[WISPA] Weird radar images
Looks very...lego like. http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?ID=ILNlat=40.03506851lon=-84.20671082label=Troy%2C+OHtype=N0Rzoommode=panmap.x=400map.y=240centerx=400centery=240prevzoom=zoomnum=10delay=15scale=1showlabels=1smooth=0noclutter=0showstorms=99rainsnow=1lightning=1 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fwd: [Ticket#2011021966000201] Reference Forum post: DHCP problem after upgrade 5.0rc9-5.0rc10
Everyone, I had a problem with a remote RB-750 (I'm in the Amazon, the RB-750 is in NY). Every time I'd upgrade to ROS v5.0rc10 from rc9 DHCP would stop working. I upgraded and out of necessity downgraded three times and finally sent supout.rifs to MT and opened a ticket. The reply is below. The bottom line is under rc10 if you don't have something plugged into Ether2 then DHCP stops working. FYI. Now I've got to talk my 70yo mom or 80yo dad through moving one of the ethernet cables. I can't GoToAssist that one unfortunately. I hate doing tech support for family, it's hard to not get ugly (did I get all the tech common sense in the family?). Or I can wait for RC11. Greg Begin forwarded message: Hello, Yes. Ether2 is master port for the switch by default configuration. Cable should be plugged in to Ether2 at 5.0rc10, the particular problem will be fixed in the next RouterOS version. Regards, Sergejs WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: [Ticket#2011021966000201] Reference Forum post: DHCP problem after upgrade 5.0rc9-5.0rc10
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:23:03AM -0430, Greg Ihnen wrote: Begin forwarded message: Hello, Yes. Ether2 is master port for the switch by default configuration. Cable should be plugged in to Ether2 at 5.0rc10, the particular problem will be fixed in the next RouterOS version. Regards, Sergejs snip Now I've got to talk my 70yo mom or 80yo dad through moving one of the ethernet cables. I can't GoToAssist that one unfortunately. I hate doing tech support for family, it's hard to not get ugly (did I get all the tech common sense in the family?). Or I can wait for RC11. Or, you can set the port which has the ethernet connected as the master and let port ether2 slave off it. I don't believe it matters which port is master or slave. Then reconfigure your DHCP server to listen on the new master port. That would be much easier than doing tech support for family. But, for my parents' router from 10,000 miles away, I'd probably just run a stable version of RouterOS, something like 4.13 or 4.16. Upgradeitis causes pain. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enrls=enq=upgradeitis -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Internet service in Austin TX
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I'm going to be relocating to Austin TX (northeast. Anderson Springs apartment complex). Anyone out there providing net access? I also will be keeping my small WISP in CA going, as I have many friends/colleagues back here. Very interested in mapping initiatives etc. I noticed that Austin has some great GIS resources and seems quite tech savvy. If no one is serving the area currently, I'll probably start another WISP up. - -- Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com) Systems craftsman for the stars http://www.knownelement.com Mobile: 626 539 4344 Office: 310 929 8793 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNYtQ1AAoJEMvvG/TyLEAtPp8QAK52Y6s9YvNJlwESXmuac3HS 0kJwwlZkznlU2XVOnOTd5gtcZgTNBpW20dF26VjQuLaK/TJWc7Qpfm1jp6RrMQ4g DNxo8hJzbYDOskodhZ9sy3bW9r/LPT7owkDkX9lIZHdA0SffsA+WqMOe9W6C4CJA vYCxIm34D18ZqRUqnNe1SAYrL5HulGab0hTxzJP+98liHiK31eHErgdvtNUOpJyh N+PCGIYzpPZg7PSrGc0+8wMqWF3mTcDxM0XeMTfjwvcxZ2qOZiVm4tyfrExNdh4E 9HSEgw2btqMeHHDDfc3fpc0rD2ZrljidRu3dVj6Mqg1CfeoNPNeHudRnckEeNC1x NRN6O9QOAoBSdueCBG4pe4Lf1a9iUpQ9gz2DzDEY6v5hvQFiZg6vjmT/TNmaku0h lPFXpR6vF5+3B5sKCKpHNUunKqZkHsJ2MrBjwIZg2yNq08CqrlkNHd4SiDVPosS6 ix/QHxnQ6HxwEUEvdG0aZq27DJS5/YSQXZdfydxFLA4A1JA5qsbB3JwLZx7k/Rss 8W1/BAibJiI4/7MjqWMsVtTSAoUEv8Q3roA2hvDaJz+4hINLJnxPKNF7YATCuLM6 5/V/iH8dl20xbomkU5EV/Su/Zs39Zq10IH7kNxh5zIAEYgwWBam6s9eljApaqYyr e9yro9nRSSDpbOJZqkhY =pW3W -END PGP SIGNATURE- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 16:21, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: We currently Q each customer at the tower. I am looking at my edge router trying to figure out who is using what Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more efficient way. I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower Do you mean queue? Anyway, the easiest thing to do is just to watch your traffic at the edge. If you're using Mikrotik, the integrated Torch tool is pretty nice, and can limit traffic by physical interface, or by IP. Valemount StarOS has a similar tool, as do most wireless platforms these days.. Failing that, set up a mirror port on a switch and fire up Wireshark. If you're doing the traffic shaping at each tower, why would you need or want to shape it at the edge? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge
If you're not NATing at the tower MTs you can just do simple queues on your core and don't do them at the tower. They'll catch the same traffic (assuming they're not talk to neighboring customers). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:52 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 16:21, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: We currently Q each customer at the tower. I am looking at my edge router trying to figure out who is using what Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more efficient way. I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower Do you mean queue? Anyway, the easiest thing to do is just to watch your traffic at the edge. If you're using Mikrotik, the integrated Torch tool is pretty nice, and can limit traffic by physical interface, or by IP. Valemount StarOS has a similar tool, as do most wireless platforms these days.. Failing that, set up a mirror port on a switch and fire up Wireshark. If you're doing the traffic shaping at each tower, why would you need or want to shape it at the edge? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Calculating Bandwidth Cost
Trying to calculate bandwidth costs. 1Mbps / 8 bits = 125,000 bytes a second. 125,000 x 60 x 60 x 24 x 30 = 324GBytes a month. This is just download we are looking at but since that is the majority of traffic and TDD/GPS Sync is often optimized for download we will just look at that and add download and upload on the user since upload likely hurts our AP's worse. Looking at my bandwidth graphs 50 percent of time is sorta off peak so: 324GBytes / 2 = 162GBytes. So say your cost per Meg is $100 $100 / 162 = $0.62 per gigabyte transferred. I realize this is just at your NOC but does this sound realistic? So a Media Streamer doing 200 Gigs a month costs $124in NOC bandwidth alone. Then you have last mile costs. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MT Q's at Edge
We currently Q each customer at the tower. I am looking at my edge router trying to figure out who is using what Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more efficient way. I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower thanks in advance - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge
What are you trying to add on that you are missing? Can't you just look at the simple queues at each tower to figure out what a customer is using? Are you trying to aggregate them all to make it easier? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: We currently Q each customer at the tower. I am looking at my edge router trying to figure out who is using what Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more efficient way. I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower thanks in advance - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge
If you have a blanket que at each tower you can do a torch and see what Ips are using the most bandwidth. Otherwise, a que for each customer gives you a traffic graph on the mikrotik graphs page (if you have that enabled). That's the easy way to do it. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:21:25 -0600 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge We currently Q each customer at the tower. I am looking at my edge router trying to figure out who is using what Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more efficient way. I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower thanks in advance - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge
#2 Trying to aggregate to make easier. I am trying the simple Q route. have about 2300 in the edge router. CPU is around 20 - 25% Not sure if I am creating another issue somewhere else with the # of Qs in one place - Scott Piehn - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Q's at Edge What are you trying to add on that you are missing? Can't you just look at the simple queues at each tower to figure out what a customer is using? Are you trying to aggregate them all to make it easier? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: We currently Q each customer at the tower. I am looking at my edge router trying to figure out who is using what Should I just create an unlimited simple Q for each IP or is there a more efficient way. I want to still do the actual traffic limiting at the tower thanks in advance - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: [Ticket#2011021966000201] Reference Forum post: DHCP problem after upgrade 5.0rc9-5.0rc10
