Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT

2010-07-14 Thread Robert West
Exactly.

It lived for a very brief while in my midst.  

I then got wise and ordered up dual ISDN.  Was flying at 128k !!!  I was a
god.



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Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT

Egads!

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
wrote:
 Anyone do the nightmare that was the Diamond Shotgun Modems?



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:33 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT

 Ya! Back in those dial-up days I felt so sorry for the cheap 
 businesses that forced their employees to share the internet 
 connection with dozens of users!

 On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:
 I sold a crap load of these:

 http://www2.dealtime.com/xPF-D-Link-DP-601M-DP-601M

 DLink DP-601M Share a full speed 56K connection with a whole office.  
 I
 actually had one company that had 15 users on a Novell network that I 
 hooked up with one of these.  Everyone shared the same 56K for their 
 email.  They had no complaints.

 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCS-WIN
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:44 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT

 We have come a long way though. Remember these?
 http://www.cablemodeminfo.com/umaxreview.html-ssi

 On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Robert West 
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Yeah, but once the price of the good stuff came down it doesn't make 
 any sense to invest much time into tricking out that junk.  I can 
 put less than a hundred bucks into a Routerboard or a Ubiquiti radio 
 that will do 10x what the hacked retail router can do.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:30 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT

 Bob - have you ever tried the solder trick on the old linkys - 
 amazing how much more ram you can get on those suckers



 On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Robert West wrote:

 Just the stripped down v24 that's been out forever.  All of the 
 Broadcom based WRT54G versions are stable as can be, as far I've 
 seen, but the newer versions, (like the past 5 years!!!) suck.
 DD-WRT is cool on Broadcom but all the Atheros chips seem to throw 
 it into crazy land.  Love those older WRT54G routers with the big 
 as hell flash.  Still
 going strong.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:15 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT

 Which package were you running? There's a number of different 
 variations which have more or less features. If one doesn't need 
 the full blown packages it's better to run a minimalist version, 
 and turn off what ever services you don't need. It's a lot of 
 setup. If you need the just basic functionality try the Tomato 
 firmware. It's basic and solid. The QOS is decent (works better for me
than the dd-wrt).
 The versions that have everything including the kitchen sink scare 
 me (the chances of problems and errors rise exponentially as the 
 code
 bloats).

 Greg

 On Jul 12, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Robert West wrote:

 My problem with the latest  DD-WRT is that the firmware seems to 
 overheat or lockup.  At least on the Linksys hardware.  Not as 
 good
 anymore.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 12:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT

 got me.  We simply use MT.  Guess sometimes its cheaper to use a 
 consumer grade hardware and put some other software on them, but 
 sounds like more work than it needs to be.

 ---
 Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc 
 -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
 Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE 
 On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Steve Barnes
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:16 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] DD-WRT

 Ok I have heard from lots of threads on this list that DD-WRT is 
 the only way to go  on a SOHO routers.  Why?

 What's the benefits?
 What's the down falls?

 Steve Barnes
 RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service



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Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script

2010-07-14 Thread Mike
Well yeah, I know that.  What I would like to do is  if this and this or
this then do that.  I can write Awk code or something to do that, but I have
never talked to a digital logger with its native language.  Have you?

Friendly Regards,
 
Mike
 -Original Message-
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Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:37 PM
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It's built in.  Just have it ping the device (or a device on the far side of

a link) and set the auto ping to cycle that outlet.
marlon

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Subject: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script


 Does anyone have a way to control a Digital Loggers Ethernet switch they
 would share?  I want to be able to say create a batch file or small
 executable to power cycle certain ports.

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Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script

2010-07-14 Thread Philip Dorr
If it is a HTTP interface then you might be able to use curl to talk
to the device.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:
 Well yeah, I know that.  What I would like to do is  if this and this or
 this then do that.  I can write Awk code or something to do that, but I have
 never talked to a digital logger with its native language.  Have you?

 Friendly Regards,

 Mike
  -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:37 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script

 It's built in.  Just have it ping the device (or a device on the far side of

 a link) and set the auto ping to cycle that outlet.
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:59 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script


 Does anyone have a way to control a Digital Loggers Ethernet switch they
 would share?  I want to be able to say create a batch file or small
 executable to power cycle certain ports.

 Thanks,  Mike





 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Missing Bridgewave

2010-07-14 Thread can...@believewireless.net
One installer was installing one side of the link and another the
other.  One side
was put up and stands.  The other was never put up.  So, it's lost.



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Re: [WISPA] Missing Bridgewave

2010-07-14 Thread Mike Hammett
  Sounds like manufacturers need to solve this problem technically vs. 
procedurally.Apparently that's how it is for this or that reason, 
but it sounds a little too high maintenance for me.

-
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On 7/9/2010 12:52 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
 One of our installers lost one end of a Bridgewave GE60.  According to our
 reseller we need to purchase a complete new link.

 What would you guys do in this case?  Press charges against the installer
 and file with insurance?  Just fire the employee?  Anyone else had someone
 this stupid do something similar?


 
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Re: [WISPA] Missing Bridgewave

2010-07-14 Thread lakeland
Welcome to the world of milimeter band. Its all due to critical construction 
standars and tolerances.

Proxim Gigalink is also done in matched pairs

-B-
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  Sounds like manufacturers need to solve this problem technically vs. 
procedurally.Apparently that's how it is for this or that reason, 
but it sounds a little too high maintenance for me.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 7/9/2010 12:52 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
 One of our installers lost one end of a Bridgewave GE60.  According to our
 reseller we need to purchase a complete new link.

 What would you guys do in this case?  Press charges against the installer
 and file with insurance?  Just fire the employee?  Anyone else had someone
 this stupid do something similar?


 
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Re: [WISPA] Missing Bridgewave

2010-07-14 Thread Mike Hammett
  Sounds like they need to develop better standards.  ;-)

So the millimeter band equipment is like a super model?

-
Mike Hammett
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On 7/14/2010 7:25 AM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
 Welcome to the world of milimeter band. Its all due to critical construction 
 standars and tolerances.

 Proxim Gigalink is also done in matched pairs

 -B-
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:45:06
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 Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Missing Bridgewave

Sounds like manufacturers need to solve this problem technically vs.
 procedurally.Apparently that's how it is for this or that reason,
 but it sounds a little too high maintenance for me.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 7/9/2010 12:52 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
 One of our installers lost one end of a Bridgewave GE60.  According to our
 reseller we need to purchase a complete new link.

