Re: [WISPA] VoIP CALEA Question
*A* solution would be to simply not do RTP redirect. Not the best solution, but it is one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 3/1/2012 6:20 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: We are considering doing some limited VoIP offerings to supplement our GSM offerings in certain situations. A question that just arose, and I don't know the answer to is: * Understanding that an interconnected VoIP carrier must be CALEA compliant and be able to record calls. ** How does this situation work if the audio stream does not pass through your soft-switch? (e.g. end user makes a call, my soft switch sets up the call between end-user and Level3, and then a re-invite happens which sends the audio from the end-user direct to the Level3 switch) How am I suppose to be able to record that call? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] FS....
Ubiquiti M5 Nanobridge qty 5 NIB Also have about 8 M5 Nanobridges and 8 M2 Nanobridges that have been opened and programmed but not deployed. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] FS....
How much? Email me prices zma...@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote: Ubiquiti M5 Nanobridge qty 5 NIB Also have about 8 M5 Nanobridges and 8 M2 Nanobridges that have been opened and programmed but not deployed. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] FS
Hello I have a Rocket M365 and M900 New in the box for sale. thanks Brandon ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] FS
How much? Forbes On 3/2/2012 8:47 AM, brandon jolley wrote: Hello I have a Rocket M365 and M900 New in the box for sale. thanks Brandon ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4846 - Release Date: 03/02/12 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] FS
Hi 365-$170 900-$160 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote: How much? Forbes On 3/2/2012 8:47 AM, brandon jolley wrote: Hello I have a Rocket M365 and M900 New in the box for sale. thanks Brandon ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4846 - Release Date: 03/02/12 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] FS
While I appreciate that you don't want to lose money I can buy those for that price from my local dealer, I don't need them immediately so I'll pass. Thanks, Forbes On 3/2/2012 9:03 AM, brandon jolley wrote: Hi 365-$170 900-$160 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: How much? Forbes On 3/2/2012 8:47 AM, brandon jolley wrote: Hello I have a Rocket M365 and M900 New in the box for sale. thanks Brandon ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4846 - Release Date: 03/02/12 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4846 - Release Date: 03/02/12 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Be In The KNOW - Come See How We're Saving Your Business at ISP America
TO OUR MEMBERS AND THOSE WHO SHOULD BE, As I pack my bags for another trip to Washington DC from far away Washington State I wanted to remind members of what WISPA does for you. I will be meeting with the offices of two Senators, a Congressman, the NTIA Chief of Staff, FCC's Mapping Chief, the author of the 50 Billion Unlicensed Study and more next week. Based on the results we've had in the past with making sure Unlicensed stays a part of the National debate in the Spectrum Legislation just passed, and inclusion in everything from USF to helping fellow WISP's during disasters there is no organization representing your future better than WISPA. Attending our Trade Shows gives us the financial ability to have a constant and powerful voice in Washington D.C.. Politicians, regulators, and the big Corporate bullies would like nothing better than to micro-manage and restrict your ability to make money and have fair rules to work with. Additionally the trade shows is where we can let you know, and have direct contact with those who are setting the direction of this industry on your behalf. We always need that feedback to make sure we truly represent and gain your ideas of how we can make the life of WISP's and our Vendors easier to do business. The time to get reasonable air fares is getting tight so I ask that you sign up for ISP America at http://www.wispa.org/ispamerica-2012 and make your flight or other reservations today. Don't forget to attend my Regulatory Creep session and the many other great sessions in every aspect of Wireless. The value you will get from our show will educate both you and us as how we can be a force to continue our mission of introducing progressive technology to the American public, plus make a damn fine living at it! I hope to see you in Florida, have a great weekend! Thank you, Forbes Mercy WISPA VP/Legislative Chair ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [Caleaquestions] VoIP CALEA Question
Marlon: VoIP service providers have different compliance requirements when compared to access providers. The WISPA CALEA standard ONLY addresses access providers as I have already explained, and Michael has also confirmed. We didn't write the Act, we just have to read it (which I highly recommend), and comply with it. jc On 3/1/2012 9:26 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote: But VoIP IS data LEA is just after the data. They don't care who gives it to them when they are trying to track down a bad guy. You remember the conversations we had with the FBI. Without a standard in place you (the operator of the network) have to do everything you reasonably can to comply with their requests. If you are a VoIP provider but the VoIP doesn't ride your network you can't track it. Just like you couldn't track a ptp file sharing application *IF* neither end of the transaction rides your network. But, *IF* either end of the transaction rides your network you can and will have to intercept the conversation and send a copy to LEA. Why is VoIP any different? It's just a voice conversation instead of a kiddie porn video. Both have an audio component, both are data at the network level. I'm not saying you are wrong here. But if I were the LEA I'd not care, I just need the data. marlon - Original Message - From: J.C. Utter j...@imagestream.com To: Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) o...@odessaoffice.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; caleaquesti...@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Caleaquestions] [WISPA] VoIP CALEA Question I agree with your first sentence, Marlon, but your second comment seems unclear because everyone hands off traffic. The main difference between 3rd party and in-house VoIP is that you have a different set of rules to follow for CALEA compliance specifically for voice service providers that includes the requirement to provide call records to the LEA (called number, start call, end call, call duration, etc.). There are other differences, but this is the main difference. The WISPA CALEA Standard does not apply to VoIP intercepts when VoIP is hosted in-house. The IPNA standard is specifically for Network Access providers (the NA in IPNA) and not for Voice Service Providers. We should have a standard for wireless VoIP providers, because a lot of WISPs offer VoIP today compared to the time when we started writing the first WISPA CALEA standard. jc On 3/1/2012 11:20 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote: You can only record what hits your network. If it's handed off to someone else they'll have to record it. marlon - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppesmhop...@indigowireless.com To:fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP CALEA Question I'm obviously not asking the question properly. I know how to do a CALEA capture for regular IP traffic. My question is related to VoIP traffic in particular. (e.g. Yes, if a customer has Vonage I obviously can't record the call... but I can capture the packets). However, my understanding was always that if you provided VoIP from your network you had to be able to record both legs of the call so that the LEA can determine, for example, which side of the call a noise was heard on. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 3/1/12 9:38 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Do a google search on Mikrotik CALEA, take a look at The Mikrotik WIki as well as Butch's CALEA (MUM 2007) presentation. This will give you an excellent idea on how to accomplish what you are asking for . Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy InternetTelecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 3/1/2012 7:20 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: We are considering doing some limited VoIP offerings to supplement our GSM offerings in certain situations. A question that just arose, and I don't know the answer to is: * Understanding that an interconnected VoIP carrier must be CALEA compliant and be able to record calls. ** How does this situation work if the audio stream does not pass through your soft-switch? (e.g. end user makes a call, my soft switch sets up the call between end-user and Level3, and then a re-invite happens which sends the audio from the end-user direct to the Level3 switch) How am I suppose to be able to record that call? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] FS....
