Re: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch

[Patrick Shoemaker]

Seems like they're $10 each in low quantity, should have a quote in a few 
minutes.

--
Patrick Shoemaker

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 14:32
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch

Are they really only $6-7?

Regards,

Chuck

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Patrick Shoemaker 
mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com>> 
wrote:
Found it:

http://www.sittelletech.com/RPS3000.html

--
Patrick Shoemaker

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 23:46
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch

Someone posted on this or the Motorola list once about a physical switch device 
that installs at customer premises and aids in doing LNP with VoIP. A POTS 
line, the VoIP ATA, and the customer's phone equipment is wired to the switch. 
The switch connects the POTS line to the customer equipment until it gets a 
ring signal from the ATA, then the ATA is automatically connected to the 
customer equipment from that point forward. Makes LNP easier since no 
technician is required on site when the port actually occurs.

Anyone have a link to the manufacturer and a suggestion for a distributor if it 
can't be purchased direct from the manufacturer in low quantities?

--
Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
http://www.vectordatasystems.com




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/


WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/



WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/


WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Wind Safety regulations for towers

[Jerry Richardson]

Yeah, but we've seen YouTube videos of superclimbers running up 3k of tower 
with no safety.

Even with rules and safety guidelines there idiots that will ignore them.

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 11:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wind Safety regulations for towers

Rule of thumb.  If it doesn't feel safe, it probably isn't.

While a 20 Mph wind is easy to work in, that same wind would be very dangerous 
trying to install a 4 foot parabolic dish.

Lightning is right out.


No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3655 - Release Date: 05/23/11



WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch

[Patrick Shoemaker]

$10 from Vetco Supply, http://www.vetcosupply.com

--
Patrick Shoemaker

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 14:32
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch

Are they really only $6-7?

Regards,

Chuck

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Patrick Shoemaker 
mailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com>> 
wrote:
Found it:

http://www.sittelletech.com/RPS3000.html

--
Patrick Shoemaker

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 23:46
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch

Someone posted on this or the Motorola list once about a physical switch device 
that installs at customer premises and aids in doing LNP with VoIP. A POTS 
line, the VoIP ATA, and the customer's phone equipment is wired to the switch. 
The switch connects the POTS line to the customer equipment until it gets a 
ring signal from the ATA, then the ATA is automatically connected to the 
customer equipment from that point forward. Makes LNP easier since no 
technician is required on site when the port actually occurs.

Anyone have a link to the manufacturer and a suggestion for a distributor if it 
can't be purchased direct from the manufacturer in low quantities?

--
Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
http://www.vectordatasystems.com




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/


WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/



WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/


WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Wind Safety regulations for towers

[Marco Coelho]

Rule of thumb.  If it doesn't feel safe, it probably isn't.

While a 20 Mph wind is easy to work in, that same wind would be very
dangerous trying to install a 4 foot parabolic dish.

Lightning is right out.



WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch

[Chuck Hogg]

Are they really only $6-7?

Regards,

Chuck


On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Patrick Shoemaker <
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> wrote:

> Found it:
>
> http://www.sittelletech.com/RPS3000.html
>
> --
> Patrick Shoemaker
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 23:46
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch
>
> Someone posted on this or the Motorola list once about a physical switch
> device that installs at customer premises and aids in doing LNP with VoIP. A
> POTS line, the VoIP ATA, and the customer's phone equipment is wired to the
> switch. The switch connects the POTS line to the customer equipment until it
> gets a ring signal from the ATA, then the ATA is automatically connected to
> the customer equipment from that point forward. Makes LNP easier since no
> technician is required on site when the port actually occurs.
>
> Anyone have a link to the manufacturer and a suggestion for a distributor
> if it can't be purchased direct from the manufacturer in low quantities?
>
> --
> Patrick Shoemaker
> Vector Data Systems LLC
> shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
> office: (301) 358-1690 x36
> http://www.vectordatasystems.com
>
>
>
>
> 
> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
> http://signup.wispa.org/
>
> 
>
> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
>
> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>
> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
>
>
>
> 
> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
> http://signup.wispa.org/
>
> 
>
> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
>
> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>
> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
>



WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Wind Safety regulations for towers

[lakeland]

There are no OSHA regulations.  The safety falls on management and the"  
competent" climber.  In some areas like NYC there are construction  
regulations that corrspond to high wind conditions.