 What would you guys do in this case?  Press charges against the installer
 and file with insurance?  Just fire the employee?  Anyone else had someone
 this stupid do something similar?


 
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] 2010 WISPA Board Elections

2010-07-14 Thread Rick Harnish
Good Morning Everyone,

 

I will need to agree whole heartedly with Matt here.  I would like to add
some history and evolution of WISPA to put things in perspective.

 

WISPA was started when John Scrivner, Matt Larsen, Marlon Shafer and others
became frustrated with the paid management of Part-15.org.  Over the
course of the next 7-8 months, the Founding Board worked late in to the
night many nights each week, to put together the WISPA bylaws and birth our
new trade association.  We obviously wrote the bylaws to avoid what we
perceived to be the evils that could possibly destroy our industry and trade
association.  It was important to us to avoid paid Board members and enforce
the volunteer grassroots effort we were putting together.  We all donated
financially as well as through our efforts to pay our attorney and
accountant to file our bylaws and Not-For-Profit Trade Association status.

 

Those early days were tough.  We were battling Part-15 for recognition and
members.  We banked nearly all our dues and created a community for our
industry that we felt would be attractive to new and old WISPs.  It was
important to us to create this community to create a sense of companionship
and ownership for each WISP, whether a member or not.  At that time, there
was a lack of understanding in Washington DC as to what a WISP was, what we
did and who we served.  It was important at that time to make trips to
Washington to educate the FCC and Congress about our industry.  I would like
to give credit to Marlon as he planned and managed many of those early
trips.

 

Over the next five years, Broadband has changed from a privilege to a
necessity.  The Government began to fall behind other nations in Broadband
adoption, infrastructure and pricing.  It seems that only in the last 2-3
years has Broadband all the sudden become a priority at the Government
level.  When that recognition was made, the flood gates opened at the FCC.
Studies were done, NPRMs and NOI's were issued at an alarmingly rapid pace.
In a way, WISPA's grassroots and tight purse strings attitude now would
allow us to go to work for our members and respond to all the FCC and
Congressional inquiries and rule makings.  It was also at this time that
Jack Unger took the helm of the FCC committee and Rini Coran was hired as
our Washington based legal representation.

 

These two gentlemen have done a fabulous job in my opinion keeping their
eyes open and ears in tune with the rapidly changing events.  The work
effort of the FCC Chairman probably increased 10x over what was needed
previously.  It became obvious to Jack and to the rest of the Board that
this position was outgrowing the volunteer effort we once perceived.  WISPA
was maturing and the Board needed to adapt or get out of the way.  While
WISPA is still a small trade association and our members and non-members
serve often sparsely populated areas, we knew we needed to conserve our
funds and decided that there were few people qualified for the FCC Committee
Chair role like Jack was.  He was semi-retired (had time), had been a WISP
(one of the very first), had written a book about the industry and had a
background in technical writing and FCC Doctrine.  His willingness to
volunteer 25 hours/month of Board time is commendable given the many hours
he now receives payment for as the FCC Chair.  WISPA has a treasure in Jack
Unger and it is this treasure that we need to take care of carefully.  I
will regret the time when Jack moves on.  His leadership has brought great
respect to WISPA nationally, amongst other lobbying trade associations,
corporate America and our Government institutions.  Jack is my hero!  Any
leadership position will invoke criticism.  Jack has a great temperament to
roll with the punches and stay the course for what he, the majority of the
FCC Committee and our legal counsel deem as important agendas to pursue.

 

In reality, these petty arguments about Board pay are a growing pain which
we need to get past.  As I said earlier, WISPA has matured and is continuing
to evolve.  We have seen the benefits of spending our dues wisely on paid
representation.  Our NOI and NPRM responses have been very professional the
last two years under Jack and Steve's guidance.  They are noticed and
commented on by other trade associations.  Other trade associations are
reaching out to WISPA to join forces and create joint filings.  It was not
this way a few years ago, when our few filings were pretty much ignored and
deemed irrelative.  

 

Most successful trade associations in the communications industry are much
bigger than WISPA.  Their dues are much higher and they pay full staffs and
legal teams to do this work.  They are often our competition and sometimes
our allies depending on the specific topic at hand.  WISPA will need to get
over our insistence of being a volunteer effort.  We need to continue to
mature if we want to succeed long term.  The old phrase, You get what you
pay for is now a 

Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup

2010-07-14 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 21:45, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:

 If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb external
 drive these days.


Concur. Right now, my backup solution is a 2TB external USB drive, which
cost about $200 and almost certainly is even less expensive now. Actually we
have two of them, and use Windows SyncToy to keep the second one up-to-date;
it goes home with me every few days, providing cheap offsite backups too.

(Since someone will probably ask: For desktops, DeltaCopy, a Windows version
of rsync; the servers are almost all virtualized, and backups are done by
vRanger Pro.)

David Smith
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup

2010-07-14 Thread Jason Hensley
Well, customer prefers to stay with something internal that resembles tape
at least.  Gonna try to talk them out of it cause like everyone else said,
tape sucks.  Ran REV drives for awhile and had great luck with them but even
those are outdated now. 

Thanks for all the feedback.  Love the BlacX option - didn't know that
existed!




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Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup

A remote server.  Even one with a dedicated wireless link from building a to

building b.

If there's not TO much data, something in another town is a decent 
option too.

If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb external 
drive these days.

marlon

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To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23 PM
Subject: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup


 What are you guys using for Tape backup options?  Prefer something SCSI 
 to
 replace existing tape drive that has failed.  I just personally hate tape.

 Thanks!






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Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup

2010-07-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Get the trays for hot swap SATA disks?

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On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.comwrote:

 Well, customer prefers to stay with something internal that resembles tape
 at least.  Gonna try to talk them out of it cause like everyone else said,
 tape sucks.  Ran REV drives for awhile and had great luck with them but
 even
 those are outdated now.

 Thanks for all the feedback.  Love the BlacX option - didn't know that
 existed!




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:45 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup

 A remote server.  Even one with a dedicated wireless link from building a
 to

 building b.

 If there's not TO much data, something in another town is a decent
 option too.

 If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb external
 drive these days.

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup


  What are you guys using for Tape backup options?  Prefer something SCSI
  to
  replace existing tape drive that has failed.  I just personally hate
 tape.
 
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] 2010 WISPA Board Elections

2010-07-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer

- Original Message - 
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To: memb...@wispa.org ; 'WISPA General List'
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] 2010 WISPA Board Elections


Good Morning Everyone,

I will need to agree whole heartedly with Matt here.  I would like to add 
some history and evolution of WISPA to put things in perspective.