I'd be interested in these, how much do you want? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sara Gray Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 8:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] FS Ubiquiti M5 Nanobridge qty 5 NIB Also have about 8 M5 Nanobridges and 8 M2 Nanobridges that have been opened and programmed but not deployed. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] VoIP CALEA Question
Matt: Given traffic that is not originated or terminated by your soft switch, intercept orders for that traffic is only subject to the requirements for network access providers that do not provide VoIP services. However, traffic that is originated or terminated by your soft switch would be subject to additional reporting requirements including call record details. jc On 3/1/2012 6:20 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: We are considering doing some limited VoIP offerings to supplement our GSM offerings in certain situations. A question that just arose, and I don't know the answer to is: * Understanding that an interconnected VoIP carrier must be CALEA compliant and be able to record calls. ** How does this situation work if the audio stream does not pass through your soft-switch? (e.g. end user makes a call, my soft switch sets up the call between end-user and Level3, and then a re-invite happens which sends the audio from the end-user direct to the Level3 switch) How am I suppose to be able to record that call? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] FS....
M2's are already gone M5's: NIB $90 open $85 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 12:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FS I'd be interested in these, how much do you want? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sara Gray Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 8:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] FS Ubiquiti M5 Nanobridge qty 5 NIB Also have about 8 M5 Nanobridges and 8 M2 Nanobridges that have been opened and programmed but not deployed. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Fleet Vehicles for Sale
Hello All, Anyone interested in buying bucket trucks please let me know. We are selling a 1997 and 1999 bucket trucks with hydraulic lifts. Also selling 2003 Chevy Avalanche and 2004 Special edition Envoy. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Fleet Vehicles for Sale
Pictures? What's the 2003 Avalanche look like? Utility bed? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Don Marino d...@greataukwireless.com wrote: Hello All, Anyone interested in buying bucket trucks please let me know. We are selling a 1997 and 1999 bucket trucks with hydraulic lifts. Also selling 2003 Chevy Avalanche and 2004 Special edition Envoy. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Fleet Vehicles for Sale
I need way less cab and way more bed =( Thanks for posting, hopefully someone else needs one of these. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Don Marino d...@greataukwireless.com wrote: No problem Josh. Here is a picture for you to take a look at. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Pictures? What's the 2003 Avalanche look like? Utility bed? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Don Marino d...@greataukwireless.com wrote: Hello All, Anyone interested in buying bucket trucks please let me know. We are selling a 1997 and 1999 bucket trucks with hydraulic lifts. Also selling 2003 Chevy Avalanche and 2004 Special edition Envoy. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Fleet Vehicles for Sale
okay. thanks anyway. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I need way less cab and way more bed =( Thanks for posting, hopefully someone else needs one of these. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Don Marino d...@greataukwireless.com wrote: No problem Josh. Here is a picture for you to take a look at. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Pictures? What's the 2003 Avalanche look like? Utility bed? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Don Marino d...@greataukwireless.com wrote: Hello All, Anyone interested in buying bucket trucks please let me know. We are selling a 1997 and 1999 bucket trucks with hydraulic lifts. Also selling 2003 Chevy Avalanche and 2004 Special edition Envoy. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Fleet Vehicles
Hello all again, Unfortunately I am going to have to take back my offer on the vehicles we are selling. Please disregard the offer. I have just been informed that these vehicles have prior engagements. Sorry for the inconvenience. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Fleet Vehicles
Put that in the original thread, please =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Don Marino d...@greataukwireless.com wrote: Hello all again, Unfortunately I am going to have to take back my offer on the vehicles we are selling. Please disregard the offer. I have just been informed that these vehicles have prior engagements. Sorry for the inconvenience. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Fleet Vehicles for Sale
The avalanches can have a long bed and less cab. The back seat becomes more cab...that was the whole idea of the truck. Cameron On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Don Marino d...@greataukwireless.com wrote: okay. thanks anyway. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I need way less cab and way more bed =( Thanks for posting, hopefully someone else needs one of these. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Don Marino d...@greataukwireless.com wrote: No problem Josh. Here is a picture for you to take a look at. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Pictures? What's the 2003 Avalanche look like? Utility bed? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Don Marino d...@greataukwireless.com wrote: Hello All, Anyone interested in buying bucket trucks please let me know. We are selling a 1997 and 1999 bucket trucks with hydraulic lifts. Also selling 2003 Chevy Avalanche and 2004 Special edition Envoy. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
