Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes
Use a payroll processing service like Paychex or ADP. The little money they charge for this is well worth it. In our first company, we used to do this on our own and it was a ton of work. We now use Paychex, just call in our employee hours and everything is done for us. For the few employees we have, we pay well less than $200/month. On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:10 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Tom, I agree with one exception: Sole proprietor doesn't have to worry about employee withholdings. Which is really what sent me on this tangent. Its such a burden to put all this withholdings reporting crud on a Mom Pop business. I've always filed paid all my taxes but the paperwork and documentation is nearly unbearable. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes
I have thought of that, and will be going to one today, its 40 miles one way, the next cities are 60m (other direction) and 80m away. Makes it hard to take off for a day when there is so much to get done. Does not help that the IRS is gearing up to find people who do not pay for health care (or just make a mistake), or the new 1099 rules. Its all becoming enough to bankrupt small business with out a trustworthy CPA at hand. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe, only time will tell. I like him but concerned about him being so ultra-conservation. Can you find a CPA in a nearby, bigger city? Thats what I'm considering. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Mmm sounds like a good CPA! I am thinking it is time to go LLC but have learned not to trust a local CPA (everything from loose lips to horrible security breaches by the common passerby). On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Aaron D. Osgood aosg...@streamline-solutions.net wrote: Ours charges closer to $400 - AND handles the personal stuff as well. Even survived an audit from 3 years ago and came out with Uncle Sam owing us! ;-) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:32:58 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes Oh, another question if you dont mind. What rate are you paying your CPA's? My new guy wants a $750 retainer just to file my 2009 S-Corp returns. I think thats high but maybe not, who knows? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FW: Agriculture Secretary Vilsack to Hold Conference Call TODAY to Discuss the Impact of Broadband Investments in Rural America
FYI, I cannot attend this conference call, but would like someone to attend and report back. Thanks, Rick Harnish From: USDA Office of Communications [mailto:oc.n...@usda.gov] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:35 AM To: rharn...@wispa.org Subject: Agriculture Secretary Vilsack to Hold Conference Call TODAY to Discuss the Impact of Broadband Investments in Rural America https://app.icontact.com/icp/loadimage.php/mogile/590864/06069bfe335a72e304 8f7256c6a82149/image/jpeg Media Advisory No. 4109.10 Contact: USDA Office of Communications (202) 720-4623 Agriculture Secretary Vilsack to Hold Conference Call TODAY to Discuss the Impact of Broadband Investments in Rural America WASHINGTON, June 9, 2010 - TODAY, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack will host a media conference call to discuss the impact and importance of broadband funding in rural communities. Vilsack will highlight the impact of investments made through Round 1 funding of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (Recovery Act), as well as what is possible in Round 2, as USDA releases a report detailing investments made to date. Wednesday, June 9, 2010 10:30 a.m. - 11:00 a.m. WHAT: Agriculture Secretary Vilsack to host national conference call on the new report, Connecting Rural America, which outlines the projects USDA's Rural Utilities Service is funding under the first round of awards made under the Recovery Act's Broadband Initiatives Program (BIP). DETAILS: Call in: 800-857-5233 (trouble line 202-720-8560) Passcode: USDA (Given Verbally) All callers using the above pass code will be placed in listen only mode. To join the QA portion of the meeting, these callers are instructed to press *1 on their touch tone phone. _ USDA is an equal opportunity provider, employer and lender. To file a complaint of discrimination, write: USDA, Director, Office of Civil Rights, 1400 Independence Ave., SW, Washington, DC 20250-9410 or call (800) 795-3272 (voice), or (202) 720-6382 (TDD). This message was sent from USDA Office of Communications to rharn...@wispa.org. It was sent from: OC News, USDA Office of Communications 1400 Independence Ave, SW, Washington, DC 20250-1300. You can modify/update your subscription via the link below. http://app.icontact.com/icp/static/images/icons/email_manage_subscription.p ng http://app.icontact.com/icp/mmail-mprofile.pl?r=50857387l=4139s=WS57m=23 5805c=590864 Manage your subscription http://click.icptrack.com/icp/track.php?msgid=235805act=WS57r=50857387c= 590864 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes
SELF EMPLOYMENT Schedule SE Section(A) 5. Self-employment tax. If the amount on line 4 is: $106,800 or less, multiply line 4 by 15.3% (.153). Enter the result here and on Form 1040, line 56. You then get to deduct half of your self-employment tax when figuring your adjusted gross income. W2 EMPLOYMENT On your W2 you will find your 2.9% on line 6 Medicare tax withheld and 6.2% on line 4 Social security tax withheld. 2.9 + 6.2 = 9.1% The remaining 6.2% is paid by the employer and is a write off (expense) for the employer. 9.1% + 6.2% = 15.3% As a W2 employee, you don't get to deduct any portion of your social security/medicare tax from adjusted gross income, but your employer gets to claim the 6.2% that it paid. The government collects the same social security and medicare tax either way. There is a slight difference with respect to what entity gets the deduction and how much the deduction applies to. - Larry Yunker -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 1:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes If you are a subcontractor, you pay the entire 15% yourself. Subcontracting does not eliminate or reduce any social security tax obligation. It only alters who pays it. Dave RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: If I understand correctly, social security tax is 15%. In an employment situation, an employee pays 7.5% and the employer matches pays the other 7.5%. If you subcontract, you only pay 7.5% and the corp pays nothing. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: The 7.5% comes back in on self-employment tax. That is the social security tax on the self-employed. Scottie But, they're not getting unemployment taxes, and they loose 7.5% on social security taxes... On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Yeah but they get it through self employment taxes. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes Tom, I wanted to reply to this before I sent my last remarks. Rather than employee, I've been a subcontractor to my corporation since it began. These CPAs say that since I work in the company this is not a good thing because the government doesnt get all its due through payroll taxes. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Same subject, different question: Are you an employee of the corp? Good question. Again that depends. Depends on whether you are making money or investing in money. If you invest cash into a company, it usually makes sense to remove cash by paying back the investment, to avoid being double taxed on your own money, which would occur if you took payroll instead. If you are the sole owner of a S-Corp it becomes more forgiving, because at the end of the day anything you didn't take as salary, would tunnel to your personal income return anyways. But its really about what your tax braket and tax rate is for each entity, and monthly estimated tax payments would be. It about adjusting it so the least amount of tax paid upfront. If you haven't injected investment into the company, and company is making money, and you need money monthly to live, you may have no choice but to take payroll as an employee, so you can take money out when you need it, which is every month. Where as, if you live off another income source, you may not need to be an employee, and just take the income at end of the company tax year. It becomes mor complicated if multiple stock holders, as Employee payroll can be a method of defining fair compensation for time spent, before recognizing company profits. I personally am not an employee of my company, I am a stockholder. It much cleaner that way for my situation. However, I warn caution to others on that. If you anticipate needing credit for anything, so many credit things require proof of current historical monthly income. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes Same subject, different question: Are you an employee of the corp? On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We are an S-corp and have been since the first day we started. It provides personal protection against people suing you, etc. It also allows expenses by the corporation that may or may not be allowed as a sole proprietor (additional office locations, etc.). Again, you would need to check with your accountant. They are the only ones
[WISPA] DragonWave Horizon
Hey guys, Is anyone on-list a DragonWave reseller? Please hit me off-list. Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 50, Weald Hall Commercial Centre, North Weald, Essex CM17 9LD Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WISPA invites you to WISPA Summer 2010 Regional Meeting (Jul 21, 2010 - Jul 22, 2010)
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Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Cutting too many corners on backhaul is like cutting too many corners on brakes or tires. I used the ah boards for everything. More processor and memory etc. I just put in a backhaul link that pulled over 30 megs both ways on a 6 or so mile shot. My cost on it was under $800. When I bought my first backhaul link it was around $5k for a BreezeCOM DS.11 wifi link capable of a whopping 4ish megs. I've gone the cheapo route for backhaul and I've gone the nice way. It's a LOT cheaper to install good (not always great) hardware. You'll have far fewer phone calls etc. Hope that helps Steve, marlon - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:00 AM Subject: [WISPA] Repeater I have avoided repeaters like the plague but I have a situation where I have one and I am looking for a better option. When I started my wisp I was 100% Tranzeo. At this one location I setup a CPE connected to a TR-6000 that has 2 Ethernet ports that pass through POE. I ran 1 Ethernet up the tower with a POE at the bottom, and a crossover in between. I would like a similar layout for other locations. Issue I see is that not many other units, UBNT or MT have a 2nd Ethernet that pass through POE? How does everyone you get around this? Trying to stay cheaper than a RB433, 2 radios, and 2- antennas, box, pigtails, 2 LMR cables. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] West Coast WISPA activities?
Hi Alex, Nothing going on? There are THREE of us west coasters that are on the WISPA board. The left coast is certainly holding up it's end of the association. There are several WISPs around me here. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] West Coast WISPA activities? There's an organization out there called CISPA - California ISP Association www.cispa.org -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alex Perez Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] West Coast WISPA activities? Hi folks, I've been lurking on the lists for a few weeks now, and don't really see any activity by ISPs in the western united states (PST/PDT). Is anybody out there? I'm in Silicon Valley, and believe it or not, there are lots of folks with almost zero terrestrial wireless options at 3+ megabits on the periphery of Silicon Valley. If you're out there, any chance we can talk off-list? Regards, Alex Perez WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes
But there is no facility to pay the 15% if your a subcontractor. See Line 27 on 1040. They give you back a credit for 1/2 of the 15% so you only pay 7.5%. I'm not trying to get out of anything, just noting that there is no way to pay it entirely IF youre a subcontractor. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:01 AM, David Sovereen david.sover...@mercury.net wrote: If you are a subcontractor, you pay the entire 15% yourself. Subcontracting does not eliminate or reduce any social security tax obligation. It only alters who pays it. Dave RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: If I understand correctly, social security tax is 15%. In an employment situation, an employee pays 7.5% and the employer matches pays the other 7.5%. If you subcontract, you only pay 7.5% and the corp pays nothing. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: The 7.5% comes back in on self-employment tax. That is the social security tax on the self-employed. Scottie But, they're not getting unemployment taxes, and they loose 7.5% on social security taxes... On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Yeah but they get it through self employment taxes. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes Tom, I wanted to reply to this before I sent my last remarks. Rather than employee, I've been a subcontractor to my corporation since it began. These CPAs say that since I work in the company this is not a good thing because the government doesnt get all its due through payroll taxes. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Same subject, different question: Are you an employee of the corp? Good question. Again that depends. Depends on whether you are making money or investing in money. If you invest cash into a company, it usually makes sense to remove cash by paying back the investment, to avoid being double taxed on your own money, which would occur if you took payroll instead. If you are the sole owner of a S-Corp it becomes more forgiving, because at the end of the day anything you didn't take as salary, would tunnel to your personal income return anyways. But its really about what your tax braket and tax rate is for each entity, and monthly estimated tax payments would be. It about adjusting it so the least amount of tax paid upfront. If you haven't injected investment into the company, and company is making money, and you need money monthly to live, you may have no choice but to take payroll as an employee, so you can take money out when you need it, which is every month. Where as, if you live off another income source, you may not need to be an employee, and just take the income at end of the company tax year. It becomes mor complicated if multiple stock holders, as Employee payroll can be a method of defining fair compensation for time spent, before recognizing company profits. I personally am not an employee of my company, I am a stockholder. It much cleaner that way for my situation. However, I warn caution to others on that. If you anticipate needing credit for anything, so many credit things require proof of current historical monthly income. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes Same subject, different question: Are you an employee of the corp? On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We are an S-corp and have been since the first day we started. It provides personal protection against people suing you, etc. It also allows expenses by the corporation that may or may not be allowed as a sole proprietor (additional office locations, etc.). Again, you would need to check with your accountant. They are the only ones that can give you exact information. Travis Microserv RickG wrote: Its tempting to use a known CPA that is versed in our industry but I've had issues dealing with those out of state. With that said, I'm curious as to feedback on another issue. Who here is doing business as a sole proprietor? I've been an S-Corp for years but considering switching back due to its simplicity. This Corp stuff doesnt seem worth all the hassle. Thanks! On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I'm with Travis on this one. Sometimes we take the entire hit at once, other times we spread it out. It kind of depends on what we need for deductions and what the equipment is. Our accountant has taken a lot of time to learn this industry and is really good. The phone
Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes
ROFLOL Rick I could KISS you! My accountant has been telling me that for over a decade. I'd ask when we're going to incorporate and he'd say that there is no need to. We don't have much liability and what we do have is handled by insurance. If we had more employees or people driving company rigs etc. it would be different. But when I'm the only one in the field or am directly supervising anyone that is the risks to what we've got are pretty small. We are finally big enough that I've formed an LLC. I wanted a c or s corp so I could have the .inc in our name. Between the lawyer and the accountant they managed to convince me that an LLC is perfectly legit these days and it doesn't have the problems associated with a c or s corp. The corp is going to take ownership of the bucket truck because we feel that's got the highest risk associated to it. The corp will probably also start renting the office from me. I hate playing the game but if you want to grow and prosper Personally I love being a sole proprietor. If I want to take an old computer home I can. No paper trail to worry about. We've been a sole proprietor for over 15 years now. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes Its tempting to use a known CPA that is versed in our industry but I've had issues dealing with those out of state. With that said, I'm curious as to feedback on another issue. Who here is doing business as a sole proprietor? I've been an S-Corp for years but considering switching back due to its simplicity. This Corp stuff doesnt seem worth all the hassle. Thanks! On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I'm with Travis on this one. Sometimes we take the entire hit at once, other times we spread it out. It kind of depends on what we need for deductions and what the equipment is. Our accountant has taken a lot of time to learn this industry and is really good. The phone number is 509.982.2922 if anyone is looking for a good one. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] taxes Travis, thanks for your input. I'm really looking for feedback as to what our industry's standard is. I submit that the IRS does not look at it as a personal, business choice. I'd rather do it correctly now than find out from the IRS I'm doing it wrong. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: This is a personal, business choice. There is no set answer. Some of our equipment we expense and some we depreciate. It all depends on what tax breaks you need now vs. later. Travis Microserv RickG wrote: Everyone's favorite subject :) I'm getting mixed information form my accountants on this and want to know what everyone else is doing. The basic question is this: Are you expensing or depreciating the equipment? Equipment being radios (AP CPE), antennas, switches, firewalls, etc. With the cost of the electronics being so low, its not making much sense to depreciate. Which takes me to a second question: Have any WISPs been audited by the IRS for this reason? Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes
Then please tell me why these CPA's are claiming that by not being on the payroll you are not paying all taxes? From what I can tell you are then. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Larry Yunker leyun...@wispadvantage.com wrote: SELF EMPLOYMENT Schedule SE Section(A) 5. Self-employment tax. If the amount on line 4 is: $106,800 or less, multiply line 4 by 15.3% (.153). Enter the result here and on Form 1040, line 56. You then get to deduct half of your self-employment tax when figuring your adjusted gross income. W2 EMPLOYMENT On your W2 you will find your 2.9% on line 6 Medicare tax withheld and 6.2% on line 4 Social security tax withheld. 2.9 + 6.2 = 9.1% The remaining 6.2% is paid by the employer and is a write off (expense) for the employer. 9.1% + 6.2% = 15.3% As a W2 employee, you don't get to deduct any portion of your social security/medicare tax from adjusted gross income, but your employer gets to claim the 6.2% that it paid. The government collects the same social security and medicare tax either way. There is a slight difference with respect to what entity gets the deduction and how much the deduction applies to. - Larry Yunker -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 1:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes If you are a subcontractor, you pay the entire 15% yourself. Subcontracting does not eliminate or reduce any social security tax obligation. It only alters who pays it. Dave RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: If I understand correctly, social security tax is 15%. In an employment situation, an employee pays 7.5% and the employer matches pays the other 7.5%. If you subcontract, you only pay 7.5% and the corp pays nothing. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: The 7.5% comes back in on self-employment tax. That is the social security tax on the self-employed. Scottie But, they're not getting unemployment taxes, and they loose 7.5% on social security taxes... On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Yeah but they get it through self employment taxes. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes Tom, I wanted to reply to this before I sent my last remarks. Rather than employee, I've been a subcontractor to my corporation since it began. These CPAs say that since I work in the company this is not a good thing because the government doesnt get all its due through payroll taxes. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Same subject, different question: Are you an employee of the corp? Good question. Again that depends. Depends on whether you are making money or investing in money. If you invest cash into a company, it usually makes sense to remove cash by paying back the investment, to avoid being double taxed on your own money, which would occur if you took payroll instead. If you are the sole owner of a S-Corp it becomes more forgiving, because at the end of the day anything you didn't take as salary, would tunnel to your personal income return anyways. But its really about what your tax braket and tax rate is for each entity, and monthly estimated tax payments would be. It about adjusting it so the least amount of tax paid upfront. If you haven't injected investment into the company, and company is making money, and you need money monthly to live, you may have no choice but to take payroll as an employee, so you can take money out when you need it, which is every month. Where as, if you live off another income source, you may not need to be an employee, and just take the income at end of the company tax year. It becomes mor complicated if multiple stock holders, as Employee payroll can be a method of defining fair compensation for time spent, before recognizing company profits. I personally am not an employee of my company, I am a stockholder. It much cleaner that way for my situation. However, I warn caution to others on that. If you anticipate needing credit for anything, so many credit things require proof of current historical monthly income. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes Same subject, different question: Are you an employee of the corp? On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We are an S-corp and have been since the first day we started. It provides
Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes
If you are the only one in the company or if you are the reason that someone is suing they'll go after the corporate officers (you) anyway. The corporate veil isn't nearly what it used to be. So says the accountant and the lawyer marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes We are an S-corp and have been since the first day we started. It provides personal protection against people suing you, etc. It also allows expenses by the corporation that may or may not be allowed as a sole proprietor (additional office locations, etc.). Again, you would need to check with your accountant. They are the only ones that can give you exact information. Travis Microserv RickG wrote: Its tempting to use a known CPA that is versed in our industry but I've had issues dealing with those out of state. With that said, I'm curious as to feedback on another issue. Who here is doing business as a sole proprietor? I've been an S-Corp for years but considering switching back due to its simplicity. This Corp stuff doesnt seem worth all the hassle. Thanks! On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I'm with Travis on this one. Sometimes we take the entire hit at once, other times we spread it out. It kind of depends on what we need for deductions and what the equipment is. Our accountant has taken a lot of time to learn this industry and is really good. The phone number is 509.982.2922 if anyone is looking for a good one. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] taxes Travis, thanks for your input. I'm really looking for feedback as to what our industry's standard is. I submit that the IRS does not look at it as a personal, business choice. I'd rather do it correctly now than find out from the IRS I'm doing it wrong. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: This is a personal, business choice. There is no set answer. Some of our equipment we expense and some we depreciate. It all depends on what tax breaks you need now vs. later. Travis Microserv RickG wrote: Everyone's favorite subject :) I'm getting mixed information form my accountants on this and want to know what everyone else is doing. The basic question is this: Are you expensing or depreciating the equipment? Equipment being radios (AP CPE), antennas, switches, firewalls, etc. With the cost of the electronics being so low, its not making much sense to depreciate. Which takes me to a second question: Have any WISPs been audited by the IRS for this reason? Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Repeater
The question then becomes, would you spend $800 for a one sub repeater? On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Cutting too many corners on backhaul is like cutting too many corners on brakes or tires. I used the ah boards for everything. More processor and memory etc. I just put in a backhaul link that pulled over 30 megs both ways on a 6 or so mile shot. My cost on it was under $800. When I bought my first backhaul link it was around $5k for a BreezeCOM DS.11 wifi link capable of a whopping 4ish megs. I've gone the cheapo route for backhaul and I've gone the nice way. It's a LOT cheaper to install good (not always great) hardware. You'll have far fewer phone calls etc. Hope that helps Steve, marlon - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:00 AM Subject: [WISPA] Repeater I have avoided repeaters like the plague but I have a situation where I have one and I am looking for a better option. When I started my wisp I was 100% Tranzeo. At this one location I setup a CPE connected to a TR-6000 that has 2 Ethernet ports that pass through POE. I ran 1 Ethernet up the tower with a POE at the bottom, and a crossover in between. I would like a similar layout for other locations. Issue I see is that not many other units, UBNT or MT have a 2nd Ethernet that pass through POE? How does everyone you get around this? Trying to stay cheaper than a RB433, 2 radios, and 2- antennas, box, pigtails, 2 LMR cables. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Repeater
I've tried it a couple of times and never had enough signal to make it work. If you have a -70 signal at the first receive antenna then you're basically going to transmit at -70 or so (instead of + 1 or 3). Running the calcs it looks like a receive signal of -132 at 2 miles. Remember, at 2.4 gig you gain 6 db every time you halve your distance. So at 1 mile it would be -126, half mile would be -120 and 1/4th mile you'd still only see a receive signal of about -114. Near as I can tell this only works well if you have a LOT of power. marlon - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater Ok I have never even thought about doing this. Does it actually work? This sounds WAY to simple. A 29Db Grid on a Grain Leg pointed at the AP that has a -68 signal plugged into a 24 DB Grid Pointed to the house 1/4 mile away. What kind of signal would you have on the back side at the house? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater One option to consider is a passive repeater. Wire a coax cable between the two dishes and you are done... no electronics to fail, no power to supply on a remote location. (haven't tested this trick with dual polarity, though) Rubens On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: I have avoided repeaters like the plague but I have a situation where I have one and I am looking for a better option. When I started my wisp I was 100% Tranzeo. At this one location I setup a CPE connected to a TR-6000 that has 2 Ethernet ports that pass through POE. I ran 1 Ethernet up the tower with a POE at the bottom, and a crossover in between. I would like a similar layout for other locations. Issue I see is that not many other units, UBNT or MT have a 2nd Ethernet that pass through POE? How does everyone you get around this? Trying to stay cheaper than a RB433, 2 radios, and 2- antennas, box, pigtails, 2 LMR cables. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes
LOL! The game is right! Happy LLCing :) On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: ROFLOL Rick I could KISS you! My accountant has been telling me that for over a decade. I'd ask when we're going to incorporate and he'd say that there is no need to. We don't have much liability and what we do have is handled by insurance. If we had more employees or people driving company rigs etc. it would be different. But when I'm the only one in the field or am directly supervising anyone that is the risks to what we've got are pretty small. We are finally big enough that I've formed an LLC. I wanted a c or s corp so I could have the .inc in our name. Between the lawyer and the accountant they managed to convince me that an LLC is perfectly legit these days and it doesn't have the problems associated with a c or s corp. The corp is going to take ownership of the bucket truck because we feel that's got the highest risk associated to it. The corp will probably also start renting the office from me. I hate playing the game but if you want to grow and prosper Personally I love being a sole proprietor. If I want to take an old computer home I can. No paper trail to worry about. We've been a sole proprietor for over 15 years now. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] legal entity type - was taxes Its tempting to use a known CPA that is versed in our industry but I've had issues dealing with those out of state. With that said, I'm curious as to feedback on another issue. Who here is doing business as a sole proprietor? I've been an S-Corp for years but considering switching back due to its simplicity. This Corp stuff doesnt seem worth all the hassle. Thanks! On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I'm with Travis on this one. Sometimes we take the entire hit at once, other times we spread it out. It kind of depends on what we need for deductions and what the equipment is. Our accountant has taken a lot of time to learn this industry and is really good. The phone number is 509.982.2922 if anyone is looking for a good one. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] taxes Travis, thanks for your input. I'm really looking for feedback as to what our industry's standard is. I submit that the IRS does not look at it as a personal, business choice. I'd rather do it correctly now than find out from the IRS I'm doing it wrong. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: This is a personal, business choice. There is no set answer. Some of our equipment we expense and some we depreciate. It all depends on what tax breaks you need now vs. later. Travis Microserv RickG wrote: Everyone's favorite subject :) I'm getting mixed information form my accountants on this and want to know what everyone else is doing. The basic question is this: Are you expensing or depreciating the equipment? Equipment being radios (AP CPE), antennas, switches, firewalls, etc. With the cost of the electronics being so low, its not making much sense to depreciate. Which takes me to a second question: Have any WISPs been audited by the IRS for this reason? Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
[WISPA] CROSS POST: Request for Proposal - OneCommunity'sConnect Your Community
FYI From: nten-disc...@groups.nten.org [mailto:nten-disc...@groups.nten.org] On Behalf Of Angela Siefer Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 7:15 PM To: nten-disc...@groups.nten.org Subject: [NTEN Discuss] Request for Proposal - OneCommunity'sConnect Your Community Request for Proposal for OneCommunity's Connect Your Community program (CYC Program) RFP# 06-01-2010-CYC Prospective Responder to RFP: You are invited to submit a proposal for OneCommunity's CYC project in accordance with the requirements set forth in the attached request for proposal (RFP), which is also available on-line at http://www.onecommunity.org/uploadedFiles/CYC_RFP_06_01_2010.pdf . OneCommunity is a non-profit technology corporation providing ultra high speed network services to healthcare, education, government and non-profit civic institutions in Northeast Ohio. It currently operates a fiber optic network serving the Northeast Ohio that is one of the largest and fastest in the world. OneCommunity provides access to this network in areas most in need of broadband options for adoption, such as through extensive wireless networks providing access to many who could not otherwise afford it. Together with our seven local community administrator (LCA) partners, OneCommunity has been awarded funding under the American Recovery Reinvestment Act, through NTIA's BTOP program, for the CYC program under the sustainable broadband adoption category to train and support the adoption of broadband by 26,000 people over a 2 year period This RFP seeks proposals to design and construct a web-based application to support the administration, operation, management reporting and analytical needs of the CYC program. If you intend to respond to the RFP, a non-binding letter of intent should be submitted to Deb Canale (dcan...@onecommunity.org) in writing, by fax or, preferably, by e-mail, and be received no later than Monday, June 14, 2010 (see section 1.3 of the RFP). The original, 2 copies, and an electronic MS word or PDF version of your proposal must be received not later than 5:00 EST on June 25, 2010, or your proposal will otherwise be disqualified. OneCommunity desires to act quickly, and intends to identify the provider whose proposal is the best solution for our project on or about June 30, 2010. We will notify all providers, whether they are disqualified, rejected, or unsuccessful although responsive. Thank you for your time, effort, and interest in our Connect Your Community program (CYC Program). Angela Siefer ShinyDoor O: 614 .537.3057 http://www.shinydoor.com/ Website| http://www.twitter.com/AngelaSiefer Twitter | http://www.linkedin.com/in/angelasiefer LinkedIn ~~~~~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Affinity Group Links: * To reply to sender (Angela Siefer): ang...@shinydoor.com * To view sender's profile, click this link: Angela http://groups.nten.org/profile.htm?mode=vppid=92773 Siefer * To visit this affinity group on the web, go to: view affinity group http://groups.nten.org/group.htm?igid=6422 * To send email to entire affinity group: nten-disc...@groups.nten.org * To email the affinity group moderator(s) (Holly, Annaliese): nten-discuss-modera...@groups.nten.org * Stop email from this affinity group: nten-discuss-unsubscr...@groups.nten.org * To remove yourself from this affinity group, send email to: nten-discuss-rem...@groups.nten.org * UNSUBSCRIBE or change delivery settings (via the Web): edit http://groups.nten.org/p.htm?m=qsem=oz...@maine.rr.comsk=lonm72 delivery settings Powered by GoLightly, NTEN's collaboration and community platform. http://www.golightly.com/ ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~--~--~ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Nope. But my 1 sub customer's have! grin marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater The question then becomes, would you spend $800 for a one sub repeater? On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Cutting too many corners on backhaul is like cutting too many corners on brakes or tires. I used the ah boards for everything. More processor and memory etc. I just put in a backhaul link that pulled over 30 megs both ways on a 6 or so mile shot. My cost on it was under $800. When I bought my first backhaul link it was around $5k for a BreezeCOM DS.11 wifi link capable of a whopping 4ish megs. I've gone the cheapo route for backhaul and I've gone the nice way. It's a LOT cheaper to install good (not always great) hardware. You'll have far fewer phone calls etc. Hope that helps Steve, marlon - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:00 AM Subject: [WISPA] Repeater I have avoided repeaters like the plague but I have a situation where I have one and I am looking for a better option. When I started my wisp I was 100% Tranzeo. At this one location I setup a CPE connected to a TR-6000 that has 2 Ethernet ports that pass through POE. I ran 1 Ethernet up the tower with a POE at the bottom, and a crossover in between. I would like a similar layout for other locations. Issue I see is that not many other units, UBNT or MT have a 2nd Ethernet that pass through POE? How does everyone you get around this? Trying to stay cheaper than a RB433, 2 radios, and 2- antennas, box, pigtails, 2 LMR cables. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Repeater
