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Re: [WISPA] ePMP vs Mimosa for 50Mbps+ Speed plans.

[Civano Coffee House]

They are TDMA ready and they are beta testing the firmware to activate it,
but at this time TDMA is greyed out in the config console on the Mimosa
equipment.

 

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Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:31 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ePMP vs Mimosa for 50Mbps+ Speed plans.

 

On 10/6/2016 6:26 PM, Civano Coffee House wrote:

Even without TDMA on a Mimosa A5-14, and Cambium Force180 and Force 200
CPE's we have 23 customers with 100Mbit plans and have not  maxed it out,
Customers don't use the full bandwidth, but we were happy to sell it to
them. They do a few speed tests and see the 100Mbits and are happy. We are
also waiting for TDMA to start migrating over to the C5 CPE platform, till
then everyone is happy.

 


Do they not have any TDMA (what AirMax is), or just not synchronous TDMA
(GPS)? Absent TDMA, it becomes Wi-Fi, and all those hidden transmitters get
in each others' way.




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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael W Rhone II
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 2:22 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org  
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ePMP vs Mimosa for 50Mbps+ Speed plans.

 

We sell 35mbs plans on M5 gear on a 20mhz channel. UBNT AC gear can easily
do 50mbs plans on a 20mhz channel. If you keep everyone fully modulated, you
could probably get away with a few 100mbs plans per sector. If you can get
away with 40mhz channels, you can really move up the plan speeds. We are
also moving away from sectors and using RF Elements Horn antennas. 

We don't use epmp, so I'll let someone else comment on that. AFAIK though,
Mimosa doesn't have TDMA working yet, so I can't recommend that until its
ready. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. 

On 10/6/16 4:03 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote:

We are doing 25Mbps plans (slowest) up to 100 Mbps plans using ePMP.  Feel
free to contact me off list. 

 

Chad

 

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Chris Fabien  > wrote:

We have deployed 5Ghz ePMP on some remote sites with omni antennas and been
happy overall. I am considering what our next step should be for our major
5Ghz sites.  

 

These are ubnt M5 gear currently selling up to 15 Mbps. Most of these towers
will be fiber fed soon and I would like to start offering at least 25-50 meg
speed plans. I think either ePMP or Mimosa should be capable... 

 

I am interested to hear reports from operators using either platform to
offer these or higher speeds. Mimosa seems a bit of an immature product line
with maybe higher capacity, ePMP seems mature and stable. 

 

Chris Fabien

LakeNet LLC

 


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Re: [WISPA] ePMP vs Mimosa for 50Mbps+ Speed plans.

[Fred Goldstein]

On 10/6/2016 6:26 PM, Civano Coffee House wrote:


Even without TDMA on a Mimosa A5-14, and Cambium Force180 and Force 
200 CPE’s we have 23 customers with 100Mbit plans and have not  maxed 
it out, Customers don’t use the full bandwidth, but we were happy to 
sell it to them. They do a few speed tests and see the 100Mbits and 
are happy. We are also waiting for TDMA to start migrating over to the 
C5 CPE platform, till then everyone is happy.




Do they not have any TDMA (what AirMax is), or just not synchronous TDMA 
(GPS)? Absent TDMA, it becomes Wi-Fi, and all those hidden transmitters 
get in each others' way.


*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Michael W Rhone II

*Sent:* Thursday, October 06, 2016 2:22 PM
*To:* wireless@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ePMP vs Mimosa for 50Mbps+ Speed plans.

We sell 35mbs plans on M5 gear on a 20mhz channel. UBNT AC gear can 
easily do 50mbs plans on a 20mhz channel. If you keep everyone fully 
modulated, you could probably get away with a few 100mbs plans per 
sector. If you can get away with 40mhz channels, you can really move 
up the plan speeds. We are also moving away from sectors and using RF 
Elements Horn antennas.


We don't use epmp, so I'll let someone else comment on that. AFAIK 
though, Mimosa doesn't have TDMA working yet, so I can't recommend 
that until its ready. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


On 10/6/16 4:03 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote:

We are doing 25Mbps plans (slowest) up to 100 Mbps plans using
ePMP.  Feel free to contact me off list.

Chad

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Chris Fabien > wrote:

We have deployed 5Ghz ePMP on some remote sites with omni
antennas and been happy overall. I am considering what our
next step should be for our major 5Ghz sites.

These are ubnt M5 gear currently selling up to 15 Mbps. Most
of these towers will be fiber fed soon and I would like to
start offering at least 25-50 meg speed plans. I think either
ePMP or Mimosa should be capable...

I am interested to hear reports from operators using either
platform to offer these or higher speeds. Mimosa seems a bit
of an immature product line with maybe higher capacity, ePMP
seems mature and stable.

Chris Fabien

LakeNet LLC


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Re: [WISPA] ePMP vs Mimosa for 50Mbps+ Speed plans.