WISPA was started when John Scrivner, Matt Larsen, Marlon Shafer and others 
became frustrated with the paid management of Part-15.org.  Over the 
course of the next 7-8 months, the Founding Board worked late in to the 
night many nights each week, to put together the WISPA bylaws and birth our 
new trade association.  We obviously wrote the bylaws to avoid what we 
perceived to be the evils that could possibly destroy our industry and trade 
association.  It was important to us to avoid paid Board members and enforce 
the volunteer grassroots effort we were putting together.  We all donated 
financially as well as through our efforts to pay our attorney and 
accountant to file our bylaws and Not-For-Profit Trade Association status.

mks:  Hiya Rick,
This is a GREAT write up.  I have just a few nits to pick.  First, we 
spent about 18 months on the by-laws as I recall.  It drug on forever it 
seamed.  The re-write is also taking a very long time (partly my 
fault as committee chairman).

Those early days were tough.  We were battling Part-15 for recognition and 
members.  We banked nearly all our dues and created a community for our 
industry that we felt would be attractive to new and old WISPs.  It was 
important to us to create this community to create a sense of companionship 
and ownership for each WISP, whether a member or not.  At that time, there 
was a lack of understanding in Washington DC as to what a WISP was, what we 
did and who we served.  It was important at that time to make trips to 
Washington to educate the FCC and Congress about our industry.  I would like 
to give credit to Marlon as he planned and managed many of those early 
trips.

mks:  It's a great thing that we worked hard to save that money.  It gave us 
the over $100,000 that we've spent on filings over the last year and a half 
or so.

mks:  And for any trivia buffs out there, the first WISP (in terms of who we 
are now) trip to DC was a What is a WISP trip in 2001.  If I recall 
correctly it was me, John S., Mike Anderson, Patrick Leary, and Allen 
Marsallis.

Over the next five years, Broadband has changed from a privilege to a 
necessity.  The Government began to fall behind other nations in Broadband 
adoption, infrastructure and pricing.  It seems that only in the last 2-3 
years has Broadband all the sudden become a priority at the Government 
level.  When that recognition was made, the flood gates opened at the FCC. 
Studies were done, NPRMs and NOI's were issued at an alarmingly rapid pace. 
In a way, WISPA's grassroots and tight purse strings attitude now would 
allow us to go to work for our members and respond to all the FCC and 
Congressional inquiries and rule makings.  It was also at this time that 
Jack Unger took the helm of the FCC committee and Rini Coran was hired as 
our Washington based legal representation.

These two gentlemen have done a fabulous job in my opinion keeping their 
eyes open and ears in tune with the rapidly changing events.  The work 
effort of the FCC Chairman probably increased 10x over what was needed 
previously.  It became obvious to Jack and to the rest of the Board that 
this position was outgrowing the volunteer effort we once perceived.  WISPA 
was maturing and the Board needed to adapt or get out of the way.  While 
WISPA is still a small trade association and our members and non-members 
serve often sparsely populated areas, we knew we needed to conserve our 
funds and decided that there were few people qualified for the FCC Committee 
Chair role like Jack was.  He was semi-retired (had time), had been a WISP 
(one of the very first), had written a book about the industry and had a 
background in technical writing and FCC Doctrine.  His willingness to 
volunteer 25 hours/month of Board time is commendable given the many hours 
he now receives payment for as the FCC Chair.  WISPA has a treasure in Jack 
Unger and it is this treasure that we need to take care of carefully.  I 
will regret the time when Jack moves on.  His leadership has brought great 
respect to WISPA nationally, amongst other lobbying trade associations, 
corporate America and our Government institutions.  Jack is my hero!  Any 
leadership position will invoke criticism.  Jack has a great temperament to 
roll with the punches and stay the course for what he, the majority of the 
FCC Committee and our legal counsel deem as important agendas to pursue.

mks:  Yes, the filings have been great.  I hope they bear fruit!

In reality, these petty arguments about Board pay are a growing pain which 
we need to get past.  As I said earlier, WISPA 

Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup

2010-07-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Just send the data, automatically, off site!  Even to another device in a 
different part of the building...

http://www.handybackup.net/?gclid=CO3NydOj66ICFSA5gwodxGrKeg

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup


 Well, customer prefers to stay with something internal that resembles tape
 at least.  Gonna try to talk them out of it cause like everyone else said,
 tape sucks.  Ran REV drives for awhile and had great luck with them but 
 even
 those are outdated now.

 Thanks for all the feedback.  Love the BlacX option - didn't know that
 existed!




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:45 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup

 A remote server.  Even one with a dedicated wireless link from building a 
 to

 building b.

 If there's not TO much data, something in another town is a decent
 option too.

 If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb external
 drive these days.

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup


 What are you guys using for Tape backup options?  Prefer something SCSI
 to
 replace existing tape drive that has failed.  I just personally hate 
 tape.

 Thanks!




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

2010-07-14 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Geeze, what about at 900mhz? won't the sun dry it back out? How do they
expect anyone to seal these connectors on the bottom of that antenna I shown
in the pics when the connector is barely sticking out far enough to screw
the N connector to it

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:15 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

bhahahahahahaha

n type connectors are NOT water proof!  They WILL get water into them.

What happens is the sun comes out and warms up the connector.  Then it rains

on it, quickly cooling the connector off.  That creates a vacuum inside the 
connector, sucking a bit of water inside.

I've literally seen mold growing inside connectors that weren't taped or 
taped right.

Try this.  Put your connection (use a toss away one) inside the dish washer.

Then toss it into the freezer.  Back to the dish washer, then set it in cold

water.  Then the oven, back to cold water.  Might use some salt water too, 
that'll speed up any corrosion.

If you get ANY water showing up in the connector you've got to do a better 
job of sealing it.

I just took down a competitor's tower site at a farmer who fired them. 
They didn't seal the connector at the top of the tower.  Water got into the 
coax and drifted 50' down the tower, into the box and rusted the amp that 
they were using at the bottom of the tower!

EVERYTHING outside needs to be sealed up at these frequencies.

Good luck!  grin
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy


 Marco,

 I took your advice on the Polyphaser and came up with a way to put it on
 without adding extra coax. Just screwed the Poly directly to the antenna. 
 So
 it's grounded through the antenna mount itself. I sealed the bottom
 connection but not the top, I know, I probly should have but I was looking
 at the top connection and I see absolutely no way water can get into the
 center pin. Even if it starts to fill up in the connector it will quickly
 drain out of there before it fills up high enough to go over the wall to 
 get
 into the center connector. I tightened the top connector down pretty good
 with a wrench also so we'll see...

