Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer
Seriously- according to some folks here, there isn't ANYTHING in LIFE you can encounter where the answer isn't either MikroTik or Ubiquity. (: `S -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer MT washes my clothes and folds my pants. It can do EVERYTHING! Bob- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer Why can't MT do that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Cisco router handles all of my routing so I was looking for something to go between. Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Pretty expensive version of Linux iptables. MT is a pretty solid low cost solution with lotsa support. A Pentium 4 with 2GB RAM will handle a butt load of traffic. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Netequilizer Anybody using this product? We have a pretty good set of qos in our wimax platform but was considering a netequilizer to help with a few HD video streamers we have. Sent from my iPhone --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer
Those people are not as experienced :P It does a whole bunch, but not everything. On 5/8/10, Scott Vander Dussen sc...@velociter.net wrote: Seriously- according to some folks here, there isn't ANYTHING in LIFE you can encounter where the answer isn't either MikroTik or Ubiquity. (: `S -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer MT washes my clothes and folds my pants. It can do EVERYTHING! Bob- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer Why can't MT do that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Cisco router handles all of my routing so I was looking for something to go between. Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Pretty expensive version of Linux iptables. MT is a pretty solid low cost solution with lotsa support. A Pentium 4 with 2GB RAM will handle a butt load of traffic. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Netequilizer Anybody using this product? We have a pretty good set of qos in our wimax platform but was considering a netequilizer to help with a few HD video streamers we have. Sent from my iPhone --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer
let me know when it can babysit my 4 children - then i'll buy ;-) On May 8, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: Seriously- according to some folks here, there isn't ANYTHING in LIFE you can encounter where the answer isn't either MikroTik or Ubiquity. (: `S -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer MT washes my clothes and folds my pants. It can do EVERYTHING! Bob- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer Why can't MT do that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Cisco router handles all of my routing so I was looking for something to go between. Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Pretty expensive version of Linux iptables. MT is a pretty solid low cost solution with lotsa support. A Pentium 4 with 2GB RAM will handle a butt load of traffic. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Netequilizer Anybody using this product? We have a pretty good set of qos in our wimax platform but was considering a netequilizer to help with a few HD video streamers we have. Sent from my iPhone --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer
Are you saying that they CAN'T do everything? I'm getting a headache. I need to lie down and meditate. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 1:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer Seriously- according to some folks here, there isn't ANYTHING in LIFE you can encounter where the answer isn't either MikroTik or Ubiquity. (: `S -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer MT washes my clothes and folds my pants. It can do EVERYTHING! Bob- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer Why can't MT do that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Cisco router handles all of my routing so I was looking for something to go between. Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Pretty expensive version of Linux iptables. MT is a pretty solid low cost solution with lotsa support. A Pentium 4 with 2GB RAM will handle a butt load of traffic. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Netequilizer Anybody using this product? We have a pretty good set of qos in our wimax platform but was considering a netequilizer to help with a few HD video streamers we have. Sent from my iPhone --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations?
I am looking for gear to place on one tower that is congested with non-licensed gear already. Does anyone have any suggestions on some gear that I can use for this? Looking for maybe 3 or 4 APs on this site for 360 coverage. They cannot be placed right next to one another as the top 4 corners of the building are not connected. They will be located hundreds of feet apart. Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations?
What about 3.65? Would that do? On 5/8/10, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I am looking for gear to place on one tower that is congested with non-licensed gear already. Does anyone have any suggestions on some gear that I can use for this? Looking for maybe 3 or 4 APs on this site for 360 coverage. They cannot be placed right next to one another as the top 4 corners of the building are not connected. They will be located hundreds of feet apart. Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations?
3.65 is what I use in an area that 900 is unusable except low speed alvarion gear. Packet loss is 0.008 and reliability is excellent. It's probably a little different setup than you are used to with unlicensed but well worth the time it will take to learn it. I use axxcelera but aperto looks like a good solution also. Aperto has a much better cpe price than axxcelera. Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I am looking for gear to place on one tower that is congested with non-licensed gear already. Does anyone have any suggestions on some gear that I can use for this? Looking for maybe 3 or 4 APs on this site for 360 coverage. They cannot be placed right next to one another as the top 4 corners of the building are not connected. They will be located hundreds of feet apart. Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations?
