Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
No problem. We really need this spectrum, as was the reason for my ramblings on the cybertelecom list about Rhetoric on Comcast vs. ATT. All they were talking about was the duoply and how the FCC is going to go before Congress so they have the authority to treat all ISP's as telcos. I was trying to make the point that (1) the FCC needs to realize there are other ISP's out there besides cable companies and telcos, and (2) To not auction off the whitespace spectrum because it will just end up in the hands of the duoply. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Steve Barnes Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 08:30:49 -0400 >Scottie that is a great link. Thankyou > >Steve Barnes >RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf >Of Scottie Arnett >Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:36 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC > > >This may have already been answered or may not be exactly what you are looking >for, but: http://showmywhitespace.com/ shows what is available. > >Scottie > >-- Original Message -- >From: "Tom DeReggi" >Reply-To: WISPA General List >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:51:26 -0400 > >>I probably wont get to it today, but I'll find the google earth overlay that >>I had that showed it, and post it to the list shortly. >> >>Tom DeReggi >>RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "Randy Cosby" >>To: "WISPA General List" >>Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:04 PM >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC >> >> >>> Tom, >>> >>> Could you give us a hint how we would find this info? >>> >>> Randy >>> It might be a good idea for WISPs to look up their Whitechannel availabilty in their areas, and determine if VHF channels 1-7 are available in their territory or not. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC > I am not sure where you get your assumptions but they are not correct. > Every > television channel has available 6 MHz of bandwidth and can be modulated > with the same amount of data regardless of where the channel resides in > the > VHF or UHF frequency bands. The limiting factor for these lowest VHF > channels is the overall higher noise level which is certainly an issue > but > not a deal killer for us. I am guessing that our use of the lowest VHF > channels would require more forward error correction to provide high > quality > service. In my opinion this is a minor annoyance to be able to have > coverage > to 100% of my potential customer base. > John Scrivner > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: > > >> Mike, though I agree that circular polarization could work. What >> channel >> width are you going to need to have a usable system. I mean in the VHF >> band >> of 54 Mhz to 88 Mhz the frequency is to slow to have any ability to >> clock >> the data through at any worth wile speed. We are supposed to be giving >> customers more bandwidth and faster service. Yes it would cut through >> trees >> and I would love it. But at 2-3X dialup speed? >> >> The upper bands are definitely better but then you lower your >> penetration >> (>800 Mhz). >> >> Someone enlighten me here. >> >> Steve Barnes >> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike >> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:24 AM >> To: 'WISPA General List' >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC >> >> Awesome report! Thanks. >> Give me equipment capable of 20 watts, circularly polarized sectors, a >> turnstile antenna on the CPE, and it would be a perfect fit for THIS >> rural >> market. At that power level, and circular polarization, I could reuse >> any >> channel on the same tower using opposite circular sense. I know some >> of >> the >> discussion in the past on this list led some to believe an antenna >> would >> look like a big TV log periodic, but it just isn't so. A TV antenna is >> by >> necessity a broadband device, and as such is BIG to handle a RANGE of >> frequencies. A turnstile or other narrow band antenna could be built >> to >> blend with the aesthetics of a home or business. Heck, if this comes >> to
Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?
LOL Stuart! I just reread you post, particularly the send question. That will be next, like health care, we'll be required to purchase it! On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote: > > How many of the 7000 are going to want it and actually pay for it ? They > don't get fined for not taking internet access do they ? > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Chuck Hogg" > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:54:39 -0400 > >>I have not...and have not decided on if I will. They have contacted me >>multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal. >> >>You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis. You are >>responsible for all subscriber equipment. You have to provide service to >>approximately 7,000 subscribers. If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is >>what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear. You cannot charge a >>setup fee. You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At >>that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront >>equipment cost. This does not take into consideration the backbone internet >>cost. You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a >>subscriber. >> >>If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber >>equipment. The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take >>his internet equipment away will be quite a hard task. >> >>None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water >>towers. You will have to negotiate access. The commercial towers are all >>Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing. >> >>You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet >>service. I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you >>access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone >>connection from for 60 days. >> >>You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor. >> >>Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any >>upgrades/maintenance. If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have >>to go and reclaim your equipment. If the company that installs the network >>uses equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours. If the >>network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment. >> >>You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back >>within 120 days. Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before >>they will repay you. >> >>I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist. You have >>the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers. You have >>to bid yearly on the contract to run the network. It would suck if you put >>up the $1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the >>contract yanked from you the following year. Good luck on getting those >>7,000 subscribers to be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose >>the contract (did I already mention that?) >> >>If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be >>interested. >> >>Regards, >>Chuck Hogg >>Shelby Broadband >>502-722-9292 >>ch...@shelbybb.com >>http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>Behalf Of RickG >>Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM >>To: WISPA General List >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? >> >>Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> >>http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ >> >>On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >>> I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but >>> you can contact me offline and I will tell you. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Chuck Hogg >>> Shelby Broadband >>> 502-722-9292 >>> ch...@shelbybb.com >>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Steven G McGehee >>> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, >>> >>> KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? >>> Thanks. >>> >>> -Steven >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup
Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?
