Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks
If we got rid of the spammers and attackers we'd have more then enough IP addresses and everyone would be able to get by on dial up! Seriously though I estimate that 5% of my upstream bandwidth is used by people to spam and attempt hack attacks on me. I use numerous apps to stop them such as denyhost, but it only stops them at my door, they still use up my bandwidth! Bret On 10/25/2010 12:47 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm brute force attacked every day all over hell. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 10/24/2010 9:20 PM, Robert West wrote: Is it just me or is everyone having their gateway servers attacked by those Chinese so-and so's? (WISPA REGS) My logs show attacks all weekend on all of my MT gateways. Sad Never had that before. Even the Routerboard I use at the house. RELENTLESS! Just sharing They get swatted off so it's all good but it's interesting to watch their attack Moving on. Steve- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks
I've been getting attacked as well but, it has decreased after I took some mearsures. I changed the ssh server not to accept root login: PermitRootLogin no Also installed fail2ban and on top of that created a script that would block ip addresses I find in the log: BAD=/etc/badIp IPS=$(cat $BAD) $iptables --delete-chain blockBadIp $iptables -N blockBadIp $iptables -F blockBadIp # $iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -s $iptables -A blockBadIp -j DROP for i in $IPS do $iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i $EXT_IFACE -s $i -j blockBadIp $iptables -A INPUT -p udp -i $EXT_IFACE -s $i -j blockBadIp done On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 00:26 -0400, Robert West wrote: Brute force attack. Various user names, various passwords. Dictionary attack. Seems to be happening all the time now. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 11:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks What do you consider a brute force attack? We tarpit traffic coming into our network on ssh, ftp, etc. then put an exception list for known server customers. I am always looking to identify and block extra stuff at our border Scott Piehn - Original Message - From: RickG To: WISPA General List Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks Not here. What ip range? On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Is it just me or is everyone having their gateway servers attacked by those Chinese so-and so’s? (WISPA REGS) My logs show attacks all weekend on all of my MT gateways. Sad Never had that before. Even the Routerboard I use at the house. RELENTLESS! Just sharing They get swatted off so it’s all good but it’s interesting to watch their attack Moving on. Steve- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ __ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks
Bret - If I poked @ your network right - you are using Cogento. They should be able to allow you to place something in their DC prior to it reaching your network. (cost may be $100/mo or so) A simple transparent gateway/firewall would do wonders. On Oct 25, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Bret Clark wrote: If we got rid of the spammers and attackers we'd have more then enough IP addresses and everyone would be able to get by on dial up! Seriously though I estimate that 5% of my upstream bandwidth is used by people to spam and attempt hack attacks on me. I use numerous apps to stop them such as denyhost, but it only stops them at my door, they still use up my bandwidth! Bret On 10/25/2010 12:47 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm brute force attacked every day all over hell. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 10/24/2010 9:20 PM, Robert West wrote: Is it just me or is everyone having their gateway servers attacked by those Chinese so-and so’s? (WISPA REGS) My logs show attacks all weekend on all of my MT gateways. Sad Never had that before. Even the Routerboard I use at the house. RELENTLESS! Just sharing They get swatted off so it’s all good but it’s interesting to watch their attack Moving on. Steve- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grid dish material
Depends what kind, I think they are either cast aluminum or galvanized steel. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Grid dish material What material are the old school 2.4 GHz grid dishes made of? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grid dish material
All of them I have must be steel; they rust. On 10/25/2010 10:49 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Depends what kind, I think they are either cast aluminum or galvanized steel. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Grid dish material What material are the old school 2.4 GHz grid dishes made of? -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grid dish material
Everyone I have seen is aluminium with some steel clamps and supports. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grid dish material Depends what kind, I think they are either cast aluminum or galvanized steel. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Grid dish material What material are the old school 2.4 GHz grid dishes made of? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WiFi Direct
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Re: [WISPA] Grid dish material
The ones I have dont rust. They're either aluminium or an alloy. I've got a bunch and dont use them any longer. Think the recycling yard will take them for a few bucks? On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.netwrote: All of them I have must be steel; they rust. On 10/25/2010 10:49 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Depends what kind, I think they are either cast aluminum or galvanized steel. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Grid dish material What material are the old school 2.4 GHz grid dishes made of? -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Cookie Security Alert
http://codebutler.com/firesheep When logging into a website you usually start by submitting your username and password. The server then checks to see if an account matching this information exists and if so, replies back to you with a cookie which is used by your browser for all subsequent requests. It's extremely common for websites to protect your password by encrypting the initial login, but surprisingly uncommon for websites to encrypt everything else. This leaves the cookie (and the user) vulnerable. HTTP session hijacking (sometimes called sidejacking) is when an attacker gets a hold of a user's cookie, allowing them to do anything the user can do on a particular website. On an open wireless network, cookies are basically shouted through the air, making these attacks extremely easy. This is a widely known problem that has been talked about to death, yet very popular websites continue to fail at protecting their users. The only effective fix for this problem is full end-to-end encryption, known on the web as HTTPS or SSL. Facebook is constantly rolling out new privacy features in an endless attempt to quell the screams of unhappy users, but what's the point when someone can just take over an account entirely? Twitter forced all third party developers to use OAuth then immediately released (and promoted) a new version of their insecure website. When it comes to user privacy, SSL is the elephant in the room. FireSheep basically just makes it possible to grab a users FaceBook account ... OUCH _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cookie Security Alert