I'm not sure about 3.65 for a few reasons... I've heard conflicting info so maybe some feedback on my worries would help. I'd have to get special permission here in FL because we are in a grandfathered zone. No problem though, we have already done the necessary homework and contacted the right people. I was told by someone I trust that deploying non-exclusive licensed 3.65 gear would never be appealing to them since there are only one or two channels that one more WISP fires up some gear (legally or not) and it could take me out and there would not be much I can do due to the channel restrictions. Seems like a valid point, do you all not worry about this? Having a customer base running on a freq you can't change nor protect seems like a disaster in the making. I think the first guys who deploy would be fine but it would be really bad if the next guy took you out of commission and there was nothing you could do. Any of this valid? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 9:52 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations? What about 3.65? Would that do? On 5/8/10, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I am looking for gear to place on one tower that is congested with non-licensed gear already. Does anyone have any suggestions on some gear that I can use for this? Looking for maybe 3 or 4 APs on this site for 360 coverage. They cannot be placed right next to one another as the top 4 corners of the building are not connected. They will be located hundreds of feet apart. Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations?
Everything you said is correct, but how is that different the any of the non-licensed bands now? The main benefit is if someone else deploys they have to come to the table and work out an agreement so that everyone can live in the space. Now if to many start deploying obviously that is going to be troublesome. But again I ask how is that any different then non-licensed except you will be able to find the other party much easier due to the fcc database. The vast majority of the equipment being deployed at this time is wimax, this standard has sync that will allow many more players / towers to reuse the spectrum. The couple solutions out there that are not wimax are generally ptp or a wifi hack. Well, most wifi gear is going to be cdma and you generally will cause them more issues then they give you with lack of a sync solution. Again not really any different then non licensed. Well... other then you don't have to contend with baby monitors, wifi routers, etc etc Anthony Will Broadband Corp Scott Carullo wrote: I'm not sure about 3.65 for a few reasons... I've heard conflicting info so maybe some feedback on my worries would help. I'd have to get special permission here in FL because we are in a grandfathered zone. No problem though, we have already done the necessary homework and contacted the right people. I was told by someone I trust that deploying non-exclusive licensed 3.65 gear would never be appealing to them since there are only one or two channels that one more WISP fires up some gear (legally or not) and it could take me out and there would not be much I can do due to the channel restrictions. Seems like a valid point, do you all not worry about this? Having a customer base running on a freq you can't change nor protect seems like a disaster in the making. I think the first guys who deploy would be fine but it would be really bad if the next guy took you out of commission and there was nothing you could do. Any of this valid? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 9:52 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations? What about 3.65? Would that do? On 5/8/10, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I am looking for gear to place on one tower that is congested with non-licensed gear already. Does anyone have any suggestions on some gear that I can use for this? Looking for maybe 3 or 4 APs on this site for 360 coverage. They cannot be placed right next to one another as the top 4 corners of the building are not connected. They will be located hundreds of feet apart. Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations?
Yep, thats why I was asking about licensed PTMP gear Does anyone know if I can get a license for 3.something and use a Ubiquiti XR3 and MT? That would actually be exactly what I am looking for solution-wise for this particular site. I just have a handful of customers to hook up from here. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 10:57 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations? No experience myself but wouldn't you have the same issues in unlicensed spectrum? On 5/8/10, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I'm not sure about 3.65 for a few reasons... I've heard conflicting info so maybe some feedback on my worries would help. I'd have to get special permission here in FL because we are in a grandfathered zone. No problem though, we have already done the necessary homework and contacted the right people. I was told by someone I trust that deploying non-exclusive licensed 3.65 gear would never be appealing to them since there are only one or two channels that one more WISP fires up some gear (legally or not) and it could take me out and there would not be much I can do due to the channel restrictions. Seems like a valid point, do you all not worry about this? Having a customer base running on a freq you can't change nor protect seems like a disaster in the making. I think the first guys who deploy would be fine but it would be really bad if the next guy took you out of commission and there was nothing you could do. Any of this valid? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 9:52 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations? What about 3.65? Would that do? On 5/8/10, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I am looking for gear to place on one tower that is congested with non-licensed gear already. Does anyone have any suggestions on some gear that I can use for this? Looking for maybe 3 or 4 APs on this site for 360 coverage. They cannot be placed right next to one another as the top 4 corners of the building are not connected. They will be located hundreds of feet apart. Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations?