How many of the 7000 are going to want it and actually pay for it ? They don't get fined for not taking internet access do they ? -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck Hogg" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:54:39 -0400 >I have not...and have not decided on if I will. They have contacted me >multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal. > >You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis. You are >responsible for all subscriber equipment. You have to provide service to >approximately 7,000 subscribers. If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is >what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear. You cannot charge a >setup fee. You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At >that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront >equipment cost. This does not take into consideration the backbone internet >cost. You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a >subscriber. > >If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber >equipment. The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take >his internet equipment away will be quite a hard task. > >None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water >towers. You will have to negotiate access. The commercial towers are all >Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing. > >You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet >service. I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you >access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone connection >from for 60 days. > >You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor. > >Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any >upgrades/maintenance. If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have to >go and reclaim your equipment. If the company that installs the network uses >equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours. If the >network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment. > >You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back >within 120 days. Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before >they will repay you. > >I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist. You have >the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers. You have to >bid yearly on the contract to run the network. It would suck if you put up >the $1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the contract >yanked from you the following year. Good luck on getting those 7,000 >subscribers to be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose the >contract (did I already mention that?) > >If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be interested. > >Regards, >Chuck Hogg >Shelby Broadband >502-722-9292 >ch...@shelbybb.com >http://www.shelbybb.com > > >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf >Of RickG >Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? > >Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> >http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ > >On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >> I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but >> you can contact me offline and I will tell you. >> >> Regards, >> Chuck Hogg >> Shelby Broadband >> 502-722-9292 >> ch...@shelbybb.com >> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Steven G McGehee >> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, >> >> KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? >> Thanks. >> >> -Steven >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > >--
Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?
LOL! I saw that but dont lose any sleep over it. I dont know if your very familiar with the territory but it's a true challenge. Remember, one of my subs is a ConnectedNation Senior Manager and he told me about this a long time ago. I've been over on that side of the ridge many, many times in the 3+ years I've been here and the trees and canyons are enough to send a wireless guy into a tizzy! 900MHz is not that good. On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > Doh. Looks like I am definitely not doing it. The deadline was April 5th. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? > > Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> > http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ > > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >> I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but >> you can contact me offline and I will tell you. >> >> Regards, >> Chuck Hogg >> Shelby Broadband >> 502-722-9292 >> ch...@shelbybb.com >> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Steven G McGehee >> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, >> >> KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? >> Thanks. >> >> -Steven >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?
My opinion as well! I just wondered who is brave enough. Also, Hillbilly Bob lives up one of the many hollers. Besides the forest of trees, the steep hills will prevent access to the many even with 900MHz. On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > I have not...and have not decided on if I will. They have contacted me > multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal. > > You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis. You are > responsible for all subscriber equipment. You have to provide service to > approximately 7,000 subscribers. If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is > what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear. You cannot charge a > setup fee. You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At > that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront > equipment cost. This does not take into consideration the backbone internet > cost. You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a > subscriber. > > If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber > equipment. The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take > his internet equipment away will be quite a hard task. > > None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water > towers. You will have to negotiate access. The commercial towers are all > Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing. > > You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet > service. I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you > access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone > connection from for 60 days. > > You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor. > > Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any > upgrades/maintenance. If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have > to go and reclaim your equipment. If the company that installs the network > uses equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours. If the > network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment. > > You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back > within 120 days. Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before > they will repay you. > > I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist. You have > the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers. You have > to bid yearly on the contract to run the network. It would suck if you put > up the $1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the > contract yanked from you the following year. Good luck on getting those > 7,000 subscribers to be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose > the contract (did I already mention that?) > > If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be > interested. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? > > Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> > http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ > > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >> I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but >> you can contact me offline and I will tell you. >> >> Regards, >> Chuck Hogg >> Shelby Broadband >> 502-722-9292 >> ch...@shelbybb.com >> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Steven G McGehee >> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, >> >> KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? >> Thanks. >> >> -Steven >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > --
Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?
