[WISPA] List Traffic
Is this list dead? I haven't received an email since 6/18. Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
Working? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.comwrote: Is this list dead? I haven’t received an email since 6/18. ** ** Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
Yes From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic Working? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.commailto:ecrog...@precisionds.com wrote: Is this list dead? I haven't received an email since 6/18. Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
3 yesterday a bunch the day before. On 6/29/2012 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers wrote: Is this list dead? I haven't received an email since 6/18. Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5100 - Release Date: 06/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
Working Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe +234(0)8023258027 -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:49:11 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
Then there is an issue These are the first emails I got on this list in 2 weeks as well. What was the subjects of yesterday. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic 3 yesterday a bunch the day before. On 6/29/2012 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers wrote: Is this list dead? I haven't received an email since 6/18. Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5100 - Release Date: 06/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.nethttp://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
List emails have been coming through here every day. Al - At 03:06 PM 6/29/2012 +, Steve Barnes wrote: --- Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_000_55B821E4E4EA3944B48AE6F7A054C888282D51E5MBX244domainloc_ Then there is an issue These are the first emails I got on this list in 2 weeks as well. What was the subjects of yesterday. Steve Barnes General Manager http://www.rcwifi.com/PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic 3 yesterday a bunch the day before. On 6/29/2012 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers wrote: Is this list dead? I haven't received an email since 6/18. Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- END QUOTE - ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
Check the subjects. I got 3 yesterday on the [Wisp] list but haven't had anything from [WISPA] for a while either (looks like 6/15). I have them both forwarded to the same folder though so when I just glanced at it quickly it looked like there were 3 emails yesterday. James Howard LiteWire Internet Services, Inc. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic Then there is an issue These are the first emails I got on this list in 2 weeks as well. What was the subjects of yesterday. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic 3 yesterday a bunch the day before. On 6/29/2012 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers wrote: Is this list dead? I haven't received an email since 6/18. Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5100 - Release Date: 06/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.nethttp://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 Total Control Panel Loginhttps://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orghttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=735421181domain=litewire.net Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.net this sender / Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.net this sender enterprise-wide Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.net wispa.org / Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.net wispa.org enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
No traffic since June 19 for me, specifically wireless@wispa.org Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM, James Howard ja...@litewire.net wrote: Check the subjects. I got 3 yesterday on the [Wisp] list but haven’t had anything from [WISPA] for a while either (looks like 6/15). I have them both forwarded to the same folder though so when I just glanced at it quickly it looked like there were 3 emails yesterday. ** ** ** ** James Howard LiteWire Internet Services, Inc. ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2012 10:07 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] List Traffic ** ** Then there is an issue These are the first emails I got on this list in 2 weeks as well. What was the subjects of yesterday. ** ** Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ ** ** *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Reed *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2012 10:54 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] List Traffic ** ** 3 yesterday a bunch the day before. On 6/29/2012 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers wrote: Is this list dead? I haven’t received an email since 6/18. Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5100 - Release Date: 06/29/12* *** ** ** -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration ** ** ** ** Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 -- *Total Control Panel* Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orghttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=735421181domain=litewire.net Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.netthis sender / Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.netthis sender enterprise-wide Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.net wispa.org / Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.net wispa.org enterprise-wide *This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level.* ** ** ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
Agreed I have an email of 6/15 from Gino on High Bandwidth 900 MHz/1900 Mhz. That was the last I received. I did get 3 yesterday on the WISP list. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:24 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic Check the subjects. I got 3 yesterday on the [Wisp] list but haven't had anything from [WISPA] for a while either (looks like 6/15). I have them both forwarded to the same folder though so when I just glanced at it quickly it looked like there were 3 emails yesterday. James Howard LiteWire Internet Services, Inc. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic Then there is an issue These are the first emails I got on this list in 2 weeks as well. What was the subjects of yesterday. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic 3 yesterday a bunch the day before. On 6/29/2012 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers wrote: Is this list dead? I haven't received an email since 6/18. Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5100 - Release Date: 06/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.nethttp://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 Total Control Panel Loginhttps://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orghttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=735421181domain=litewire.net Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.net this sender / Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.net this sender enterprise-wide Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.net wispa.org / Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.net wispa.org enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
