[WISPA] Tom

2011-01-06 Thread Blake Bowers
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[WISPA] want to sell

2011-01-06 Thread Jim Patient
There was a guy at the STL WISPA show that buys WISPs.  I don't remember 
his name.  I am getting to the point that I just don't have time to take 
care of it and would like to sell.  If anybody would be interested in 
buying a WISP in eastern MO south of STL contact me off-list 
jpati...@wifimw.com.  The company is growing fast and we just lit up 2 
new towers in great areas.  Most of our areas don't have much or any 
competition other than sat and dial up.
www.wifimidwest.com

If you have any suggestions on where to start looking for a buyer let me 
know.

Thanx

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[WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread Nick Olsen
We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page 
on the first page load.
We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what 
we have on location already.
The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected 
to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or 
something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own 
stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but 
this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So 
we couldn't add some form of login button to it.
I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the 
way.
What is everyone else doing?

Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(855) FLSPEED  x106






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Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread Robert West
I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device
someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it
off.  The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel
and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless
device one could think of.  Some would go but the ones that had to work in
secure mode wouldn't allow the redirect.  Bogus.  Turned it off and the
calls went away.

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

 

We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on
the first page load.
We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what
we have on location already.
The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected
to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or
something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own
stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but
this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So
we couldn't add some form of login button to it.
I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the
way.
What is everyone else doing?

Nick Olsen
Network Operations 

(855) FLSPEED  x106

  http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg 




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Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread Cameron Crum
What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not
just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all
the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to
say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them
in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can
continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea.

Cameron

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device
 someone was trying to use that wouldn’t go through the redirect, I turned it
 off.  The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel
 and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless
 device one could think of.  Some would go but the ones that had to work in
 secure mode wouldn’t allow the redirect.  Bogus.  Turned it off and the
 calls went away.







 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Nick Olsen
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* [WISPA] Hotel Redirect



 We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page
 on the first page load.
 We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what
 we have on location already.
 The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected
 to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or
 something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own
 stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but
 this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So
 we couldn't add some form of login button to it.
 I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the
 way.
 What is everyone else doing?

 Nick Olsen
 Network Operations

 (855) FLSPEED  x106





 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread Cameron Crum
You could also put in a link to the real hotel page and put that url in the
walled garden so they can hit it no matter what, even on the first try.

Cameron

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote:

 What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not
 just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all
 the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to
 say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them
 in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can
 continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea.

 Cameron

 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West 
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device
 someone was trying to use that wouldn’t go through the redirect, I turned it
 off.  The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel
 and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless
 device one could think of.  Some would go but the ones that had to work in
 secure mode wouldn’t allow the redirect.  Bogus.  Turned it off and the
 calls went away.







 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Nick Olsen
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* [WISPA] Hotel Redirect



 We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page
 on the first page load.
 We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what
 we have on location already.
 The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected
 to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or
 something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own
 stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but
 this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So
 we couldn't add some form of login button to it.
 I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the
 way.
 What is everyone else doing?

 Nick Olsen
 Network Operations

 (855) FLSPEED  x106





 
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Re: [WISPA] want to sell

2011-01-06 Thread support
you might try the VISP

http://www.visp.net/faq/

On 1/6/2011 12:04 PM, Jim Patient wrote:
 There was a guy at the STL WISPA show that buys WISPs.  I don't remember
 his name.  I am getting to the point that I just don't have time to take
 care of it and would like to sell.  If anybody would be interested in
 buying a WISP in eastern MO south of STL contact me off-list
 jpati...@wifimw.com.  The company is growing fast and we just lit up 2
 new towers in great areas.  Most of our areas don't have much or any
 competition other than sat and dial up.
 www.wifimidwest.com

 If you have any suggestions on where to start looking for a buyer let me
 know.