Cookies have been a security issue for a long time now (you could do this by hand, but it takes a modicum of skill). With the plugin, every one gets a go. Hopefully this will kick websites into a more secure mind set. Sadly, no linux love with the plugin, oh well keep on with wireshark! =) On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: http://codebutler.com/firesheep When logging into a website you usually start by submitting your username and password. The server then checks to see if an account matching this information exists and if so, replies back to you with a cookie which is used by your browser for all subsequent requests. It's extremely common for websites to protect your password by encrypting the initial login, but surprisingly uncommon for websites to encrypt everything else. This leaves the cookie (and the user) vulnerable. HTTP session hijacking (sometimes called sidejacking) is when an attacker gets a hold of a user's cookie, allowing them to do anything the user can do on a particular website. On an open wireless network, cookies are basically shouted through the air, making these attacks extremely easy. This is a widely known problem that has been talked about to death, yet very popular websites continue to fail at protecting their users. The only effective fix for this problem is full end-to-end encryption, known on the web as HTTPS or SSL. Facebook is constantly rolling out new privacy features in an endless attempt to quell the screams of unhappy users, but what's the point when someone can just take over an account entirely? Twitter forced all third party developers to use OAuth then immediately released (and promoted) a new version of their insecure website. When it comes to user privacy, SSL is the elephant in the room. FireSheep basically just makes it possible to grab a users FaceBook account ... OUCH _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks
Cogent is one of our providers and that would be an idea, but we have several upstream providers that we peer with via BGP. The usages isn't an issue for as we have enough Internet bandwidth, but it is amazing the amount of illegal traffic that comes into our network in terms of hackers, spammers, phishing, etc. A problem for everyone I would suppose. Bret On 10/25/2010 10:45 AM, Glenn Kelley rote: Bret - If I poked @ your network right - you are using Cogento. They should be able to allow you to place something in their DC prior to it reaching your network. (cost may be $100/mo or so) A simple transparent gateway/firewall would do wonders. On Oct 25, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Bret Clark wrote: If we got rid of the spammers and attackers we'd have more then enough IP addresses and everyone would be able to get by on dial up! Seriously though I estimate that 5% of my upstream bandwidth is used by people to spam and attempt hack attacks on me. I use numerous apps to stop them such as denyhost, but it only stops them at my door, they still use up my bandwidth! Bret On 10/25/2010 12:47 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm brute force attacked every day all over hell. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/ On 10/24/2010 9:20 PM, Robert West wrote: Is it just me or is everyone having their gateway servers attacked by those Chinese so-and so’s? (WISPA REGS) My logs show attacks all weekend on all of my MT gateways. Sad Never had that before. Even the Routerboard I use at the house. RELENTLESS! Just sharing They get swatted off so it’s all good but it’s interesting to watch their attack Moving on. Steve- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ *Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com * Email: gl...@hostmedic.com mailto:gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grid dish material
A magnet has it narrowed down to aluminum or stainless steel. Being as though the material is malformed with my bare hands, it isn't stainless steel. Is there any use for these old grids other than scrap? In a MIMO world, I have no use for them. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 10/25/2010 9:49 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Depends what kind, I think they are either cast aluminum or galvanized steel. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Grid dish material What material are the old school 2.4 GHz grid dishes made of? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 34, Issue 34
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Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks
Do a traceroute on the IP, then write a complaint to the upstream providers (ab...@xyx.com). Works 80% of the time. Marco On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Brute force attack. Various user names, various passwords. Dictionary attack. Seems to be happening all the time now. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Piehn *Sent:* Sunday, October 24, 2010 11:06 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks What do you consider a brute force attack? We tarpit traffic coming into our network on ssh, ftp, etc. then put an exception list for known server customers. I am always looking to identify and block extra stuff at our border Scott Piehn - Original Message - *From:* RickG rgunder...@gmail.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Sunday, October 24, 2010 9:44 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks Not here. What ip range? On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Is it just me or is everyone having their gateway servers attacked by those Chinese so-and so’s? (WISPA REGS) My logs show attacks all weekend on all of my MT gateways. Sad Never had that before. Even the Routerboard I use at the house. RELENTLESS! Just sharing They get swatted off so it’s all good but it’s interesting to watch their attack Moving on. Steve- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Every email and website to be stored