I guess the filtering system was working good until you guys found out! LOL! On 6/29/2012 11:16 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: No traffic since June 19 for me, specifically wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM, James Howard ja...@litewire.net mailto:ja...@litewire.net wrote: Check the subjects. I got 3 yesterday on the [Wisp] list but haven't had anything from [WISPA] for a while either (looks like 6/15). I have them both forwarded to the same folder though so when I just glanced at it quickly it looked like there were 3 emails yesterday. James Howard LiteWire Internet Services, Inc. *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2012 10:07 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] List Traffic Then there is an issue These are the first emails I got on this list in 2 weeks as well. What was the subjects of yesterday. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Reed *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2012 10:54 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] List Traffic 3 yesterday a bunch the day before. On 6/29/2012 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers wrote: Is this list dead? I haven't received an email since 6/18. Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5100 - Release Date: 06/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 tel:%28765%29%20855-1060 (765) 439-4253 tel:%28765%29%20439-4253 (855) 231-6239 tel:%28855%29%20231-6239 *Total Control Panel* Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=735421181domain=litewire.net Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.net this sender / Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.net this sender enterprise-wide Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.net wispa.org http://wispa.org / Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=735421181domain=litewire.net wispa.org http://wispa.org enterprise-wide /This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level./ ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
Oops, wrong list in my folder. I haven't seen anything either. On 6/29/2012 11:06 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: Then there is an issue These are the first emails I got on this list in 2 weeks as well. What was the subjects of yesterday. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Reed *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2012 10:54 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] List Traffic 3 yesterday a bunch the day before. On 6/29/2012 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers wrote: Is this list dead? I haven't received an email since 6/18. Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5100 - Release Date: 06/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5100 - Release Date: 06/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
I believe list traffic on the general list which is publicly available to anyone (members or not) has been dropping significantly over time as more and more of the traffic has moved to the members only list servers within WISPA. Scriv On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.comwrote: Is this list dead? I haven’t received an email since 6/18. ** ** Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
If you click on the link at the bottom of each list email, it will take you to the wireless list info page. There is a link on that page to the List archives, which are public on this particular list. A quick check of the archives as well as confirming my email archives, shows the last post was by Jack Unger on June 19th. Go to the page below and sort by date. http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/2012-June/date.html#start http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way Where there is a Wisp, there is a way! Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick) From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic I believe list traffic on the general list which is publicly available to anyone (members or not) has been dropping significantly over time as more and more of the traffic has moved to the members only list servers within WISPA. Scriv On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com wrote: Is this list dead? I haven’t received an email since 6/18. Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
At 07:45 AM 6/29/2012, you wrote: Is this list dead? I haven't received an email since 6/18. Until your message arrived, I've seen nothing since the 19th. Rk ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
Rick, we have been avoiding you chuckling ---Original Message--- From: Rick Kunze Date: 6/29/2012 2:26:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic At 07:45 AM 6/29/2012, you wrote: Is this list dead? I haven't received an email since 6/18. Until your message arrived, I've seen nothing since the 19th. Rk ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessinline: winking.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Happy Independence Day!
Dear Members, It is amazing to be a small business enterprise and be the captain of your own ship. I can personally state that sometimes this independence does not always have smooth sailing and maybe we question our judgment. But it clearly takes a certain individual or company to become a WISP. This is not an 'easy' industry. Never the less, as the captains of our own ships, this industry clearly has the drive and like mindedness to succeed. In my years in this industry, it is clear that some fail, as well as some become a sterling example of what I consider my industry is primarily made of, girt, fortitude, honesty, common sense, gumption, imaginativeness (check it out, it is a word =), resourcefulness ... oh well, you get the picture =) With that said, I have to make my comment. It is one as an individual and not necessarily representing the views of the board of directors. The Century Link FCC filing is a direct attack on our industry and what our, sometimes small, enterprises stand for. The Century Link filing, in my opinion and it has been mentioned, a clear sign of weakness on their part and shows their dependency on .gov subsidies. In this aspect is a victory for WISPA! Yet it is slanderous document that WISPA and the individuals accused must refute. As an elected member of the WISPA board of directors, I can assure you that the board is addressing these issues and considers this a priority. I am leaving you with this ... because I am a geek, it is a Marine thing, it is a favorite, and in this situation it is TOTALLY appropriate! http://youtu.be/l31UUl5SyXk Enjoy your Independence Day weekend, be proud of who you are, and don't catch anything on fire! =)) Respectfully, Victoria Proffer STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/ 314-720-1000 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Happy Independence Day!