 Thanx



-- 


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supp...@nitline.com

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(574) 772-7550 ext 103

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Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread Nick Olsen
That would work for some of them, In this case, The hotel management company 
has a page that the hotel must redirect to. They get fined if it doesn't 
redirect to the companies specific page.
I'm thinking maybe load it in a frame, or something. And have a login button 
above it or something. Was hoping someone had a cleaner way.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(855) FLSPEED  x106



From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:04 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not just 
creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all the 
functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to say 
thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them in 
(really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can continue 
on to their regular home page. Just an idea.

Cameron

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:



I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device 
someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it 
off.  The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel 
and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless device 
one could think of.  Some would go but the ones that had to work in secure mode 
wouldn't allow the redirect.  Bogus.  Turned it off and the calls went away.




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect






We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on 
the first page load.
We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we 
have on location already.
The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a 
page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they 
go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used 
hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't 
control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of 
login button to it.
I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way.
What is everyone else doing?

Nick Olsen
Network Operations

(855) FLSPEED  x106


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Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread Robert West
At the beginning it was a disclaimer page that the hotel operator wanted to
have at the suggestion of his lawyer.  Basically it would say It's free but
everyone else is also on it and don't come crying to me if your computer or
finances get all jacked up.

 

The Patel wanted to try to make a buck and sell ad's on the splash page.  

 

But it's gone now.  Thankfully.

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

 

What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not
just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all
the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to
say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them
in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can
continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea.

Cameron

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
wrote:

I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device
someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it
off.  The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel
and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless
device one could think of.  Some would go but the ones that had to work in
secure mode wouldn't allow the redirect.  Bogus.  Turned it off and the
calls went away.

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

 

We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on
the first page load.
We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what
we have on location already.
The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected
to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or
something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own
stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but
this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So
we couldn't add some form of login button to it.
I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the
way.
What is everyone else doing?

Nick Olsen
Network Operations 

(855) FLSPEED  x106

Error! Filename not specified.






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Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread David E. Smith
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 13:31, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:

 That would work for some of them, In this case, The hotel management
 company has a page that the hotel must redirect to. They get fined if it
 doesn't redirect to the companies specific page.
 I'm thinking maybe load it in a frame, or something. And have a login
 button above it or something. Was hoping someone had a cleaner way.



I'm doing something very similar to this. I just put the whole mandatory
page on the Mikrotik box itself, and made the I agree to the TOS link into
a silently log this MAC into the hotspot for 24 hours link.

David Smith
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Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread Robert West
The problem that I was seeing was that there are many wireless devices now
that don't have any screen to see a login button.  Game systems being the
first on my mind.  In hotels, some guests bring their kids game system to
keep them from running the halls..  How can you get these basically blind
systems to punch through a page like that?

 

I never had the time to get the workaround.

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

 

That would work for some of them, In this case, The hotel management company
has a page that the hotel must redirect to. They get fined if it doesn't
redirect to the companies specific page.
I'm thinking maybe load it in a frame, or something. And have a login button
above it or something. Was hoping someone had a cleaner way.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations 

(855) FLSPEED  x106

  http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg 

 

  _  

From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:04 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not
just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all
the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to
say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them
in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can
continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea.

Cameron

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
wrote:

I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device
someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it
off.  The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel
and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless
device one could think of.  Some would go but the ones that had to work in
secure mode wouldn't allow the redirect.  Bogus.  Turned it off and the
calls went away.

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

 

We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on
the first page load.
We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what
we have on location already.
The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected
to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or
something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own
stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but
this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So
we couldn't add some form of login button to it.
I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the
way.
What is everyone else doing?

Nick Olsen
Network Operations 

(855) FLSPEED  x106

Error! Filename not specified.






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Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread David E. Smith
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 13:45, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 The problem that I was seeing was that there are many wireless devices now
 that don’t have any “screen” to see a login button.  Game systems being the
 first on my mind.  In hotels, some guests bring their kids game system to
 keep them from running the halls……  How can you get these basically blind
 systems to punch through a page like that?


