Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update
With competition where we are our lowest plan is 3meg and goes to 12. I think one other poster was right. It will be a continuous struggle to innovate and change. That is why I'm always looking at where this industry is going. One mistake I think that a lot of wisps make is selling their service to low. I know several close to me that are selling their self short. If built right our service is superior to dsl and Comcast. I don't save people on their Internet service (I do that on their phone). Just my 2 cents. On Tuesday, April 5, 2011, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: For now. I doubt that you will be able to sustain that 90% with 1.5 or 3.0 indefinitely. I know we won't. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update +100%! I've upgraded my network to the point that I cant anymore but 90% of the customers are fine with 1.5 or 3Mbps!On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:The other question is how much do you pay for the service? It all comes down to price. I can deliver 10Mbps x 10Mbps up to 300Mbps x 300Mbps to anyone that wants it... however, most people don't want to pay for it... ;) Travis Microserv On 4/5/2011 5:37 AM, Charles Wu wrote: It's generally known that the 20 Mb burst given by cable companies is throttled to sustained download speeds in the 1-3 Mb range That said, the point I'm trying to make is that the technology has come so far for mobile cellular data that we are now unconsciously comparing it side-by-side to fixed terrestrial broadband technologies (think of it this way, how many WISPs can deliver up-to speeds of 8-10 Mb to a low power handset in the middle of a concrete building 3+ miles away from a tower) -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update I just checked my Charter via Ookla and it said I was getting 20 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up, horse pucky. I only get that in speedtests and never when I have to upload or download a big file via FTP or whatever. It generally gets throttled to dial up speeds or worse. ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update Sitting in my living room at 8 pm3 bars, laptop connected to wireless router on phone http://www.speedtest.net/result/1236758959.png -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 6:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW Yeah, its nice when a product is brand new, and you get the whole sector all to yourself. I guess, its amazing that you are getting the speed to a handset, without the big antenna outside. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wuc...@cticonnect.com To:paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA GeneralListwireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW It is my understanding that Verizon is deploying an FDD version of LTE -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW most of the test are half No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3553 - Release Date: 04/05/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update
What equipment are you running now for AP and CPE? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Jeremie Chism jch...@tritontelephone.comwrote: With competition where we are our lowest plan is 3meg and goes to 12. I think one other poster was right. It will be a continuous struggle to innovate and change. That is why I'm always looking at where this industry is going. One mistake I think that a lot of wisps make is selling their service to low. I know several close to me that are selling their self short. If built right our service is superior to dsl and Comcast. I don't save people on their Internet service (I do that on their phone). Just my 2 cents. On Tuesday, April 5, 2011, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: For now. I doubt that you will be able to sustain that 90% with 1.5 or 3.0 indefinitely. I know we won't. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update +100%! I've upgraded my network to the point that I cant anymore but 90% of the customers are fine with 1.5 or 3Mbps!On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:The other question is how much do you pay for the service? It all comes down to price. I can deliver 10Mbps x 10Mbps up to 300Mbps x 300Mbps to anyone that wants it... however, most people don't want to pay for it... ;) Travis Microserv On 4/5/2011 5:37 AM, Charles Wu wrote: It's generally known that the 20 Mb burst given by cable companies is throttled to sustained download speeds in the 1-3 Mb range That said, the point I'm trying to make is that the technology has come so far for mobile cellular data that we are now unconsciously comparing it side-by-side to fixed terrestrial broadband technologies (think of it this way, how many WISPs can deliver up-to speeds of 8-10 Mb to a low power handset in the middle of a concrete building 3+ miles away from a tower) -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update I just checked my Charter via Ookla and it said I was getting 20 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up, horse pucky. I only get that in speedtests and never when I have to upload or download a big file via FTP or whatever. It generally gets throttled to dial up speeds or worse. ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update Sitting in my living room at 8 pm3 bars, laptop connected to wireless router on phone http://www.speedtest.net/result/1236758959.png -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 6:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW Yeah, its nice when a product is brand new, and you get the whole sector all to yourself. I guess, its amazing that you are getting the speed to a handset, without the big antenna outside. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wuc...@cticonnect.com To:paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA GeneralList wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW It is my understanding that Verizon is deploying an FDD version of LTE -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW most of the test are half No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3553 - Release Date: 04/05/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update
Axxcelera wimax to businesses. Looking at some ubnt for a new area. On Wednesday, April 6, 2011, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: What equipment are you running now for AP and CPE? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Jeremie Chism jch...@tritontelephone.com wrote: With competition where we are our lowest plan is 3meg and goes to 12. I think one other poster was right. It will be a continuous struggle to innovate and change. That is why I'm always looking at where this industry is going. One mistake I think that a lot of wisps make is selling their service to low. I know several close to me that are selling their self short. If built right our service is superior to dsl and Comcast. I don't save people on their Internet service (I do that on their phone). Just my 2 cents. On Tuesday, April 5, 2011, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: For now. I doubt that you will be able to sustain that 90% with 1.5 or 3.0 indefinitely. I know we won't. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update +100%! I've upgraded my network to the point that I cant anymore but 90% of the customers are fine with 1.5 or 3Mbps!On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:The other question is how much do you pay for the service? It all comes down to price. I can deliver 10Mbps x 10Mbps up to 300Mbps x 300Mbps to anyone that wants it... however, most people don't want to pay for it... ;) Travis Microserv On 4/5/2011 5:37 AM, Charles Wu wrote: It's generally known that the 20 Mb burst given by cable companies is throttled to sustained download speeds in the 1-3 Mb range That said, the point I'm trying to make is that the technology has come so far for mobile cellular data that we are now unconsciously comparing it side-by-side to fixed terrestrial broadband technologies (think of it this way, how many WISPs can deliver up-to speeds of 8-10 Mb to a low power handset in the middle of a concrete building 3+ miles away from a tower) -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update I just checked my Charter via Ookla and it said I was getting 20 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up, horse pucky. I only get that in speedtests and never when I have to upload or download a big file via FTP or whatever. It generally gets throttled to dial up speeds or worse. ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update Sitting in my living room at 8 pm3 bars, laptop connected to wireless router on phone http://www.speedtest.net/result/1236758959.png -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 6:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW Yeah, its nice when a product is brand new, and you get the whole sector all to yourself. I guess, its amazing that you are getting the speed to a handset, without th WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update
80ms? Ouch. That must play havoc for TCP. Clearly not business grade. Having a local wireless service with latency worse than a wired USA East to West coast round trip. With that kind of latency, I dont see how a user would get all that good a performance transfer rate in real world application over the Internet, considering average window sizes.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update LTE latency is about 60-100 ms -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update Yes, wimax latencies on d and e systems are documented, im talking about LTE latency Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update Wimax. Not mobile. Mobile has higher latency times. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Wimax or LTE? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update Depending on your cp ratio that will determine latency (atleast on mine). Lower cp ratio gives lower latency numbers. We typically see 20ms. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2011, at 7:53 PM, Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com wrote: On Apr 5, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: That's air rate, actual throughput its about 60%... LTE Latency? IIRC it was in the 100 ms? I can't comment on LTE, but we're doing a trial of mobile WiMAX and seeing about 50-60ms back to the ASN gateway. -- Blake Covarrubias WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
