[WISPA] Fwd: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-29 Thread mike . lyon 
Forwarded from another list...


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Sean Donelan 
> Date: September 29, 2017 at 20:07:47 PDT
> To: "na...@nanog.org" 
> Subject: Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of
> 
> 
> The situation reports from Puerto Rico seems to be getting passed through 
> public relations, so I'll try to add some context.
> 
> 
> Public Safety
>   Primary Public Safety Answering Point (9-1-1) center generator ran out of 
> diesel fuel.  Switched to alternate PSAP.
> 
>  San Juan Police Department has restored its radio repeaters and police radio 
> communications metro-wide. (translated from spanish, so I think I understood 
> the technical translation).
> 
> 
> 
> Landline Central Offices
>813,546 subscribers (CIA World Factbook)
> 
>390,000 subscribers in 52 municipalities with voice, data and long 
> distance (Claro)
> Repaired fiber optic cable conntecting CO's in Fajardo and Rio Grande.
> 
> 65% of inter-office Central Office connections restored island-wide.
> Remaining CO's have only local voice calling.
> 
> Optico Fiber reports most of its infrastructure is intact, and has open 
> WiFi hotspots outside its offices.
> 
> 
> Wireless services
>3,227,281 subscribers (CIA World Factbook)
> 
>29 municipalities have 0% working cell sites.  It appears carriers are 
> repairing one tower in each county/municipality to improve island-wide 
> coverage.  Several municipalities going from 0 to 1 cell site working.
> 
>310,000 subscribers in 28 municipalities with working cell towers (Claro)
> 
>34% of San Juan has working cell tower coverage (Claro)
> 
>Cell on Wheels in Ponce (4 mile radius) serving 6,000 calls per hour, 
> 35,000 texts per hour (AT)
> 
>Dorado, Tao Baja and Toa Alta have T-Mobile service (T-Mobile)
> 
> 
> I don't know what FCC and PRTRB are counting:
> 
>286 working cell sites out of 2671 (according to FCC report)
>96 working cell sites out of 1600 (according to PR Telecommunications 
> Regulatory Board report)
> 
>For context, the number of cell sites repaired each day since the end of 
> Hurricane Maria is improving slowly - average less than 20 sites a day, but 
> some days its negative, i.e. more cell towers failing than repaired.
> 
>On U.S. Virigin Islands, the number of cell sites out of service decreased 
> initially, but has slowly increased for the last 5 days.
> 
> I created a spreadsheet of the FCC wirelss outage data from hurricane Harvey, 
> Irma and Maria.
> 
> https://www.donelan.com/FCC-Wireless-Outages.xlsx
> 
> There is no consistent pattern between states, territories or hurricanes. 
> Florida had the fatest wireless restoration, average 500 cell sites restored 
> a day; while U.S. Virgin Islands averaged less than 1 cell site restored.  
> But Florida was mostly restoring the electrical grid, which restored lots of 
> cell sites.  Harvey was slow to start restoring cell sites, the tropical 
> storm lasted for days; but less than 6% of cell sites were out of service.
> 
> 
> Cable systems
> 
> First official report from Liberty Cable Puerto Rico
> 
> Most cable headends or in good condition, with backup generators. 
> Internet connection to international circuits reconnected. Main fiber trunk 
> between San Juan and Luquillo completed. Working to repair infrastructure and 
> primary services such as physical plant, main repeater bases, fiber optic 
> ring and fiber to distribution stations in neighborhoods. (LibertyPR)
> 
> 
> Satellite Services and Satellite Phones
> 
>   As more satellite phones are distributed, social media and news reporters 
> are saying satellite capacity is getting worse.  It may be user issues and 
> lack of training, or running out of satellite bandwidth in the area.
> 
>   American Red Cross driving a VSAT station between shelters, and setting up 
> temporary hotspots for an hour at each shelter so people can contact family 
> members.
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

