmm. My Bullet 5's have ff/comp settings. I wonder if that is a mistake? Mark Nash wrote: According to Ubiquiti, these DO support ff comp: Nanostation 5 Nanostation Loco 5 Bullet 2 HP Picostation 2 HP All powerstations All others do not, including: Nanostation 2 Nanostation Loco 2 Bullet 2 (non-HP...WTF???) Bullet5 Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG I know that with DDWRT, you have to pay for the license and you get a key. Not sure about OpenWRT. I don't recall any current UBNT I have used that did not support ff and comp. I have used most, except for the newest that just came out. Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG It appears that only SOME of the Ubiquiti products enable compression fast frames, some don't. Is this accurate? Any success stories using the WRT firmware on these products? It seems that the hardware is capable, just hasn't been enabled in the firmware unless you purchase the higher end, more expensive products. This seems to be the ONLY thing keeping me from using these products in a big way as opposed to what I use now, StarOS. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
The real shame here is that is has nothing to do with cyber-security. There is no inbound service attack that is not better dealt with by shutting off the attacked network then by turning off everyone else. Don't forget its dirt simple to go X failed Y times, block traffic from X for Z hours with any well designed daemon. DDos's would be the only attack that would be 'better' stopped by turning off everyone else (and there are ways to deal with them too that is better imo). For bank networks, power, water, etc, they should not BE on the public internet, or at least not advertised! There is no need for the back end servers running the bank to be linked to the WWW portal in such a way that a DDoS on the WWW takes out the CC processor. bah! why rant here, anyone who can pass a Net+ exam know this. How about we demand that our public servants pass entry level education for any bill they want to propose or vote on? And a healthy watch of 'Mr Smith goes to Washington'. Extra points for anyone who knows that movie with out the help of the Internet! =) John J. Thomas wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-control-internet/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
