Re: [WISPA] Happy New Year. BE SAFE!

[Patrick Leary]

Oh that is funny.



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& thinks about population control at the same time!!!

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And smart and beautiful too!

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What a great Wife Seriously a keeper!


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I've four kids 9-13. Currently they have all their fingers and toes. Oochie 
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Happy New everyone.

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Re: [WISPA] Happy New Year. BE SAFE!

[Robert Andrews]

& thinks about population control at the same time!!!


On 12/31/2014 02:12 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:


And smart and beautiful too!

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What a great Wife Seriously a keeper!

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of fireworks. I've four kids 9-13. Currently they have all their
fingers and toes. Oochie momma.

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Re: [WISPA] Happy New Year. BE SAFE!

[Patrick Leary]

And smart and beautiful too!

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Happy New Year. BE SAFE!

What a great Wife Seriously a keeper!

On 12/31/2014 01:58 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:
God help the Leary family. My wife just walked in with an armful of fireworks. 
I've four kids 9-13. Currently they have all their fingers and toes. Oochie 
momma.

Happy New everyone.

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Re: [WISPA] [Telrad] Happy New Year. BE SAFE!

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Heh :) 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

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From: "Patrick Leary" 
To: "WISPA General List" , "tel...@wispa.org" 

Subject: [Telrad] Happy New Year. BE SAFE!
Date: Wed, Dec 31, 2014 3:58 PM
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I've four kids 9-13. Currently they have all their fingers and toes. Oochie 
momma.

Happy New everyone. 





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Re: [WISPA] Happy New Year. BE SAFE!

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What a great Wife Seriously a keeper!


On 12/31/2014 01:58 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:


God help the Leary family. My wife just walked in with an armful of 
fireworks. I've four kids 9-13. Currently they have all their fingers 
and toes. Oochie momma.


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Re: [WISPA] Happy New Year. BE SAFE!

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Let us know if there are any losses. Hehe

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momma.

Happy New everyone.

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

[Daniel Mullen]

At 15:29 31.12.2014, you wrote:
>In fact it's so simple that even Verizon can provision it.


+1 from a Verizon Reseller. ;-) 

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

[Fred Goldstein]

On 12/31/2014 8:45 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
So then what do you guys think should be the desired functionality, 
standards, etc. we'd want out of MEF\CE in a WISP "router"?





Interesting point Dan made about the price of certification.  Not that 
it's outrageous as these things go, but it's a cost that needs 
justification.  The MEF 9 and 14 specs are key, to be "compliant" even 
if not "certified".  It's the ability to provision virtual circuits (by 
whatever name) between points on a network, with settable CIR and 
defined delay variance. Contrast with MPLS, which sets relative 
priorities but (except for the -TE variant) doesn't have actual rates, 
and yet is more complicated.  Carrier Ethernet is relatively simple.  In 
fact it's so simple that even Verizon can provision it.




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*From: *"Daniel White" 
*To: *"WISPA General List" 
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 31, 2014 7:34:45 AM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

Okay my 2 cents – and I’m largely taking my vendor hat off here.

So something to add to the offlist discussion I had with Mike (some 
Latvian companies have heard of MEF, and already have roadmaped Y.1731 
in their Integra radios)… there is A LOT of certifications for MEF…


http://metroethernetforum.org/carrier-ethernet/technical-specifications

OAM is just one part of the puzzle. I’m sure Mikrotik, just like many 
manufacturers, could say we are MEF compliant (and we (SAF) already 
are on things like 9 & 14).  Certification costs A LOT of money.  Just 
joining the organization is $15,000 USD annually.  So for a WISP 
focused manufacturer (and Mikrotik isn’t the only router manufacturer 
focused on WISP’s right?) spending the huge sums without seeing there 
will be a return (how many people are building OAM into their 
networks… probably a handful here) isn’t worth the investment.  So 
make it worth the investment. :-)


Carrier Ethernet is many things, it’s not just one thing.  And what it 
is has different definitions to different people.


Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) or ITU-T (International Telecommunications 
Union) or IEEE (Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers) is 
not a specific thing… but a lot of things.   Y.1731 is actually an 
ITU-T recommendation, similar to IEEE 802.1AG.  MEF has an 
interpretation of Y.1731 included in MEF 17, 30.1, 31, 31.0.1, 35, 
35.0.1, 35.0.2, 36, 38, and 39 with test suites 21 and 25.


