[WISPA] Revived 411
Finally got a response out of my otherwise dead 411ah via serial. Kernel Panic. Was able to format the Nand then Netinstall the OS. Saved me 80 bucks, was worth the loss of sleep. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest
On Dec 9, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Matt, would you mind clarifying.When you said... have not the left the business, did you mean I don't mind clarifying, but I am not sure what the interest is. 1) Have not left OneRing/RapidLink, and are involved in a non-employee capacity. or that 2) Have not left the Wireless Industry. I have not left the wireless industry. The simplest way to describe my status with Rapid Link is to state that it is what was before except I am no longer on the board and am not an employee. Rapid Link did file an 8-K when I resigned from the board. Further, they have also filed that they entered into a merge transaction and subsequent management agreement. If you are interested in Rapid Link there is plenty of SEC filings to read. When you said... I cant talk about it, did you mean 1) You cant talk about your status at OneRing/RapidLink or that 2) You cant talk about what you are doing now.. I can't talk about what I am doing now. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest
On Dec 10, 2009, at 1:29 AM, rwf wrote: Oh? So you are still a WISP then? What is your company called? Guess your filter still isn't working then. I am not a WISP and never have been. If you think you know something and would like to get yourself and others in trouble then by all means post away. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wind! - RMA on a Mikrotik 411 board, anyone?
Shoot jeffco a call with the serial and MACs, takes about 2 sec to lookup . --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:46 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wind! - RMA on a Mikrotik 411 board, anyone? Turned out to be The 411 card. HUH? I hear ya say. I dunno either. I attacked the cables first thing, replaced the pig tail, the short extension of lmr-400 from the pac grid to enclosure, cat5 to router. Man! Still dead! So I connected my laptop directly into the 411 board and no response. Reset, still nothing. Lights up, gives me one beep but never completes the boot, no cute beep beep of satisfaction. Got it here at home, no manner of resetting gets it, can't get in via serial. Could go with the jtag but I don't want to deal with putting the pins on it. Bummer. Only 4 months old, this one is. Now where did I buy the thing? is what I'm asking myself. MT says to RMA through the distributor but I pick these things up from whoever has the UBNT stuff in stock at the time, I just add to the order. The invoices don't list the MAC ID or serial number, not that I can see. Could be Streakwave, Wlanparts or Wisp-router. I think I bought a few things form Jeffs Soho, might have just been 433's Anyhow, any tips on the RMA on these things? Does it really matter who gets the hit? I'd vote for Streakwave, they're closer. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wind! The last time I experienced that, it was a bad cable end, where the wind had shaken the last 18 inches of 400 size cable - the distance from the last clamp to the N connector, and the N connector had literally shaken apart. The entire braiding had broken loose and the compression on the foam inner had crushed until the whole cable began creeping out of the connector. It was cold, and even the shrink wrap had cracked, and the tape wrapped over that was just slowly stretching... -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Wind! Windy today, supposed to have gusts up to 50mph before days end. I was monitoring some backhaul links, had one bouncing from -72 to -83. Up and down. I'm thinking, uh-oh, got a grid loose someplace, better go fix it now before it gets worse. I go out, first end solid as can be. I even shake the heck out of it, all good. I guess the other end is messed up. Go out, also solid. Look at the laptop, still bouncing. Using pac 28dbi grids with 411 boards R52h cards on both sides. First grid is at 60', second at 100' No trees, heck I can almost see the other end with my naked and cold eye. It's only 4 miles out. Link is normally -72. Maybe junk being tossed up in the wind? That would be a lot ot junk for -10 drop in RSSI I would think. Just sharing. Weird. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Revived 411
kewl! --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:35 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Revived 411 Finally got a response out of my otherwise dead 411ah via serial. Kernel Panic. Was able to format the Nand then Netinstall the OS. Saved me 80 bucks, was worth the loss of sleep. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color?