At 6/29/2012 08:45 PM, Victoria Proffer wrote: ... In my years in this industry, it is clear that some fail, as well as some become a sterling example of what I consider my industry is primarily made of, girt, fortitude, honesty, common sense, gumption, imaginativeness (check it out, it is a word =), resourcefulness ... oh well, you get the picture =) With that said, I have to make my comment. It is one as an individual and not necessarily representing the views of the board of directors. The Century Link FCC filing is a direct attack on our industry and what our, sometimes small, enterprises stand for. The Century Link filing, in my opinion and it has been mentioned, a clear sign of weakness on their part and shows their dependency on .gov subsidies. In this aspect is a victory for WISPA! Yet it is slanderous document that WISPA and the individuals accused must refute. As an elected member of the WISPA board of directors, I can assure you that the board is addressing these issues and considers this a priority. For those who may have missed it, the petition is here: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7021978603 Century Telephone Enterprises, by whatever name it's using, has always been the worst of the worst. My nickname for them is The Devil Incarnate. These are the folks who, facing a modem pool owned by a tiny carrier during the dial-up years, simply refused to pass calls to that carrier as local, even though the rate center was local. Utterly sleazy. Their petition is indeed slanderous, basically claiming that WISPs can't offer as good a service as they can, and demanding that the FCC treat all WISPs like satellite providers. This would let CenturyLink take Phase I CAF funding of $775/subscriber to overbuild WISPs. To show how ridiculous this is, just turn it around. What could you, as a WISP, do with a gift of $775 in capital per subscriber? Yeah, a lot more than they can. That's a lot of money to a WISP, but bupkis to a subsidy whore like Century. I look forward to the Board's response, and if the Petition is open to Comment from others, it deserves a serious blasting. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Happy Independence Day!
For those who may have missed it, the petition is here: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7021978603 I am sorry if I don't get this right Fred, but I don't believe this is the petition, rather than it is the complaint. Is that correct? And let me state on a side note ... your interjections in WISPA business, in my opinion, is extremely valued! There have been several times that you have broken a complex problem down to common sense. Thank you. Victoria Proffer http://www.stlwimax.com/ STLWiMAX, LLC 314-720-1000 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Happy Independence Day! At 6/29/2012 08:45 PM, Victoria Proffer wrote: ... In my years in this industry, it is clear that some fail, as well as some become a sterling example of what I consider my industry is primarily made of, girt, fortitude, honesty, common sense, gumption, imaginativeness (check it out, it is a word =), resourcefulness ... oh well, you get the picture =) With that said, I have to make my comment. It is one as an individual and not necessarily representing the views of the board of directors. The Century Link FCC filing is a direct attack on our industry and what our, sometimes small, enterprises stand for. The Century Link filing, in my opinion and it has been mentioned, a clear sign of weakness on their part and shows their dependency on .gov subsidies. In this aspect is a victory for WISPA! Yet it is slanderous document that WISPA and the individuals accused must refute. As an elected member of the WISPA board of directors, I can assure you that the board is addressing these issues and considers this a priority. For those who may have missed it, the petition is here: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7021978603 Century Telephone Enterprises, by whatever name it's using, has always been the worst of the worst. My nickname for them is The Devil Incarnate. These are the folks who, facing a modem pool owned by a tiny carrier during the dial-up years, simply refused to pass calls to that carrier as local, even though the rate center was local. Utterly sleazy. Their petition is indeed slanderous, basically claiming that WISPs can't offer as good a service as they can, and demanding that the FCC treat all WISPs like satellite providers. This would let CenturyLink take Phase I CAF funding of $775/subscriber to overbuild WISPs. To show how ridiculous this is, just turn it around. What could you, as a WISP, do with a gift of $775 in capital per subscriber? Yeah, a lot more than they can. That's a lot of money to a WISP, but bupkis to a subsidy whore like Century. I look forward to the Board's response, and if the Petition is open to Comment from others, it deserves a serious blasting. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Happy Independence Day!