SAF tends to stick to ITU and IEEE certifications.  But since MEF 
develops their recommendations from them, we are usually compliant.


An argument could be made that MEF is an organization made up to line 
the pockets of a small few by charging exorbitant rates to get 
equipment or networks certified based on standards created by ITU and 
IEEE.  Kinda like a good ol’ boys club (together we set the standard, 
and I promise I’ll buy a lot after we charge you this large amount of 
money for “Certification” to block your competition)… Usually on the 
Tier 1 networks require certification, which happen to be the ones 
that created MEF to begin with (and also the vendors that tend to be 
heavily involved).  Of course anyone can join MEF and get 
certification… but the cost barrier to entry is high.


My point being – make sure to be specific to any manufacturer what you 
are asking for. Don’t say “you need carrier Ethernet” or “you need MEF 
compliance/certification” but instead be specific “I’d like Y.1731 
compliance in your equipment.”  Point to a specific standard… it helps 
a lot.  Maybe tell them which routerboards specifically need it – some 
of their hardware probably can’t support it (or at least well).


Anyways I promise the inner-core of Mikrotik has heard of MEF.  But 
all manufacturers engineer towards demand (or perceived demand in the 
case of more visionary ideas) because that is how we make money.  I 
can’t promise everyone in sales, engineering, or tech support at SAF 
know what MEF is… but I promise the people that work on our Ethernet 
stack, that work in Ethernet product development (why does an RF 
engineer need to know what MEF is?), and work in our testing 
department know.


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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

[Gino Villarini]

Packet transport (eline,ertree ect) and OAM



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www.aeronetpr.com
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From: Mike Hammett mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 at 9:45 AM
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

So then what do you guys think should be the desired functionality, standards, 
etc. we'd want out of MEF\CE in a WISP "router"?



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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Daniel White" 
mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 7:34:45 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

Okay my 2 cents – and I’m largely taking my vendor hat off here.

So something to add to the offlist discussion I had with Mike (some Latvian 
companies have heard of MEF, and already have roadmaped Y.1731 in their Integra 
radios)… there is A LOT of certifications for MEF…

http://metroethernetforum.org/carrier-ethernet/technical-specifications

OAM is just one part of the puzzle.  I’m sure Mikrotik, just like many 
manufacturers, could say we are MEF compliant (and we (SAF) already are on 
things like 9 & 14).  Certification costs A LOT of money.  Just joining the 
organization is $15,000 USD annually.  So for a WISP focused manufacturer (and 
Mikrotik isn’t the only router manufacturer focused on WISP’s right?) spending 
the huge sums without seeing there will be a return (how many people are 
building OAM into their networks… probably a handful here) isn’t worth the 
investment.  So make it worth the investment. :-)

Carrier Ethernet is many things, it’s not just one thing.  And what it is has 
different definitions to different people.

Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) or ITU-T (International Telecommunications Union) or 
IEEE (Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers) is not a specific 
thing… but a lot of things.   Y.1731 is actually an ITU-T recommendation, 
similar to IEEE 802.1AG.  MEF has an interpretation of Y.1731 included in MEF 
17, 30.1, 31, 31.0.1, 35, 35.0.1, 35.0.2, 36, 38, and 39 with test suites 21 
and 25.

SAF tends to stick to ITU and IEEE certifications.  But since MEF develops 
their recommendations from them, we are usually compliant.

An argument could be made that MEF is an organization made up to line the 
pockets of a small few by charging exorbitant rates to get equipment or 
networks certified based on standards created by ITU and IEEE.  Kinda like a 
good ol’ boys club (together we set the standard, and I promise I’ll buy a lot 
after we charge you this large amount of money for “Certification” to block 
your competition)… Usually on the Tier 1 networks require certification, which 
happen to be the ones that created MEF to begin with (and also the vendors that 
tend to be heavily involved).  Of course anyone can join MEF and get 
certification… but the cost barrier to entry is high.

My point being – make sure to be specific to any manufacturer what you are 
asking for.  Don’t say “you need carrier Ethernet” or “you need MEF 
compliance/certification” but instead be specific “I’d like Y.1731 compliance 
in your equipment.”  Point to a specific standard… it helps a lot.  Maybe tell 
them which routerboards specifically need it – some of their hardware probably 
can’t support it (or at least well).