2017-09-29 Thread Jon Langeler 
Apparently Tesla has made way to the island with Powerwalls and technicians. 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Sep 29, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:
> 
> Lol similar situation here… all hotels booked by FEMA/DHS staff… little 
> action 
> 
> From:  on behalf of Michael Meluskey 
> 
>  
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
> 
> 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Friday, September 29, 2017 at 12:50 PM
> To: WISPA General List 
> Cc: "memb...@wispa.org" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance
> 
> As are US Virgin Islanders.
> We have seen FEMA / DHS talk a big game in the VI, but they have accomplished 
> very little.  They did send the marines to clear a remote road on St. John.  
> No fuel help, no transport help.  But they have filled all our hotel rooms 
> and are enjoying room service and air conditioning.
> Mike - going on a diesel fuel run to a remote tower site
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:
>> 
>> Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens. 
>> 
>> The Internet is "critical infrastructure".  
>> 
>> Is there anything that WISPA can do in Washington D.C. to "remind" the FCC, 
>> FEMA and DHS of these facts and light a fire under their butts? 
>> 
>> jack
>> 
>>> On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>>> We are in touch with FEMA and DHS… but no help… 
>>> 
>>> From:  on behalf of Michael Meluskey 
>>> 
>>> Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>>> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
>>> To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>>> 
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as Gino.  We had double the 
>>> pleasure, Irma for St. Thomas and St. John, Maria for St. Croix.
>>> We are taking advantage of private relief aircraft for our critical 
>>> material.
>>> 
>>> Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA and DHS have people 
>>> dedicated to helping Telcos.  Gino needs to find these people and have them 
>>> ship down the gear he needs.
>>> 
>>> Mike Meluskey
>>> Broadband VI
>>> 
 
  
 
 Gino A. Villarini
 
 President
 Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
 
 
 On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:
 
 
  Forwarded Message 
 Subject:   Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
 Date:  Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400
 From:  Brian Webster 
 Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
 To:'WISPA General List' 
 
 Daniel,
 I am heading up the WECAT response for this. Please send 
 me an email to bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com. Gino Villarini is a large 
 WISP on the island who has requested help. The problem is logistics right 
 now. His replacement equipment is still stateside and we are working on 
 ways to get it to him. He has asked that I coordinate the manpower 
 resources and response. There are no scheduled commercial flights to the 
 island yet. Until he gets the equipment there,. Having people show up is 
 not prudent. He is working on a detailed manpower list for me once that 
 equipment hits the island.
  
 Thank You,
 Brian Webster
 www.wirelessmapping.com
 www.Broadband-Mapping.com
  
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Daniel K
 Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:10 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
  
 Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast 
 after Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under an organization called 
 RadioResponse, which I'm not finding much on now. 
  
 I spent several weeks with them in Mississippi helping set up phones, 
 communications, and computers for several of the shelters and helping some 
 of the local WISPs get back on their feet. 
  
 Does anyone know of anything similar for Puerto Rico? I don't have much 
 for resources but do have an authorized climber certification and a strong 
 electrical, mechanical, network, and WISP background that I'm sure could 
 benefit any similar effort if there is one.
  