I suppose, in that case, you could keep a few wireless bridges around to
lend to guests, with crossover cables, with their MACs already
pre-authorized. (Might have to have it do NAT, so the AP only sees its MAC
and not the MAC of the Xbox or whatever. Depends on the device.)

Or get the system's MAC, but that adds a lot of extra complications (your
hotel clerks now need to know how to get that information from every device
ever made, and how to add the MAC to an ACL somewhere).

David Smith
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Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread Robert West
Possibly a simple screen the desk people can use to see what MAC ID is
attempting to login and do a manual authorize?  

 

It's in my mind now  That's a relief.  Finally not thinking about where
baby oil comes from..

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:46 PM
To: n...@flhsi.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

 

The problem that I was seeing was that there are many wireless devices now
that don't have any screen to see a login button.  Game systems being the
first on my mind.  In hotels, some guests bring their kids game system to
keep them from running the halls..  How can you get these basically blind
systems to punch through a page like that?

 

I never had the time to get the workaround.

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

 

That would work for some of them, In this case, The hotel management company
has a page that the hotel must redirect to. They get fined if it doesn't
redirect to the companies specific page.
I'm thinking maybe load it in a frame, or something. And have a login button
above it or something. Was hoping someone had a cleaner way.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations 

(855) FLSPEED  x106

  http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg 

 

  _  

From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:04 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not
just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all
the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to
say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them
in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can
continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea.

Cameron

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
wrote:

I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device
someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it
off.  The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel
and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless
device one could think of.  Some would go but the ones that had to work in
secure mode wouldn't allow the redirect.  Bogus.  Turned it off and the
calls went away.

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

 

We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on
the first page load.
We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what
we have on location already.
The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected
to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or
something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own
stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but
this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So
we couldn't add some form of login button to it.
I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the
way.
What is everyone else doing?

Nick Olsen
Network Operations 

(855) FLSPEED  x106

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[WISPA] CWA Broadband Report

2011-01-06 Thread Robert West
We're 41!  We're 41!!!

 

Just got this from our pals at Connected Nation.  I'm so proud

 

 

http://cwa.3cdn.net/25239e0340bb2a2021_v9m6bzg1t.pdf

 

 

http://cwa.3cdn.net/299ed94e144d5adeb1_mlblqoxe9.pdf

 

 

 

Robert West

Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

740-335-7020

 

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Re: [WISPA] CWA Broadband Report

2011-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Speed test servers are probably in states like Rhonda Island.  Speed to
Rhode Island to Rhode Island  Rhonda Island to California.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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 We’re 41!  We’re 41!!!



 Just got this from our pals at Connected Nation.  I’m so proud……..





 http://cwa.3cdn.net/25239e0340bb2a2021_v9m6bzg1t.pdf





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 Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

 740-335-7020



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Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread Nick Olsen
Normally Hotspot works with a I accept button on a page, As thats what we 
have done in the past. I don't mind getting a call when a user has a 
tivo/gamesystem/* that can't login as they can read me the mac and I can bypass 
it.
The point with this is it goes to a page we don't control, And can't really 
change at all.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(855) FLSPEED  x106



From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:49 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect



Possibly a simple screen the desk people can use to see what MAC ID is 
attempting to login and do a manual authorize?

It's in my mind now  That's a relief.  Finally not thinking about where 
baby oil comes from..





From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:46 PM
To: n...@flhsi.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect



The problem that I was seeing was that there are many wireless devices now that 
don't have any screen to see a login button.  Game systems being the first on 
my mind.  In hotels, some guests bring their kids game system to keep them from 
running the halls..  How can you get these basically blind systems to punch 
through a page like that?

I never had the time to get the workaround.



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect


That would work for some of them, In this case, The hotel management company 
has a page that the hotel must redirect to. They get fined if it doesn't 
redirect to the companies specific page.
I'm thinking maybe load it in a frame, or something. And have a login button 
above it or something. Was hoping someone had a cleaner way.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations

(855) FLSPEED  x106









From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:04 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not just 
creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all the 
functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to say 
thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them in 
(really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can continue 
on to their regular home page. Just an idea.

