Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
I don't know whether it helps or not, but we put in policy routes so that every four or eight routed subnets were NATed out through a different IP address. Something like: 192.168.248.0-192.168.255.0 goes out through 208.14.222.10 192.168.240.0-192.168.247.0 goes out through 208.14.222.11 etc etc Since putting these rules in, a lot of our NAT issues have gone away. We have a LOT of customers on Facebook and Hotmail, and they get very vocal when stuff isn't working, so I know that it is working well for the most part. This is on a StarOS NAT box, but we are going to be replacing it with Mikrotik in another month or so. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 11/26/2010 9:16 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: > Hmm, I ran into issues with NAT'ing that many customers too. I had to break > it out better than what I had. My issues were similar to what you're seeing > - just really unpredictable behavior from some sites. Was going over the > max possible NAT connections. I'm pretty sure this was on a Mikrotik at the > time, but it's been a few years back so I can't remember all the details. > > With this many customers I would be looking at something better than ADSL > connections. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Optimum Wireless Services > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 10:10 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail > > Yes. I'm doing NAT for the entire network. > > Someone suggested to upgrade to the squid ver 3.1. I was using 3.0.24. > Upgraded and will run the newer version and see how things work. I need > squid on the network to save a little bit of bw. Also I'm running > videocache which needs squid. > > I'll let you know how things go from here. > > > On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:57 -0600, Matt wrote: >>> profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3 >>> 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120 >> Just curious, do you NAT everyone? >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
I'm not using MikroTik for the gw. I'm running it on a Debian Lenny box with an iptables script. Look into tcp max connections maybe? On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 10:16 -0600, Jason Hensley wrote: > Hmm, I ran into issues with NAT'ing that many customers too. I had to break > it out better than what I had. My issues were similar to what you're seeing > - just really unpredictable behavior from some sites. Was going over the > max possible NAT connections. I'm pretty sure this was on a Mikrotik at the > time, but it's been a few years back so I can't remember all the details. > > With this many customers I would be looking at something better than ADSL > connections. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Optimum Wireless Services > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 10:10 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail > > Yes. I'm doing NAT for the entire network. > > Someone suggested to upgrade to the squid ver 3.1. I was using 3.0.24. > Upgraded and will run the newer version and see how things work. I need > squid on the network to save a little bit of bw. Also I'm running > videocache which needs squid. > > I'll let you know how things go from here. > > > On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:57 -0600, Matt wrote: > > > profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3 > > > 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120 > > > > Just curious, do you NAT everyone? > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
Hmm, I ran into issues with NAT'ing that many customers too. I had to break it out better than what I had. My issues were similar to what you're seeing - just really unpredictable behavior from some sites. Was going over the max possible NAT connections. I'm pretty sure this was on a Mikrotik at the time, but it's been a few years back so I can't remember all the details. With this many customers I would be looking at something better than ADSL connections. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Optimum Wireless Services Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 10:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail Yes. I'm doing NAT for the entire network. Someone suggested to upgrade to the squid ver 3.1. I was using 3.0.24. Upgraded and will run the newer version and see how things work. I need squid on the network to save a little bit of bw. Also I'm running videocache which needs squid. I'll let you know how things go from here. On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:57 -0600, Matt wrote: > > profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3 > > 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120 > > Just curious, do you NAT everyone? > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
Butch Evans QOS might help to if you are using mikrotik. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 26, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote: > Yes. I'm doing NAT for the entire network. > > Someone suggested to upgrade to the squid ver 3.1. I was using 3.0.24. > Upgraded and will run the newer version and see how things work. I need > squid on the network to save a little bit of bw. Also I'm running > videocache which needs squid. > > I'll let you know how things go from here. > > > On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:57 -0600, Matt wrote: >>> profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3 >>> 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120 >> >> Just curious, do you NAT everyone? >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
Yes. I'm doing NAT for the entire network. Someone suggested to upgrade to the squid ver 3.1. I was using 3.0.24. Upgraded and will run the newer version and see how things work. I need squid on the network to save a little bit of bw. Also I'm running videocache which needs squid. I'll let you know how things go from here. On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:57 -0600, Matt wrote: > > profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3 > > 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120 > > Just curious, do you NAT everyone? > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
> profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3 > 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120 Just curious, do you NAT everyone? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
I'm suspecting squid might be the problem. I disabled squid and I'm just forwarding and things look better. Now, I will test it this evening when more people are connected. Without squid I'm able to throttle upload traffic so, that might be another reason why things may work better. On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 11:57 -0800, Chuck Profito wrote: > Agreed, everyone gets different photo and messages depending who their > associated to. it would probably drive the squid nuts, especially when FB is > busy and slow and squid is trying to compare. > BTW, Watch out on not controlling the upload, one sub ftp'ing out or P2P > could kill your full download. I'm guessing, but, you are probably only 1/2 > duplex. > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Jeremie Chism > Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 11:08 AM > To: wil...@optimumwireless.com; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail > > Could be your squid cache. > > Sent from my iPhone4 > > On Nov 25, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Optimum Wireless Services > wrote: > > > Travis, thanks for replying. I first thought I didn't have enough > > bandwidth but, I have three 5meg lines. Previously I only had 2 and > > things were worst. After adding the additional line things got better > > but, not really good. > > > > Our three lines are connected to tp-link load balancer then to our gw > > running debian which throttles user's bandwithd at 512kbps download, not > > able to throttle upload bw yet. Also this gw is running squid for cache. > > > > You still think I need to add another line? > > > > > > On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 07:42 -0700, Travis Johnson wrote: > >> I would guess you are running out of bandwidth. 5meg isn't much for 120 > >> customers, especially since most of them are probably trying to use it > >> at nearly the same time (6:00PM - 10:00PM). > >> > >> Travis > >> Microserv > >> > >> > >> On 11/25/2010 6:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote: > >>> Hello. > >>> > >>> Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing facebook > >>> and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on hotmail after > >>> entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other people's > >>> profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3 > >>> 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120 > >>> customers and have complained so much about it that is already getting > >>> on me. > >>> > >>> Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems with these > >>> two websites. > >>> > >>> Thanks in advanced. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>> > > > >>> > >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>> > >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT GPS
Well, interesting to note that the GPS coordinates are in the same town as Ligowave, Kaunas, Lithuania. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I thought Hal was out of Atlanta... or somewhere else there in the south. > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com > > > On 11/25/2010 8:53 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > > I don't even think WHT is saying much about it...from what people say about > him, he's a big beta/alpha tester. If you look at the GPS Coordinates from > the page, it shows Lithuania, which is probably UBNT-Hal working on it since > he was working for Ligowave out of Lithuania in the exact same town. > > It would be funny to see if UBNT/Ligowave-Deliberant-Wiligear were to > merge...doubtful...but UBNT picked off some of their guys. > > Regards, > Chuck > > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Robert West > wrote: > >> Sure! All ya got to do is find one! >> >> (Four months from now.) >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Philip Dorr >> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 2:39 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT GPS >> >> Is it even for sale yet? >> >> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 1:13 PM, RickG wrote: >> > Anyone test this yet? >> > http://www.ubnt.com/rocketmgps >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> >> >> >> > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