Doh. Looks like I am definitely not doing it. The deadline was April 5th. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but > you can contact me offline and I will tell you. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Steven G McGehee > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? > > Hi all, > > I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, > > KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? > Thanks. > > -Steven > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?
I have not...and have not decided on if I will. They have contacted me multiple times, requesting me to submit a proposal. You have to bid to lease the network on a year to year basis. You are responsible for all subscriber equipment. You have to provide service to approximately 7,000 subscribers. If you put out 7,000 Canopy SM's (Which is what they are pushing) that is $1.4M in subscriber gear. You cannot charge a setup fee. You have to offer internet service for $29.95/mth for 768kbps. At that price, it will take 10 months to recoup your installation and upfront equipment cost. This does not take into consideration the backbone internet cost. You may lose the contract before you can ever recoup the cost on a subscriber. If you lose the yearly bid, you will have to go and reclaim the subscriber equipment. The problem with this is, going to Hilbilly Bob's house to take his internet equipment away will be quite a hard task. None of the water districts are going to give free access to their water towers. You will have to negotiate access. The commercial towers are all Crown, so plan on $500/mth in tower leasing. You have to do a beta test on your own dime in their area, providing internet service. I don't know many commercial tower companies that will give you access for 60 days at a cheap rate, and who you will get a backbone connection from for 60 days. You have to pay prevailing wage for all labor. Once the network is in place, you are responsible for all and any upgrades/maintenance. If you lose the bid at the end of the year, you have to go and reclaim your equipment. If the company that installs the network uses equipment you don't like, that is not their problem it is yours. If the network is hit by lightning, you are responsible for replacing the equipment. You have to provide all of the upfront capital, and they will pay you back within 120 days. Meaning, you have to put up the $550k for 120 days...before they will repay you. I hate being a pessimist, but it is hard for me to be an optimist. You have the potential of pulling in $210k per month on 7,000 subscribers. You have to bid yearly on the contract to run the network. It would suck if you put up the $1.4M to put in the equipment with the subscribers, to have the contract yanked from you the following year. Good luck on getting those 7,000 subscribers to be happy about you removing your equipment if you lose the contract (did I already mention that?) If they would do it as a bid on a 5 or 10 year term then I would be interested. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but > you can contact me offline and I will tell you. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Steven G McGehee > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? > > Hi all, > > I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, > > KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? > Thanks. > > -Steven > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --
Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?
Anyone submit a proposal to do this? --> http://connectbelp.org/tag/broadband-request-for-proposal/ On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but > you can contact me offline and I will tell you. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Steven G McGehee > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? > > Hi all, > > I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, > > KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? > Thanks. > > -Steven > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Service in Chapel Hill, NC?
Sorry to send another of these out, but does anyone know of any WISPs serving the Chapel Hill, NC area? Off-list replies appreciated, thanks. Shaddi WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service in London, KY?
I know of two WISPs in the London area. They are not on this list...but you can contact me offline and I will tell you. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steven G McGehee Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Service in London, KY? Hi all, I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? Thanks. -Steven WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
I submitted my data to them for showing my network on their map. The coverage map looked reasonably close to what we cover. I see no down side to allowing them to show that your area has broadband. I can see abig downside if this map is used for policy making and funding of where to build and you are NOT listed there. To each his own but I would rather have WISPs plastering their map myself. It would help our industry efforts I think. Scriv On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Does anyone here have any experience with Connected Nation / Connect Ohio > on > them wanting data from you for their mapping purposes? They are requesting > I > sign a non-disclosure agreement and then hand them over a list of all my > towers, coordinates, frequency's, antenna, cable loss, equipment > manufacturer, service plan speeds. Seems like they want a lot of personal > information. I am just wondering besides mapping purposes what the > secondary > uses of this collected data will be used for. > > > > Feel free to email me off-list as well. > > > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Service in London, KY?