I'm thinking of trying to corner the Hard Drive Market there... Marco On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: At 10/22/2010 02:46 PM, you wrote: That is an insane amount of storage. E-mail all your customers what their policy is going to do to the cost of their service. Bear in mind that the proposal in question applies to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not the United States of America, so unless you're British, you and your customers aren't impacted (except for their correspondence via British ISPs). That country also has an insane number of surveillance cameras. Marco On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: URL is broken the irony is thick. Lol. Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after the Coalition Government revived controversial Big Brother snooping plans. It will allow security services and the police to spy on the activities of every Briton who uses a phone or the internet. Moves to make every communications provider store details for at least a year will be unveiled later this year sparking fresh fears over a return of the surveillance state,,, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-an d-website-to-be-stored.html -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks
Is it just me or is everyone having their gateway servers attacked by those Chinese so-and so’s? (WISPA REGS) My logs show attacks all weekend on all of my MT gateways. Sad Never had that before. Even the Routerboard I use at the house. RELENTLESS! If you have a Mikrotik gateway router there are MANY ways to stop this. http://www.google.com/search?q=bruteforcesitesearch=http://wiki.mikrotik.comie=utf-8oe=utf-8 Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks
i hear ya there There are a few alternatives - depending on the relationship you have w/ your upstream but I hear ya - On Oct 25, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Bret Clark wrote: Cogent is one of our providers and that would be an idea, but we have several upstream providers that we peer with via BGP. The usages isn't an issue for as we have enough Internet bandwidth, but it is amazing the amount of illegal traffic that comes into our network in terms of hackers, spammers, phishing, etc. A problem for everyone I would suppose. Bret On 10/25/2010 10:45 AM, Glenn Kelley rote: Bret - If I poked @ your network right - you are using Cogento. They should be able to allow you to place something in their DC prior to it reaching your network. (cost may be $100/mo or so) A simple transparent gateway/firewall would do wonders. On Oct 25, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Bret Clark wrote: If we got rid of the spammers and attackers we'd have more then enough IP addresses and everyone would be able to get by on dial up! Seriously though I estimate that 5% of my upstream bandwidth is used by people to spam and attempt hack attacks on me. I use numerous apps to stop them such as denyhost, but it only stops them at my door, they still use up my bandwidth! Bret On 10/25/2010 12:47 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm brute force attacked every day all over hell. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 10/24/2010 9:20 PM, Robert West wrote: Is it just me or is everyone having their gateway servers attacked by those Chinese so-and so’s? (WISPA REGS) My logs show attacks all weekend on all of my MT gateways. Sad Never had that before. Even the Routerboard I use at the house. RELENTLESS! Just sharing They get swatted off so it’s all good but it’s interesting to watch their attack Moving on. Steve- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 34, Issue 34
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Re: [WISPA] Grid dish material
We've got some that I think are some sort of magnesium/alloy material. I haven't tried making one burn yet. Other than scrap, you can use them as extra rebar in small concrete projects. On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:58:55AM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: A magnet has it narrowed down to aluminum or stainless steel. Being as though the material is malformed with my bare hands, it isn't stainless steel. Is there any use for these old grids other than scrap? In a MIMO world, I have no use for them. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 10/25/2010 9:49 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Depends what kind, I think they are either cast aluminum or galvanized steel. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Grid dish material What material are the old school 2.4 GHz grid dishes made of? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Can't get my 100MB
I just took delivery on a 100MB Fiber connection from Charter, we're perplexed at the variable speed tests we are getting. Charter's varies from 25 to 50MB down, speedtest.net goes to about 20-25MB down and 30 up, speakeasy doesn't go above 20MB. Charter says the cap is off on our 100MB so it should be showing that. The anatomy of our network is fiber to our head-end, goes to a Charter switch then to our Cisco 2811, then to a gig netgear switch. We're doing our speed tests on a standard browser (Firefox) in a Windows 2003 box that has a 10/100 ethernet (about 8 feet) to the gig switch. I'm debating if the 2811 is hefty enough to handle the 100MB, any ideas? Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB
Are you hard coding 100 full. Sent from my iPhone4 On Oct 25, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: I just took delivery on a 100MB Fiber connection from Charter, we're perplexed at the variable speed tests we are getting. Charter's varies from 25 to 50MB down, speedtest.net goes to about 20-25MB down and 30 up, speakeasy doesn't go above 20MB. Charter says the cap is off on our 100MB so it should be showing that. The anatomy of our network is fiber to our head-end, goes to a Charter switch then to our Cisco 2811, then to a gig netgear switch. We're doing our speed tests on a standard browser (Firefox) in a Windows 2003 box that has a 10/100 ethernet (about 8 feet) to the gig switch. I'm debating if the 2811 is hefty enough to handle the 100MB, any ideas? Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB
2811 will choke most likely http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/downloads/765/tools/quickreference/routerperformance.pdf -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB Are you hard coding 100 full. Sent from my iPhone4 On Oct 25, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: I just took delivery on a 100MB Fiber connection from Charter, we're perplexed at the variable speed tests we are getting. Charter's varies from 25 to 50MB down, speedtest.net goes to about 20-25MB down and 30 up, speakeasy doesn't go above 20MB. Charter says the cap is off on our 100MB so it should be showing that. The anatomy of our network is fiber to our head-end, goes to a Charter switch then to our Cisco 2811, then to a gig netgear switch. We're doing our speed tests on a standard browser (Firefox) in a Windows 2003 box that has a 10/100 ethernet (about 8 feet) to the gig switch. I'm debating if the 2811 is hefty enough to handle the 100MB, any ideas? Thanks, Forbes - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 15:37, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote: The anatomy of our network is fiber to our head-end, goes to a Charter switch then to our Cisco 2811, then to a gig netgear switch. We're doing our speed tests on a standard browser (Firefox) in a Windows 2003 box that has a 10/100 ethernet (about 8 feet) to the gig switch. I'm debating if the 2811 is hefty enough to handle the 100MB, any ideas? What happens if you get rid of all the extra stuff and just plug your PC directly into their switch (assuming you have an Ethernet handoff and not fiber)? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB
Forbes, Besides the usual things to look for, please keep in mind that most of the SpeedTest Servers out their are 'capped' and not really designed to test for 100meg x 100meg connections. The best way to test it is to use 'Bandwidth Tester' tool (Mikrotik's have one built in), and there are others you can find / download on the net. (Jperf ?) Keep in mind, you need beefy systems to be able to generate, sustained amount of 100meg bandwidth, for testing. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/25/2010 4:37 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: I just took delivery on a 100MB Fiber connection from Charter, we're perplexed at the variable speed tests we are getting. Charter's varies from 25 to 50MB down, speedtest.net goes to about 20-25MB down and 30 up, speakeasy doesn't go above 20MB. Charter says the cap is off on our 100MB so it should be showing that. The anatomy of our network is fiber to our head-end, goes to a Charter switch then to our Cisco 2811, then to a gig netgear switch. We're doing our speed tests on a standard browser (Firefox) in a Windows 2003 box that has a 10/100 ethernet (about 8 feet) to the gig switch. I'm debating if the 2811 is hefty enough to handle the 100MB, any ideas? Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB
Lots of possibilities First, you need to find a method of testing other than public web test sites like speedtest.net and speakeasy.net. You will not be able to narrow it down conclusively, without having control of variables on both sides of a test path. Second, we found www.visualware.com (myspeed.visualware.com) to be a helpful site to gather more data, to identify link problems. Their IT staff was able to provide us custom reports on various links stats taht were not normal for a link. (such as grapghs of pause and loss and retransmits and such). Third, Make sure Flow Control is set correctly on ALL ETHERNET SWITCH devices inline. Switch to PC is supposed to be FC ON, and Switch to Switch or Radio to Switch FC is supposed to be OFF. Sometimes this can be set wrong on the upstream providers switch also. If set wrong, not uncommon to get 50% degregation of speed or more. Fourth, Make Sure Duplex is set correctly. MANY CISCO routers do NOT auto detect correctly with other Switches. OFTEN we recommend hard setting 100mb FDX (auto neg off) on both the Cisco and the device coonnected to the Cisco. If this is set wrong, expect to get atleast 50% degregation of speed, and likely worse speed in one direction. Fifth, REMEMBER TCP AUTOMATICALLY slows itself down, if it false detects congestion, pause, or packet loss. REMEMBER the forumla for window size times latency that equal max transfer rate possible. That means... a 100mb link with 5ms accross town might do 95mbps, but 100mb link across USA at 70ms might do 5-10mbps. When running TCP at standard Ethernet 1500 byte packets, you will be harmed by ETHERNET distance (latency) TCP slow down. Also, Window size issupposed to auto adjust with Windows in most cases, but it always doesn't. So when runing a test, its important to recogbnize whether the correct window size gets adjusted during the test. (Inold dats 64kb window was the largest, but now PCs can multiple that by another number, so window size can be much higher. 64kb x X=widnows size. I can remember the max but its in the 700kb range I think. Anyway two things come out of that... A) USe a low latency path for your test, to test your circuit, otehrwise you are testing the Internet transit path. B) Use a UDP testing tool, to verify whether the capacity is truly there or not, so TCP slowdown (nagel augorythm?) is bypassed. IF UDP can do full capacity, then you know its not a capacity issue, but instead of link quality issue. C) USe a TCP multiple PArallel stream tests. For example, if you get qty 10 of 10mbps streams it means you have 100mbps of cpaacity, even if teh top speed you can achieve individually is 10mbps. Again, if the combined speed of multiple tests is a greater value than the speed of a single stream test, again, you likely have a link quality issue. Sixth, IPERF JPERF is your friend. It will help you get the data that you need. Its supports TCP/UDP/PARALLEL streams/MULTIPLE WINDOW SIZE. Try and talk your upstream into deploying a Iperf Server. Many carruiers are starting to standardize on it, for testing ONNet Ethernet circuits. Seventh- Do NOT trust Mikrotik routing to be able to deliver full 100mbps speeds. Dependong on your routing configuration, you can get huge limits. In some cases we've seen the Mikrotik result in speeds as low as 10-15mbps max transfer when on a 100mbps link, but then a change in routing config allowed us to get almost 80mbps. Eighth- Dont tryust your laptops to test full speed just because it has a Gigbit port. Laptop chipsets can cause delays. Sometimes its a good idea to test a secnd laptop to see if you get the same results. When its a problem it usually has something to do with NIC buffers and such, where it may be effected only in one direction. For example, not enough receive or transmit buffers. Or poor NIC drivers unable to do DMA transfers and stuff like that. NINETH, AFter you test yout test tools then you can test your links. Remember... PAcket loss and delay is accumlative over the whole path. And in aggregate it may have a worse result. For example, Lets say we have two Links A and B. If link A has packetloss of 1% and linkB has packetloss of 1%, in combination togeather, the loss might not be 2%. It might be much worse like 5% in combination. The same thing applies to speed. If link A tests 50mbps, and linkB tests 50mbps, does NOT MEAN that a PATH COMPRISING Link A and B in combination will yield 50mbps. The reason is that the loss can be accumulative accross the agregated path, and exceed some threshold, that tells TCP's nagel algorythm to slow down. The TCP automatic congestion control and slow down will be the primary cause of link slow down. Remember TCP was designed to think that packet loss and delay is caused by congestion, so if you slow transfers down, the packetloss and delay will go away, so it is programed to keep slowing down until it is gone. With
[WISPA] chipset vs standard based beam forming?