Cameron

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:


I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device 
someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it 
off.  The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel 
and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless device 
one could think of.  Some would go but the ones that had to work in secure mode 
wouldn't allow the redirect.  Bogus.  Turned it off and the calls went away.




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect




We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on 
the first page load.
We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we 
have on location already.
The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a 
page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they 
go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used 
hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't 
control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of 
login button to it.
I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way.
What is everyone else doing?

Nick Olsen
Network Operations

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Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread Robert West
I hear ya, brother.  I hear ya.  These hotel higher ups need to get with the
Now on this wireless.  

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

 

Normally Hotspot works with a I accept button on a page, As thats what we
have done in the past. I don't mind getting a call when a user has a
tivo/gamesystem/* that can't login as they can read me the mac and I can
bypass it.
The point with this is it goes to a page we don't control, And can't really
change at all.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations 

(855) FLSPEED  x106

  http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg 

 

  _  

From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:49 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

Possibly a simple screen the desk people can use to see what MAC ID is
attempting to login and do a manual authorize?  

 

It's in my mind now  That's a relief.  Finally not thinking about where
baby oil comes from..

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:46 PM
To: n...@flhsi.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

 

The problem that I was seeing was that there are many wireless devices now
that don't have any screen to see a login button.  Game systems being the
first on my mind.  In hotels, some guests bring their kids game system to
keep them from running the halls..  How can you get these basically blind
systems to punch through a page like that?

 

I never had the time to get the workaround.

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

 

That would work for some of them, In this case, The hotel management company
has a page that the hotel must redirect to. They get fined if it doesn't
redirect to the companies specific page.
I'm thinking maybe load it in a frame, or something. And have a login button
above it or something. Was hoping someone had a cleaner way.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations 

(855) FLSPEED  x106

  http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg 

 

  _  

From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:04 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not
just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all
the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to
say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them
in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can
continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea.

Cameron

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
wrote:

I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device
someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it
off.  The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel
and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless
device one could think of.  Some would go but the ones that had to work in
secure mode wouldn't allow the redirect.  Bogus.  Turned it off and the
calls went away.

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

 

We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on
the first page load.
We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what
we have on location already.
The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected
to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or
something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own
stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but
this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So
we couldn't add some form of login button to it.
I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the
way.
What is everyone else doing?

Nick Olsen
Network Operations 

(855) FLSPEED  x106

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Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread David E. Smith
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 14:20, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:

 Normally Hotspot works with a I accept button on a page, As thats what we
 have done in the past. I don't mind getting a call when a user has a
 tivo/gamesystem/* that can't login as they can read me the mac and I can
 bypass it.
 The point with this is it goes to a page we don't control, And can't really
 change at all.


Could you do something crazy like put their site in an iframe? Have the
parent page include their mandatory page, and a bit of JavaScript. That
JavaScript has their MAC embedded in a link, using the same sort of link as
the click to accept TOS link, which auto-refreshes after one second (thus
logging them in as though they'd clicked that link themselves). Then add
their page (and whatever other things it uses) to the walled-garden.

Yes, this fails if they disable JavaScript, but it's a reasonable price to
pay.

David Smith
MVN.net



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Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread Blake Covarrubias
How about this?

/ip firewall nat
add chain=dstnat in-interface=ether2 protocol=tcp dst-port=80 action=accept 
src-address-list=proxy-bypass
add chain=dstnat in-interface=ether2 protocol=tcp dst-port=80 
action=add-src-to-address-list address-list=proxy-bypass 
address-list-timeout=1d 
add chain=dstnat in-interface=ether2 protocol=tcp dst-port=80 action=redirect 
to-ports=8080

/ip proxy
set enabled=yes port=8080

/ip proxy access
add dst-port=80 action=allow dst-host=www.hotel.tld
add dst-port=80 action=deny redirect-to=www.hotel.tld

If you're not using proxy for anything else then it works great. Although, it 
does not allow them to simply reload the page to reach the URL they initially 
intended. The user would have to issue a totally new request to see the content 
they desire.