  
 Thanks,
  
 Dan
  
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

2017-09-29 Thread Jon Langeler 
We send aid money to other countries. It seems like help nearby would be more 
'ready to go'.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Sep 29, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Jan-OOLLC  wrote:
> 
> I fail to understand why the Navy CBs haven't been deployed.  They are 
> trained and equipped for just such a project.  US citizens are now probably 
> dying while the emperor fiddles.  WIPS don't get the recognition we deserve 
> as service providers, we need laws that stop the big companies from trampling 
> over us and profiteering from our labor.  
> JV
> 
>> On 09/29/2017 09:38 AM, Coran, Steve wrote:
>> To the extent any WISPA member needs relief from FCC rules in an emergency 
>> situation (e.g., an STA to operate at variance from FCC licenses), that is 
>> something that we are prepared to do.  But, that need is not known right 
>> now.  I understand Gino is in contact with the feds on the ground in PR, and 
>> Mike Meluskey has reported that he is working with them in USVI.  Brian 
>> Webster and I are communicating about equipment delivery, but I’m not sure 
>> if that is a FEMA/DHS issue or not.  There is equipment stateside for Gino, 
>> we just need to get it there.  I know Brian is working hard on that, and 
>> I’ve tried as well.
>>  
>> Stephen E. Coran
>> Lerman Senter PLLC |2001 L Street, NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20036
>> 202-416-6744 (o) | 202-669-3288 (m) | sco...@lermansenter.com  |@stevecoran 
>> – twitter
>>  
>> From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Jack Unger
>> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 12:16 PM
>> To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>>  
>> Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.
>> 
>> The Internet is "critical infrastructure". 
>> 
>> Is there anything that WISPA can do in Washington D.C. to "remind" the FCC, 
>> FEMA and DHS of these facts and light a fire under their butts?
>> 
>> jack
>> 
>>  
>> On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>> We are in touch with FEMA and DHS… but no help… 
>>  
>> From:  on behalf of Michael Meluskey 
>> 
>> Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
>> To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>>  
>> Hi Guys,
>> Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as Gino.  We had double the 
>> pleasure, Irma for St. Thomas and St. John, Maria for St. Croix.
>> We are taking advantage of private relief aircraft for our critical material.
>>  
>> Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA and DHS have people dedicated 
>> to helping Telcos.  Gino needs to find these people and have them ship down 
>> the gear he needs.
>>  
>> Mike Meluskey
>> Broadband VI
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> 
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:
>>  
>> 
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> Subject:
>> Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>> Date:
>> Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400
>> From:
>> Brian Webster 
>> Reply-To:
>> WISPA General List 
>> To:
>> 'WISPA General List' 
>>  
>> 
>> Daniel,
>> I am heading up the WECAT response for this. Please send me 
>> an email to bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com. Gino Villarini is a large WISP on 
>> the island who has requested help. The problem is logistics right now. His 
>> replacement equipment is still stateside and we are working on ways to get 
>> it to him. He has asked that I coordinate the manpower resources and 
>> response. There are no scheduled commercial flights to the island yet. Until 
>> he gets the equipment there,. Having people show up is not prudent. He is 
>> working on a detailed manpower list for me once that equipment hits the 
>> island.
>>  
>> Thank You,
>> Brian Webster
>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>  
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Daniel K
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:10 PM
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Subject: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>>  
>> Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast after 
>> Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under an organization called 
>> RadioResponse, which I'm not finding much on now. 
>>  
>> I spent several weeks with them in Mississippi helping set up phones, 
>> communications, and computers for several of the shelters and helping some 
>> of the local WISPs get back on their feet. 
>>  
>> Does anyone know of anything similar for Puerto Rico? I don't have much for 
>> resources but do have an authorized climber certification and a strong 
>> electrical, mechanical, network, and WISP background that I'm sure

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

2017-09-29 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller 

Thanks for all you do Steve - you go above and beyond the call of duty.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Coran, Steve 
  To: memb...@wispa.org ; WISPA General List 
  Cc: Brian Webster (bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com) 
  Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 11:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance


  To the extent any WISPA member needs relief from FCC rules in an emergency 
situation (e.g., an STA to operate at variance from FCC licenses), that is 
something that we are prepared to do.  But, that need is not known right now.  
I understand Gino is in contact with the feds on the ground in PR, and Mike 
Meluskey has reported that he is working with them in USVI.  Brian Webster and 
I are communicating about equipment delivery, but I'm not sure if that is a 
FEMA/DHS issue or not.  There is equipment stateside for Gino, we just need to 
get it there.  I know Brian is working hard on that, and I've tried as well.



  Stephen E. Coran

  Lerman Senter PLLC |2001 L Street, NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20036

  202-416-6744 (o) | 202-669-3288 (m) | sco...@lermansenter.com  |@stevecoran - 
twitter



  From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jack Unger
  Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 12:16 PM
  To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance



  Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens. 

  The Internet is "critical infrastructure".  

  Is there anything that WISPA can do in Washington D.C. to "remind" the FCC, 
FEMA and DHS of these facts and light a fire under their butts? 

  jack



  On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

We are in touch with FEMA and DHS. but no help. 



From:  on behalf of Michael Meluskey 

Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance



Hi Guys, 

Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as Gino.  We had double the 
pleasure, Irma for St. Thomas and St. John, Maria for St. Croix.

We are taking advantage of private relief aircraft for our critical 
material.



Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA and DHS have people 
dedicated to helping Telcos.  Gino needs to find these people and have them 
ship down the gear he needs.