I see lots of discussion about the new 802.11n standard supporting beam forming, and I'm trying to wade through the chipset ones (e.g. Ruckus, Extricom, Meru, etc) and other solutions that claim to be more standards based. From what I gather from the marketing literature, the various vendor solutions direct the signal more efficiently towards specific targets (focusing beam in certain direction, monitoring interference, interference nulling, etc), but that seems to have limited effectiveness when it comes to receiving transmitted packets from the client end (resulting in slow uplink?). In some of these cases, the receive antennas are just an omni antenna. (802.11 is not a timing based protocol, so I don't see how beamforming benefits on the receive side will ever happen) So is the best that we can hope for with beam forming is faster download but the same old upload? How will the standard (once baked in more vendor gear) do things differently? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB
turn auto neg off. It causes me many problems. richard On 25 October 2010 22:49, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Lots of possibilities First, you need to find a method of testing other than public web test sites like speedtest.net and speakeasy.net. You will not be able to narrow it down conclusively, without having control of variables on both sides of a test path. Second, we found www.visualware.com (myspeed.visualware.com) to be a helpful site to gather more data, to identify link problems. Their IT staff was able to provide us custom reports on various links stats taht were not normal for a link. (such as grapghs of pause and loss and retransmits and such). Third, Make sure Flow Control is set correctly on ALL ETHERNET SWITCH devices inline. Switch to PC is supposed to be FC ON, and Switch to Switch or Radio to Switch FC is supposed to be OFF. Sometimes this can be set wrong on the upstream providers switch also. If set wrong, not uncommon to get 50% degregation of speed or more. Fourth, Make Sure Duplex is set correctly. MANY CISCO routers do NOT auto detect correctly with other Switches. OFTEN we recommend hard setting 100mb FDX (auto neg off) on both the Cisco and the device coonnected to the Cisco. If this is set wrong, expect to get atleast 50% degregation of speed, and likely worse speed in one direction. Fifth, REMEMBER TCP AUTOMATICALLY slows itself down, if it false detects congestion, pause, or packet loss. REMEMBER the forumla for window size times latency that equal max transfer rate possible. That means... a 100mb link with 5ms accross town might do 95mbps, but 100mb link across USA at 70ms might do 5-10mbps. When running TCP at standard Ethernet 1500 byte packets, you will be harmed by ETHERNET distance (latency) TCP slow down. Also, Window size issupposed to auto adjust with Windows in most cases, but it always doesn't. So when runing a test, its important to recogbnize whether the correct window size gets adjusted during the test. (Inold dats 64kb window was the largest, but now PCs can multiple that by another number, so window size can be much higher. 64kb x X=widnows size. I can remember the max but its in the 700kb range I think. Anyway two things come out of that... A) USe a low latency path for your test, to test your circuit, otehrwise you are testing the Internet transit path. B) Use a UDP testing tool, to verify whether the capacity is truly there or not, so TCP slowdown (nagel augorythm?) is bypassed. IF UDP can do full capacity, then you know its not a capacity issue, but instead of link quality issue. C) USe a TCP multiple PArallel stream tests. For example, if you get qty 10 of 10mbps streams it means you have 100mbps of cpaacity, even if teh top speed you can achieve individually is 10mbps. Again, if the combined speed of multiple tests is a greater value than the speed of a single stream test, again, you likely have a link quality issue. Sixth, IPERF JPERF is your friend. It will help you get the data that you need. Its supports TCP/UDP/PARALLEL streams/MULTIPLE WINDOW SIZE. Try and talk your upstream into deploying a Iperf Server. Many carruiers are starting to standardize on it, for testing ONNet Ethernet circuits. Seventh- Do NOT trust Mikrotik routing to be able to deliver full 100mbps speeds. Dependong on your routing configuration, you can get huge limits. In some cases we've seen the Mikrotik result in speeds as low as 10-15mbps max transfer when on a 100mbps link, but then a change in routing config allowed us to get almost 80mbps. Eighth- Dont tryust your laptops to test full speed just because it has a Gigbit port. Laptop chipsets can cause delays. Sometimes its a good idea to test a secnd laptop to see if you get the same results. When its a problem it usually has something to do with NIC buffers and such, where it may be effected only in one direction. For example, not enough receive or transmit buffers. Or poor NIC drivers unable to do DMA transfers and stuff like that. NINETH, AFter you test yout test tools then you can test your links. Remember... PAcket loss and delay is accumlative over the whole path. And in aggregate it may have a worse result. For example, Lets say we have two Links A and B. If link A has packetloss of 1% and linkB has packetloss of 1%, in combination togeather, the loss might not be 2%. It might be much worse like 5% in combination. The same thing applies to speed. If link A tests 50mbps, and linkB tests 50mbps, does NOT MEAN that a PATH COMPRISING Link A and B in combination will yield 50mbps. The reason is that the loss can be accumulative accross the agregated path, and exceed some threshold, that tells TCP's nagel algorythm to slow down. The TCP automatic congestion control and slow down will be the primary cause of link slow down. Remember TCP was designed to think that packet loss and delay is
Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB
Use IPERF IPERF will let you do this - w/o much of a system in fact. :-) you do need something else on the other end however On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Forbes, Besides the usual things to look for, please keep in mind that most of the SpeedTest Servers out their are 'capped' and not really designed to test for 100meg x 100meg connections. The best way to test it is to use 'Bandwidth Tester' tool (Mikrotik's have one built in), and there are others you can find / download on the net. (Jperf ?) Keep in mind, you need beefy systems to be able to generate, sustained amount of 100meg bandwidth, for testing. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/25/2010 4:37 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: I just took delivery on a 100MB Fiber connection from Charter, we're perplexed at the variable speed tests we are getting. Charter's varies from 25 to 50MB down, speedtest.net goes to about 20-25MB down and 30 up, speakeasy doesn't go above 20MB. Charter says the cap is off on our 100MB so it should be showing that. The anatomy of our network is fiber to our head-end, goes to a Charter switch then to our Cisco 2811, then to a gig netgear switch. We're doing our speed tests on a standard browser (Firefox) in a Windows 2003 box that has a 10/100 ethernet (about 8 feet) to the gig switch. I'm debating if the 2811 is hefty enough to handle the 100MB, any ideas? Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB
On 25 October 2010 17:55, richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.com wrote: turn auto neg off. It causes me many problems. I used to swear by this as well, but as of late you are better letting it auto negotiate. http://etherealmind.com/ethernet-autonegotiation-works-why-how-standard-should-be-set/ As for the speed tests, I would never expect a browser based test to reliably give 100mb results every time. You should be running iperf, with multiple partners (wow, that sounds dirty). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB
ISR 2811 Process switching 3,000 1.536 Fast/CEF switching 120,000 61.44 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.netwrote: 2811 will choke most likely http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/downloads/765/tools/quickreference/routerperformance.pdf -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB Are you hard coding 100 full. Sent from my iPhone4 On Oct 25, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: I just took delivery on a 100MB Fiber connection from Charter, we're perplexed at the variable speed tests we are getting. Charter's varies from 25 to 50MB down, speedtest.net goes to about 20-25MB down and 30 up, speakeasy doesn't go above 20MB. Charter says the cap is off on our 100MB so it should be showing that. The anatomy of our network is fiber to our head-end, goes to a Charter switch then to our Cisco 2811, then to a gig netgear switch. We're doing our speed tests on a standard browser (Firefox) in a Windows 2003 box that has a 10/100 ethernet (about 8 feet) to the gig switch. I'm debating if the 2811 is hefty enough to handle the 100MB, any ideas? Thanks, Forbes - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] chipset vs standard based beam forming?
Rogelio, Please don't take this the wrong way. You are trying to understand a very complex 'patented' technology via a very simplistic understanding. Beam forming is a very complex (lots of analytical analysis done on a real time basis) technology, there are a number of Masters PHD Thesis papers on this topic that you can find by Googling. There is no 'chipset' for it Each of the folks you mention utilize 'internally developed' patented techniques of applying the 'Beam Forming concept. so there is no 'standard' the chipset are simple transmitters and signal processors (math units..) The beam forming technology works in both direction (sending receiving). There is no such thing as a 'omni' beam forming antenna. The antenna pattern is dynamically changed to focus / lock on to the signal of the CPE that the AP is talking to. Plus, there is NO 'Beam Forming Standard...and don't expect one in the future. since it is more of a 'type of antenna design' and not a 'defined formula'. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/25/2010 5:54 PM, Rogelio wrote: I see lots of discussion about the new 802.11n standard supporting beam forming, and I'm trying to wade through the chipset ones (e.g. Ruckus, Extricom, Meru, etc) and other solutions that claim to be more standards based. From what I gather from the marketing literature, the various vendor solutions direct the signal more efficiently towards specific targets (focusing beam in certain direction, monitoring interference, interference nulling, etc), but that seems to have limited effectiveness when it comes to receiving transmitted packets from the client end (resulting in slow uplink?). In some of these cases, the receive antennas are just an omni antenna. (802.11 is not a timing based protocol, so I don't see how beamforming benefits on the receive side will ever happen) So is the best that we can hope for with beam forming is faster download but the same old upload? How will the standard (once baked in more vendor gear) do things differently? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB
I've found the best way to achieve a links true full potential is to use Bittorrent. Share some *nix ISOs with the world. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Use IPERF IPERF will let you do this - w/o much of a system in fact. :-) you do need something else on the other end however On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Forbes, Besides the usual things to look for, please keep in mind that most of the SpeedTest Servers out their are 'capped' and not really designed to test for 100meg x 100meg connections. The best way to test it is to use 'Bandwidth Tester' tool (Mikrotik's have one built in), and there are others you can find / download on the net. (Jperf ?) Keep in mind, you need beefy systems to be able to generate, sustained amount of 100meg bandwidth, for testing. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/25/2010 4:37 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: I just took delivery on a 100MB Fiber connection from Charter, we're perplexed at the variable speed tests we are getting. Charter's varies from 25 to 50MB down, speedtest.net goes to about 20-25MB down and 30 up, speakeasy doesn't go above 20MB. Charter says the cap is off on our 100MB so it should be showing that. The anatomy of our network is fiber to our head-end, goes to a Charter switch then to our Cisco 2811, then to a gig netgear switch. We're doing our speed tests on a standard browser (Firefox) in a Windows 2003 box that has a 10/100 ethernet (about 8 feet) to the gig switch. I'm debating if the 2811 is hefty enough to handle the 100MB, any ideas? Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ *Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com * Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB
As an aside, the packet pushers podcast is really quite good. I especially enjoy Ivan P. And I concur that nowadays turning off autoneg results in more half-dup connections than it does solve problem. Fwiw, I still lock redline-cisco links. On Oct 25, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.commailto:jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 October 2010 17:55, richard sterne mailto:wireless.r...@gmail.comwireless.r...@gmail.commailto:wireless.r...@gmail.com wrote: turn auto neg off. It causes me many problems. I used to swear by this as well, but as of late you are better letting it auto negotiate. http://etherealmind.com/ethernet-autonegotiation-works-why-how-standard-should-be-set/http://etherealmind.com/ethernet-autonegotiation-works-why-how-standard-should-be-set/ As for the speed tests, I would never expect a browser based test to reliably give 100mb results every time. You should be running iperf, with multiple partners (wow, that sounds dirty). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WasabiNet in St. Louis appeared on local TV news
KSDK, a local TV station, recorded this interview with Minerva and myself in May. After editing the clip for 5months (?), they finally aired it earlier this month. The WasabiNet KSDK video from 10/14 is now on Youtube! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pDpUpRT6ZM I will be gradually posting this link everywhere I can, but feel free to share it yourselves! More about WasabiNet: http://gowasabi.net -- Ben West westbyw...@gmail.com b...@gowasabi.net -- Ben West westbyw...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] chipset vs standard based beam forming?