Anyways I promise the inner-core of Mikrotik has heard of MEF.  But all 
manufacturers engineer towards demand (or perceived demand in the case of more 
visionary ideas) because that is how we make money.  I can’t promise everyone 
in sales, engineering, or tech support at SAF know what MEF is… but I promise 
the people that work on our Ethernet stack, that work in Ethernet product 
development (why does an RF engineer need to know what MEF is?), and work in 
our testing department know.

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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 2:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

Not the same when you are a

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

[Mike Hammett]

So then what do you guys think should be the desired functionality, standards, 
etc. we'd want out of MEF\CE in a WISP "router"? 




- 
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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- Original Message -

From: "Daniel White"  
To: "WISPA General List"  
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 7:34:45 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF 



Okay my 2 cents – and I’m largely taking my vendor hat off here. 

So something to add to the offlist discussion I had with Mike (some Latvian 
companies have heard of MEF, and already have roadmaped Y.1731 in their Integra 
radios)… there is A LOT of certifications for MEF… 

http://metroethernetforum.org/carrier-ethernet/technical-specifications 

OAM is just one part of the puzzle. I’m sure Mikrotik, just like many 
manufacturers, could say we are MEF compliant (and we (SAF) already are on 
things like 9 & 14). Certification costs A LOT of money. Just joining the 
organization is $15,000 USD annually. So for a WISP focused manufacturer (and 
Mikrotik isn’t the only router manufacturer focused on WISP’s right?) spending 
the huge sums without seeing there will be a return (how many people are 
building OAM into their networks… probably a handful here) isn’t worth the 
investment. So make it worth the investment. :-) 

Carrier Ethernet is many things, it’s not just one thing. And what it is has 
different definitions to different people. 

Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) or ITU-T (International Telecommunications Union) or 
IEEE (Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers) is not a specific 
thing… but a lot of things. Y.1731 is actually an ITU-T recommendation, similar 
to IEEE 802.1AG. MEF has an interpretation of Y.1731 included in MEF 17, 30.1, 
31, 31.0.1, 35, 35.0.1, 35.0.2, 36, 38, and 39 with test suites 21 and 25. 

SAF tends to stick to ITU and IEEE certifications. But since MEF develops their 
recommendations from them, we are usually compliant. 

An argument could be made that MEF is an organization made up to line the 
pockets of a small few by charging exorbitant rates to get equipment or 
networks certified based on standards created by ITU and IEEE. Kinda like a 
good ol’ boys club (together we set the standard, and I promise I’ll buy a lot 
after we charge you this large amount of money for “Certification” to block 
your competition)… Usually on the Tier 1 networks require certification, which 
happen to be the ones that created MEF to begin with (and also the vendors that 
tend to be heavily involved). Of course anyone can join MEF and get 
certification… but the cost barrier to entry is high. 

My point being – make sure to be specific to any manufacturer what you are 
asking for. Don’t say “you need carrier Ethernet” or “you need MEF 
compliance/certification” but instead be specific “I’d like Y.1731 compliance 
in your equipment.” Point to a specific standard… it helps a lot. Maybe tell 
them which routerboards specifically need it – some of their hardware probably 
can’t support it (or at least well). 

Anyways I promise the inner-core of Mikrotik has heard of MEF. But all 
manufacturers engineer towards demand (or perceived demand in the case of more 
visionary ideas) because that is how we make money. I can’t promise everyone in 
sales, engineering, or tech support at SAF know what MEF is… but I promise the 
people that work on our Ethernet stack, that work in Ethernet product 
development (why does an RF engineer need to know what MEF is?), and work in 
our testing department know. 



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Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 2:23 AM 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF 




Not the same when you are a router manufacturer… 








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From: Mike Hammett < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > 
Reply-To: WISPA General List < wireless@wispa.org > 
Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 at 6:05 PM 
To: WISPA General List < wireless@wispa.org > 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF 





How many WISPs have heard of MEF or CE or even VPLS? 

So... have you asked for it yet? :-p 


supp...@mikrotik.com 



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Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -


From: "Gino Vi

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

[Daniel White]

Okay my 2 cents - and I'm largely taking my vendor hat off here.