Hi all, I was just wondering if anyone provides wireless connectivity in London, KY? Or are planning to offer service there within the next 12-18 months? Thanks. -Steven WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Stimulus waste
I look at it like this Remember the dot-coms... when these idiots run their businesses into the ground, there will be lots of good equipment to snap up at 5 cents on the dollar. marco On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote: > Tell me about it. > > -- Original Message -- > From: Bret Clark > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:49:39 -0400 > >>Yeah...one of the colleges in our state is trying for stimulus money in >>round 2 to wire-up the entire state, then specifically mentions a town >>in which we already have service in as being one of the first locations >>that would be wired from the stimulas! What the @#$% is a college doing >>getting into the ISP business and why are they @#$% trying to put local >>ISP's out of business?!?!?! >> >>I might as just well move my business to China...competition is probably >>fairer there! November can't come soon enough! >> >>Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>> We protested a project out here. >>> >>> A fiber build with wireless overlay. >>> >>> There is already fiber, DSL AND wireless. >>> >>> The project was funded anyway. >>> >>> It's not about the consumer folks And it's CERTAINLY NOT about using >>> OUR money efficiently. >>> marlon >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 6:58 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stimulus waste >>> >>> >>> I filed 32 protests during the first round of the stimulus plan, and none of them were funded. Protest long and protest often. From what I have seen so far, most of the frivolous projects have been rejected handily. Don't get all worked up about the "waste" until it finally comes to pass. It was pretty clear from looking at the first round apps that there were a lot of stupid, wasteful applications. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 4/7/2010 7:29 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > > > > Thats 26 Y E A R S of my higher end tier of service, per customer. > > Why the #3!! do things not get BID out? "Who can do X users for the > lowest $" > I mean come on, that is just horrible. It doesnt even factor in what > those new users > will be paying for the service. I need to find out if they have > applies for my area, I > manage client networks with qwest dsl and they have been giving some BS > about > upgrading modems (for a /mo fee) when all the sites have adsl2+ modems. > Not good > > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > > >> Hi, >> >> So, as I said since the Broadband Stimulus act was passed, the money >> will be wasted. Qwest just applied for $467 MILLION dollars to upgrade >> their DSL infrastructure in my coverage areas. They want to expand and >> "upgrade the slower 7meg connections" to go up to "12 to 40 megabytes >> per second". >> >> The article says they will increase coverage to 29,922 new customers. >> That's an average cost of $15,607 PER CUSTOMER. >> >> Many of the areas they list (Idaho Falls, Rexburg, Ammon, Blackfoot, >> Rigby, Shelley, etc.) already have at least 3 providers and some have 4 >> or 5 provider choices. >> >> Let the waste begin :( >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.w
[WISPA] When to route?
OK, I know: "friends don't let friends bridge networks". But at what if the networks are small? The reason I ask is I'm wondering if I'd have anything to gain by setting up static routing (now that the new UBNT beta added this to the gui). What I have is a satellite internet modem going to an MT box. The MT box is wired to an 802.11g AP/wired switch (which has wireless clients). Also wired to that switch are two backhauls with clients at the far ends. One backhaul is a pair of PS2's (the one closest to the switch is WDS Station and the far end is WDS AP with clients). The other backhaul is a pair of NS5M's running Airmax (obviously no clients) and wired to the far NS5M is a Bullet 2M running as 802.11b/g/n AP with clients. All the hardware is in the 192.168.7.x/24 range as are most of the clients, though I give some clients addresses in the 192.168.0.x/24 range to keep them isolated from the hardware and other clients. The MT box doesn't allow traffic between the 192.168.7.x and the 192.168.0.x net. ---PS2~~~PS2 with clients (192.168.0.x) / Sat modem---MT box---switch/ap with clients 192.168.7.x \ NS5M~NS5MBullet2M with clients 192.168.7.x I'm assuming now traffic for all clients transit all segments of the network i.e. traffic for a client wirelessly connected to the Bullet2M is also transiting the segment of the network comprised of the PS2's. Is that right or does the gear (in this case the switch joining the different segments of the network learn who's where and route the traffic accordingly? I'm assuming not. So if I made it so the clients on each AP were in a different subnet and static routed then traffic would only travel the pertinent network segment? Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
