[WISPA] Special Offer from FISPA
Hi All, FISPA is running their show right after Wispalooza and they would like to be of value to attendees at our show. I know many attendees are staying over, either to play or to attend some of the vendor programs. If you are interested, here is what they are offering: 1. Attend FISPA Wednesday activities for FREE (best benefit being the reception) http://fispalive.com/ 2. Attend any of the Thursday and Friday sessions for $49 http://fispalive.com/ This is open to Wispalooza attendees only. FISPA is more geared to the CLEC market and voice services, but I'm sure there are some subjects that will interest many WISPs, particularly those that are looking to those as options in the future. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick Sales Manager, ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) +1 574-935-8488 (Fax) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
None will do true full duplex. Any of the M series should do it over 40 MHz channel size. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/23/2011 12:04 PM, Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe wrote: Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
Duplex != full duplex Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: None will do true full duplex. Any of the M series should do it over 40 MHz channel size. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/23/2011 12:04 PM, Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe wrote: Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm. www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3914 - Release Date: 09/23/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
I will say that to get ubnt to perform optimally you have to figure out the right firmware and settings for your particular situation. I have seen real world results much higher than in this test. But if you pull it out of the box, connect it, and select airmax on, airmax off I see where they got these numbers. I tried several different firmwares and multiple configurations before I saw what I see now. Also bear in mind that the N radios operate best with multiple streams running concurrently. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm. www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3914 - Release Date: 09/23/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
Are the ubnt systems DS or FH? Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice - Original Message - I will say that to get ubnt to perform optimally you have to figure out the right firmware and settings for your particular situation. I have seen real world results much higher than in this test. But if you pull it out of the box, connect it, and select airmax on, airmax off I see where they got these numbers. I tried several different firmwares and multiple configurations before I saw what I see now. Also bear in mind that the N radios operate best with multiple streams running concurrently. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm. www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3914 - Release Date: 09/23/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
So which configuration gave the most bang for your buck? Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice - Original Message - I will say that to get ubnt to perform optimally you have to figure out the right firmware and settings for your particular situation. I have seen real world results much higher than in this test. But if you pull it out of the box, connect it, and select airmax on, airmax off I see where they got these numbers. I tried several different firmwares and multiple configurations before I saw what I see now. Also bear in mind that the N radios operate best with multiple streams running concurrently. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm. www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3914 - Release Date: 09/23/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
I know this is bogus. I ran Motorola and it was the worst system I had ever deployed. I thought I was doing great, until I started runnng AirSpan and Alvarion. It wasn't long I was on the phone selling *all* my motorola to my competitors. Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice - Original Message - Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm. www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3914 - Release Date: 09/23/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
Originally it was 5.2.1 but 5.3.3 works great with fixed ack timing. Trust me, the settings can take you from getting what this test shows or lower up to within a Meg or two of advertised rates. And considering one of my links is 22 miles I would much rather have the performance that I get at the price I got than the motorola. But I'm sure there will be some here that laugh at that. My network consists of wimax that is 4k per sector down to ubnt at several hundred dollars. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Robert Canary rwcan...@mchn39.ocdirect.net wrote: So which configuration gave the most bang for your buck? Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice - Original Message - I will say that to get ubnt to perform optimally you have to figure out the right firmware and settings for your particular situation. I have seen real world results much higher than in this test. But if you pull it out of the box, connect it, and select airmax on, airmax off I see where they got these numbers. I tried several different firmwares and multiple configurations before I saw what I see now. Also bear in mind that the N radios operate best with multiple streams running concurrently. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm. www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3914 - Release Date: 09/23/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
I have also had alvarion. It's built like a brick s house. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Robert Canary rwcan...@mchn39.ocdirect.net wrote: I know this is bogus. I ran Motorola and it was the worst system I had ever deployed. I thought I was doing great, until I started runnng AirSpan and Alvarion. It wasn't long I was on the phone selling *all* my motorola to my competitors. Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice - Original Message - Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm. www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3914 - Release Date: 09/23/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
I'm not knocking motorola. It has it's place. (god knows I loved my startac:) but for the money ubnt makes Norte sense. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Robert Canary rwcan...@mchn39.ocdirect.net wrote: I know this is bogus. I ran Motorola and it was the worst system I had ever deployed. I thought I was doing great, until I started runnng AirSpan and Alvarion. It wasn't long I was on the phone selling *all* my motorola to my competitors. Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice - Original Message - Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm. www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3914 - Release Date: 09/23/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
There are other considerations besides cost. It's important to consider total cost of ownership. What devices cost you the least to put up? How does that square up with longevity? What causes the fewest repeat truck rolls and gives the greatest customer experience? How does it scale across a large network? Thanks, Chris Cooper On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:30 PM, jch...@tritontelephone.com wrote: I'm not knocking motorola. It has it's place. (god knows I loved my startac:) but for the money ubnt makes Norte sense. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Robert Canary rwcan...@mchn39.ocdirect.net wrote: I know this is bogus. I ran Motorola and it was the worst system I had ever deployed. I thought I was doing great, until I started runnng AirSpan and Alvarion. It wasn't long I was on the phone selling *all* my motorola to my competitors. Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice - Original Message - Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm. www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3914 - Release Date: 09/23/11 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