Was that in regards to your logo? I trademarked one of our logos a few years ago, cost was around 300 bucks and it was all just paperwork. From what I gathered in that process was, I could register the trademark or logo with the state or I could register with the U.S. The impression that I got was that to only register at the state level was foolish because someone outside of the state could use the same logo. Hence the existence of 2 Burger Kings, the first registered in, I think, Illinois. But only at a state level. Then came the national chain and they had a big fight over it. The little guy won, partly, and still operates as Burger King but the big chain has to be so many miles away from him. Service Marks and Trademarks are easily done, anyone else doing that? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color? I know a trademark attorney out of silicon valley if anybody is interested. Sorry if you want to trademark Blue. We have that. :oP Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color? I suggest you consult a patent and trademark attorney. I doubt that there are any on this list. :-( Robert West wrote: I was looking through some invoices and just caught that UPS has a trademark on the color Brown. HUH? I guess in the context of a package delivery company it would stick but man, what about shades of brown? So I was thinking, as I randomly do, if I use every primary color in different versions of my logo and trademark them all, wouldn't that leave any other wireless company with no colors to do a darned thing with? Just seems silly to trademark a color. Can I trademark cats? Or smells? Or maybe the smell of a cat? Who would want to. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Technical Writing, Editing, and Training Serving the Wireless, Networking, and Telecom Communities Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MT Surface Mount Mini PCI SLot Source?
I have a 433ah I dropped a month or so ago from about, oh, a hundred feet... Hitting guy wires all the way down to boot.. Broke one of the ears off the mini pci card nearest the top edge. That slot is now dead for all intents and purposes but the card is still working fine. Anyone know of a source for surface mount mini pci slots that can be used for replacement? Not to worry, I can solder, we're old school. Thanks Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] an epic storm
Winds knocked two customers offline. One was poorly engineered and the CPE radio was mounted on a pipe. The pipe is super loose, so this is the second time in 2 or 3 years this has happened. Pretty irritated about that. Secondly the customer's roof fell apart and the radio came off. They said it was mounted to the plumbing (exhaust vent?) because I detest piercing shingles. This is before we did pictures so I'm curious about this one. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: We only had 6 of snow here west of Chicago, but we have the same winds you do. I guess it's a good thing not all of the corn it out yet. The roads and establishments near them are pretty clear of drifting. I'll be digging everything out every day. As far as the network... it hasn't noticed. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] an epic storm I'm not sure how this storm is affecting my fellow midwest WISP friends, but it is turning into an epic event here. Snow has drifted above the windows on a couple sides of the house. Winds are 35 mph sustained gusting to 50. It is still snowing, and we've had 14 - 16 inches of snow. It's 10 degrees outside. The thermometer above my shoulder reads 75 inside. You have to love wood heat. It will take me all day tomorrow to dig out I'm sure. I dug out a path for the three legged dog to go out and pee, and it's drifted in. Epic. I hope you're all safe, warm and secure. mg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color?
I really don't think you can do that. I seem to remember that John Deere tried it and failed. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color? I know a trademark attorney out of silicon valley if anybody is interested. Sorry if you want to trademark Blue. We have that. :oP Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color? I suggest you consult a patent and trademark attorney. I doubt that there are any on this list. :-( Robert West wrote: I was looking through some invoices and just caught that UPS has a trademark on the color Brown. HUH? I guess in the context of a package delivery company it would stick but man, what about shades of brown? So I was thinking, as I randomly do, if I use every primary color in different versions of my logo and trademark them all, wouldn't that leave any other wireless company with no colors to do a darned thing with? Just seems silly to trademark a color. Can I trademark cats? Or smells? Or maybe the smell of a cat? Who would want to. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Technical Writing, Editing, and Training Serving the Wireless, Networking, and Telecom Communities Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day!
As little as 1v with enough currant will kill you. It's not voltage that kills but rather the currant. It takes 200ma to stop your hear but to get that much to the hear you have a lot of resistance to overcome and with only a small amount of voltage you need a lot of juice. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:30:12 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day! 24 volts won't kill you. 25 volts will; with enough current. :-) At 10:00 PM 12/9/2009, you wrote: By low, I was talking about 24 volts. I know the electric company calls 120 volts. My point was I'm not taking a bucket near any electrical power lines, period. Thanks! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: More people die every year from low voltage than from high. Or so I've been told. But that may not be quite right: http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/98-131/epidemi.html#fig1 Still, far too many deaths from ALL voltages. marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day! Not near high power lines. With that said, your comments are very good advice and well taken. It wasnt long ago that a co-worker at the electric company I was at was killed up in a bucket. We should all take high power seriously. Thanks! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: You mean to say that you've never ended up with the bucket or boom in a place that you didn't expect it to get? I sure have! marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day! On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day! One time, I had to borrow a friends bucket I'll assume you meant bucket truck. The day we bought our bucket truck and brought it home, I took a 3/8 drill bit to about 3 places in the bottom of the bucket to let water out. That's not a good idea. You now give a place for electricity to run through your body if you happen to move between a ground source and an electrical line. I've thought of doing that to my truck, but it's really not hard to just dump the buckets. I've worked for several electric companies and understand the reasoning behind this. But, if you dont use a bucket near high power lines then its not an issue. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color?