--
Blake Covarrubias
Network Manager / IT Consultant
Beamspeed, LLC

On Jan 6, 2011, at 1:41 PM, David E. Smith wrote:

 
 
 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 14:20, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:
 Normally Hotspot works with a I accept button on a page, As thats what we 
 have done in the past. I don't mind getting a call when a user has a 
 tivo/gamesystem/* that can't login as they can read me the mac and I can 
 bypass it.
 The point with this is it goes to a page we don't control, And can't really 
 change at all.
 
 Could you do something crazy like put their site in an iframe? Have the 
 parent page include their mandatory page, and a bit of JavaScript. That 
 JavaScript has their MAC embedded in a link, using the same sort of link as 
 the click to accept TOS link, which auto-refreshes after one second (thus 
 logging them in as though they'd clicked that link themselves). Then add 
 their page (and whatever other things it uses) to the walled-garden.
 
 Yes, this fails if they disable JavaScript, but it's a reasonable price to 
 pay.
 
 David Smith
 MVN.net
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect

2011-01-06 Thread Sam Tetherow

Would something like this work?

If you used a large enough pool of IPs.
DHCP with a 24 hour expire time.
Then basically:


1) src-address-list=SEEN and out-interface=INTERNET passthrough=no 
action=accept


2) action=add-to-address-list address-list=SEEN address-list-timeout=24h 
passthrough=yes


3) redirect

So the first time through it doesn't match the accept in rule 1), 
instead it gets added to the address list (rule 2) and redirected (rule 
3).  Then all subsequent traffic for the next 24hours matches the first 
rule and is accepted by rule 1.


Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless

On 1/6/11 2:41 PM, David E. Smith wrote:



On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 14:20, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com 
mailto:n...@flhsi.com wrote:


Normally Hotspot works with a I accept button on a page, As
thats what we have done in the past. I don't mind getting a call
when a user has a tivo/gamesystem/* that can't login as they can
read me the mac and I can bypass it.
The point with this is it goes to a page we don't control, And
can't really change at all.


Could you do something crazy like put their site in an iframe? Have 
the parent page include their mandatory page, and a bit of 
JavaScript. That JavaScript has their MAC embedded in a link, using 
the same sort of link as the click to accept TOS link, which 
auto-refreshes after one second (thus logging them in as though they'd 
clicked that link themselves). Then add their page (and whatever other 
things it uses) to the walled-garden.


Yes, this fails if they disable JavaScript, but it's a reasonable 
price to pay.


David Smith
MVN.net





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[WISPA] 11Ghz Licensing Warning Question

2011-01-06 Thread Scott Carullo
Comsearch has this to say on one of the sites in coordination, anyone know 
what it is supposed to mean?  They are closed now, I'm not being patient 
sry :)

Path Warnings Document





FCC Rule Part(s)
 
Description
 
Result / Action
 
 

N/A
 


site1 Radio Equipped with Adaptive Modulation.
 


Review Radio Parameters
 
 

N/A
 


site2 Radio Equipped with Adaptive Modulation.
 


Review Radio Parameters
 
 

101.31 (b) (1) (ii)
 


site1 - ASR may be required based on C/L Height.
 


Verify/Change Antenna Height or File with FAA
 
 

N/A
 


site1 Failed Glide Slope or Height requirement.
 


Verify/Change Antenna Height or File with FAA
 


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Re: [WISPA] 11Ghz Licensing Warning Question

2011-01-06 Thread Brian Webster
The last two entries are relative to the FAA height restrictions for that
location based on a possible encroachment to an instrument approach of one
kind or another. If this link is going on an existing tower or structure,
make sure you have the proper mounting height and that it does not exceed
the existing structure height. If you took a guess at the mounting height,
this may be your problem and you requested a height taller than the existing
approved structure. If it is a new tower you are building, you will need to
go through the whole FAA study process and will likely have to light this
structure if you can even get the requested height approved. If this is
going on an existing structure that has lights, find out the current FAA
approval number for the study that was originally conducted and put that on
the application.