You can send those to me and I will convert them so long as they are vector polygons and not the Google Earth image overlays you can create from Radio Mobile. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:22 AM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data I offered to send them google earth overlays we use that come pretty close to reality but they said they couldn't use them. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:04 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data They are asking for detailed data for two reasons. One is to inform a potential consumer where you offer service with what speed and price. All of the other data is so they can run RF propagations for your whole network to develop your service area. Problem with that is from what I have seen of their work, they don't know how to do a proper RF prediction. They are using Radio Mobile but they obviously don't know how to set it up or run propagations that reflect reality in the WISP world. That being said, some WISP's have been submitting proper GIS files to show their coverage area and then giving the data for speeds and pricing. There are a few ways to accomplish this. Radio Mobile plots will not work by themselves. Those are image files and for the mapping each state needs to convert that information to some sort of GIS Vector based polygon. Some RF tools will do this directly otherwise you have to do a bunch of tedious conversion in other mapping tools. This process is pretty much the same in every state. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data Does anyone here have any experience with Connected Nation / Connect Ohio on them wanting data from you for their mapping purposes? They are requesting I sign a non-disclosure agreement and then hand them over a list of all my towers, coordinates, frequency's, antenna, cable loss, equipment manufacturer, service plan speeds. Seems like they want a lot of personal information. I am just wondering besides mapping purposes what the secondary uses of this collected data will be used for. Feel free to email me off-list as well. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
I offered to send them google earth overlays we use that come pretty close to reality but they said they couldn't use them. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:04 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data They are asking for detailed data for two reasons. One is to inform a potential consumer where you offer service with what speed and price. All of the other data is so they can run RF propagations for your whole network to develop your service area. Problem with that is from what I have seen of their work, they don't know how to do a proper RF prediction. They are using Radio Mobile but they obviously don't know how to set it up or run propagations that reflect reality in the WISP world. That being said, some WISP's have been submitting proper GIS files to show their coverage area and then giving the data for speeds and pricing. There are a few ways to accomplish this. Radio Mobile plots will not work by themselves. Those are image files and for the mapping each state needs to convert that information to some sort of GIS Vector based polygon. Some RF tools will do this directly otherwise you have to do a bunch of tedious conversion in other mapping tools. This process is pretty much the same in every state. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data Does anyone here have any experience with Connected Nation / Connect Ohio on them wanting data from you for their mapping purposes? They are requesting I sign a non-disclosure agreement and then hand them over a list of all my towers, coordinates, frequency's, antenna, cable loss, equipment manufacturer, service plan speeds. Seems like they want a lot of personal information. I am just wondering besides mapping purposes what the secondary uses of this collected data will be used for. Feel free to email me off-list as well. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
They are asking for detailed data for two reasons. One is to inform a potential consumer where you offer service with what speed and price. All of the other data is so they can run RF propagations for your whole network to develop your service area. Problem with that is from what I have seen of their work, they don't know how to do a proper RF prediction. They are using Radio Mobile but they obviously don't know how to set it up or run propagations that reflect reality in the WISP world. That being said, some WISP's have been submitting proper GIS files to show their coverage area and then giving the data for speeds and pricing. There are a few ways to accomplish this. Radio Mobile plots will not work by themselves. Those are image files and for the mapping each state needs to convert that information to some sort of GIS Vector based polygon. Some RF tools will do this directly otherwise you have to do a bunch of tedious conversion in other mapping tools. This process is pretty much the same in every state. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data Does anyone here have any experience with Connected Nation / Connect Ohio on them wanting data from you for their mapping purposes? They are requesting I sign a non-disclosure agreement and then hand them over a list of all my towers, coordinates, frequency's, antenna, cable loss, equipment manufacturer, service plan speeds. Seems like they want a lot of personal information. I am just wondering besides mapping purposes what the secondary uses of this collected data will be used for. Feel free to email me off-list as well. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
I only sent them GPS coordinates with tower height and frequency. Their spreadsheet was pretty massive so I told them that if it's for mapping purposes then what I gave them was enough for mapping purposes. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data Does anyone here have any experience with Connected Nation / Connect Ohio on them wanting data from you for their mapping purposes? They are requesting I sign a non-disclosure agreement and then hand them over a list of all my towers, coordinates, frequency's, antenna, cable loss, equipment manufacturer, service plan speeds. Seems like they want a lot of personal information. I am just wondering besides mapping purposes what the secondary uses of this collected data will be used for. Feel free to email me off-list as well. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