Looked it up, they did. They even trademarked the combination of yellow and green for agricultural machines in the E.U. So even color combinations. I'm gonna look into that, seems like it's something that may need to be done. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color? I really don't think you can do that. I seem to remember that John Deere tried it and failed. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color? I know a trademark attorney out of silicon valley if anybody is interested. Sorry if you want to trademark Blue. We have that. :oP Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color? I suggest you consult a patent and trademark attorney. I doubt that there are any on this list. :-( Robert West wrote: I was looking through some invoices and just caught that UPS has a trademark on the color Brown. HUH? I guess in the context of a package delivery company it would stick but man, what about shades of brown? So I was thinking, as I randomly do, if I use every primary color in different versions of my logo and trademark them all, wouldn't that leave any other wireless company with no colors to do a darned thing with? Just seems silly to trademark a color. Can I trademark cats? Or smells? Or maybe the smell of a cat? Who would want to. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Technical Writing, Editing, and Training Serving the Wireless, Networking, and Telecom Communities Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color?
Oh yes they did. Try to buy John Deere green paint; you pay a premium. They absolutely maintain control on marketing of the green, Deere. At 09:05 AM 12/10/2009, you wrote: I really don't think you can do that. I seem to remember that John Deere tried it and failed. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color? I know a trademark attorney out of silicon valley if anybody is interested. Sorry if you want to trademark Blue. We have that. :oP Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color? I suggest you consult a patent and trademark attorney. I doubt that there are any on this list. :-( Robert West wrote: I was looking through some invoices and just caught that UPS has a trademark on the color Brown. HUH? I guess in the context of a package delivery company it would stick but man, what about shades of brown? So I was thinking, as I randomly do, if I use every primary color in different versions of my logo and trademark them all, wouldn't that leave any other wireless company with no colors to do a darned thing with? Just seems silly to trademark a color. Can I trademark cats? Or smells? Or maybe the smell of a cat? Who would want to. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Technical Writing, Editing, and Training Serving the Wireless, Networking, and Telecom Communities Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Surface Mount Mini PCI SLot Source?
If you want call our sales team and they can send you a dead 433 board and you can take the slot of it (all you would need is to pay shipping). However to do that you would need a air rework gun. Done it numerous times, takes about 15-20 min to take the bad one off, remove the working one and solder the good one back. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Robert West Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: 'WISPA General List' ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT Surface Mount Mini PCI SLot Source? Sent: Dec 10, 2009 11:05 I have a 433ah I dropped a month or so ago from about, oh, a hundred feet... Hitting guy wires all the way down to boot.. Broke one of the ears off the mini pci card nearest the top edge. That slot is now dead for all intents and purposes but the card is still working fine. Anyone know of a source for surface mount mini pci slots that can be used for replacement? Not to worry, I can solder, we're old school. Thanks Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest
Unlicensed to kill of course. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest At what frequency? :P On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com wrote: Wireless denizens never die, we just attenuate away into oblivion. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest MMmm... What does Hotel California and Wireless Execs have in common? you can check in, but you can never leave :-) Sounds like Matt is saying he still has vested interest to stay involved in RL/OR to protect his investment revenue. Matt, would you mind clarifying.When you said... have not the left the business, did you mean 1) Have not left OneRing/RapidLink, and are involved in a non-employee capacity. or that 2) Have not left the Wireless Industry. When you said... I cant talk about it, did you mean 1) You cant talk about your status at OneRing/RapidLink or that 2) You cant talk about what you are doing now.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest I am not longer with Rapid Link/One Ring as an employee, but I have not left the business. Ralph likes to speak out of turn. -Matt On Dec 9, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Matt's not in the business anymore? News to me. I thought he was with Rapid or Ring something or another? Not anymore? If true, that really is interesting... Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rwf Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest Matt- Please consider taking your insurance debate to another list. When you pop in, you just make the discussion hotter and more active. Some of us are here for wireless discussion, and Matt, although I understand you are no longer actively in the business, the rest of us still are. I even made a filter but you keep slipping through. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 270.12.26/2116 - Release Date: 5/15/2009 6:16 AM -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color?