 BTW the zip ties are temporary! Forgot to grab two hose clamps and I'll be
 up tomorrow for the 900mhz AP and antenna and I'll get it then.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marco Coelho
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:56 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

 I highly recommend them.  Even on DC grounded antennas.

 Especially when mounted to the top of a tower.

 Marco



 On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com 
 wrote:
 Is it necessary to add Poly Phaser lightning arrestors on connectorized
 Canopy units? Even if they are mounted to the tippy top of tower with an
 Omni?



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 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
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Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

2010-07-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I hear ya Kurt.

Not sure about the 900mhz part.

In my mind the problem isn't only the moisture, it's also the corrosion that 
comes with it.  900 handles water better than 2.4 or 5 gig does, very true. 
But a corroded connector isn't going to work as well as a clean one.  And 
it's not like the old VHF days when we had tens or hundreds of watts to play 
with and only voice, that no one expected to sound perfectly, to transport.

Me?  I just don't buy devices that I can't weather seal.  I tell 
manufactures that all of the time.  I don't care if you can give me a $5.00 
radio that will deliver 200mbps to home users at 50 miles on the other side 
of a mountain, if I can't make it reliable I just can't use it these days. 
Internet is no longer a toy used for sending the occasional email and 
downloading one's favorite songs.

I've tried silicone in a situation like that but there is something inside 
it that will actually speed up the corrosion inside the connector.  So far 
the best thing I've found is to take the offending device to a machine shop 
and modify it.  And/or use jumpers so you've got more room to work with.

Have fun!
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy


 Geeze, what about at 900mhz? won't the sun dry it back out? How do they
 expect anyone to seal these connectors on the bottom of that antenna I 
 shown
 in the pics when the connector is barely sticking out far enough to screw
 the N connector to it

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:15 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

 bhahahahahahaha

 n type connectors are NOT water proof!  They WILL get water into them.

 What happens is the sun comes out and warms up the connector.  Then it 
 rains

 on it, quickly cooling the connector off.  That creates a vacuum inside 
 the
 connector, sucking a bit of water inside.

 I've literally seen mold growing inside connectors that weren't taped or
 taped right.

 Try this.  Put your connection (use a toss away one) inside the dish 
 washer.

 Then toss it into the freezer.  Back to the dish washer, then set it in 
 cold

 water.  Then the oven, back to cold water.  Might use some salt water too,
 that'll speed up any corrosion.

 If you get ANY water showing up in the connector you've got to do a better
 job of sealing it.

 I just took down a competitor's tower site at a farmer who fired them.
 They didn't seal the connector at the top of the tower.  Water got into 
 the
 coax and drifted 50' down the tower, into the box and rusted the amp that
 they were using at the bottom of the tower!

 EVERYTHING outside needs to be sealed up at these frequencies.

 Good luck!  grin
 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy


 Marco,

 I took your advice on the Polyphaser and came up with a way to put it on
 without adding extra coax. Just screwed the Poly directly to the antenna.
 So
 it's grounded through the antenna mount itself. I sealed the bottom
 connection but not the top, I know, I probly should have but I was 
 looking
 at the top connection and I see absolutely no way water can get into the
 center pin. Even if it starts to fill up in the connector it will quickly
 drain out of there before it fills up high enough to go over the wall to
 get
 into the center connector. I tightened the top connector down pretty good
 with a wrench also so we'll see...

 BTW the zip ties are temporary! Forgot to grab two hose clamps and I'll 
 be
 up tomorrow for the 900mhz AP and antenna and I'll get it then.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marco Coelho
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:56 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

 I highly recommend them.  Even on DC grounded antennas.

 Especially when mounted to the top of a tower.

 Marco



 On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 wrote:
 Is it necessary to add Poly Phaser lightning arrestors on connectorized
 Canopy units? Even if they are mounted to the tippy top of tower with an
 Omni?



 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com










 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script

2010-07-14 Thread Ryan Spott
Or, use the perl script they seem to pimp in their FAQ:
http://www.digital-loggers.com/files/uu4.zip

Something along the lines of:

Usage: UserUtil Host[:port] login:password [n]{on|off|pulse|status}

Examples:
192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 5on
192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 status
192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 *off

Does that work?

ryan

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Philip Dorr
wirel...@judgementgaming.comwrote:

 If it is a HTTP interface then you might be able to use curl to talk
 to the device.

 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:
  Well yeah, I know that.  What I would like to do is  if this and this
 or
  this then do that.  I can write Awk code or something to do that, but I
 have
  never talked to a digital logger with its native language.  Have you?
 
  Friendly Regards,
 
  Mike
   -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
  Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:37 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script
 
  It's built in.  Just have it ping the device (or a device on the far side
 of
 
  a link) and set the auto ping to cycle that outlet.
  marlon
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:59 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script
 
 
  Does anyone have a way to control a Digital Loggers Ethernet switch they
  would share?  I want to be able to say create a batch file or small
  executable to power cycle certain ports.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

2010-07-14 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Hey never thought about the machine shop, that's a good idea.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

I hear ya Kurt.

Not sure about the 900mhz part.

In my mind the problem isn't only the moisture, it's also the corrosion that

comes with it.  900 handles water better than 2.4 or 5 gig does, very true. 
But a corroded connector isn't going to work as well as a clean one.  And 
it's not like the old VHF days when we had tens or hundreds of watts to play

with and only voice, that no one expected to sound perfectly, to transport.

Me?  I just don't buy devices that I can't weather seal.  I tell 
manufactures that all of the time.  I don't care if you can give me a $5.00 
radio that will deliver 200mbps to home users at 50 miles on the other side 
of a mountain, if I can't make it reliable I just can't use it these days. 
Internet is no longer a toy used for sending the occasional email and 
downloading one's favorite songs.

I've tried silicone in a situation like that but there is something inside 
it that will actually speed up the corrosion inside the connector.  So far 
the best thing I've found is to take the offending device to a machine shop 
and modify it.  And/or use jumpers so you've got more room to work with.

Have fun!
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy


 Geeze, what about at 900mhz? won't the sun dry it back out? How do they
 expect anyone to seal these connectors on the bottom of that antenna I 
 shown
 in the pics when the connector is barely sticking out far enough to screw
 the N connector to it

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:15 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

 bhahahahahahaha

 n type connectors are NOT water proof!  They WILL get water into them.