Bob

Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless

-Original message-
From: John McDowell 
To: WISPA General List ,  memb...@wispa.org, 	 
motor...@afmug.com

Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 15:24:26 GMT+00:00
Subject: [WISPA] Wind Safety regulations for towers

Anybody know of any OSHA regulations for the speed of wind and tower  
climbing? Is there a certain wind speed that anything beyond that point is  
not safe? Not allowed to climb in?


Thanks,

John M. McDowell 
Boonlink Communications 
307 Grand Ave NW 
Fort Payne, AL 35967 
256.844.9932 Office
j...@boonlink.com 
www.boonlink.com




This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged.  
Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee),  
you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any  
information contained in the message. If you have received the message in  
error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail j...@boonlink.com, and  
delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing,  
spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your  
computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the  
source, please contact the sender directly.




- 
---

WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/
- 
---


WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Staff Apparel

[RickG]

No matter what quality, the shirt inevitably get ripped & torn from heavy
use such as doing installs and climbing towers. I buy the cheapest shirts so
I can replace them often.

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

>  OK, Lets look at this from a different angle "Durability".
>
> I've never been a fan of brand name, until Ralph Lauren "Polo" brand Polo
> shirts. They might cost two three four times as much, but they last longer
> than any other brand polo style shirt I've ever bought, years compared to
> months. Even high end department store brands are lucky to make it longer
> than 1 or 2 towerclimbs before they look like they are on their last leg,
> with snags. And if the tower doesn't kill it, surely the Coffee Mug spill on
> the drive in will, or the mustard stain from lunch on the run will.
>
> So, how is the quality "durablity" of the shirts, from the online stores
> you members are recommending?
>
> Any hints on the type (specifications) shirt that will last in the field
> for the working man WISP?
>
> With that said... I had gotton some polo shirts made by Anvil which were
> 100% cotton for $8 each, and they seemed just as durable as any other brand
> I bought, (other than RL Polo). (google search for Anvil can find sellers
> of).  I figured if I wasn't going to find top quality, I'd go quantity,
> and at $8 a peice, so what if I had to replace them after a few weeks in the
> field.  (I had my neighbor embroider them who had a busienss doing that.
> ).
>
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Forrest Christian 
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:15 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Staff Apparel
>
> Cabelas evidentally does this also, although I haven't tried it out yet...
> http://corporateoutfitter.cabelas.com
>
> On 5/18/2011 7:03 PM, RickG wrote:
>
> www.queensboro.com
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>
>> Cintas works for us.  Shirts are inepensive and logo is only $4 per
>> shirt and a $50 setup fee.  Shirt prices range from $9-$50.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:03 PM,   wrote:
>> > That is what we do, as well
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> > From: Cameron Crum [mailto:cc...@wispmon.com]
>> > To: WISPA General List [mailto:wireless@wispa.org]
>> > Sent: Wed, 18 May 2011 15:09:31 -0400
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Staff Apparel
>> >
>> > Or go buy all the shirts and take them to an embroidery place. I got a
>> bunch
>> > of the same brand/style in the sizes and colors I needed at Costco and
>> had
>> > one of my customers who had an amazing computer controlled embroidery
>> > machine put our logo on them. They turned out great!
>> >
>> > Cameron
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:05 PM, David E. Smith  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 13:54, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I have found this to be an issue.  All the retail shops want to do a
>> min
>> >>> or 12 like shirts.  Basically I have 4 staff that are everywhere from
>> size
>> >>> small to 4X with me doing different names and different colors and
>> different
>> >>> sizes I doubt that I have more than 2 shirts the same.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> You'll probably have better luck finding a small local outfit to do
>> this,
>> >> precisely because the big companies usually have large minimum orders.
>> >> If you do want to do it all online, try customink.com. Can't vouch for
>> >> their embroidery, but I've ordered hundreds of screen-printed T-shirts
>> >> through them with no problems. Their Web site they have a minimum
>> embroidery
>> >> order of just 6 shirts, and you can mix-and-match.
>> >> David Smith
>> >> MVN.net
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> 
>> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
>> >> http://signup.wispa.org/
>> >>
>> >>
>> 
>> >>
>> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
>> >>
>> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
>> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>> >>
>> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> > WISPA Wants You! Join today!
>> > http://signup.wispa.org/
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
>> >
>> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>> >
>> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
>> http://signup.wispa.org/
>>
>> 
>>
>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless

Re: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch

[Patrick Shoemaker]

Found it:

http://www.sittelletech.com/RPS3000.html

-- 
Patrick Shoemaker

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Patrick Shoemaker
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 23:46
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch

Someone posted on this or the Motorola list once about a physical switch device 
that installs at customer premises and aids in doing LNP with VoIP. A POTS 
line, the VoIP ATA, and the customer's phone equipment is wired to the switch. 
The switch connects the POTS line to the customer equipment until it gets a 
ring signal from the ATA, then the ATA is automatically connected to the 
customer equipment from that point forward. Makes LNP easier since no 
technician is required on site when the port actually occurs.