interference nulling, etc), but that seems to have limited effectiveness when it comes to receiving transmitted packets from the client end (resulting in slow uplink?). Multi-antenna systems like the ones doing beamforming can provide MRC (Maximal-Ratio Combining), which does improve the receive SNR. It's not beamforming per se but having an antenna array with proper wavelength fractions separation improves MRC performance. In some of these cases, the receive antennas are just an omni antenna. (802.11 is not a timing based protocol, so I don't see how beamforming benefits on the receive side will ever happen) 802.11 systems with TDMA-like protocols (AirMax, Nstreme v2) may change that. So is the best that we can hope for with beam forming is faster download but the same old upload? How will the standard (once baked in more vendor gear) do things differently? My personal experience with 802.16e 4- and 8-antenna systems is the opposite of that, with upload coverage and quality (not speed) being improved the most. Download speeds are better but cell capacity is usually not an issue on the first years of a continuos coverage system; cell radius impacts directly on upfront CAPEX. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WISP surplussing Moto units
I'm going to list some Motorola radios for sale on eBay but I'll give first shot to my fellow WISP's, they are all used early edition and recently taken out of service: 4 5700 SM 4 5700 BH-10 2 5700 BH-20 1 5700 AP 1 5400 AP 1 5200 AP 1 5200 SM 14 reflectors Let me know if you want any before I put them on eBay. Thanks, Forbes forbes.me...@wabroadband.com (509) 853-0858 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP surplussing Moto units
What kind of reflectors? On Oct 25, 2010 9:38 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: I'm going to list some Motorola radios for sale on eBay but I'll give first shot to my fellow WISP's, they are all used early edition and recently taken out of service: 4 5700 SM 4 5700 BH-10 2 5700 BH-20 1 5700 AP 1 5400 AP 1 5200 AP 1 5200 SM 14 reflectors Let me know if you want any before I put them on eBay. Thanks, Forbes forbes.me...@wabroadband.com (509) 853-0858 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB
I can break my fiber connection by turning on auto neg every time. Thats on a Dell managed switch. On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 October 2010 17:55, richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.com wrote: turn auto neg off. It causes me many problems. I used to swear by this as well, but as of late you are better letting it auto negotiate. http://etherealmind.com/ethernet-autonegotiation-works-why-how-standard-should-be-set/ As for the speed tests, I would never expect a browser based test to reliably give 100mb results every time. You should be running iperf, with multiple partners (wow, that sounds dirty). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] chipset vs standard based beam forming?