When it comes to trademark a color it is very strict and very limited if memory serves me right. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:05:51 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color? Imagine, if you will, some nut job (me) who had too much money (not me) and went about trade marking colors for different uses like some people squat on domain names. Could be a mess. Interesting but still a mess. I bet there are safeguards someplace for that. Has to be. I want to trademark the smell of bread. If you want to make bread that smells like bread, you need to pay me a royalty for every loaf. I bet it could partially fly, or at least get me on the Howard Stern show. (gag) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color? Deere has Deere green. Ridiculous as it seems it's true. On 12/9/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I was looking through some invoices and just caught that UPS has a trademark on the color Brown. HUH? I guess in the context of a package delivery company it would stick but man, what about shades of brown? So I was thinking, as I randomly do, if I use every primary color in different versions of my logo and trademark them all, wouldn't that leave any other wireless company with no colors to do a darned thing with? Just seems silly to trademark a color. Can I trademark cats? Or smells? Or maybe the smell of a cat? Who would want to. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Surface Mount Mini PCI SLot Source?
Can do. I started using Chip Quik for removing SMD's a couple of years ago and gave up the air gun. Still have it, just really liked the Chip Quik. Started using it to remove power surge damaged lan chips from motherboards and now use it for lots of other things. Was a god send for removing laptop power jacks. I've even used it to replace bad flash chips on various boards as well as replace some integrated ram on a laptop. I'll give them a call. Thanks a bunch! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Surface Mount Mini PCI SLot Source? If you want call our sales team and they can send you a dead 433 board and you can take the slot of it (all you would need is to pay shipping). However to do that you would need a air rework gun. Done it numerous times, takes about 15-20 min to take the bad one off, remove the working one and solder the good one back. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Robert West Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: 'WISPA General List' ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT Surface Mount Mini PCI SLot Source? Sent: Dec 10, 2009 11:05 I have a 433ah I dropped a month or so ago from about, oh, a hundred feet... Hitting guy wires all the way down to boot.. Broke one of the ears off the mini pci card nearest the top edge. That slot is now dead for all intents and purposes but the card is still working fine. Anyone know of a source for surface mount mini pci slots that can be used for replacement? Not to worry, I can solder, we're old school. Thanks Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket5 Availability
Believe it's all in this shipment that is due in. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Robert West To: e...@wisp-router.com To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Rocket5 Availability Sent: Dec 9, 2009 22:23 Yeah, UBNT said you're getting some late this week, first of next. Hope you have some sectors by the end of the year, have to spend a little more, so says the accountant. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket5 Availability Rocket5's are on their way. Shouldn't be long now. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Robert West Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: 'WISPA General List' ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Rocket5 Availability Sent: Dec 9, 2009 21:52 If anyone is interested, I was on the hunt for some UBNT Rocket 5 M's today and Ben over at UBNT steered me to invictuswireless.com. Never heard of them before but they had some. By some good mistake their site says both that it is in stock and temporarily out of stock so I think no one is ordering but they told me they had them so I clicked and they've shipped. How long has it been since anyone begged for Nano2s??? Man, everyone has scads of them in stock now. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Surface Mount Mini PCI SLot Source?