 What happens is the sun comes out and warms up the connector.  Then it 
 rains

 on it, quickly cooling the connector off.  That creates a vacuum inside 
 the
 connector, sucking a bit of water inside.

 I've literally seen mold growing inside connectors that weren't taped or
 taped right.

 Try this.  Put your connection (use a toss away one) inside the dish 
 washer.

 Then toss it into the freezer.  Back to the dish washer, then set it in 
 cold

 water.  Then the oven, back to cold water.  Might use some salt water too,
 that'll speed up any corrosion.

 If you get ANY water showing up in the connector you've got to do a better
 job of sealing it.

 I just took down a competitor's tower site at a farmer who fired them.
 They didn't seal the connector at the top of the tower.  Water got into 
 the
 coax and drifted 50' down the tower, into the box and rusted the amp that
 they were using at the bottom of the tower!

 EVERYTHING outside needs to be sealed up at these frequencies.

 Good luck!  grin
 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy


 Marco,

 I took your advice on the Polyphaser and came up with a way to put it on
 without adding extra coax. Just screwed the Poly directly to the antenna.
 So
 it's grounded through the antenna mount itself. I sealed the bottom
 connection but not the top, I know, I probly should have but I was 
 looking
 at the top connection and I see absolutely no way water can get into the
 center pin. Even if it starts to fill up in the connector it will quickly
 drain out of there before it fills up high enough to go over the wall to
 get
 into the center connector. I tightened the top connector down pretty good
 with a wrench also so we'll see...

 BTW the zip ties are temporary! Forgot to grab two hose clamps and I'll 
 be
 up tomorrow for the 900mhz AP and antenna and I'll get it then.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marco Coelho
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:56 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

 I highly recommend them.  Even on DC grounded antennas.

 Especially when mounted to the top of a tower.

 Marco



 On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 wrote:
 Is it necessary to add 

[WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Mark McElvy
Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I
have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port
on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet  on a 50ft mast
on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged
into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where
there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is
with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a
10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and
PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a crossover. Any
thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port?

 

Mark McElvy




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[WISPA] FW: Keya Paha Co

2010-07-14 Thread Mark McElvy
This person is interested in wireless if anyone can help

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: cheryl evenson [mailto:ckeven...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:07 AM
To: Mark McElvy
Subject: Keya Paha Co

Nebraska, 30 miles east off Highway 12.

Then south and east.

The middle of nowhere.

For some reason some newspaper articles had led us to believe that
internet via satelite was a real thing in the US for rural folks.

Thanks for your response.

Calle


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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Robert West
Is the unit still powering up from the POE ??

 

And you just can't talk to it?

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

 

Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I have a
customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port on 3 NS2's
so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet  on a 50ft mast on a hillside,
Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged into a NS2 in AP
mode transmitting down the hill to the house where there is another NS2 as a
client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is with the AP/NS2 up the hill
keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a 10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN
ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected
together with a crossover. Any thoughts on why just this one radio would
blow the ether port?

 

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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Mark McElvy
Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on Ethernet 

Mark McElvy


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

Is the unit still powering up from the POE ??

 

And you just can't talk to it?

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

 

Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I
have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port
on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet  on a 50ft mast
on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged
into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where
there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is
with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a
10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and
PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a crossover. Any
thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port?

 

Mark McElvy


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Re: [WISPA] Polyphaser's on Canopy

2010-07-14 Thread Marco Coelho
I really have to agree with Marlon.  We used mastic, but abandoned it
after finding a better method.  Our approach:

From the Bottom:

Liberal coating of Scotchkote Electrical Coating (no 14853) on all
surfaces and especially between the joints.

Layer of Scotch Rubber Splicing tape No 23.  Stretch this to 1/2
thickness as you apply.  Always rap from the bottom up (like you roof
a house).

Slightly light coat of  Scotchkote Electrical Coating (no 14853) on
all surfaces and especially between the joints.

Layer of Scotch Rubber Splicing tape No 23.  Stretch this to 1/2
thickness as you apply.  Always rap from the bottom up (like you roof
a house).

Layer of cheep electrical tape to protect if from UV rays.

I've never had to open one of these because of moisture (we have hundreds).

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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Josh Luthman
I had that a week or two ago.  Michael asked me to just go ahead and RMA - I
did.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote:

 Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on Ethernet

 Mark McElvy


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Robert West
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

 Is the unit still powering up from the POE ??



 And you just can't talk to it?







 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark McElvy
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue



 Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I
 have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port
 on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet  on a 50ft mast
 on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged
 into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where
 there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is
 with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a
 10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and
 PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a crossover. Any
 thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port?



 Mark McElvy


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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Greg Ihnen
Have you had any lightning?

Greg

On Jul 14, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Mark McElvy wrote:

 Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2’s. I have a 
 customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port on 3 NS2’s 
 so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet  on a 50ft mast on a hillside, 
 Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged into a NS2 in AP mode 
 transmitting down the hill to the house where there is another NS2 as a 
 client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps 
 blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a 10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports 
 of the two POE’s (NS2/AP and PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected 
 together with a crossover. Any thoughts on why just this one radio would blow 
 the ether port?
  
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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Jim Patient
 I have a box full of them that have the same issue.  Ben told me to 
use shielded cable for client installs.
Not that I haven't had a MT get hit a time or 2 but it seems every time 
I see a cloud in the sky I loose an ns2.
Hopefully they'll get this fixed but for now I'm sticking with the $130 
MT CPE over the ns2.


Jim


On 7/14/2010 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I had that a week or two ago.  Michael asked me to just go ahead and 
RMA - I did.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com 
mailto:mmce...@accubak.com wrote:


Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on
Ethernet

Mark McElvy


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

Is the unit still powering up from the POE ??



And you just can't talk to it?







From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue



Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I
have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet
port
on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet  on a
50ft mast
on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged
into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where
there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is
with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is
on a
10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and
PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a
crossover. Any
thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port?



Mark McElvy


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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Josh Luthman
I've had two NS2s go bad ever (been 9 months since I started using them).
One doesn't turn on at all and the other one is unable to do Ethernet
link/activity (powers on, wireless works).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote:

  I have a box full of them that have the same issue.  Ben told me to use
 shielded cable for client installs.
 Not that I haven't had a MT get hit a time or 2 but it seems every time I
 see a cloud in the sky I loose an ns2.
 Hopefully they'll get this fixed but for now I'm sticking with the $130 MT
 CPE over the ns2.