At 6/29/2012 09:36 PM, Victoria Proffer wrote: For those who may have missed it, the petition is here: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7021978603http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7021978603 I am sorry if I don't get this right Fred, but I don't believe this is the petition, rather than it is the complaint. Is that correct? It is their Petition for Waiver. It is basically a complaint, but since WISPs are not licensees, and the WISPs haven't actually done anything wrong, they cannot file a real complaint against them. Instead they are petitioning to have WISPs ignored in CAF Phase I. However, it is accompanied by a number of Exhibits which deserve attention too. To see it, go to the FCC's e-filing page, then ECFS, and search for CenturyLink as the filer and petition for waiver as the type. You'll see that this was filed in a whole bunch of Dockets. They pulled a bunch of WISPs' coverage maps off of the NBM and decided that they were implausible. Now a few are sort of sloppy, basically simple radii. CL claims that radio coverage never fits a perfect circle due to terrain and they are close to correct there. However, some WISP maps may simply stop at 10 miles even if they can go farther. They also rule any WISP implausible if its coverage area is more than 10 miles wide. They simply assume that a WISP has exactly one tower, so any bigger coverage must be a lie! I note that some of the maps look like they were generated by RadioMobile. But they were fed into the state mapping entity as part of the NBM project. The state maps in turn tend to be normalized to census blocks or even larger areas. So the map is not identical to the RadioMobile coverage prediction or for that matter any real coverage. This is an artifact of the NBM, not the WISPs' own doing. The map exaggerates CL's coverage too, the same way. DSL touching a census block makes that whole block look covered. And let me state on a side note ... your interjections in WISPA business, in my opinion, is extremely valued! There have been several times that you have broken a complex problem down to common sense. Thank you. Thank you! Victoria Proffer http://www.stlwimax.com/STLWiMAX, LLC 314-720-1000 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Happy Independence Day! At 6/29/2012 08:45 PM, Victoria Proffer wrote: ... In my years in this industry, it is clear that some fail, as well as some become a sterling example of what I consider my industry is primarily made of, girt, fortitude, honesty, common sense, gumption, imaginativeness (check it out, it is a word =), resourcefulness ... oh well, you get the picture =) With that said, I have to make my comment. It is one as an individual and not necessarily representing the views of the board of directors. The Century Link FCC filing is a direct attack on our industry and what our, sometimes small, enterprises stand for. The Century Link filing, in my opinion and it has been mentioned, a clear sign of weakness on their part and shows their dependency on .gov subsidies. In this aspect is a victory for WISPA! Yet it is slanderous document that WISPA and the individuals accused must refute. As an elected member of the WISPA board of directors, I can assure you that the board is addressing these issues and considers this a priority. For those who may have missed it, the petition is here: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7021978603http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7021978603 Century Telephone Enterprises, by whatever name it's using, has always been the worst of the worst. My nickname for them is The Devil Incarnate. These are the folks who, facing a modem pool owned by a tiny carrier during the dial-up years, simply refused to pass calls to that carrier as local, even though the rate center was local. Utterly sleazy. Their petition is indeed slanderous, basically claiming that WISPs can't offer as good a service as they can, and demanding that the FCC treat all WISPs like satellite providers. This would let CenturyLink take Phase I CAF funding of $775/subscriber to overbuild WISPs. To show how ridiculous this is, just turn it around. What could you, as a WISP, do with a gift of $775 in capital per subscriber? Yeah, a lot more than they can. That's a lot of money to a WISP, but bupkis to a subsidy whore like Century. I look forward to the Board's response, and if the Petition is open to Comment from others, it deserves a serious blasting. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Fred
Re: [WISPA] Happy Independence Day!