Ahh well then you got the equipment. We got plenty of un-repairable boards one of these days will have to send them of for recycling. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Robert West To: e...@wisp-router.com To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] MT Surface Mount Mini PCI SLot Source? Sent: Dec 10, 2009 11:55 Can do. I started using Chip Quik for removing SMD's a couple of years ago and gave up the air gun. Still have it, just really liked the Chip Quik. Started using it to remove power surge damaged lan chips from motherboards and now use it for lots of other things. Was a god send for removing laptop power jacks. I've even used it to replace bad flash chips on various boards as well as replace some integrated ram on a laptop. I'll give them a call. Thanks a bunch! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Surface Mount Mini PCI SLot Source? If you want call our sales team and they can send you a dead 433 board and you can take the slot of it (all you would need is to pay shipping). However to do that you would need a air rework gun. Done it numerous times, takes about 15-20 min to take the bad one off, remove the working one and solder the good one back. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Robert West Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: 'WISPA General List' ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT Surface Mount Mini PCI SLot Source? Sent: Dec 10, 2009 11:05 I have a 433ah I dropped a month or so ago from about, oh, a hundred feet... Hitting guy wires all the way down to boot.. Broke one of the ears off the mini pci card nearest the top edge. That slot is now dead for all intents and purposes but the card is still working fine. Anyone know of a source for surface mount mini pci slots that can be used for replacement? Not to worry, I can solder, we're old school. Thanks Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color?
It is all about application. If you paint a fleet of vehicles that brown, to do some kind of delivery (ie, Pizza, Package, People) than yes, UPS has a trademark on that color. If you paint your house brown, and are not running a package delivery company, than most likely you are NOT violating a trademark.. http://tess2.uspto.gov/ Search Brown AND united AND parcel for 30 of their trademarks. http://www.schwimmerlegal.com/2005/03/diluted_brown_w.html http://www.lahserpatent.com/blog/tm-ups-brown-gone-bad/ And John Deere has a number of trademarks on the use of Green on implements, tractors, and toys. Check it out on the first web link - using john AND deere AND green Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color? I really don't think you can do that. I seem to remember that John Deere tried it and failed. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color? I know a trademark attorney out of silicon valley if anybody is interested. Sorry if you want to trademark Blue. We have that. :oP Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trademark on a color? I suggest you consult a patent and trademark attorney. I doubt that there are any on this list. :-( Robert West wrote: I was looking through some invoices and just caught that UPS has a trademark on the color Brown. HUH? I guess in the context of a package delivery company it would stick but man, what about shades of brown? So I was thinking, as I randomly do, if I use every primary color in different versions of my logo and trademark them all, wouldn't that leave any other wireless company with no colors to do a darned thing with? Just seems silly to trademark a color. Can I trademark cats? Or smells? Or maybe the smell of a cat? Who would want to. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Technical Writing, Editing, and Training Serving the Wireless, Networking, and Telecom Communities Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RocketM MIMO Sector
I just ordered a Rocket M MIMO 5.8ghz 17dbi 90 Degree sector to try out. I must say being able to mount the radio to the back of the antenna and the cute little SMA jumpers (obviously, I'll provide more weather proofing than provided) to connect up to the radio. I thought it was the coolest thing since sliced bread. This will make installation on towers much more simple and easy to accomplish while taking up less space. Now, if the RocketM5 were just certified to run in 5.3Ghz and 5.4Ghz in the US. Thank You, Cameron Kilton WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket5 Availability
I just ordered some today... :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:58 AM To: Robert West; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket5 Availability Believe it's all in this shipment that is due in. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Robert West To: e...@wisp-router.com To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Rocket5 Availability Sent: Dec 9, 2009 22:23 Yeah, UBNT said you're getting some late this week, first of next. Hope you have some sectors by the end of the year, have to spend a little more, so says the accountant. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket5 Availability Rocket5's are on their way. Shouldn't be long now. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Robert West Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: 'WISPA General List' ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Rocket5 Availability Sent: Dec 9, 2009 21:52 If anyone is interested, I was on the hunt for some UBNT Rocket 5 M's today and Ben over at UBNT steered me to invictuswireless.com. Never heard of them before but they had some. By some good mistake their site says both that it is in stock and temporarily out of stock so I think no one is ordering but they told me they had them so I clicked and they've shipped. How long has it been since anyone begged for Nano2s??? Man, everyone has scads of them in stock now. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RocketM MIMO Sector