Mike Meluskey

Broadband VI





Gino A. Villarini
   
President
   
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
   



  On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:




   Forwarded Message  

Subject:
   Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
   
Date:
   Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400
   
From:
   Brian Webster 
   
Reply-To:
   WISPA General List 
   
To:
   'WISPA General List' 
   



  Daniel,

  I am heading up the WECAT response for this. Please send 
me an email to bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com. Gino Villarini is a large WISP on 
the island who has requested help. The problem is logistics right now. His 
replacement equipment is still stateside and we are working on ways to get it 
to him. He has asked that I coordinate the manpower resources and response. 
There are no scheduled commercial flights to the island yet. Until he gets the 
equipment there,. Having people show up is not prudent. He is working on a 
detailed manpower list for me once that equipment hits the island.



  Thank You,

  Brian Webster

  www.wirelessmapping.com

  www.Broadband-Mapping.com



  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Daniel K
  Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:10 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance



  Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast 
after Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under an organization called 
RadioResponse, which I'm not finding much on now. 



  I spent several weeks with them in Mississippi helping set up phones, 
communications, and computers for several of the shelters and helping some of 
the local WISPs get back on their feet. 



  Does anyone know of anything similar for Puerto Rico? I don't have much 
for resources but do have an authorized climber certification and a strong 
electrical, mechanical, network, and WISP background that I'm sure could 
benefit any similar effort if there is one.





  Thanks,



  Dan



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Re: [WISPA] POE splitter for ToughSwitch

2017-09-29 Thread Rick Boucher 
Thanks for the feed back.  Will be re-evaluating the installs.

Rick
-


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Orcas Online / San Juan Web  
(360) 376-6411
http://www.orcasonline.com 
http://www.sanjuanweb.com
The information source for the San Juan Islands



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I have so much to do that I shall spend the first three hours in prayer."
- Martin Luther


> On Sep 29, 2017, at 7:06 AM, Clay Stewart  wrote:
> 
> Rick, on your issue, the ToughSwitch is a UBNT failed product in my opinion. 
> They do not hold up with ESDs or worse, and have issues with Flow Control. No 
> company has a perfect line of products, there is always going to be one need 
> improvement here and there, or dropped. The EdgePoints are EdgeSwitch or 
> EdgeRouter based. We use the 16 port EdgeSwitched based one. We also use 
> quite a bit of Netonixs where we drop lines down to the base of towers. But 
> the EdgePoints allow an easy solution for running fiber up to the top and 
> removing ESD potential while having a clean outdoor mount with low wind load 
> for any size tower.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:38 AM, James Wilson  wrote:
> I for one am disappointed in the new switches and routers.  My head is full 
> of command line commands and options from decades of different devices and 
> OSs.  I want GUIs from now on!
> 
> And I want the same look and feel across Ubiquiti devices!
> 
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Clay Stewart  
> wrote:
> Opposite experience here. Then a lot has changed in last few years, like the 
> latest> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-infinity/
> 
> The biggest issue I have seen over the years is people not learning the CLI 
> and resulting capability.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:02 AM, David Funderburk  
> wrote:
> How long have you had the EdgePoint in service? We had deployed a number of 
> Ubiquiti routers but ended up pulling them all out.  Once they were in 
> service a little over a year we had MANY ghost issues crop up with them.  Our 
> latency went down and stability went up after removing them. 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David Funderburk
> GlobalVision
> 864-569-0703
> On 29/09/2017 08:39, Clay Stewart wrote:
> 
>> Consider an EdgePoint, we have not lost one and have deployed many. Powered 
>> by cat5 or wires. A real switch.
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Rick Boucher  
>> wrote:
>> Looking for a good POE splitter to power up a ToughSwitch POE on n install 
>> about 75ft up.
>> 
>> Source inserts power at base (in house) then powers ToughSwitchPOE on Roof. 
>> ToughSwitch then powers 4 UBNT 24V devices (maybe 5)
>> 
>> Anyone using a good splitter for powering the TSPOE?
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> -
>> 
>> 
>> Rick Boucher
>> Webmaster / Systems Admin
>> Orcas Online / San Juan Web
>> (360) 376-6411
>> http://www.orcasonline.com
>> http://www.sanjuanweb.com
>> The information source for the San Juan Islands
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Plans for the next day - "Work, work from early to late. In fact
>> I have so much to do that I shall spend the first three hours in prayer."
>> - Martin Luther
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

2017-09-29 Thread Josh Luthman 
FEMA is booking the hotel rooms but not helping.  That makes it rough.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Gino A. Villarini 
wrote:

> Lol similar situation here… all hotels booked by FEMA/DHS staff… little
> action
>
> From:  on behalf of Michael Meluskey <
> m...@broadband.vi>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Friday, September 29, 2017 at 12:50 PM
> To: WISPA General List 
> Cc: "memb...@wispa.org" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance
>
> As are US Virgin Islanders.
> We have seen FEMA / DHS talk a big game in the VI, but they have
> accomplished very little.  They did send the marines to clear a remote road
> on St. John.  No fuel help, no transport help.  But they have filled all
> our hotel rooms and are enjoying room service and air conditioning.
> Mike - going on a diesel fuel run to a remote tower site
>
> On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:
>
> Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.
>
> The Internet is "critical infrastructure".
>
> Is there anything that WISPA can do in Washington D.C. to "remind" the
> FCC, FEMA and DHS of these facts and light a fire under their butts?
>
> jack
>
> On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>
> We are in touch with FEMA and DHS… but no help…
>
> From:  on behalf of Michael Meluskey <
> m...@broadband.vi>
> Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
> To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>
> Hi Guys,
> Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as Gino.  We had double the
> pleasure, Irma for St. Thomas and St. John, Maria for St. Croix.
> We are taking advantage of private relief aircraft for our critical
> material.
>
> Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA and DHS have people
> dedicated to helping Telcos.  Gino needs to find these people and have them
> ship down the gear he needs.
>
> Mike Meluskey
> Broadband VI
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> 
> On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:
>
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400
> From: Brian Webster  
> Reply-To: WISPA General List  
> To: 'WISPA General List'  
>
> Daniel,
> I am heading up the WECAT response for this. Please send
> me an email to bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com. Gino Villarini is a large
> WISP on the island who has requested help. The problem is logistics right
> now. His replacement equipment is still stateside and we are working on
> ways to get it to him. He has asked that I coordinate the manpower
> resources and response. There are no scheduled commercial flights to the
> island yet. Until he gets the equipment there,. Having people show up is
> not prudent. He is working on a detailed manpower list for me once that
> equipment hits the island.
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Daniel K
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:10 PM
> *To:* wireless@wispa.org
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>
> Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast
> after Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under an organization called
> RadioResponse, which I'm not finding much on now.
>
> I spent several weeks with them in Mississippi helping set up phones,
> communications, and computers for several of the shelters and helping some
> of the local WISPs get back on their feet.
>
> Does anyone know of anything similar for Puerto Rico? I don't have much
> for resources but do have an authorized climber certification and a strong
> electrical, mechanical, network, and WISP background that I'm sure could
> benefit any similar effort if there is one.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
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> Serving the WISP Community since 1993760-678-5033

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

2017-09-29 Thread Jan-OOLLC 
I fail to understand why the Navy CBs haven't been deployed. They are 
trained and equipped for just such a project.  US citizens are now 
probably dying while the emperor fiddles.  WIPS don't get the 
recognition we deserve as service providers, we need laws that stop the 
big companies from trampling over us and profiteering from our labor.


JV

On 09/29/2017 09:38 AM, Coran, Steve wrote:


To the extent any WISPA member needs relief from FCC rules in an 
emergency situation (e.g., an STA to operate at variance from FCC 
licenses), that is something that we are prepared to do.  But, that 
need is not known right now.  I understand Gino is in contact with the 
feds on the ground in PR, and Mike Meluskey has reported that he is 
working with them in USVI.  Brian Webster and I are communicating 
about equipment delivery, but I’m not sure if that is a FEMA/DHS issue 
or not.  There is equipment stateside for Gino, we just need to get it 
there.  I know Brian is working hard on that, and I’ve tried as well.


Stephen E. Coran

Lerman Senter PLLC  *|*2001 L Street, 
NW, Suite 400 *|*Washington, DC 20036


202-416-6744 (o) *|* 202-669-3288 (m) *| *sco...@lermansenter.com 
 *|*@stevecoran – twitter


*From:*members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Jack Unger

*Sent:* Friday, September 29, 2017 12:16 PM
*To:* memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.

The Internet is "critical infrastructure".

Is there anything that WISPA can do in Washington D.C. to "remind" the 
FCC, FEMA and DHS of these facts and light a fire under their butts?


jack

On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

We are in touch with FEMA and DHS… but no help…

*From: *> on behalf of Michael Meluskey
>
*Reply-To: *"memb...@wispa.org "
>
*Date: *Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
*To: *"memb...@wispa.org "
>
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

Hi Guys,

Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as Gino.  We had double
the pleasure, Irma for St. Thomas and St. John, Maria for St. Croix.