[Civano Coffee House]

Even without TDMA on a Mimosa A5-14, and Cambium Force180 and Force 200
CPE's we have 23 customers with 100Mbit plans and have not  maxed it out,
Customers don't use the full bandwidth, but we were happy to sell it to
them. They do a few speed tests and see the 100Mbits and are happy. We are
also waiting for TDMA to start migrating over to the C5 CPE platform, till
then everyone is happy.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Michael W Rhone II
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 2:22 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ePMP vs Mimosa for 50Mbps+ Speed plans.

 

We sell 35mbs plans on M5 gear on a 20mhz channel. UBNT AC gear can easily
do 50mbs plans on a 20mhz channel. If you keep everyone fully modulated, you
could probably get away with a few 100mbs plans per sector. If you can get
away with 40mhz channels, you can really move up the plan speeds. We are
also moving away from sectors and using RF Elements Horn antennas. 

We don't use epmp, so I'll let someone else comment on that. AFAIK though,
Mimosa doesn't have TDMA working yet, so I can't recommend that until its
ready. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. 

On 10/6/16 4:03 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote:

We are doing 25Mbps plans (slowest) up to 100 Mbps plans using ePMP.  Feel
free to contact me off list. 

 

Chad

 

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Chris Fabien  > wrote:

We have deployed 5Ghz ePMP on some remote sites with omni antennas and been
happy overall. I am considering what our next step should be for our major
5Ghz sites.  

 

These are ubnt M5 gear currently selling up to 15 Mbps. Most of these towers
will be fiber fed soon and I would like to start offering at least 25-50 meg
speed plans. I think either ePMP or Mimosa should be capable... 

 

I am interested to hear reports from operators using either platform to
offer these or higher speeds. Mimosa seems a bit of an immature product line
with maybe higher capacity, ePMP seems mature and stable. 

 

Chris Fabien

LakeNet LLC

 


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Re: [WISPA] ePMP vs Mimosa for 50Mbps+ Speed plans.

[Michael W Rhone II]

We sell 35mbs plans on M5 gear on a 20mhz channel. UBNT AC gear can 
easily do 50mbs plans on a 20mhz channel. If you keep everyone fully 
modulated, you could probably get away with a few 100mbs plans per 
sector. If you can get away with 40mhz channels, you can really move up 
the plan speeds. We are also moving away from sectors and using RF 
Elements Horn antennas.


We don't use epmp, so I'll let someone else comment on that. AFAIK 
though, Mimosa doesn't have TDMA working yet, so I can't recommend that 
until its ready. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


On 10/6/16 4:03 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote:
We are doing 25Mbps plans (slowest) up to 100 Mbps plans using ePMP.  
Feel free to contact me off list.


Chad

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Chris Fabien > wrote:


We have deployed 5Ghz ePMP on some remote sites with omni antennas
and been happy overall. I am considering what our next step should
be for our major 5Ghz sites.

These are ubnt M5 gear currently selling up to 15 Mbps. Most of
these towers will be fiber fed soon and I would like to start
offering at least 25-50 meg speed plans. I think either ePMP or
Mimosa should be capable...

I am interested to hear reports from operators using either
platform to offer these or higher speeds. Mimosa seems a bit of an
immature product line with maybe higher capacity, ePMP seems
mature and stable.

Chris Fabien
LakeNet LLC


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Re: [WISPA] ePMP vs Mimosa for 50Mbps+ Speed plans.

[Chadwick Wachs]

We are doing 25Mbps plans (slowest) up to 100 Mbps plans using ePMP.  Feel
free to contact me off list.

Chad

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Chris Fabien  wrote:

> We have deployed 5Ghz ePMP on some remote sites with omni antennas and
> been happy overall. I am considering what our next step should be for our
> major 5Ghz sites.
>
> These are ubnt M5 gear currently selling up to 15 Mbps. Most of these
> towers will be fiber fed soon and I would like to start offering at least
> 25-50 meg speed plans. I think either ePMP or Mimosa should be capable...
>
> I am interested to hear reports from operators using either platform to
> offer these or higher speeds. Mimosa seems a bit of an immature product
> line with maybe higher capacity, ePMP seems mature and stable.
>
> Chris Fabien
> LakeNet LLC
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[WISPA] ePMP vs Mimosa for 50Mbps+ Speed plans.

[Chris Fabien]

We have deployed 5Ghz ePMP on some remote sites with omni antennas and been
happy overall. I am considering what our next step should be for our major
5Ghz sites.

These are ubnt M5 gear currently selling up to 15 Mbps. Most of these
towers will be fiber fed soon and I would like to start offering at least
25-50 meg speed plans. I think either ePMP or Mimosa should be capable...

I am interested to hear reports from operators using either platform to
offer these or higher speeds. Mimosa seems a bit of an immature product
line with maybe higher capacity, ePMP seems mature and stable.

Chris Fabien
LakeNet LLC
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