I taped mine too, they say they're good as is but it's my old kind of thinking. Oh, I made a mistake when putting the radio on the antenna for the first time It will actually go on upside down. Found that out right away! And boy, hard as heck to get back off to turn the right way around. It's almost the RooTena of sectors. Now some smart guy - as in not me - needs to come up with an aftermarket kit that snaps on that rocket mount so that the MT alumni can easily add a 411 or other board to it. You guys know you want one. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:17 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] RocketM MIMO Sector I just ordered a Rocket M MIMO 5.8ghz 17dbi 90 Degree sector to try out. I must say being able to mount the radio to the back of the antenna and the cute little SMA jumpers (obviously, I'll provide more weather proofing than provided) to connect up to the radio. I thought it was the coolest thing since sliced bread. This will make installation on towers much more simple and easy to accomplish while taking up less space. Now, if the RocketM5 were just certified to run in 5.3Ghz and 5.4Ghz in the US. Thank You, Cameron Kilton WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RocketM MIMO Sector
Ohh and if they were FCC approved to operate in PTMP with Sectorsjoy Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:17 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] RocketM MIMO Sector I just ordered a Rocket M MIMO 5.8ghz 17dbi 90 Degree sector to try out. I must say being able to mount the radio to the back of the antenna and the cute little SMA jumpers (obviously, I'll provide more weather proofing than provided) to connect up to the radio. I thought it was the coolest thing since sliced bread. This will make installation on towers much more simple and easy to accomplish while taking up less space. Now, if the RocketM5 were just certified to run in 5.3Ghz and 5.4Ghz in the US. Thank You, Cameron Kilton WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Engenius 3610 indoor ap losing etehrnet and wifi
We had similar issues with the Engenius/Senao EOC-2610 outdoor ap. What seems to have finally fixed it for us was loading DD-WRT to them. On 12/8/09 12:30 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: I have not used the Engenius 3610 personally, but I have used the 400mW versions in outdoor and indoor environments. I found that any surge in power, either from lightning, or brown outs, would set them to factory defaults. Have you tried accessing them through the factory default settings to see if you could access them via wired? I gave up on these unit's after a year of trying to make them work out in any situation. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:52:46 -0500 If you can't see the 2.4 spectrum then the device simply locked up. What is causing it sounds like a bug to me. One simple broadcast packet nails several of the radios and freaks them out. Do you have the latest firmware for them? In the past these radios would lose their config if they had to switch modes (that is, if the default mode out of the box is bridge you will lose the config - if the default mode out of the box is AP you're safe). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net wrote: Can't connect via wifi or Ethernet, can't see it via 2.4. I have the sniffer going now. Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Engenius 3610 indoor ap losing etehrnet and wifi When you say no wifi does that mean you can not connect to the AP or that your laptop doesn't see the AP broadcasting in 2.4? I would have to guess packet storm as well. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.netwrote: Broadcast storm? Alan Long wrote: I have a site where we deployed approx 45 engenius indoor 3610 deployed in 26 buildings. They are all in ap mode only and have a hardwire connection back to my main outbound internet gateway. They are all on the same subnet for management, and the users are on different subnet for their access out. Just all layer 2 between them and the gateway, with no vlans. The Tuesday before Thanksgiving we had almost all the radios to go down, had no wifi nor Ethernet. We rebooted all units and they came right back up and worked for several days and then same issue. I have since put each building with a router between the radios and my gateway and have only had a few lockup since that time. Anyone have any ideas on what may be causing these issues? I have one of the units at my office, hooked on the network and can't get it to lock up, and it was one of the units that locked up. http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net tel: mobile: http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3342759998E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998 http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=336092E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_joini nvite=1=en Always have my latest info http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig Want a signature like this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest
[WISPA] WISP value
We are in talks to aquire a few local WISP's, I'm interested in hearing about guidelines some of you who have aquired other WISP's in the past have used to determine the value? Just looking for some general rules, how much is a subscriber worth for example, how much are their tower contracts worth, that sort of thing. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP value
From the Motorola thread...from what I skimmed through... 0.5 to 1.5 times gross revenue for one year WAY more information in the thread on the Motorola list. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: We are in talks to aquire a few local WISP's, I'm interested in hearing about guidelines some of you who have aquired other WISP's in the past have used to determine the value? Just looking for some general rules, how much is a subscriber worth for example, how much are their tower contracts worth, that sort of thing. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day!
