date:20170118

Re: [WISPA] Best cat5 for a monopole

2017-01-18 Thread Clay Stewart

So far so good! The 16 port is just a switch, smaller ones are routers. The
16 is what we are using. powers 4 48vdc and 12-16 24vdc. Spring storm
season will tell. Considering the number of fried Netonics and Digital
Loggers over the years, with not just surge damage, but issues in
software... this caused the switch back about 6 months ago. Using Traco
power supply systems with battery backups and 110AC and DC surging, plus
UPS 110.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Chris Fabien  wrote:

> Has the edgepoint been rock solid for you? Thats my main concern with that
> approach. This tower is a difficult climb (its actually a light pole) so
> avoiding trips up top is ideal.
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2017 3:50 PM, "Clay Stewart"  stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
>
>> UBNT EdgePoint
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Because no SFP bro
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Jan 18, 2017 3:17 PM, "Clay Stewart" >> ces.com> wrote:
>>>
 We use UBNT Carrier. We have attached it to 1/8 cable for support. You
 do have to be careful not to tear the outer shield, as otherwise you will
 have water go into the cabinet.

 We now do not use cat5 on commercial towers, and have opted to a power
 cable with fiber. Why run 10-12 strands of cat5 when one strand of fiber
 does the job, with ESD?

 On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Chris Fabien 
 wrote:

> We are doing a deployment on a 90ft steel monopole where our cable
> will hang inside the pole. It seems like we should be using a better grade
> of cable than the Primus shielded cat5 we usually use for towers where it
> is taped to the leg. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks
> Chris Fabien
> LakeNet LLC
>
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Re: [WISPA] Best cat5 for a monopole

2017-01-18 Thread Faisal Imtiaz

Most of the good quality outdoor Ethernet cables have a 'strength tape' in the 
middle... 
UBNT Carrier has a nice piece of plastic in the middle... 
Shireen cable has a nice fiber tape .. 
etc etc. 

If you can tie these cables at the top securely, then there should be no issue 
is letting it dangle in the center of the monopole. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

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> From: "Chris Fabien" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 2:39:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best cat5 for a monopole

> Tips on what connectors to use? That looks like a very thick cable. Also how 
> to
> hang it at the top?

> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:31 PM, TJ Trout < t...@voltbb.com > wrote:

>> bbdge or bbdg6

>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Chris Fabien < ch...@lakenetmi.com > wrote:

>>> We are doing a deployment on a 90ft steel monopole where our cable will hang
>>> inside the pole. It seems like we should be using a better grade of cable 
>>> than
>>> the Primus shielded cat5 we usually use for towers where it is taped to the
>>> leg. Any suggestions?
>>> Thanks
>>> Chris Fabien
>>> LakeNet LLC

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Re: [WISPA] Best cat5 for a monopole

2017-01-18 Thread Chris Fabien

Has the edgepoint been rock solid for you? Thats my main concern with that
approach. This tower is a difficult climb (its actually a light pole) so
avoiding trips up top is ideal.


On Jan 18, 2017 3:50 PM, "Clay Stewart" <
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:

> UBNT EdgePoint
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Because no SFP bro
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2017 3:17 PM, "Clay Stewart" > ces.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We use UBNT Carrier. We have attached it to 1/8 cable for support. You
>>> do have to be careful not to tear the outer shield, as otherwise you will
>>> have water go into the cabinet.
>>>
>>> We now do not use cat5 on commercial towers, and have opted to a power
>>> cable with fiber. Why run 10-12 strands of cat5 when one strand of fiber
>>> does the job, with ESD?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Chris Fabien 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 We are doing a deployment on a 90ft steel monopole where our cable will
 hang inside the pole. It seems like we should be using a better grade of
 cable than the Primus shielded cat5 we usually use for towers where it is
 taped to the leg. Any suggestions?

 Thanks
 Chris Fabien
 LakeNet LLC


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Re: [WISPA] Best cat5 for a monopole

2017-01-18 Thread Clay Stewart

UBNT EdgePoint

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Because no SFP bro
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jan 18, 2017 3:17 PM, "Clay Stewart"  stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
>
>> We use UBNT Carrier. We have attached it to 1/8 cable for support. You do
>> have to be careful not to tear the outer shield, as otherwise you will have
>> water go into the cabinet.
>>
>> We now do not use cat5 on commercial towers, and have opted to a power
>> cable with fiber. Why run 10-12 strands of cat5 when one strand of fiber
>> does the job, with ESD?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Chris Fabien 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We are doing a deployment on a 90ft steel monopole where our cable will
>>> hang inside the pole. It seems like we should be using a better grade of
>>> cable than the Primus shielded cat5 we usually use for towers where it is
>>> taped to the leg. Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Chris Fabien
>>> LakeNet LLC
>>>
>>>
>>> ___
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>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Best cat5 for a monopole

2017-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman

Because no SFP bro

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 18, 2017 3:17 PM, "Clay Stewart" <
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:

> We use UBNT Carrier. We have attached it to 1/8 cable for support. You do
> have to be careful not to tear the outer shield, as otherwise you will have
> water go into the cabinet.
>
> We now do not use cat5 on commercial towers, and have opted to a power
> cable with fiber. Why run 10-12 strands of cat5 when one strand of fiber
> does the job, with ESD?
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Chris Fabien  wrote:
>
>> We are doing a deployment on a 90ft steel monopole where our cable will
>> hang inside the pole. It seems like we should be using a better grade of
>> cable than the Primus shielded cat5 we usually use for towers where it is
>> taped to the leg. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris Fabien
>> LakeNet LLC
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Best cat5 for a monopole

2017-01-18 Thread Clay Stewart

We use UBNT Carrier. We have attached it to 1/8 cable for support. You do
have to be careful not to tear the outer shield, as otherwise you will have
water go into the cabinet.

We now do not use cat5 on commercial towers, and have opted to a power
cable with fiber. Why run 10-12 strands of cat5 when one strand of fiber
does the job, with ESD?

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Chris Fabien  wrote:

> We are doing a deployment on a 90ft steel monopole where our cable will
> hang inside the pole. It seems like we should be using a better grade of
> cable than the Primus shielded cat5 we usually use for towers where it is
> taped to the leg. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks
> Chris Fabien
> LakeNet LLC
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Best cat5 for a monopole

2017-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman

You cut off the outer most plastic.  Then it's "normal size" cat5.  I
believe I used regular rj45 from a local supply back then.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Chris Fabien  wrote:

> Tips on what connectors to use? That looks like a very thick cable. Also
> how to hang it at the top?
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:31 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>
>> bbdge or bbdg6
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Chris Fabien 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We are doing a deployment on a 90ft steel monopole where our cable will
>>> hang inside the pole. It seems like we should be using a better grade of
>>> cable than the Primus shielded cat5 we usually use for towers where it is
>>> taped to the leg. Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Chris Fabien
>>> LakeNet LLC
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Best cat5 for a monopole

2017-01-18 Thread Chris Fabien

Tips on what connectors to use? That looks like a very thick cable. Also
how to hang it at the top?


On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:31 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

> bbdge or bbdg6
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Chris Fabien 
> wrote:
>
>> We are doing a deployment on a 90ft steel monopole where our cable will
>> hang inside the pole. It seems like we should be using a better grade of
>> cable than the Primus shielded cat5 we usually use for towers where it is
>> taped to the leg. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris Fabien
>> LakeNet LLC
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Best cat5 for a monopole

2017-01-18 Thread TJ Trout

bbdge or bbdg6

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Chris Fabien  wrote:

> We are doing a deployment on a 90ft steel monopole where our cable will
> hang inside the pole. It seems like we should be using a better grade of
> cable than the Primus shielded cat5 we usually use for towers where it is
> taped to the leg. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks
> Chris Fabien
> LakeNet LLC
>
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[WISPA] Best cat5 for a monopole

2017-01-18 Thread Chris Fabien

We are doing a deployment on a 90ft steel monopole where our cable will
hang inside the pole. It seems like we should be using a better grade of
cable than the Primus shielded cat5 we usually use for towers where it is
taped to the leg. Any suggestions?

Thanks
Chris Fabien
LakeNet LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Charge for remote thermostat?

2017-01-18 Thread Blair Davis


  
  
$9 per month
128Kb/s max
2GByte cap.
They pay full price for install and buy equipment.
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On 1/18/2017 6:53 AM, Mark Radabaugh
  wrote:


  
  We have a $5/mo vacation hold plan with no internet, and a $10/mo
  vacation monitoring plan that provides 256k.    It’s enough for
  the guys who want to look at a photo once in a while or check an
  alarm system / thermostat.
  
  
  We limit either plan to less than 6 months/year -
you have to be on a ‘normal’ plan the rest of the time.
  
  
  We used to let them suspend it for no charge but
that caused issues with us ‘forgetting’ the customer even
existed.  By having a charge for the suspended service we notice
if/when they stop paying.
  
  
  Mark
  

  
  



  
On Jan 17, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Jon Langeler
  
  wrote:


  Customer wants to have control of their
thermostat and heading south for 3-6 months. I'm
guessing they want a $5/mo connection. Suggestions on
how to handle or charge for this?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

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Re: [WISPA] Charge for remote thermostat?

2017-01-18 Thread Mark Radabaugh

We have a $5/mo vacation hold plan with no internet, and a $10/mo vacation 
monitoring plan that provides 256k.It’s enough for the guys who want to 
look at a photo once in a while or check an alarm system / thermostat.

We limit either plan to less than 6 months/year - you have to be on a ‘normal’ 
plan the rest of the time.

We used to let them suspend it for no charge but that caused issues with us 
‘forgetting’ the customer even existed.  By having a charge for the suspended 
service we notice if/when they stop paying.

Mark

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Jon Langeler  wrote:
> 
> Customer wants to have control of their thermostat and heading south for 3-6 
> months. I'm guessing they want a $5/mo connection. Suggestions on how to 
> handle or charge for this?
> 
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