We are taking advantage of private relief aircraft for our
critical material.

Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA and DHS have people
dedicated to helping Telcos.  Gino needs to find these people and
have them ship down the gear he needs.

Mike Meluskey

Broadband VI

/*Gino A. Villarini*/

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger > wrote:


 Forwarded Message 

*Subject:*



Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

*Date:*



Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400

*From:*



Brian Webster


*Reply-To:*



WISPA General List 

*To:*



'WISPA General List'


Daniel,

I am heading up the WECAT response for this. Please send me an
email tobwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
. Gino Villarini is a
large WISP on the island who has requested help. The problem
is logistics right now. His replacement equipment is still
stateside and we are working on ways to get it to him. He has
asked that I coordinate the manpower resources and response.
There are no scheduled commercial flights to the island yet.
Until he gets the equipment there,. Having people show up is
not prudent. He is working on a detailed manpower list for me
once that equipment hits the island.

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com 

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]*On
Behalf Of*Daniel K
*Sent:*Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:10 PM
*To:*wireless@wispa.org 
*Subject:*[WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the
gulf coast after Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under
an organization called

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

2017-09-29 Thread Gino A. Villarini 
Lol similar situation here… all hotels booked by FEMA/DHS staff… little action

From: > on behalf 
of Michael Meluskey >



Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Reply-To: WISPA General List >
Date: Friday, September 29, 2017 at 12:50 PM
To: WISPA General List >
Cc: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

As are US Virgin Islanders.
We have seen FEMA / DHS talk a big game in the VI, but they have accomplished 
very little.  They did send the marines to clear a remote road on St. John.  No 
fuel help, no transport help.  But they have filled all our hotel rooms and are 
enjoying room service and air conditioning.
Mike - going on a diesel fuel run to a remote tower site

On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Jack Unger 
> wrote:


Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.

The Internet is "critical infrastructure".

Is there anything that WISPA can do in Washington D.C. to "remind" the FCC, 
FEMA and DHS of these facts and light a fire under their butts?

jack

On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
We are in touch with FEMA and DHS… but no help…

From: > on behalf 
of Michael Meluskey >
Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>
Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

Hi Guys,
Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as Gino.  We had double the pleasure, 
Irma for St. Thomas and St. John, Maria for St. Croix.
We are taking advantage of private relief aircraft for our critical material.

Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA and DHS have people dedicated to 
helping Telcos.  Gino needs to find these people and have them ship down the 
gear he needs.

Mike Meluskey
Broadband VI




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger 
> wrote:


 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
Date:   Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400
From:   Brian Webster 

Reply-To:   WISPA General List 

To: 'WISPA General List' 


Daniel,
I am heading up the WECAT response for this. Please send me an 
email to bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com. 
Gino Villarini is a large WISP on the island who has requested help. The 
problem is logistics right now. His replacement equipment is still stateside 
and we are working on ways to get it to him. He has asked that I coordinate the 
manpower resources and response. There are no scheduled commercial flights to 
the island yet. Until he gets the equipment there,. Having people show up is 
not prudent. He is working on a detailed manpower list for me once that 
equipment hits the island.

Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:10 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast after 
Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under an organization called 
RadioResponse, which I'm not finding much on now.

I spent several weeks with them in Mississippi helping set up phones, 
communications, and computers for several of the shelters and helping some of 
the local WISPs get back on their feet.

Does anyone know of anything similar for Puerto Rico? I don't have much for 
resources but do have an authorized climber certification and a strong 
electrical, mechanical, network, and WISP background that I'm sure could 
benefit any similar effort if there is one.


Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

2017-09-29 Thread Gino A. Villarini 
FEMA / DHS have been worthless in helping us out …

From: > on behalf 
of Steve Coran >
Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>
Date: Friday, September 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM
To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>, WISPA General List 
>
Cc: "bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com" 
>
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

To the extent any WISPA member needs relief from FCC rules in an emergency 
situation (e.g., an STA to operate at variance from FCC licenses), that is 
something that we are prepared to do.  But, that need is not known right now.  
I understand Gino is in contact with the feds on the ground in PR, and Mike 
Meluskey has reported that he is working with them in USVI.  Brian Webster and 
I are communicating about equipment delivery, but I’m not sure if that is a 
FEMA/DHS issue or not.  There is equipment stateside for Gino, we just need to 
get it there.  I know Brian is working hard on that, and I’ve tried as well.