 Jim



 On 7/14/2010 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 I had that a week or two ago.  Michael asked me to just go ahead and RMA -
 I did.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote:

 Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on Ethernet

 Mark McElvy


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Robert West
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

 Is the unit still powering up from the POE ??



 And you just can't talk to it?







 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark McElvy
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue



  Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I
 have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port
 on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet  on a 50ft mast
 on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged
 into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where
 there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is
 with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a
 10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and
 PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a crossover. Any
 thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port?



 Mark McElvy


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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Philip Dorr
Those that we have had the Ethernet go dead, but the wireless still
works, we replace the Ethernet chip on and they work fine.  Since
using shielded CAT5E, we have not lost any radios that had shielded
cable and a Ubiquti PoE supply.  If we lose one and it has unshielded
wire, then we replace the wire with shielded wire and the radio with a
repaired radio (or a new radio if we do not currently have a repaired
radio).

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 I've had two NS2s go bad ever (been 9 months since I started using them).
 One doesn't turn on at all and the other one is unable to do Ethernet
 link/activity (powers on, wireless works).

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote:

 I have a box full of them that have the same issue.  Ben told me to use
 shielded cable for client installs.
 Not that I haven't had a MT get hit a time or 2 but it seems every time I
 see a cloud in the sky I loose an ns2.
 Hopefully they'll get this fixed but for now I'm sticking with the $130 MT
 CPE over the ns2.

 Jim


 On 7/14/2010 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 I had that a week or two ago.  Michael asked me to just go ahead and RMA -
 I did.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote:

 Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on Ethernet

 Mark McElvy


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Robert West
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

 Is the unit still powering up from the POE ??



 And you just can't talk to it?







 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark McElvy
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue



 Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I
 have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port
 on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet  on a 50ft mast
 on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged
 into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where
 there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is
 with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a
 10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and
 PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a crossover. Any
 thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port?



 Mark McElvy


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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Jim Patient
  Maybe it's my bad luck or I got a bad batch but I lost 4 last week:-(

On 7/14/2010 6:44 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
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 I've had two NS2s go bad ever (been 9 months since I started using them).
 One doesn't turn on at all and the other one is unable to do Ethernet
 link/activity (powers on, wireless works).

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jim Patientsa...@jeffcosoho.com  wrote:

   I have a box full of them that have the same issue.  Ben told me to use
 shielded cable for client installs.
 Not that I haven't had a MT get hit a time or 2 but it seems every time I
 see a cloud in the sky I loose an ns2.
 Hopefully they'll get this fixed but for now I'm sticking with the $130 MT
 CPE over the ns2.

 Jim



 On 7/14/2010 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 I had that a week or two ago.  Michael asked me to just go ahead and RMA -
 I did.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Mark McElvymmce...@accubak.com  wrote:

 Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on Ethernet

 Mark McElvy


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
   Behalf Of Robert West
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

 Is the unit still powering up from the POE ??



 And you just can't talk to it?







 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark McElvy
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue



   Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I
 have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port
 on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet  on a 50ft mast
 on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged
 into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where
 there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is
 with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a
 10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and
 PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a crossover. Any
 thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port?



 Mark McElvy


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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Nick Olsen
I've noticed that the NSM2's do better then the NS2's. We've blown a few 
NS2's, But never a NSM2, or any other radio in the M series now that I 
think about it, If I recall correctly. And were in florida :D

We had a tower take a hit, blew a power station or two and the tower 
switch, all ubnt M devices were fine.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(321) 205-1100 x106



From: Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:59 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

Maybe it's my bad luck or I got a bad batch but I lost 4 last week:-(

On 7/14/2010 6:44 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
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boundary=001636163cc9511a71048b6192be

 --001636163cc9511a71048b6192be
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 I've had two NS2s go bad ever (been 9 months since I started using 
them).
 One doesn't turn on at all and the other one is unable to do Ethernet
 link/activity (powers on, wireless works).

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jim Patientsa...@jeffcosoho.com  
wrote:

   I have a box full of them that have the same issue.  Ben told me to 
use
 shielded cable for client installs.
 Not that I haven't had a MT get hit a time or 2 but it seems every time 
I
 see a cloud in the sky I loose an ns2.
 Hopefully they'll get this fixed but for now I'm sticking with the $130 
MT
 CPE over the ns2.

 Jim



 On 7/14/2010 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 I had that a week or two ago.  Michael asked me to just go ahead and RMA 
-
 I did.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Mark McElvymmce...@accubak.com  
wrote:

 Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on 
Ethernet

 Mark McElvy


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On
   Behalf Of Robert West
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

 Is the unit still powering up from the POE ??



 And you just can't talk to it?







 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On
 Behalf Of Mark McElvy
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue



   Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I
 have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet 
port
 on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet  on a 50ft 
mast
 on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged
 into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where
 there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is
 with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on 
a
 10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and
 PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a crossover. 
Any
 thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port?



 Mark McElvy


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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Greg Ihnen
I'm in the Amazon and we have very intense lightning. We've never had a direct 
strike but we get very very close nearby strikes which induce high voltages 
into anything that can act like an antenna. We're running PS2's, NSM5's and a 
BulletM2. We lost some gear connected to the PS2's (though never a PS2 itself) 
before I isolated the PS2's from their mounts. The PS2's electronics have 
continuity to the mounting bracket. The gear was on a metal mount on a metal 
roof of a wooden house (roof not grounded) and the PS2 and it's associated 
ethernet cable were acting like a drain for the roof, zapping what was on the 
other end when ever lightning induced high voltage in the roof. Now I keep the 
PS2's isolated from their mount (with a piece of plastic tubing between the 
mount and PS2's bracket) and I have ethernet lightning protection at the POE 
end.

The NS5M's and the Bullet have been no problem.

Greg

On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Nick Olsen wrote:

 I've noticed that the NSM2's do better then the NS2's. We've blown a few 
 NS2's, But never a NSM2, or any other radio in the M series now that I think 
 about it, If I recall correctly. And were in florida :D
 
 We had a tower take a hit, blew a power station or two and the tower switch, 
 all ubnt M devices were fine.
 