So something to add to the offlist discussion I had with Mike (some Latvian 
companies have heard of MEF, and already have roadmaped Y.1731 in their Integra 
radios)... there is A LOT of certifications for MEF...

http://metroethernetforum.org/carrier-ethernet/technical-specifications

OAM is just one part of the puzzle.  I'm sure Mikrotik, just like many 
manufacturers, could say we are MEF compliant (and we (SAF) already are on 
things like 9 & 14).  Certification costs A LOT of money.  Just joining the 
organization is $15,000 USD annually.  So for a WISP focused manufacturer (and 
Mikrotik isn't the only router manufacturer focused on WISP's right?) spending 
the huge sums without seeing there will be a return (how many people are 
building OAM into their networks... probably a handful here) isn't worth the 
investment.  So make it worth the investment. :-)

Carrier Ethernet is many things, it's not just one thing.  And what it is has 
different definitions to different people.

Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) or ITU-T (International Telecommunications Union) or 
IEEE (Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers) is not a specific 
thing... but a lot of things.   Y.1731 is actually an ITU-T recommendation, 
similar to IEEE 802.1AG.  MEF has an interpretation of Y.1731 included in MEF 
17, 30.1, 31, 31.0.1, 35, 35.0.1, 35.0.2, 36, 38, and 39 with test suites 21 
and 25.

SAF tends to stick to ITU and IEEE certifications.  But since MEF develops 
their recommendations from them, we are usually compliant.

An argument could be made that MEF is an organization made up to line the 
pockets of a small few by charging exorbitant rates to get equipment or 
networks certified based on standards created by ITU and IEEE.  Kinda like a 
good ol' boys club (together we set the standard, and I promise I'll buy a lot 
after we charge you this large amount of money for "Certification" to block 
your competition)... Usually on the Tier 1 networks require certification, 
which happen to be the ones that created MEF to begin with (and also the 
vendors that tend to be heavily involved).  Of course anyone can join MEF and 
get certification... but the cost barrier to entry is high.

My point being - make sure to be specific to any manufacturer what you are 
asking for.  Don't say "you need carrier Ethernet" or "you need MEF 
compliance/certification" but instead be specific "I'd like Y.1731 compliance 
in your equipment."  Point to a specific standard... it helps a lot.  Maybe 
tell them which routerboards specifically need it - some of their hardware 
probably can't support it (or at least well).

Anyways I promise the inner-core of Mikrotik has heard of MEF.  But all 
manufacturers engineer towards demand (or perceived demand in the case of more 
visionary ideas) because that is how we make money.  I can't promise everyone 
in sales, engineering, or tech support at SAF know what MEF is... but I promise 
the people that work on our Ethernet stack, that work in Ethernet product 
development (why does an RF engineer need to know what MEF is?), and work in 
our testing department know.

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SAF North America LLC

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Skype:

danieldwhite

E-mail:

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 2:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

Not the same when you are a router manufacturer...



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Mike Hammett mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 at 6:05 PM
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

How many WISPs have heard of MEF or CE or even VPLS?

So...  have you asked for it yet?   :-p


supp...@mikrotik.com


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Gino Villarini" mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 4:00:41 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF
They are

[WISPA] Mimosa....anybody tested it?

[Paolo Di Francesco]

Dear allm

do you have any feedback about Mimosa?

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

[Gino Villarini]

Not the same when you are a router manufacturer…



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Mike Hammett mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 at 6:05 PM
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

How many WISPs have heard of MEF or CE or even VPLS?

So...  have you asked for it yet?   :-p


supp...@mikrotik.com



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Gino Villarini" mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 4:00:41 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

They are a router vendor and didn't knew about MEF...??? Are you f...kng 
kidding me??? Sheesh! They do live in a bubble...I guess that's one of the 
reasons they have not grown out of the wisp market

Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini



On Dec 30, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Mike Hammett 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

They had never heard of it before and I'm the only one that has ever brought it 
up to them. Trying to convince them now to do the work. At the last US MUM, 
they were saying to e-mail them with requests and enhancements. Since they said 
no one has before, I invite you all to.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Gino Villarini" mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 3:39:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - MEF

And they agreed?

Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini



On Dec 30, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Mike Hammett 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

E-mail Mikrotik support and ask them to obtain MEF certification.

For those that don't know what MEF is, it's what the big boys have for all of 
the gear they use.

http://metroethernetforum.org/certification/equipment-certification-overview
http://metroethernetforum.org/carrier-ethernet/technical-specifications

Y.1731 is a big thing to my prospective clients to document the performance of 
circuits I provide.

https://metroethernetforum.org/Assets/Presentation/Overview_of_the_Work_of_the_MEF_20130610.pptx



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