This reminds me of another question I have: Why dont I get synchronous speeds? On a rare occasion, I do, but not normally. LOL, once in a while, I get better uploads than downloads and cant explain that either! On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Rogelio, Please don't take this the wrong way. You are trying to understand a very complex 'patented' technology via a very simplistic understanding. Beam forming is a very complex (lots of analytical analysis done on a real time basis) technology, there are a number of Masters PHD Thesis papers on this topic that you can find by Googling. There is no 'chipset' for it Each of the folks you mention utilize 'internally developed' patented techniques of applying the 'Beam Forming concept. so there is no 'standard' the chipset are simple transmitters and signal processors (math units..) The beam forming technology works in both direction (sending receiving). There is no such thing as a 'omni' beam forming antenna. The antenna pattern is dynamically changed to focus / lock on to the signal of the CPE that the AP is talking to. Plus, there is NO 'Beam Forming Standard...and don't expect one in the future. since it is more of a 'type of antenna design' and not a 'defined formula'. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/25/2010 5:54 PM, Rogelio wrote: I see lots of discussion about the new 802.11n standard supporting beam forming, and I'm trying to wade through the chipset ones (e.g. Ruckus, Extricom, Meru, etc) and other solutions that claim to be more standards based. From what I gather from the marketing literature, the various vendor solutions direct the signal more efficiently towards specific targets (focusing beam in certain direction, monitoring interference, interference nulling, etc), but that seems to have limited effectiveness when it comes to receiving transmitted packets from the client end (resulting in slow uplink?). In some of these cases, the receive antennas are just an omni antenna. (802.11 is not a timing based protocol, so I don't see how beamforming benefits on the receive side will ever happen) So is the best that we can hope for with beam forming is faster download but the same old upload? How will the standard (once baked in more vendor gear) do things differently? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Every email and website to be stored
I'm working on a plan to use the ionosphere to store the excess data. I've channeled Nikola Tesla and he tells me it's possible. Retrieval, however, is a bit harder and may require some major granting. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 1:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Every email and website to be stored I'm thinking of trying to corner the Hard Drive Market there... Marco On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 10/22/2010 02:46 PM, you wrote: That is an insane amount of storage. E-mail all your customers what their policy is going to do to the cost of their service. Bear in mind that the proposal in question applies to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not the United States of America, so unless you're British, you and your customers aren't impacted (except for their correspondence via British ISPs). That country also has an insane number of surveillance cameras. Marco On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: URL is broken the irony is thick. Lol. Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after the Coalition Government revived controversial Big Brother snooping plans. It will allow security services and the police to spy on the activities of every Briton who uses a phone or the internet. Moves to make every communications provider store details for at least a year will be unveiled later this year sparking fresh fears over a return of the surveillance state,,, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-an d-website-to-be-stored.html -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Hacking Tranzeo
I have had a thought since MUM. Is there anyone who has loaded wrt-dd or MTik ROS on a Tranzeo CPQ. It's a micro pc with a wireless card. I would love to get ROS v5 on them with the Nv2 to use the TDMA. Thoughts?? Ideas??? I like Tranzeo and UBNT but all my AP's are Mikrotik. To go to a TDMA OS on the 500 clients I have out would be great. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hacking Tranzeo
Chipsets are probably to old for nv2 but ROS maybe. Needs a lot of RAM. On Oct 25, 2010 10:28 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: I have had a thought since MUM. Is there anyone who has loaded wrt-dd or MTik ROS on a Tranzeo CPQ. It's a micro pc with a wireless card. I would love to get ROS v5 on them with the Nv2 to use the TDMA. Thoughts?? Ideas??? I like Tranzeo and UBNT but all my AP's are Mikrotik. To go to a TDMA OS on the 500 clients I have out would be great. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks
Create a user, aardvark, password aardvark Let them login with no rights! Over in a second! Tried it on the home MT Routerboard They WIN! Oh, heck... no use. They moved on. Was all in fun! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 12:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks Brute force attack. Various user names, various passwords. Dictionary attack. Seems to be happening all the time now. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 11:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks What do you consider a brute force attack? We tarpit traffic coming into our network on ssh, ftp, etc. then put an exception list for known server customers. I am always looking to identify and block extra stuff at our border Scott Piehn - Original Message - From: RickG mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks Not here. What ip range? On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Is it just me or is everyone having their gateway servers attacked by those Chinese so-and so's? (WISPA REGS) My logs show attacks all weekend on all of my MT gateways. Sad Never had that before. Even the Routerboard I use at the house. RELENTLESS! Just sharing They get swatted off so it's all good but it's interesting to watch their attack Moving on. Steve- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks
Using it but as suggested, changed the timeout to 7 days. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 12:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks I suggest using the SSH blacklist script from Butch. I use it myself and it works perfectly. If you are already, increase the duration to 7d. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Ssh. I blocked ssh from the get-go so they haven't a chance anyhow. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 11:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks What do you consider a brute force attack? We tarpit traffic coming into our network on ssh, ftp, etc. then put an exception list for known server customers. I am always looking to identify and block extra stuff at our border Scott Piehn - Original Message - From: RickG mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attacks Not here. What ip range? On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Is it just me or is everyone having their gateway servers attacked by those Chinese so-and so's? (WISPA REGS) My logs show attacks all weekend on all of my MT gateways. Sad Never had that before. Even the Routerboard I use at the house. RELENTLESS! Just sharing They get swatted off so it's all good but it's interesting to watch their attack Moving on. Steve- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hacking Tranzeo
Ram Bootstrap would be the challenge. Not saying it can¹t be done, just would be a challenge. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:28:22 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Hacking Tranzeo I have had a thought since MUM. Is there anyone who has loaded wrt-dd or MTik ROS on a Tranzeo CPQ. It¹s a micro pc with a wireless card. I would love to get ROS v5 on them with the Nv2 to use the TDMA. Thoughts?? Ideas??? I like Tranzeo and UBNT but all my AP¹s are Mikrotik. To go to a TDMA OS on the 500 clients I have out would be great. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP surplussing Moto units
Motorola brand reflectors. As for pricing I haven't really looked at their value yet, I'll look at a few sources tomorrow so I can get an idea. Forbes On 10/25/2010 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of reflectors? On Oct 25, 2010 9:38 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: I'm going to list some Motorola radios for sale on eBay but I'll give first shot to my fellow WISP's, they are all used early edition and recently taken out of service: 4 5700 SM 4 5700 BH-10 2 5700 BH-20 1 5700 AP 1 5400 AP 1 5200 AP 1 5200 SM 14 reflectors Let me know if you want any before I put them on eBay. Thanks, Forbes forbes.me...@wabroadband.com mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com (509) 853-0858 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