 Nick Olsen
 Network Operations
 (321) 205-1100 x106
 
 
 
 
 From: Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:59 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue
 
 Maybe it's my bad luck or I got a bad batch but I lost 4 last week:-(
 
 On 7/14/2010 6:44 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  --===1574374465==
  Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636163cc9511a71048b6192be
 
  --001636163cc9511a71048b6192be
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
  I've had two NS2s go bad ever (been 9 months since I started using them).
  One doesn't turn on at all and the other one is unable to do Ethernet
  link/activity (powers on, wireless works).
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jim Patientsa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote:
 
  I have a box full of them that have the same issue. Ben told me to use
  shielded cable for client installs.
  Not that I haven't had a MT get hit a time or 2 but it seems every time I
  see a cloud in the sky I loose an ns2.
  Hopefully they'll get this fixed but for now I'm sticking with the $130 MT
  CPE over the ns2.
 
  Jim
 
 
 
  On 7/14/2010 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 
  I had that a week or two ago. Michael asked me to just go ahead and RMA -
  I did.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Mark McElvymmce...@accubak.com wrote:
 
  Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on Ethernet
 
  Mark McElvy
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Robert West
  Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM
  To: 'WISPA General List'
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue
 
  Is the unit still powering up from the POE ??
 
 
 
  And you just can't talk to it?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Mark McElvy
  Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue
 
 
 
  Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I
  have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port
  on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet on a 50ft mast
  on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged
  into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where
  there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is
  with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a
  10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and
  PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a crossover. Any
  thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port?
 
 
 
  Mark McElvy
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script

2010-07-14 Thread Mike
Ryan:

 

I will check into if that works for me.  Unfortunately, if I had a day to
spare I'd wash my Jeep, Roundup the lane, and get a massage.  I may have to
wait a bit of have a sleepless night soon.  Thanks!

 

Friendly Regards,

 

Mike

 

  _  

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Spott
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:40 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script

 

Or, use the perl script they seem to pimp in their FAQ:

http://www.digital-loggers.com/files/uu4.zip

 

Something along the lines of:

 

Usage: UserUtil Host[:port] login:password [n]{on|off|pulse|status}

 

Examples: 

192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 5on

192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 status

192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 *off

 

Does that work?

 

ryan

 

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com
wrote:

If it is a HTTP interface then you might be able to use curl to talk
to the device.


On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:
 Well yeah, I know that.  What I would like to do is  if this and this or
 this then do that.  I can write Awk code or something to do that, but I
have
 never talked to a digital logger with its native language.  Have you?

 Friendly Regards,

 Mike
  -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:37 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script

 It's built in.  Just have it ping the device (or a device on the far side
of

 a link) and set the auto ping to cycle that outlet.
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:59 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script


 Does anyone have a way to control a Digital Loggers Ethernet switch they
 would share?  I want to be able to say create a batch file or small
 executable to power cycle certain ports.

 Thanks,  Mike







 
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Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script

2010-07-14 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Gimme an ip/username and password and I'll make your life more exciting!  ;)

ryan



On Jul 14, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:

 Ryan:
 
  
 
 I will check into if that works for me.  Unfortunately, if I had a day to 
 spare I’d wash my Jeep, Roundup the lane, and get a massage.  I may have to 
 wait a bit of have a sleepless night soon.  Thanks!
 
  
 
 Friendly Regards,
 
  
 
 Mike
 
  
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Ryan Spott
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:40 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script
 
  
 
 Or, use the perl script they seem to pimp in their FAQ:
 
 http://www.digital-loggers.com/files/uu4.zip
 
  
 
 Something along the lines of:
 
  
 
 Usage: UserUtil Host[:port] login:password [n]{on|off|pulse|status}
 
  
 
 Examples: 
 
 192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 5on
 
 192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 status
 
 192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 *off
 
  
 
 Does that work?
 
  
 
 ryan
 
  
 
 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com 
 wrote:
 
 If it is a HTTP interface then you might be able to use curl to talk
 to the device.
 
 
 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:
  Well yeah, I know that.  What I would like to do is  if this and this or
  this then do that.  I can write Awk code or something to do that, but I have
  never talked to a digital logger with its native language.  Have you?
 
  Friendly Regards,
 
  Mike
   -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
  Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:37 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script
 
  It's built in.  Just have it ping the device (or a device on the far side of
 
  a link) and set the auto ping to cycle that outlet.
  marlon
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:59 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script
 
 
  Does anyone have a way to control a Digital Loggers Ethernet switch they
  would share?  I want to be able to say create a batch file or small
  executable to power cycle certain ports.
 
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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Robert West
Michael?  He makes you call him Michael???  

 

Sigh...

 

Bob-

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

 

I had that a week or two ago.  Michael asked me to just go ahead and RMA - I
did.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote:

Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on Ethernet

Mark McElvy



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

Is the unit still powering up from the POE ??



And you just can't talk to it?







From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue




Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I
have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port
on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet  on a 50ft mast
on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged
into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where
there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is
with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a
10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and
PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a crossover. Any
thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port?



Mark McElvy



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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Robert West
Had lots of that on the M series Bullets.  Time for the big ol' RMA!


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on Ethernet 

Mark McElvy


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

Is the unit still powering up from the POE ??

 

And you just can't talk to it?

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

 

Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I have a
customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port on 3 NS2's
so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet  on a 50ft mast on a hillside,
Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged into a NS2 in AP
mode transmitting down the hill to the house where there is another NS2 as a
client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is with the AP/NS2 up the hill
keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a 10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN
ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected
together with a crossover. Any thoughts on why just this one radio would
blow the ether port?

 

Mark McElvy


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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Robert West
I use the shielded, flooded cable religiously and have yet to lose a Bullet
or Rocket unless water got in.  

 

 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

 

I have a box full of them that have the same issue.  Ben told me to use
shielded cable for client installs. 
Not that I haven't had a MT get hit a time or 2 but it seems every time I
see a cloud in the sky I loose an ns2. 
Hopefully they'll get this fixed but for now I'm sticking with the $130 MT
CPE over the ns2.  

Jim


On 7/14/2010 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 

I had that a week or two ago.  Michael asked me to just go ahead and RMA - I
did.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote:

Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on Ethernet

Mark McElvy



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

Is the unit still powering up from the POE ??



And you just can't talk to it?







From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue




Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I
have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port
on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet  on a 50ft mast
on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged
into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where
there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is
with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a
10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and
PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a crossover. Any
thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port?



Mark McElvy



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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Robert West
Shielded wire rocks!  All you non-believers, go spend the extra bucks!  It 
really makes a difference.  If not...  Well, enjoy paying for it on 
the backend.

So there.