So it could work on a licensed or ham radio link that is pumping out 50+ watts? On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I've tried it a couple of times and never had enough signal to make it work. If you have a -70 signal at the first receive antenna then you're basically going to transmit at -70 or so (instead of + 1 or 3). Running the calcs it looks like a receive signal of -132 at 2 miles. Remember, at 2.4 gig you gain 6 db every time you halve your distance. So at 1 mile it would be -126, half mile would be -120 and 1/4th mile you'd still only see a receive signal of about -114. Near as I can tell this only works well if you have a LOT of power. marlon - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater Ok I have never even thought about doing this. Does it actually work? This sounds WAY to simple. A 29Db Grid on a Grain Leg pointed at the AP that has a -68 signal plugged into a 24 DB Grid Pointed to the house 1/4 mile away. What kind of signal would you have on the back side at the house? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater One option to consider is a passive repeater. Wire a coax cable between the two dishes and you are done... no electronics to fail, no power to supply on a remote location. (haven't tested this trick with dual polarity, though) Rubens On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: I have avoided repeaters like the plague but I have a situation where I have one and I am looking for a better option. When I started my wisp I was 100% Tranzeo. At this one location I setup a CPE connected to a TR-6000 that has 2 Ethernet ports that pass through POE. I ran 1 Ethernet up the tower with a POE at the bottom, and a crossover in between. I would like a similar layout for other locations. Issue I see is that not many other units, UBNT or MT have a 2nd Ethernet that pass through POE? How does everyone you get around this? Trying to stay cheaper than a RB433, 2 radios, and 2- antennas, box, pigtails, 2 LMR cables. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems
So we get an angry call from a customer demanding that we come out to fix their computer, because their Internet hasn't worked for a couple of months. Check the system logs, and yes - her link has been down for 13 days. Since we have an automated system that calls every two days when a customer is down for 48hours or longer, and then we have office staff call nearly every day after that period until we get an answer. At fourteen days, she had received no less than eight phone calls, none of which had been answered. We are very proactive about customer outages. Customer also had a long history of not responding to phone calls and had twice not been at home when our tech made the 50 mile round trip to her house. There was a bit of a history there. Now that we had her on the phone, we dropped everything and sent the nearest available tech to look at the problem. She has no idea how much of an effort that is right now because we have had THREE major hailstorms and multiple tornadoes come through our area in the last two weeks and all of our service staff and contractors are booked solid for two weeks to deal with radios damaged by the storms, ripped off of roofs, or re-aimed by the strong winds. It all boiled down to two simple things, one that is very common and one that we had never come across before. 1) Her POE was plugged in backwards. 2) After plugging in the POE, she was still getting a page could not be displayed page in Internet Explorer. Tech sat down and started doing some testing to see what was going on. Pings were fine, email seemed to work fine, technician's laptop got on and was able to do everything normal on her connection. Plugged it back into her computer and got the same error. Tech puts in our home page and it comes right up. Checks browser settings and find out that she had set her HOME PAGE to the dnserror.htm file (IE - the file that comes up when DNS isn't working) - which was putting up an error everytime she started her browser. #...@#$%@#...@#$%@#! Her next bill will have a $35 service call attached to it. I'd like to deliver it wrapped around a large rock through a window, but we will probably just put it in the mail. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems
EEE GADS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List; Mikrotik discussions Subject: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems So we get an angry call from a customer demanding that we come out to fix their computer, because their Internet hasn't worked for a couple of months. Check the system logs, and yes - her link has been down for 13 days. Since we have an automated system that calls every two days when a customer is down for 48hours or longer, and then we have office staff call nearly every day after that period until we get an answer. At fourteen days, she had received no less than eight phone calls, none of which had been answered. We are very proactive about customer outages. Customer also had a long history of not responding to phone calls and had twice not been at home when our tech made the 50 mile round trip to her house. There was a bit of a history there. Now that we had her on the phone, we dropped everything and sent the nearest available tech to look at the problem. She has no idea how much of an effort that is right now because we have had THREE major hailstorms and multiple tornadoes come through our area in the last two weeks and all of our service staff and contractors are booked solid for two weeks to deal with radios damaged by the storms, ripped off of roofs, or re-aimed by the strong winds. It all boiled down to two simple things, one that is very common and one that we had never come across before. 1) Her POE was plugged in backwards. 2) After plugging in the POE, she was still getting a page could not be displayed page in Internet Explorer. Tech sat down and started doing some testing to see what was going on. Pings were fine, email seemed to work fine, technician's laptop got on and was able to do everything normal on her connection. Plugged it back into her computer and got the same error. Tech puts in our home page and it comes right up. Checks browser settings and find out that she had set her HOME PAGE to the dnserror.htm file (IE - the file that comes up when DNS isn't working) - which was putting up an error everytime she started her browser. #...@#$%@#...@#$%@#! Her next bill will have a $35 service call attached to it. I'd like to deliver it wrapped around a large rock through a window, but we will probably just put it in the mail. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems
When a customer costs more then what you earn make her a Jetson. YOU'RE FIRED!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: EEE GADS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List; Mikrotik discussions Subject: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems So we get an angry call from a customer demanding that we come out to fix their computer, because their Internet hasn't worked for a couple of months. Check the system logs, and yes - her link has been down for 13 days. Since we have an automated system that calls every two days when a customer is down for 48hours or longer, and then we have office staff call nearly every day after that period until we get an answer. At fourteen days, she had received no less than eight phone calls, none of which had been answered. We are very proactive about customer outages. Customer also had a long history of not responding to phone calls and had twice not been at home when our tech made the 50 mile round trip to her house. There was a bit of a history there. Now that we had her on the phone, we dropped everything and sent the nearest available tech to look at the problem. She has no idea how much of an effort that is right now because we have had THREE major hailstorms and multiple tornadoes come through our area in the last two weeks and all of our service staff and contractors are booked solid for two weeks to deal with radios damaged by the storms, ripped off of roofs, or re-aimed by the strong winds. It all boiled down to two simple things, one that is very common and one that we had never come across before. 1) Her POE was plugged in backwards. 2) After plugging in the POE, she was still getting a page could not be displayed page in Internet Explorer. Tech sat down and started doing some testing to see what was going on. Pings were fine, email seemed to work fine, technician's laptop got on and was able to do everything normal on her connection. Plugged it back into her computer and got the same error. Tech puts in our home page and it comes right up. Checks browser settings and find out that she had set her HOME PAGE to the dnserror.htm file (IE - the file that comes up when DNS isn't working) - which was putting up an error everytime she started her browser. #...@#$%@#...@#$%@#! Her next bill will have a $35 service call attached to it. I'd like to deliver it wrapped around a large rock through a window, but we will probably just put it in the mail. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems
That is classic ! On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: When a customer costs more then what you earn make her a Jetson. YOU'RE FIRED!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: EEE GADS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List; Mikrotik discussions Subject: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems So we get an angry call from a customer demanding that we come out to fix their computer, because their Internet hasn't worked for a couple of months. Check the system logs, and yes - her link has been down for 13 days. Since we have an automated system that calls every two days when a customer is down for 48hours or longer, and then we have office staff call nearly every day after that period until we get an answer. At fourteen days, she had received no less than eight phone calls, none of which had been answered. We are very proactive about customer outages. Customer also had a long history of not responding to phone calls and had twice not been at home when our tech made the 50 mile round trip to her house. There was a bit of a history there. Now that we had her on the phone, we dropped everything and sent the nearest available tech to look at the problem. She has no idea how much of an effort that is right now because we have had THREE major hailstorms and multiple tornadoes come through our area in the last two weeks and all of our service staff and contractors are booked solid for two weeks to deal with radios damaged by the storms, ripped off of roofs, or re-aimed by the strong winds. It all boiled down to two simple things, one that is very common and one that we had never come across before. 1) Her POE was plugged in backwards. 2) After plugging in the POE, she was still getting a page could not be displayed page in Internet Explorer. Tech sat down and started doing some testing to see what was going on. Pings were fine, email seemed to work fine, technician's laptop got on and was able to do everything normal on her connection. Plugged it back into her computer and got the same error. Tech puts in our home page and it comes right up. Checks browser settings and find out that she had set her HOME PAGE to the dnserror.htm file (IE - the file that comes up when DNS isn't working) - which was putting up an error everytime she started her browser. #...@#$%@#...@#$%@#! Her next bill will have a $35 service call attached to it. I'd like to deliver it wrapped around a large rock through a window, but we will probably just put it in the mail. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems
dnserror.htm is my favorite home page. I NEVER have any problems with it. I recommend dnserror.htm to anyone who will listen. dnserror.htm IS DA BOMB! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:55 PM To: WISPA General List; Mikrotik discussions Subject: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems So we get an angry call from a customer demanding that we come out to fix their computer, because their Internet hasn't worked for a couple of months. Check the system logs, and yes - her link has been down for 13 days. Since we have an automated system that calls every two days when a customer is down for 48hours or longer, and then we have office staff call nearly every day after that period until we get an answer. At fourteen days, she had received no less than eight phone calls, none of which had been answered. We are very proactive about customer outages. Customer also had a long history of not responding to phone calls and had twice not been at home when our tech made the 50 mile round trip to her house. There was a bit of a history there. Now that we had her on the phone, we dropped everything and sent the nearest available tech to look at the problem. She has no idea how much of an effort that is right now because we have had THREE major hailstorms and multiple tornadoes come through our area in the last two weeks and all of our service staff and contractors are booked solid for two weeks to deal with radios damaged by the storms, ripped off of roofs, or re-aimed by the strong winds. It all boiled down to two simple things, one that is very common and one that we had never come across before. 1) Her POE was plugged in backwards. 2) After plugging in the POE, she was still getting a page could not be displayed page in Internet Explorer. Tech sat down and started doing some testing to see what was going on. Pings were fine, email seemed to work fine, technician's laptop got on and was able to do everything normal on her connection. Plugged it back into her computer and got the same error. Tech puts in our home page and it comes right up. Checks browser settings and find out that she had set her HOME PAGE to the dnserror.htm file (IE - the file that comes up when DNS isn't working) - which was putting up an error everytime she started her browser. #...@#$%@#...@#$%@#! Her next bill will have a $35 service call attached to it. I'd like to deliver it wrapped around a large rock through a window, but we will probably just put it in the mail. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems
Fired. Fired. Fired. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems When a customer costs more then what you earn make her a Jetson. YOU'RE FIRED!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: EEE GADS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List; Mikrotik discussions Subject: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems So we get an angry call from a customer demanding that we come out to fix their computer, because their Internet hasn't worked for a couple of months. Check the system logs, and yes - her link has been down for 13 days. Since we have an automated system that calls every two days when a customer is down for 48hours or longer, and then we have office staff call nearly every day after that period until we get an answer. At fourteen days, she had received no less than eight phone calls, none of which had been answered. We are very proactive about customer outages. Customer also had a long history of not responding to phone calls and had twice not been at home when our tech made the 50 mile round trip to her house. There was a bit of a history there. Now that we had her on the phone, we dropped everything and sent the nearest available tech to look at the problem. She has no idea how much of an effort that is right now because we have had THREE major hailstorms and multiple tornadoes come through our area in the last two weeks and all of our service staff and contractors are booked solid for two weeks to deal with radios damaged by the storms, ripped off of roofs, or re-aimed by the strong winds. It all boiled down to two simple things, one that is very common and one that we had never come across before. 1) Her POE was plugged in backwards. 2) After plugging in the POE, she was still getting a page could not be displayed page in Internet Explorer. Tech sat down and started doing some testing to see what was going on. Pings were fine, email seemed to work fine, technician's laptop got on and was able to do everything normal on her connection. Plugged it back into her computer and got the same error. Tech puts in our home page and it comes right up. Checks browser settings and find out that she had set her HOME PAGE to the dnserror.htm file (IE - the file that comes up when DNS isn't working) - which was putting up an error everytime she started her browser. #...@#$%@#...@#$%@#! Her next bill will have a $35 service call attached to it. I'd like to deliver it wrapped around a large rock through a window, but we will probably just put it in the mail. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems
Don't chuckle much, my boy. Drove down old Miami Trace road yesterday, saw the last customer I fired displaying the yard sign of your pal, Country Connections! ENJOY! It shall be a short relationship! You know, the one who I made the big spectacle of YIKES! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems That is classic ! On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: When a customer costs more then what you earn make her a Jetson. YOU'RE FIRED!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: EEE GADS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List; Mikrotik discussions Subject: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems So we get an angry call from a customer demanding that we come out to fix their computer, because their Internet hasn't worked for a couple of months. Check the system logs, and yes - her link has been down for 13 days. Since we have an automated system that calls every two days when a customer is down for 48hours or longer, and then we have office staff call nearly every day after that period until we get an answer. At fourteen days, she had received no less than eight phone calls, none of which had been answered. We are very proactive about customer outages. Customer also had a long history of not responding to phone calls and had twice not been at home when our tech made the 50 mile round trip to her house. There was a bit of a history there. Now that we had her on the phone, we dropped everything and sent the nearest available tech to look at the problem. She has no idea how much of an effort that is right now because we have had THREE major hailstorms and multiple tornadoes come through our area in the last two weeks and all of our service staff and contractors are booked solid for two weeks to deal with radios damaged by the storms, ripped off of roofs, or re-aimed by the strong winds. It all boiled down to two simple things, one that is very common and one that we had never come across before. 1) Her POE was plugged in backwards. 2) After plugging in the POE, she was still getting a page could not be displayed page in Internet Explorer. Tech sat down and started doing some testing to see what was going on. Pings were fine, email seemed to work fine, technician's laptop got on and was able to do everything normal on her connection. Plugged it back into her computer and got the same error. Tech puts in our home page and it comes right up. Checks browser settings and find out that she had set her HOME PAGE to the dnserror.htm file (IE - the file that comes up when DNS isn't working) - which was putting up an error everytime she started her browser. #...@#$%@#...@#$%@#! Her next bill will have a $35 service call attached to it. I'd like to deliver it wrapped around a large rock through a window, but we will probably just put it in the mail. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] Google is out of control.
What be this Google visual abomination!!! YAR! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems
I used to work for a colo firm and we had a customer come in with sabers rattling and lawsuit threats flying that we had allowed his colocated server to be hacked He proved it by sending us the source code of the web-page served by his server... We were a bit puzzled until we viewed the rendered source on a web-browser... and we discovered that it was the this page cannot be found... web-page from IE! ryan On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: So we get an angry call from a customer demanding that we come out to fix their computer, because their Internet hasn't worked for a couple of months. Check the system logs, and yes - her link has been down for 13 days. Since we have an automated system that calls every two days when a customer is down for 48hours or longer, and then we have office staff call nearly every day after that period until we get an answer. At fourteen days, she had received no less than eight phone calls, none of which had been answered. We are very proactive about customer outages. Customer also had a long history of not responding to phone calls and had twice not been at home when our tech made the 50 mile round trip to her house. There was a bit of a history there. Now that we had her on the phone, we dropped everything and sent the nearest available tech to look at the problem. She has no idea how much of an effort that is right now because we have had THREE major hailstorms and multiple tornadoes come through our area in the last two weeks and all of our service staff and contractors are booked solid for two weeks to deal with radios damaged by the storms, ripped off of roofs, or re-aimed by the strong winds. It all boiled down to two simple things, one that is very common and one that we had never come across before. 1) Her POE was plugged in backwards. 2) After plugging in the POE, she was still getting a page could not be displayed page in Internet Explorer. Tech sat down and started doing some testing to see what was going on. Pings were fine, email seemed to work fine, technician's laptop got on and was able to do everything normal on her connection. Plugged it back into her computer and got the same error. Tech puts in our home page and it comes right up. Checks browser settings and find out that she had set her HOME PAGE to the dnserror.htm file (IE - the file that comes up when DNS isn't working) - which was putting up an error everytime she started her browser. #...@#$%@#...@#$%@#! Her next bill will have a $35 service call attached to it. I'd like to deliver it wrapped around a large rock through a window, but we will probably just put it in the mail. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google is out of control.
Boy, I can't wait until some hacker figures out how to goatse this. That will make for a pretty ugly search page. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 6/9/2010 11:24 PM, Robert West wrote: What be this Google visual abomination!!! YAR! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
