Re: [WISPA] 5GHz CPE Install Information
Well, first, we've found having multiple towers covering an area helps a lot in these situations where a house might have trees in the wrong direction blocking one tower, it may be open in another direction to a different tower. So you may want more towers than necessary just to cover the area on a map. We've actually added some 5ghz only towers to fill in coverage gaps where we had marginal coverage on 900mhz, 2.4 or 3.65 all of which we use for NLOS customers. If the tech still finds they have trees in the way, then we try to get above or around the trees. We have several options: 4x4 wood yard post with 10ft metal mast, mounted on far side of trees (like for your windbreak example), 5 or 10ft roof tripod with 10ft mast may give just enough extra height to clear a more distant tree line. We occasionally put a 50ft push-up mast on an outuilding, but those are a PAIN to install and service. And we have a lot of customers where a tower is their only option - we sell them the tower in those cases. Sometimes they can turn into a repeater tower to expand your 5ghz LOS service to the nearby neighbors. Of course, there will be customers that can't afford a 60-100ft tower, so they won't be able to get service - you can't get every customer with wireless On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Timothy Way t...@way.vg wrote: I am doing a lot of research as well as a lab built 5GHz test system for a point to multi-point build. It seems everything is going the way of 5GHz and with that I have a fair amount of concern regarding getting a definite clear line of site from a customer to a tower offering them service. Specifically I am struggling with what others are doing on the customer side. The area I am looking to build out with 5GHz would be pretty typical farmland. The vast majority of it is wide open but around the houses people do have a fair amount of trees to create wind blocks and just physical separation from the fields. If the customer has an obstruction like trees or other rooftops that might block a signal do you put up your own small tower to get them service? Do you not try to service them? What type of equipment do you use to actually do the installation then? Do you generally say because of xyz reason you need a tower and we do it for you but it will be a one time fee of x or a monthly fee of y? Thanks in advance, Tim ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Anyone with wholesale contact in Level 3?
You could try: Kevin J. Moreau RSP Account Director Wholesale Services Level 3 Communications C: 305-491-5983 E: kevin.mor...@level3.commailto:kevin.mor...@level3.com I haven't talked to him for a while though and don't know if he's still there. James Howard LiteWire Internet Services, Inc. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 3:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Anyone with wholesale contact in Level 3? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.comhttp://www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr Total Control Panel Loginhttps://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orghttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2283384965domain=litewire.net Message Score: 1 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2283384965domain=litewire.net this sender / Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2283384965domain=litewire.net this sender enterprise-wide Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2283384965domain=litewire.net wispa.org / Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2283384965domain=litewire.net wispa.org enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] security certificate
It appears public SSL certificates won't be a solution by 2016: https://support.godaddy.com/help/article/6935/phasing-out-intranet-names-and-ip-addresses-in-ssls As I understand it, the correct solution is for an enterprise to operate it's own public key infrastructure, issuing and managing it's own certificates for internal use based on a private root certificate which employees import into their browsers. I don't have any experience with this, but if someone on list does, I'd love to know if it's worth the time and effort. Thanks, Brough Brough Turner netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband! Mobile: 617-285-0433 Skype: brough netBlazr Inc. http://www.netblazr.com/ | Google+ https://plus.google.com/102447512447094746687/posts?hl=en | Twitter https://twitter.com/#%21/brough | LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/broughturner | Facebook http://www.facebook.com/brough.turner | Blog http://blogs.broughturner.com/ | Personal website http://broughturner.com/ On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: SSLs.com $4.99/year On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Jon Hebb j...@hebbnetworks.com wrote: You can find a 1-Yr Comodo PositveSSL Wildcard cert for less than $100 online if you search around, which would be more than enough to install on your AP's. On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There ya go! Slap on DNS and that goes away. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 19, 2014 1:28 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: http://www.netcentraldomains.com $209 per year. *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Few hundred? I remember them being crazy expensive. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 19, 2014 10:08 AM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: Or you can buy a wildcard for a few hundred dollars and use it on all your devices. *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Pay for a certified SSL cert for each host. That's 50/device/year. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 17, 2014 5:43 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Ignore it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *~NGL~ n...@ngl.net *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Monday, October 13, 2014 7:18:08 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] security certificate There is a problem with this website's security certificate. How do I correct this problem? I get this almost every time I log in to a Ubiquiti radio. NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Best Regards, Jon Hebb Hebb Networks www.hebbnetworks.com Cell: 304.680.6777 Office: 304.460.5533 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] security certificate