Bob-



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Philip Dorr
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

Those that we have had the Ethernet go dead, but the wireless still works, we 
replace the Ethernet chip on and they work fine.  Since using shielded CAT5E, 
we have not lost any radios that had shielded cable and a Ubiquti PoE supply.  
If we lose one and it has unshielded wire, then we replace the wire with 
shielded wire and the radio with a repaired radio (or a new radio if we do not 
currently have a repaired radio).

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:
 I've had two NS2s go bad ever (been 9 months since I started using them).
 One doesn't turn on at all and the other one is unable to do Ethernet 
 link/activity (powers on, wireless works).

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote:

 I have a box full of them that have the same issue.  Ben told me to 
 use shielded cable for client installs.
 Not that I haven't had a MT get hit a time or 2 but it seems every 
 time I see a cloud in the sky I loose an ns2.
 Hopefully they'll get this fixed but for now I'm sticking with the 
 $130 MT CPE over the ns2.

 Jim


 On 7/14/2010 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 I had that a week or two ago.  Michael asked me to just go ahead and 
 RMA - I did.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote:

 Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on 
 Ethernet

 Mark McElvy


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Robert West
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

 Is the unit still powering up from the POE ??



 And you just can't talk to it?







 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Mark McElvy
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue



 Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I 
 have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet 
 port on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet  on a 
 50ft mast on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power 
 and is plugged into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to 
 the house where there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the 
 hill. The issue is with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the 
 Ethernet port. It is on a 10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of 
 the two POE's (NS2/AP and PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected 
 together with a crossover. Any thoughts on why just this one radio would 
 blow the ether port?



 Mark McElvy


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Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

2010-07-14 Thread Robert West
Thanks for the heads up on that.  Very much appreciated.

 

Bob-

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:16 PM
To: n...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

 

I'm in the Amazon and we have very intense lightning. We've never had a
direct strike but we get very very close nearby strikes which induce high
voltages into anything that can act like an antenna. We're running PS2's,
NSM5's and a BulletM2. We lost some gear connected to the PS2's (though
never a PS2 itself) before I isolated the PS2's from their mounts. The PS2's
electronics have continuity to the mounting bracket. The gear was on a metal
mount on a metal roof of a wooden house (roof not grounded) and the PS2 and
it's associated ethernet cable were acting like a drain for the roof,
zapping what was on the other end when ever lightning induced high voltage
in the roof. Now I keep the PS2's isolated from their mount (with a piece of
plastic tubing between the mount and PS2's bracket) and I have ethernet
lightning protection at the POE end.

 

The NS5M's and the Bullet have been no problem.

 

Greg

 

On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Nick Olsen wrote:





I've noticed that the NSM2's do better then the NS2's. We've blown a few
NS2's, But never a NSM2, or any other radio in the M series now that I think
about it, If I recall correctly. And were in florida :D

We had a tower take a hit, blew a power station or two and the tower switch,
all ubnt M devices were fine.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(321) 205-1100 x106

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  _  

From: Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:59 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

Maybe it's my bad luck or I got a bad batch but I lost 4 last week:-(

On 7/14/2010 6:44 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
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 I've had two NS2s go bad ever (been 9 months since I started using them).
 One doesn't turn on at all and the other one is unable to do Ethernet
 link/activity (powers on, wireless works).

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jim Patientsa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote:

 I have a box full of them that have the same issue. Ben told me to use
 shielded cable for client installs.
 Not that I haven't had a MT get hit a time or 2 but it seems every time I
 see a cloud in the sky I loose an ns2.
 Hopefully they'll get this fixed but for now I'm sticking with the $130
MT
 CPE over the ns2.

 Jim



 On 7/14/2010 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 I had that a week or two ago. Michael asked me to just go ahead and RMA -
 I did.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Mark McElvymmce...@accubak.com wrote:

 Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on Ethernet

 Mark McElvy


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Robert West
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue

 Is the unit still powering up from the POE ??



 And you just can't talk to it?







 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark McElvy
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue



 Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I
 have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port
 on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet on a 50ft mast
 on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged
 into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where
 there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is
 with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a
 10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and
 PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a crossover. Any
 thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port?



 Mark McElvy


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[WISPA] Thinking about a new job?

2010-07-14 Thread Scottie Arnett
Well, it is finalized. My main competition, and backbone supplier, has
received round 2 BIP funding: 
http://www.lightwaveonline.com/fttx/news/Round-2-of-broadband-stimulus-kicks-of-with-more-fiber-funding-97678969.html
 Look for Twin Lakes telephone.  About 6 months ago, my 2nd biggest
competitor got it:
http://www.nctc.com/version_3.0/StimBlog/BBStimulus.html  Look at January
25, 2010.

Now for the RANT! In round 2 BIP, no other competitor could apply against
a provider that was already receiving USDA funding. WTF is this deal? The
USDA and FCC(with the rural exemption act)has provided Twin Lakes
Telephone a protected telephone coverage area for over 50 years! Now
they just handed them a monopoly on Internet service in my area?

I give up?! WTF else can I do? The Obama-n-screw-u administration has
screwed yet another business death coffin. Not only has it screwed us on
our wireless ISP, but it has screwed the cable company and many satellite
providers in the area. Do not think for a second that companies getting
funding for FTTH, will not also be offering TV! Being as remote as we are,
we have many, many satellite customers in the area.

I preached this same blog to the USDA before they funded our competitor.
Did not help a bit. I just pray for the rest of you guys that you do not
have to go against this. I am sure they would have eventually done it
anyway, but I would hope that it would have not been competition against
my own money that I had paid in on taxes.

Scottie Arnett
President  chief custodian
Info-Ed, Inc.




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Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup

2010-07-14 Thread RickG
Since we're on this subject, considering Mozy  several others are
making a profit on this. What solutions are there to provide a backup
service ourselves?

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer
o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
 Just send the data, automatically, off site!  Even to another device in a
 different part of the building...

 http://www.handybackup.net/?gclid=CO3NydOj66ICFSA5gwodxGrKeg

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup


 Well, customer prefers to stay with something internal that resembles tape
 at least.  Gonna try to talk them out of it cause like everyone else said,
 tape sucks.  Ran REV drives for awhile and had great luck with them but
 even
 those are outdated now.

 Thanks for all the feedback.  Love the BlacX option - didn't know that
 existed!




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:45 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup

 A remote server.  Even one with a dedicated wireless link from building a
 to

 building b.

 If there's not TO much data, something in another town is a decent
 option too.

 If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb external
 drive these days.

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup


 What are you guys using for Tape backup options?  Prefer something SCSI
 to
 replace existing tape drive that has failed.  I just personally hate
 tape.

 Thanks!




 
 
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