Anyone have a link to the manufacturer and a suggestion for a distributor if it 
can't be purchased direct from the manufacturer in low quantities?

--
Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
http://www.vectordatasystems.com




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/



WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

[WISPA] Wind Safety regulations for towers

[John McDowell]

Anybody know of any OSHA regulations for the speed of wind and tower climbing? 
Is there a certain wind speed that anything beyond that point is not safe? Not 
allowed to climb in?

Thanks,

John M. McDowell 
Boonlink Communications 
307 Grand Ave NW 
Fort Payne, AL 35967 
256.844.9932 Office
j...@boonlink.com 
www.boonlink.com



This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. 
Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you 
may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any 
information contained in the message. If you have received the message in 
error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail j...@boonlink.com, and delete 
the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, 
and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are 
concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact 
the sender directly.




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

[WISPA] VoIP LNP line switch

[Patrick Shoemaker]

Someone posted on this or the Motorola list once about a physical switch 
device that installs at customer premises and aids in doing LNP with 
VoIP. A POTS line, the VoIP ATA, and the customer's phone equipment is 
wired to the switch. The switch connects the POTS line to the customer 
equipment until it gets a ring signal from the ATA, then the ATA is 
automatically connected to the customer equipment from that point 
forward. Makes LNP easier since no technician is required on site when 
the port actually occurs.

Anyone have a link to the manufacturer and a suggestion for a 
distributor if it can't be purchased direct from the manufacturer in low 
quantities?

-- 
Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
http://www.vectordatasystems.com




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] 2.4GHz 802.11n hardware that will do 40MHz and 20MHzchannels simultaneously?

[Tom DeReggi]

I had started using UBNT instead of Mikrotik for my MIMO installs because 
for me, the UBNT gear seemed to work more consistently with less agrevation 
in noisy environments.

However... Mikrotik appears to do a better job following 802.11n 
specification. It handles 40Mhz to 20Mhz coexistence properly.
If you set the MT AP to 40Mhz, and set the CPE to 20Mhz, it will connect at 
20Mhz.
Basically, the MT AP will try 40Mhz first, and when it doesn't function it 
drops to the primary 20Mhz channel for the CPE.
It sets the first 20Mhz as the constant base channel. And then MT has a 
configuration to state whether the second 20Mhz portion will be above or 
below the primary base. This is useful because you can set the primary base 
20Mhz channel to be the channel that is most reliable, to guarantee the base 
channel is as reliable as possible, and still have the ability to select 
above or below it for the next best.

With this said... I can not comment on interoperabilty with non-Mikrotik 
gear, nor can I comment on how well the adaptation between 40 and 20 will 
occur regarding quality, latency or effect on TCP for the traffic passing..

When using Mikrotik I usually recommend restricting the number of Mode 
possibilities, so that only the modes that work well are available. Other 
wise the radios spend to much time trying the many variations of modes that 
might not work well. For example, when interference occurs, does it drop a 
chain (polarity) or downshift to 20Mhz?

Also you'll notice in Mikrotik that you select both the rates it supports 
and advertises that it supports. This might help with interoperability.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Ihnen" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 6:22 AM
Subject: [WISPA] 2.4GHz 802.11n hardware that will do 40MHz and 
20MHzchannels simultaneously?


>I asked this on the UBNT forum but received no answer.
>
> The 802.11n specification states that when an AP is set to 40MHz channels 
> it should allow older gear that's only capable of 20MHz channels to 
> connect in that mode as well.
>
> With 2.4GHz UBNT gear I'm finding that if the AP is set to 40MHz then 
> that's all it will allow clients to connect at - clients that are not 
> capable of 40MHz channels just don't connect. Apple gear and some others 
> won't do 40MHz in the 2.4GHz band.
>
> Does anyone know if there's any cards that could be used the MT 
> routerboards that could do both 40MHz and 20MHz channels simultaneously?
>
> Thanks!
> Greg
>
>
> 
> WISPA Wants You! Join today!
> http://signup.wispa.org/
> 
>
> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
>
> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>
> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ 




WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/

 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/