 



Thank You,

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 http://www.wirelessmapping.com www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 5:46 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] 11Ghz Licensing Warning Question

 

Comsearch has this to say on one of the sites in coordination, anyone know
what it is supposed to mean?  They are closed now, I'm not being patient sry
:)


Path Warnings Document


FCC Rule Part(s)


Description

Result / Action


N/A

site1 Radio Equipped with Adaptive Modulation.

Review Radio Parameters


N/A

site2 Radio Equipped with Adaptive Modulation.

Review Radio Parameters


101.31 (b) (1) (ii)

site1 - ASR may be required based on C/L Height.

Verify/Change Antenna Height or File with FAA


N/A

site1 Failed Glide Slope or Height requirement.

Verify/Change Antenna Height or File with FAA



Thanks

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
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[WISPA] Ubiquity UniFi Dual Band Radios

2011-01-06 Thread Jerry Richardson
Any sign these are at least on the boat?






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[WISPA] M365 with GPS

2011-01-06 Thread Blair Davis


  
  
anyone know an availability date yet?


  




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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity UniFi Dual Band Radios

2011-01-06 Thread Scott Carullo
What makes you think they are dual band radios?

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From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com
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To: motor...@afmug.com motor...@afmug.com, WISPA General List 
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Re: [WISPA] Qualcomm agreed to acquire Atheros Communications for $3.1 billion in cash

2011-01-06 Thread John Scrivner
Isn't every Ubnt radio sold powered by Atheros chips? I wonder if this
could mean a future issue for our supply of low cost radios?
Scriv


On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Brough Turner r...@ashtonbrooke.com wrote:

 Qualcomm agreed to acquire Atheros Communications for $3.1 billion in cash,
 seeking to fill a hole in its chip-making operations.

 Atheros's shares closed Tuesday at $44, compared with the $45 offer price.
 The target's stock had surged Tuesday following news that Qualcomm was close
 to making the deal.

 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704405704576063453274665320.html?mod=djemalertTECH

 another article (not behind a registration or pay wall):

 http://www.slashgear.com/qualcomm-buy-atheros-in-3-1bn-ubiquitous-connectivity-deal-05123321/

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Re: [WISPA] Qualcomm agreed to acquire Atheros Communications for $3.1 billion in cash

2011-01-06 Thread Mike Hammett
UBNT, Mikrotik, Alvarion VL, etc.

I'd imagine most things not Motorola use one.

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On 1/6/2011 8:24 PM, John Scrivner wrote:
 Isn't every Ubnt radio sold powered by Atheros chips? I wonder if this
 could mean a future issue for our supply of low cost radios?
 Scriv


 On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Brough Turnerr...@ashtonbrooke.com  wrote:
 Qualcomm agreed to acquire Atheros Communications for $3.1 billion in cash,
 seeking to fill a hole in its chip-making operations.

 Atheros's shares closed Tuesday at $44, compared with the $45 offer price.
 The target's stock had surged Tuesday following news that Qualcomm was close
 to making the deal.

 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704405704576063453274665320.html?mod=djemalertTECH

 another article (not behind a registration or pay wall):

 http://www.slashgear.com/qualcomm-buy-atheros-in-3-1bn-ubiquitous-connectivity-deal-05123321/

 Thanks,
 Brough

 netBlazr - Free your broadband
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Re: [WISPA] Qualcomm agreed to acquire Atheros Communications for $3.1 billion in cash

2011-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Trango doesn't!

Atheros is very very popular and in a lot of devices.  I wouldn't say
most, though.

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 UBNT, Mikrotik, Alvarion VL, etc.

 I'd imagine most things not Motorola use one.

