No problem. We really need this spectrum, as was the reason for my ramblings on the cybertelecom list about Rhetoric on Comcast vs. ATT. All they were talking about was the duoply and how the FCC is going to go before Congress so they have the authority to treat all ISP's as telcos. I was trying to make the point that (1) the FCC needs to realize there are other ISP's out there besides cable companies and telcos, and (2) To not auction off the whitespace spectrum because it will just end up in the hands of the duoply.
Scottie ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 08:30:49 -0400 >Scottie that is a great link. Thankyou > >Steve Barnes >RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service > > >-----Original Message----- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf >Of Scottie Arnett >Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:36 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC > > >This may have already been answered or may not be exactly what you are looking >for, but: http://showmywhitespace.com/ shows what is available. > >Scottie > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> >Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:51:26 -0400 > >>I probably wont get to it today, but I'll find the google earth overlay that >>I had that showed it, and post it to the list shortly. >> >>Tom DeReggi >>RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Randy Cosby" <dco...@infowest.com> >>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:04 PM >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC >> >> >>> Tom, >>> >>> Could you give us a hint how we would find this info? >>> >>> Randy >>> >>>> It might be a good idea for WISPs to look up their Whitechannel >>>> availabilty >>>> in their areas, and determine if VHF channels 1-7 are available in their >>>> territory or not. >>>> >>>> Tom DeReggi >>>> RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc >>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "John Scrivner"<j...@scrivner.com> >>>> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:16 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I am not sure where you get your assumptions but they are not correct. >>>>> Every >>>>> television channel has available 6 MHz of bandwidth and can be modulated >>>>> with the same amount of data regardless of where the channel resides in >>>>> the >>>>> VHF or UHF frequency bands. The limiting factor for these lowest VHF >>>>> channels is the overall higher noise level which is certainly an issue >>>>> but >>>>> not a deal killer for us. I am guessing that our use of the lowest VHF >>>>> channels would require more forward error correction to provide high >>>>> quality >>>>> service. In my opinion this is a minor annoyance to be able to have >>>>> coverage >>>>> to 100% of my potential customer base. >>>>> John Scrivner >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Steve Barnes<st...@pcswin.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Mike, though I agree that circular polarization could work. What >>>>>> channel >>>>>> width are you going to need to have a usable system. I mean in the VHF >>>>>> band >>>>>> of 54 Mhz to 88 Mhz the frequency is to slow to have any ability to >>>>>> clock >>>>>> the data through at any worth wile speed. We are supposed to be giving >>>>>> customers more bandwidth and faster service. Yes it would cut through >>>>>> trees >>>>>> and I would love it. But at 2-3X dialup speed? >>>>>> >>>>>> The upper bands are definitely better but then you lower your >>>>>> penetration >>>>>> (>800 Mhz). >>>>>> >>>>>> Someone enlighten me here. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Barnes >>>>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Mike >>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:24 AM >>>>>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC >>>>>> >>>>>> Awesome report! Thanks. >>>>>> Give me equipment capable of 20 watts, circularly polarized sectors, a >>>>>> turnstile antenna on the CPE, and it would be a perfect fit for THIS >>>>>> rural >>>>>> market. At that power level, and circular polarization, I could reuse >>>>>> any >>>>>> channel on the same tower using opposite circular sense. I know some >>>>>> of >>>>>> the >>>>>> discussion in the past on this list led some to believe an antenna >>>>>> would >>>>>> look like a big TV log periodic, but it just isn't so. A TV antenna is >>>>>> by >>>>>> necessity a broadband device, and as such is BIG to handle a RANGE of >>>>>> frequencies. A turnstile or other narrow band antenna could be built >>>>>> to >>>>>> blend with the aesthetics of a home or business. Heck, if this comes >>>>>> to >>>>>> pass, I may go into the antenna building business just for this usage. >>>>>> >>>>>> Friendly Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike Gilchrist >>>>>> Disruptive Technologist >>>>>> Advanced Wireless Express >>>>>> P.O. Box 255 >>>>>> Toledo, IA 52342 >>>>>> 239.770.6203 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 239.770.6203 >>>>>> end_of_the_skype_highlighting >>>>>> m...@aweiowa.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Steve Barnes >>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:41 AM >>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a great report good job guys and thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Next question. I don't know any of the team personally just from your >>>>>> posts. The picture in the report, can you give us a who's who left to >>>>>> right. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Barnes >>>>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Jack Unger >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:17 PM >>>>>> To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List >>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC >>>>>> >>>>>> Last Wednesday, March 31, the WISPA FCC Committee assisted by the WISPA >>>>>> Promotions Committee met with top managers of the FCC Office of >>>>>> Engineering >>>>>> and Technology (OET) at FCC Headquarters in Washington D.C. >>>>>> to discuss the status of WISPA's TV Whitespaces filings. >>>>>> >>>>>> The following Members represented WISPA. Ryan Spott, Alex Phillips, >>>>>> John >>>>>> Scriver, and Jack Unger. The WISPA Team was assisted by Steve Coran of >>>>>> Rini/Coran LLC in Washington. >>>>>> >>>>>> All Team Members made valuable contributions to the effort and we all >>>>>> feel >>>>>> that the meeting went well. Our goal was to ask the FCC take favorable >>>>>> action soon on WISPA's Petitions to adjust the TV Whitespace rules by >>>>>> making >>>>>> corrections to several problem areas, thereby making WISP use of the >>>>>> Whitespaces more practical and more successful. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm attaching a more detailed report (.doc file) and also the official >>>>>> written filing (PDF) that WISPA is required to make after every meeting >>>>>> with >>>>>> the FCC. A copy of our FCC PowerPoint presentation is also required to >>>>>> be >>>>>> part of our written filing. 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