Those currants are killers. Greg On Dec 10, 2009, at 10:17 AM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote: As little as 1v with enough currant will kill you. It's not voltage that kills but rather the currant. It takes 200ma to stop your hear but to get that much to the hear you have a lot of resistance to overcome and with only a small amount of voltage you need a lot of juice. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:30:12 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day! 24 volts won't kill you. 25 volts will; with enough current. :-) At 10:00 PM 12/9/2009, you wrote: By low, I was talking about 24 volts. I know the electric company calls 120 volts. My point was I'm not taking a bucket near any electrical power lines, period. Thanks! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: More people die every year from low voltage than from high. Or so I've been told. But that may not be quite right: http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/98-131/epidemi.html#fig1 Still, far too many deaths from ALL voltages. marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day! Not near high power lines. With that said, your comments are very good advice and well taken. It wasnt long ago that a co-worker at the electric company I was at was killed up in a bucket. We should all take high power seriously. Thanks! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: You mean to say that you've never ended up with the bucket or boom in a place that you didn't expect it to get? I sure have! marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day! On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day! One time, I had to borrow a friends bucket I'll assume you meant bucket truck. The day we bought our bucket truck and brought it home, I took a 3/8 drill bit to about 3 places in the bottom of the bucket to let water out. That's not a good idea. You now give a place for electricity to run through your body if you happen to move between a ground source and an electrical line. I've thought of doing that to my truck, but it's really not hard to just dump the buckets. I've worked for several electric companies and understand the reasoning behind this. But, if you dont use a bucket near high power lines then its not an issue. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day!
Wet your fingers and grab a set of Ohm meter probes. Squeeze with all your might. Look at the Ohms. Then figure out how much current will flow with one volt. 1/5 of an Amp? Geeze. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:59 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day! Those currants are killers. Greg On Dec 10, 2009, at 10:17 AM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote: As little as 1v with enough currant will kill you. It's not voltage that kills but rather the currant. It takes 200ma to stop your hear but to get that much to the hear you have a lot of resistance to overcome and with only a small amount of voltage you need a lot of juice. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:30:12 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day! 24 volts won't kill you. 25 volts will; with enough current. :-) At 10:00 PM 12/9/2009, you wrote: By low, I was talking about 24 volts. I know the electric company calls 120 volts. My point was I'm not taking a bucket near any electrical power lines, period. Thanks! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: More people die every year from low voltage than from high. Or so I've been told. But that may not be quite right: http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/98-131/epidemi.html#fig1 Still, far too many deaths from ALL voltages. marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day! Not near high power lines. With that said, your comments are very good advice and well taken. It wasnt long ago that a co-worker at the electric company I was at was killed up in a bucket. We should all take high power seriously. Thanks! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: You mean to say that you've never ended up with the bucket or boom in a place that you didn't expect it to get? I sure have! marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day! On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day! One time, I had to borrow a friends bucket I'll assume you meant bucket truck. The day we bought our bucket truck and brought it home, I took a 3/8 drill bit to about 3 places in the bottom of the bucket to let water out. That's not a good idea. You now give a place for electricity to run through your body if you happen to move between a ground source and an electrical line. I've thought of doing that to my truck, but it's really not hard to just dump the buckets. I've worked for several electric companies and understand the reasoning behind this. But, if you dont use a bucket near high power lines then its not an issue. -RickG - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] WISP value
I concur, but for the members list, I believe. I know it was another WISPA list because I'm not on the Moto list. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:47 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP value From the Motorola thread...from what I skimmed through... 0.5 to 1.5 times gross revenue for one year WAY more information in the thread on the Motorola list. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: We are in talks to aquire a few local WISP's, I'm interested in hearing about guidelines some of you who have aquired other WISP's in the past have used to determine the value? Just looking for some general rules, how much is a subscriber worth for example, how much are their tower contracts worth, that sort of thing. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP value
Maybe I'm the only one putting these three lists together in my head... On 12/11/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I concur, but for the members list, I believe. I know it was another WISPA list because I'm not on the Moto list. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:47 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP value From the Motorola thread...from what I skimmed through... 0.5 to 1.5 times gross revenue for one year WAY more information in the thread on the Motorola list. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: We are in talks to aquire a few local WISP's, I'm interested in hearing about guidelines some of you who have aquired other WISP's in the past have used to determine the value? Just looking for some general rules, how much is a subscriber worth for example, how much are their tower contracts worth, that sort of thing. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