 -
 Mike Hammett
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 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 1/6/2011 8:24 PM, John Scrivner wrote:
  Isn't every Ubnt radio sold powered by Atheros chips? I wonder if this
  could mean a future issue for our supply of low cost radios?
  Scriv
 
 
  On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Brough Turnerr...@ashtonbrooke.com
  wrote:
  Qualcomm agreed to acquire Atheros Communications for $3.1 billion in
 cash,
  seeking to fill a hole in its chip-making operations.
 
  Atheros's shares closed Tuesday at $44, compared with the $45 offer
 price.
  The target's stock had surged Tuesday following news that Qualcomm was
 close
  to making the deal.
 
 
 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704405704576063453274665320.html?mod=djemalertTECH
 
  another article (not behind a registration or pay wall):
 
 
 http://www.slashgear.com/qualcomm-buy-atheros-in-3-1bn-ubiquitous-connectivity-deal-05123321/
 
  Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Qualcomm agreed to acquire Atheros Communications for $3.1 billion in cash

2011-01-06 Thread Mike Hammett

Trango doesn't make a whole lot of non-licensed gear anymore.  ;-)

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On 1/6/2011 8:41 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Trango doesn't!

Atheros is very very popular and in a lot of devices.  I wouldn't say 
most, though.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:


UBNT, Mikrotik, Alvarion VL, etc.

I'd imagine most things not Motorola use one.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 1/6/2011 8:24 PM, John Scrivner wrote:
 Isn't every Ubnt radio sold powered by Atheros chips? I wonder
if this
 could mean a future issue for our supply of low cost radios?
 Scriv


 On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Brough
Turnerr...@ashtonbrooke.com mailto:r...@ashtonbrooke.com  wrote:
 Qualcomm agreed to acquire Atheros Communications for $3.1
billion in cash,
 seeking to fill a hole in its chip-making operations.

 Atheros's shares closed Tuesday at $44, compared with the $45
offer price.
 The target's stock had surged Tuesday following news that
Qualcomm was close
 to making the deal.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704405704576063453274665320.html?mod=djemalertTECH

 another article (not behind a registration or pay wall):



http://www.slashgear.com/qualcomm-buy-atheros-in-3-1bn-ubiquitous-connectivity-deal-05123321/

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity UniFi Dual Band Radios

2011-01-06 Thread Jerry Richardson
The pro version will be.

Word from UBNT is end of Q1

- Jerry

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity UniFi Dual Band Radios

What makes you think they are dual band radios?
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Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity UniFi Dual Band Radios
Any sign these are at least on the boat?





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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity UniFi Dual Band Radios

2011-01-06 Thread Robert West
But will they be Dual Band concurrently or will they run only either or?

 

 

 

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The pro version will be.

 

Word from UBNT is end of Q1

 

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity UniFi Dual Band Radios

 

What makes you think they are dual band radios?

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Re: [WISPA] Qualcomm agreed to acquire Atheros Communications for $3.1 billion in cash

2011-01-06 Thread Robert West
I'm sure that if they jack up the price, a Chinese manufacturer will be more
than happy to fill the void with chips that somehow operate the same as
the Atheros.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Qualcomm agreed to acquire Atheros Communications for
$3.1 billion in cash

Isn't every Ubnt radio sold powered by Atheros chips? I wonder if this could
mean a future issue for our supply of low cost radios?
Scriv


On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Brough Turner r...@ashtonbrooke.com wrote:

 Qualcomm agreed to acquire Atheros Communications for $3.1 billion in 
 cash, seeking to fill a hole in its chip-making operations.

 Atheros's shares closed Tuesday at $44, compared with the $45 offer price.
 The target's stock had surged Tuesday following news that Qualcomm was 
 close to making the deal.

 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704405704576063453274665
 320.html?mod=djemalertTECH

 another article (not behind a registration or pay wall):

 http://www.slashgear.com/qualcomm-buy-atheros-in-3-1bn-ubiquitous-conn
 ectivity-deal-05123321/

 Thanks,
 Brough

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