lol its not different from non-licensed... Could be worse because you can't move away from the noise on a different channel. See subject - LICENSED gear recommendation. I understand non-licensed gear has these issues - the entire reason I am seeking something licensed. Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Anthony will.anth...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 11:06 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations? Everything you said is correct, but how is that different the any of the non-licensed bands now? The main benefit is if someone else deploys they have to come to the table and work out an agreement so that everyone can live in the space. Now if to many start deploying obviously that is going to be troublesome. But again I ask how is that any different then non-licensed except you will be able to find the other party much easier due to the fcc database. The vast majority of the equipment being deployed at this time is wimax, this standard has sync that will allow many more players / towers to reuse the spectrum. The couple solutions out there that are not wimax are generally ptp or a wifi hack. Well, most wifi gear is going to be cdma and you generally will cause them more issues then they give you with lack of a sync solution. Again not really any different then non licensed. Well... other then you don't have to contend with baby monitors, wifi routers, etc etc Anthony Will Broadband Corp Scott Carullo wrote: I'm not sure about 3.65 for a few reasons... I've heard conflicting info so maybe some feedback on my worries would help. I'd have to get special permission here in FL because we are in a grandfathered zone. No problem though, we have already done the necessary homework and contacted the right people. I was told by someone I trust that deploying non-exclusive licensed 3.65 gear would never be appealing to them since there are only one or two channels that one more WISP fires up some gear (legally or not) and it could take me out and there would not be much I can do due to the channel restrictions. Seems like a valid point, do you all not worry about this? Having a customer base running on a freq you can't change nor protect seems like a disaster in the making. I think the first guys who deploy would be fine but it would be really bad if the next guy took you out of commission and there was nothing you could do. Any of this valid? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 9:52 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations? What about 3.65? Would that do? On 5/8/10, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I am looking for gear to place on one tower that is congested with non-licensed gear already. Does anyone have any suggestions on some gear that I can use for this? Looking for maybe 3 or 4 APs on this site for 360 coverage. They cannot be placed right next to one another as the top 4 corners of the building are not connected. They will be located hundreds of feet apart. Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations?
There is no licensed product available unless you have a license (millions of dollars) and can commit to thousands of CPE per month. Travis Microserv Scott Carullo wrote: Yep, thats why I was asking about licensed PTMP gear Does anyone know if I can get a license for 3.something and use a Ubiquiti XR3 and MT? That would actually be exactly what I am looking for solution-wise for this particular site. I just have a handful of customers to hook up from here. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 10:57 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations? No experience myself but wouldn't you have the same issues in unlicensed spectrum? On 5/8/10, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I'm not sure about 3.65 for a few reasons... I've heard conflicting info so maybe some feedback on my worries would help. I'd have to get special permission here in FL because we are in a grandfathered zone. No problem though, we have already done the necessary homework and contacted the right people. I was told by someone I trust that deploying non-exclusive licensed 3.65 gear would never be appealing to them since there are only one or two channels that one more WISP fires up some gear (legally or not) and it could take me out and there would not be much I can do due to the channel restrictions. Seems like a valid point, do you all not worry about this? Having a customer base running on a freq you can't change nor protect seems like a disaster in the making. I think the first guys who deploy would be fine but it would be really bad if the next guy took you out of commission and there was nothing you could do. Any of this valid? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 9:52 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed PTMP Gear Recommendations? What about 3.65? Would that do? On 5/8/10, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I am looking for gear to place on one tower that is congested with non-licensed gear already. Does anyone have any suggestions on some gear that I can use for this? Looking for maybe 3 or 4 APs on this site for 360 coverage. They cannot be placed right next to one another as the top 4 corners of the building are not connected. They will be located hundreds of feet apart. Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
I couldn't agree with you more. We are starting to see this on the 900 gear, and decided to just move to Canopy. Almost zero complaints since doing that. They make a very good CPE for the customers house, but with the bullets out now, it's cheaper to buy a bullet2 and 19db panel than a CPQ-19. We still use the SL2-15. I've got lots of TR-6xxx APs on the shelf as well! On 5/5/2010 10:40 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I have yet to find a Tranzeo AP that works. Pull it out and put nearly anything else in it's place. I use MT for ap's and have not looked back. How many Tranzeo ap's would you like? I've got stacks of them on the shelf (I use them for REALLY small repeater sites). marlon - Original Message - From: Kosinet Wirelesswirel...@kosinet.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:49 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