On Feb 21, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Scott Lambert wrote: On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:23:03AM -0430, Greg Ihnen wrote: Begin forwarded message: Hello, Yes. Ether2 is master port for the switch by default configuration. Cable should be plugged in to Ether2 at 5.0rc10, the particular problem will be fixed in the next RouterOS version. Regards, Sergejs snip Now I've got to talk my 70yo mom or 80yo dad through moving one of the ethernet cables. I can't GoToAssist that one unfortunately. I hate doing tech support for family, it's hard to not get ugly (did I get all the tech common sense in the family?). Or I can wait for RC11. Or, you can set the port which has the ethernet connected as the master and let port ether2 slave off it. I don't believe it matters which port is master or slave. Then reconfigure your DHCP server to listen on the new master port. That would be much easier than doing tech support for family. But, for my parents' router from 10,000 miles away, I'd probably just run a stable version of RouterOS, something like 4.13 or 4.16. Upgradeitis causes pain. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enrls=enq=upgradeitis -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org Scott, Thanks that's a great idea. I did do the long distance tech support with mom. She did good. I sent a picture of the RB750 first and we discussed it before I had her move the cable. It went well. I totally agree about the upgrade thing, but what I've been doing is running the beta here locally and if it works good I put it on my parent's RB750. But yes, I am living dangerously. For the longest time I stayed with the latest stable version of ROS v4. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Calculating Bandwidth Cost
That makes sense... to me... Altho, I'd likely base everything on the 5pm to 11pm prime time... On 2/21/2011 6:06 PM, Matt wrote: Trying to calculate bandwidth costs. 1Mbps / 8 bits = 125,000 bytes a second. 125,000 x 60 x 60 x 24 x 30 = 324GBytes a month. This is just download we are looking at but since that is the majority of traffic and TDD/GPS Sync is often optimized for download we will just look at that and add download and upload on the user since upload likely hurts our AP's worse. Looking at my bandwidth graphs 50 percent of time is sorta off peak so: 324GBytes / 2 = 162GBytes. So say your cost per Meg is $100 $100 / 162 = $0.62 per gigabyte transferred. I realize this is just at your NOC but does this sound realistic? So a Media Streamer doing 200 Gigs a month costs $124in NOC bandwidth alone. Then you have last mile costs. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Calculating Bandwidth Cost
Those calculations assume 100% link utilisation all the time, which is likely far from true. Your actual cost/MB will probably be significantly higher, even at the NOC. -Jonesy On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:06:35 -0600, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to calculate bandwidth costs. 1Mbps / 8 bits = 125,000 bytes a second. 125,000 x 60 x 60 x 24 x 30 = 324GBytes a month. This is just download we are looking at but since that is the majority of traffic and TDD/GPS Sync is often optimized for download we will just look at that and add download and upload on the user since upload likely hurts our AP's worse. Looking at my bandwidth graphs 50 percent of time is sorta off peak so: 324GBytes / 2 = 162GBytes. So say your cost per Meg is $100 $100 / 162 = $0.62 per gigabyte transferred. I realize this is just at your NOC but does this sound realistic? So a Media Streamer doing 200 Gigs a month costs $124in NOC bandwidth alone. Then you have last mile costs. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Calculating Bandwidth Cost
Sorry, I misinterpreted what you wrote, your calculations are for an average utilisation of 50%. That sounds plausible (obviously you have more of an idea about your own traffic profiles than I do!). On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:52:44 +1100, Andrew Jones a...@jonesy.com.au wrote: Those calculations assume 100% link utilisation all the time, which is likely far from true. Your actual cost/MB will probably be significantly higher, even at the NOC. -Jonesy On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:06:35 -0600, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to calculate bandwidth costs. 1Mbps / 8 bits = 125,000 bytes a second. 125,000 x 60 x 60 x 24 x 30 = 324GBytes a month. This is just download we are looking at but since that is the majority of traffic and TDD/GPS Sync is often optimized for download we will just look at that and add download and upload on the user since upload likely hurts our AP's worse. Looking at my bandwidth graphs 50 percent of time is sorta off peak so: 324GBytes / 2 = 162GBytes. So say your cost per Meg is $100 $100 / 162 = $0.62 per gigabyte transferred. I realize this is just at your NOC but does this sound realistic? So a Media Streamer doing 200 Gigs a month costs $124in NOC bandwidth alone. Then you have last mile costs. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