There as been some comment on this on the list. They just contacted us as well. My plan is to tell them to look at our website to get the coverage area. The rest is company confidential information. I do remember some folks in IL refusing to give them anything. I have not seen anything that says we have to give them data. They make it sound like it is a requirement, but I don't think that is the case. Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Does anyone here have any experience with Connected Nation / Connect Ohio on > them wanting data from you for their mapping purposes? They are requesting I > sign a non-disclosure agreement and then hand them over a list of all my > towers, coordinates, frequency's, antenna, cable loss, equipment > manufacturer, service plan speeds. Seems like they want a lot of personal > information. I am just wondering besides mapping purposes what the secondary > uses of this collected data will be used for. > > > > Feel free to email me off-list as well. > > > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] connected nation mapping data
Does anyone here have any experience with Connected Nation / Connect Ohio on them wanting data from you for their mapping purposes? They are requesting I sign a non-disclosure agreement and then hand them over a list of all my towers, coordinates, frequency's, antenna, cable loss, equipment manufacturer, service plan speeds. Seems like they want a lot of personal information. I am just wondering besides mapping purposes what the secondary uses of this collected data will be used for. Feel free to email me off-list as well. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Station box
Hello All, Does anyone know the dimentions of Station box enclosure with 5 GH 12 dBi antenna. Thanks Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released
Though I read somewhere that that's a hardware limitation. The chipset either supports it or it doesn't. Greg On Apr 10, 2010, at 1:10 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: > You can already do this via CLI > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > > > > From: "Mike Hammett" > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:04 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released > > There's a thread on their forums for feature requests, but Virtual APs has > > already been requested and it's not something they're doing immediately. > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > -- > From: "Chris Gotstein" > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:29 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released > >> Does anyone know where to send feature requests for Ubiquiti products? >> Something that i really like about Tranzeo CPQs is they have the ability >> to have 2 SSIDs assigned to them. It would be nice to have that same >> ability in the Bullets. >> >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> >> On 4/9/2010 10:26 AM, Robert West wrote: >>> Gives SOHO as a Network Mode choice now. Probably never use it, but > it's >>> there. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Gino Villarini >>> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 11:20 AM >>> To: n...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released >>> >>> Just loaded it up on a bench unit... nice improvement >>> >>> Gino A. Villarini >>> g...@aeronetpr.com >>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>> 787.273.4143 >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Nick Olsen >>> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:38 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released >>> >>> Thats not true, They my M2 sees everything from 2402.00 to 2477.00 >>> And turning on my Microwave makes the high side above 2450 go crazy. It >>> won't go any higher then power of -10, and it pegs that. >>> >>> Nick Olsen >>> Network Engineer / Customer Support >>> (321) 205-1100 x106 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "Josh Luthman" >>> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:10 AM >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released >>> >>> Ubnt radios won't see non-802.11 stuff though... >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>> continue >>> that counts." >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Michael Baird wrote: >>> You can pick up one for $75 and put an Omni on it. It's pretty good, uses the same interface as their airview analyzers, puts the AP into spectrum analysis mode and talks to a java client running on your desktop. I imagine most any wireless vendor carries them, the big deal with >>> this public release is they finally can handle noise properly and it >>> doesn't cause a reassociation. Regards Michael Baird > I am not a huge UBNT fan but I might be persuaded to buy one of >>> these for > each tower to setup as a remote Spectrum Analyzer for each tower location. > How much do these radios run and who sells them on here? > Scriv > > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Robert >>> West wrote: > > >> UBNT Beta 5.2.4 was released yesterday. (Stop the eye rolling.! J >>> ) >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm cautious with the Betas so I'm trying the new UBNT AirOS Beta firmware >> on a couple of unused AP radios out in the field. >> >> >> >> The Beta has the AirView Spectrum Analyzer in it now. Works darned good, >> looks just like the software for the little AirView devices we use. This >> one lets me set the channel scan from 4900 to 6400, gives you the ability >> to >> control whatever range you want to monitor. Nice and smooth. >>> Downfall is >> that if you do a spectral scan it takes the radio out of whatever >>> mode you >> have and it drops the use of the antenna for anything other than >>> the >> analyzer. Expected and understandable, however. No problem with >>> that. >> >> >> >> It now has the ability to set Static Routes. It's about time! I >>> will be >> playing with that little feature, off network of course, for the >>> next >> couple >> of days.