True. However, one buys the better longer-lasting gear, at a significant price increase. And within the 2 years {just as they get it all paid for}, the demand changes, the new systems work faster, and you end up spending all your business putting money into the manufactures and retailer's pockets. I have been doing this for 12 years. Trust me . spend your big bucks on the backhaul systems and internal infrastructure. Go absolutely as cheap as you can for access points and CPE. In another 10 years it will not matter anyway. *Everything* will be done through you're cell phone. Blue tooth to your laptop and to the internet you go @ 4Meg speeds. Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice - Original Message - There are other considerations besides cost. It's important to consider total cost of ownership. What devices cost you the least to put up? How does that square up with longevity? What causes the fewest repeat truck rolls and gives the greatest customer experience? How does it scale across a large network? Thanks, Chris Cooper On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:30 PM, jch...@tritontelephone.com wrote: I'm not knocking motorola. It has it's place. (god knows I loved my startac:) but for the money ubnt makes Norte sense. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Robert Canary rwcan...@mchn39.ocdirect.net wrote: I know this is bogus. I ran Motorola and it was the worst system I had ever deployed. I thought I was doing great, until I started runnng AirSpan and Alvarion. It wasn't long I was on the phone selling *all* my motorola to my competitors. Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice - Original Message - Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm. www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3914 - Release Date: 09/23/11 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
Longevity... I got some 7 year old CB3s for sale, just pulled working from my network ;) You are right, there are lots of considerations. Depending on your market cost really is a make or break for some folks. In the residential world with competition you are not going to put up Motorola or Alvarion and make money. In the high ARPU commercial world you would probably want to use Motorola or Alvarion. On 9/23/11 3:44 PM, Chris Cooper wrote: There are other considerations besides cost. It's important to consider total cost of ownership. What devices cost you the least to put up? How does that square up with longevity? What causes the fewest repeat truck rolls and gives the greatest customer experience? How does it scale across a large network? Thanks, Chris Cooper On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:30 PM, jch...@tritontelephone.com wrote: I'm not knocking motorola. It has it's place. (god knows I loved my startac:) but for the money ubnt makes Norte sense. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Robert Canaryrwcan...@mchn39.ocdirect.net wrote: I know this is bogus. I ran Motorola and it was the worst system I had ever deployed. I thought I was doing great, until I started runnng AirSpan and Alvarion. It wasn't long I was on the phone selling *all* my motorola to my competitors. Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice - Original Message - Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm. www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3914 - Release Date: 09/23/11 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
Ive had alvarion die at 4 months and ubnt still going after 1.5 years. It's a crap shoot. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Longevity... I got some 7 year old CB3s for sale, just pulled working from my network ;) You are right, there are lots of considerations. Depending on your market cost really is a make or break for some folks. In the residential world with competition you are not going to put up Motorola or Alvarion and make money. In the high ARPU commercial world you would probably want to use Motorola or Alvarion. On 9/23/11 3:44 PM, Chris Cooper wrote: There are other considerations besides cost. It's important to consider total cost of ownership. What devices cost you the least to put up? How does that square up with longevity? What causes the fewest repeat truck rolls and gives the greatest customer experience? How does it scale across a large network? Thanks, Chris Cooper On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:30 PM, jch...@tritontelephone.com wrote: I'm not knocking motorola. It has it's place. (god knows I loved my startac:) but for the money ubnt makes Norte sense. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Robert Canaryrwcan...@mchn39.ocdirect.net wrote: I know this is bogus. I ran Motorola and it was the worst system I had ever deployed. I thought I was doing great, until I started runnng AirSpan and Alvarion. It wasn't long I was on the phone selling *all* my motorola to my competitors. Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice - Original Message - Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm. www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3914 - Release Date: 09/23/11 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
Mobile wireless systems cannot deliver the speeds and network performance that is needed to take full advantage of broadband.Smartphones and mobile wireless networks have their places, but they are not, and will never be, a substitute for a fixed wireless or wireline broadband system. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 9/23/2011 3:25 PM, Robert Canary wrote: True. However, one buys the better longer-lasting gear, at a significant price increase. And within the 2 years {just as they get it all paid for}, the demand changes, the new systems work faster, and you end up spending all your business putting money into the manufactures and retailer's pockets. I have been doing this for 12 years. Trust me . spend your big bucks on the backhaul systems and internal infrastructure. Go absolutely as cheap as you can for access points and CPE. In another 10 years it will not matter anyway. *Everything* will be done through you're cell phone. Blue tooth to your laptop and to the internet you go @ 4Meg speeds. Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice - Original Message - There are other considerations besides cost. It's important to consider total cost of ownership. What devices cost you the least to put up? How does that square up with longevity? What causes the fewest repeat truck rolls and gives the greatest customer experience? How does it scale across a large network? Thanks, Chris Cooper On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:30 PM, jch...@tritontelephone.com wrote: I'm not knocking motorola. It has it's place. (god knows I loved my startac:) but for the money ubnt makes Norte sense. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Robert Canary rwcan...@mchn39.ocdirect.net wrote: I know this is bogus. I ran Motorola and it was the worst system I had ever deployed. I thought I was doing great, until I started runnng AirSpan and Alvarion. It wasn't long I was on the phone selling *all* my motorola to my competitors. Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice - Original Message - Here is a radio comparison test done at the last animal farm. www.linktechs.net/AF2011_Bakeoff.pdf Jim -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Which UBNT 2.4 or 5.7 radios will do 45MB duplex over two miles. Thanks Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe AS Technologies Ltd Tel. 234(0)8023258027 --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3914 - Release Date: 09/23/11 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
+100! Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:53:05 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT
+1 Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2011, at 6:02 PM, j284...@yahoo.com wrote: +100! Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:53:05 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/