This is new information to me especially in regards to the SAN certificate. I am very interested in how this will affect the MS Exchange SAN certificate solution especially because currently there isn't a clear architecture for separate client facing servers solely for Internet facing users and intranet facing users. Otherwise yes, it is good practice to implement your own PKI and use whatever method meets your fancy to deploy and manage those certificates on the endpoints. As far as what root CA to use you can use a Linux box or Windows has an established CA service as well. We use it in production for 802.1x authentication of our systems on the wire and wireless. We use Apple MDM to help manage the Mac certificates and Group Policy to help with the Windows systems. We use the Windows CA. Hope that helps. On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Brough Turner bro...@netblazr.com wrote: It appears public SSL certificates won't be a solution by 2016: https://support.godaddy.com/help/article/6935/phasing-out-intranet-names-and-ip-addresses-in-ssls As I understand it, the correct solution is for an enterprise to operate it's own public key infrastructure, issuing and managing it's own certificates for internal use based on a private root certificate which employees import into their browsers. I don't have any experience with this, but if someone on list does, I'd love to know if it's worth the time and effort. Thanks, Brough Brough Turner netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband! Mobile: 617-285-0433 Skype: brough netBlazr Inc. http://www.netblazr.com/ | Google+ https://plus.google.com/102447512447094746687/posts?hl=en | Twitter https://twitter.com/#%21/brough | LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/broughturner | Facebook http://www.facebook.com/brough.turner | Blog http://blogs.broughturner.com/ | Personal website http://broughturner.com/ On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: SSLs.com $4.99/year On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Jon Hebb j...@hebbnetworks.com wrote: You can find a 1-Yr Comodo PositveSSL Wildcard cert for less than $100 online if you search around, which would be more than enough to install on your AP's. On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There ya go! Slap on DNS and that goes away. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 19, 2014 1:28 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: http://www.netcentraldomains.com $209 per year. *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Few hundred? I remember them being crazy expensive. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 19, 2014 10:08 AM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: Or you can buy a wildcard for a few hundred dollars and use it on all your devices. *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Pay for a certified SSL cert for each host. That's 50/device/year. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 17, 2014 5:43 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Ignore it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *~NGL~ n...@ngl.net *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Monday, October 13, 2014 7:18:08 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] security certificate There is a problem with this website's security certificate. How do I correct this problem? I get this almost every time I log in to a Ubiquiti radio. NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Best Regards, Jon Hebb Hebb Networks www.hebbnetworks.com Cell: 304.680.6777 Office: 304.460.5533 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] 5GHz CPE Install Information
1st: I had thread view on and I am a failure that doesn't now how to reply to the thread in that view. It has since been changed to the normal send all messages format. 2nd: Thanks for the quick and detailed reply Chris! Do you or anyone else on the list have a handy cheat sheet of pricing for what you might do for that 60 - 100 ft tower at a customers house regarding service? Are you talking some kind of TV antenna tower or another type of tower? Being that you offer service on the other bands (900 and 2.4) do you have any problems procuring the gear for those still? Thanks in advance, Tim ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] security certificate
Now that I've read the whole thread I can answer in more detail to the original question of how to remove SSL warnings when he/she logs into his devices. Simply create a DNS entry for that device and secure it with a single SSL certificate per device (expensive) or (my preference) a wildcard SSL certificate (single purchase for all of your devices). If you use private address space to access your devices the CA you use might not issue to a name that resolves to a private IP but I'd actually have to check with a CA before making that a certain statement. Also, you could go the route of putting up your own PKI infrastructure but you would have to make sure you have the ability of to add your newly created root CA certificate on the devices being accessed. Lastly the truly simple option might be to install each devices SSL certificate on your system as a trusted certificate. This would only cause your system to not display an error so if you moved systems the certificates would need to be installed all over again. If you have a lot of devices you access like this it could be rather unwieldy. On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Timothy Way t...@way.lc wrote: This is new information to me especially in regards to the SAN certificate. I am very interested in how this will affect the MS Exchange SAN certificate solution especially because currently there isn't a clear architecture for separate client facing servers solely for Internet facing users and intranet facing users. Otherwise yes, it is good practice to implement your own PKI and use whatever method meets your fancy to deploy and manage those certificates on the endpoints. As far as what root CA to use you can use a Linux box or Windows has an established CA service as well. We use it in production for 802.1x authentication of our systems on the wire and wireless. We use Apple MDM to help manage the Mac certificates and Group Policy to help with the Windows systems. We use the Windows CA. Hope that helps. On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Brough Turner bro...