Fred, There is a clear difference in what CL professes to be true, than what is reality. I am glad to jump on any bandwagon to disprove these hubris statements. And I, personally, will be happy to support any endeavor to demolish these accusations that have been laid at the WISPA doorstep. I thank you for your confidence in my logic. I am just an old Missouri gal, and call it as I see it. Respectfully, Victoria Proffer http://www.stlwimax.com/ STLWiMAX, LLC 314-720-1000 From: Fred Goldstein [mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:50 PM To: victo...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Happy Independence Day! At 6/29/2012 09:36 PM, Victoria Proffer wrote: For those who may have missed it, the petition is here: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7021978603 I am sorry if I don't get this right Fred, but I don't believe this is the petition, rather than it is the complaint. Is that correct? It is their Petition for Waiver. It is basically a complaint, but since WISPs are not licensees, and the WISPs haven't actually done anything wrong, they cannot file a real complaint against them. Instead they are petitioning to have WISPs ignored in CAF Phase I. However, it is accompanied by a number of Exhibits which deserve attention too. To see it, go to the FCC's e-filing page, then ECFS, and search for CenturyLink as the filer and petition for waiver as the type. You'll see that this was filed in a whole bunch of Dockets. They pulled a bunch of WISPs' coverage maps off of the NBM and decided that they were implausible. Now a few are sort of sloppy, basically simple radii. CL claims that radio coverage never fits a perfect circle due to terrain and they are close to correct there. However, some WISP maps may simply stop at 10 miles even if they can go farther. They also rule any WISP implausible if its coverage area is more than 10 miles wide. They simply assume that a WISP has exactly one tower, so any bigger coverage must be a lie! I note that some of the maps look like they were generated by RadioMobile. But they were fed into the state mapping entity as part of the NBM project. The state maps in turn tend to be normalized to census blocks or even larger areas. So the map is not identical to the RadioMobile coverage prediction or for that matter any real coverage. This is an artifact of the NBM, not the WISPs' own doing. The map exaggerates CL's coverage too, the same way. DSL touching a census block makes that whole block look covered. And let me state on a side note ... your interjections in WISPA business, in my opinion, is extremely valued! There have been several times that you have broken a complex problem down to common sense. Thank you. Thank you! Victoria Proffer STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/ 314-720-1000 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Happy Independence Day! At 6/29/2012 08:45 PM, Victoria Proffer wrote: ... In my years in this industry, it is clear that some fail, as well as some become a sterling example of what I consider my industry is primarily made of, girt, fortitude, honesty, common sense, gumption, imaginativeness (check it out, it is a word =), resourcefulness ... oh well, you get the picture =) With that said, I have to make my comment. It is one as an individual and not necessarily representing the views of the board of directors. The Century Link FCC filing is a direct attack on our industry and what our, sometimes small, enterprises stand for. The Century Link filing, in my opinion and it has been mentioned, a clear sign of weakness on their part and shows their dependency on .gov subsidies. In this aspect is a victory for WISPA! Yet it is slanderous document that WISPA and the individuals accused must refute. As an elected member of the WISPA board of directors, I can assure you that the board is addressing these issues and considers this a priority. For those who may have missed it, the petition is here: http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7021978603 Century Telephone Enterprises, by whatever name it's using, has always been the worst of the worst. My nickname for them is The Devil Incarnate. These are the folks who, facing a modem pool owned by a tiny carrier during the dial-up years, simply refused to pass calls to that carrier as local, even though the rate center was local. Utterly sleazy. Their petition is indeed slanderous, basically claiming that WISPs can't offer as good a service as they can, and demanding that the FCC treat all WISPs like satellite providers. This would let CenturyLink take Phase I CAF funding of $775/subscriber to overbuild WISPs. To show how ridiculous this is, just turn it around. What could you, as a WISP, do