@netblazr.com wrote: It appears public SSL certificates won't be a solution by 2016: https://support.godaddy.com/help/article/6935/phasing-out-intranet-names-and-ip-addresses-in-ssls As I understand it, the correct solution is for an enterprise to operate it's own public key infrastructure, issuing and managing it's own certificates for internal use based on a private root certificate which employees import into their browsers. I don't have any experience with this, but if someone on list does, I'd love to know if it's worth the time and effort. Thanks, Brough Brough Turner netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband! Mobile: 617-285-0433 Skype: brough netBlazr Inc. http://www.netblazr.com/ | Google+ https://plus.google.com/102447512447094746687/posts?hl=en | Twitter https://twitter.com/#%21/brough | LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/broughturner | Facebook http://www.facebook.com/brough.turner | Blog http://blogs.broughturner.com/ | Personal website http://broughturner.com/ On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: SSLs.com $4.99/year On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Jon Hebb j...@hebbnetworks.com wrote: You can find a 1-Yr Comodo PositveSSL Wildcard cert for less than $100 online if you search around, which would be more than enough to install on your AP's. On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There ya go! Slap on DNS and that goes away. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 19, 2014 1:28 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: http://www.netcentraldomains.com $209 per year. *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Few hundred? I remember them being crazy expensive. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 19, 2014 10:08 AM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: Or you can buy a wildcard for a few hundred dollars and use it on all your devices. *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Pay for a certified SSL cert for each host. That's 50/device/year. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 17, 2014 5:43 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Ignore it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *~NGL~ n...@ngl.net *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Monday, October 13, 2014 7:18:08 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] security certificate There is a problem with this website's security certificate. How do I correct this problem? I get this almost every time I log in to a Ubiquiti radio. NGL If you can read this Thank A
Re: [WISPA] FCC NOI for Cellular 24GHz (and a note about 5GHz...)
I suspect that would only be used in small cells. It would be useless at the macro level, even with various smart antenna techniques. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, a...@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:50:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] FCC NOI for Cellular 24GHz (and a note about 5GHz...) http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/10/19/34/gigabit-cellular-networks-could-happen-with-24ghz-spectrum -- Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] security certificate
If you use Exchange 2007 or newer, you can change the internal dns name in your send and receive connectors to match the cert. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Timothy Way t...@way.lc wrote: ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Bid on the pink bibs
Having lost my youngest sister to breast cancer and having another sister who beat it, I appreciated this effort by WISPA and its members. Thank you. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01CFEC78.746BB480]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 3:11 PM To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bid on the pink bibs Congrats to Dave Giles for winning the bibs. He makes them look great! There were a number of Vendors as well as WISPs that agreed to match this winning bid of $251. I have sent emails to the ones that I had on the list giving them the link to donate directly to the NBCF. If you were one of the folks that agreed to match the bid and didn't just get an email from me, please contact me off-list so I don't miss anyone. All donations are tax deductable and go directly to the NBCF. They have told me that these proceeds will go to help fund the free mammography program. It's not too late to help. If you would like to match Dave on the $251 that's great but any donation will help. Below is the link to the donation page where you can see the total and make a donation if you would like to. https://fundraise.nbcf.org/fundraise?fcid=352570 It was great seeing all the pink on Thursday. Thx, Jim Patient Office: 314-735-0270 linktechs.nethttp://www.linktechs.net/ towercoverage.comhttp://www.towercoverage.com/ ispradio.comhttp://www.ispradio.com/ From: members-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tekwav Lists Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:26 PM To: memb...@wispa.orgmailto:memb...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Bid on the pink bibs Here's the full link...just in case you want quick access. http://www.ebay.com/itm/221572562548?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D221572562548%26_rdc%3D1 JJ On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:51 PM, alex phillips highspeedl...@gmail.commailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com wrote: ___ Members mailing list memb...@wispa.orgmailto:memb...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] selling brand new equipment
I am selling brand new equipment: 4 Rocket M2 $75 each 1 NSM2 $75 2 TS5POE $ 85 each 4 RB912UAG5HPNDOU $ 75 each 5 AIRROUTERHP $55 each all this comes with free shipping ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