Stephen E. Coran
Lerman Senter PLLC|2001 L Street, NW, Suite 400 | 
Washington, DC 20036
202-416-6744 (o) | 202-669-3288 (m) | 
sco...@lermansenter.com  |@stevecoran – twitter

From: members-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 12:16 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance


Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.

The Internet is "critical infrastructure".

Is there anything that WISPA can do in Washington D.C. to "remind" the FCC, 
FEMA and DHS of these facts and light a fire under their butts?

jack




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
We are in touch with FEMA and DHS… but no help…

From: > on behalf 
of Michael Meluskey >
Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>
Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

Hi Guys,
Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as Gino.  We had double the pleasure, 
Irma for St. Thomas and St. John, Maria for St. Croix.
We are taking advantage of private relief aircraft for our critical material.

Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA and DHS have people dedicated to 
helping Telcos.  Gino needs to find these people and have them ship down the 
gear he needs.

Mike Meluskey
Broadband VI




Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


[cid:image001.png@01D3391F.D5B6C210]
On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger 
> wrote:


 Forwarded Message 
Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

Date:

Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400

From:

Brian Webster 

Reply-To:

WISPA General List 

To:

'WISPA General List' 


Daniel,
I am heading up the WECAT response for this. Please send me an 
email to bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com. 
Gino Villarini is a large WISP on the island who has requested help. The 
problem is logistics right now. His replacement equipment is still stateside 
and we are working on ways to get it to him. He has asked that I coordinate the 
manpower resources and response. There are no scheduled commercial flights to 
the island yet. Until he gets the equipment there,. Having people show up is 
not prudent. He is working on a detailed manpower list for me once that 
equipment hits the island.

Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:10 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast after 
Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

2017-09-29 Thread Coran, Steve 
To the extent any WISPA member needs relief from FCC rules in an emergency 
situation (e.g., an STA to operate at variance from FCC licenses), that is 
something that we are prepared to do.  But, that need is not known right now.  
I understand Gino is in contact with the feds on the ground in PR, and Mike 
Meluskey has reported that he is working with them in USVI.  Brian Webster and 
I are communicating about equipment delivery, but I'm not sure if that is a 
FEMA/DHS issue or not.  There is equipment stateside for Gino, we just need to 
get it there.  I know Brian is working hard on that, and I've tried as well.

Stephen E. Coran
Lerman Senter PLLC |2001 L Street, NW, Suite 400 
| Washington, DC 20036
202-416-6744 (o) | 202-669-3288 (m) | 
sco...@lermansenter.com  |@stevecoran - twitter

From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
Jack Unger
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 12:16 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance


Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.

The Internet is "critical infrastructure".

Is there anything that WISPA can do in Washington D.C. to "remind" the FCC, 
FEMA and DHS of these facts and light a fire under their butts?

jack

On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
We are in touch with FEMA and DHS... but no help...

From: > on behalf 
of Michael Meluskey >
Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>
Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

Hi Guys,
Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as Gino.  We had double the pleasure, 
Irma for St. Thomas and St. John, Maria for St. Croix.
We are taking advantage of private relief aircraft for our critical material.

Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA and DHS have people dedicated to 
helping Telcos.  Gino needs to find these people and have them ship down the 
gear he needs.

Mike Meluskey
Broadband VI




Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


[cid:image001.png@01D3391F.D5B6C210]
On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger 
> wrote:


 Forwarded Message 
Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

Date:

Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400

From:

Brian Webster 

Reply-To:

WISPA General List 

To:

'WISPA General List' 


Daniel,
I am heading up the WECAT response for this. Please send me an 
email to bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com. 
Gino Villarini is a large WISP on the island who has requested help. The 
problem is logistics right now. His replacement equipment is still stateside 
and we are working on ways to get it to him. He has asked that I coordinate the 
manpower resources and response. There are no scheduled commercial flights to 
the island yet. Until he gets the equipment there,. Having people show up is 
not prudent. He is working on a detailed manpower list for me once that 
equipment hits the island.

Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:10 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast after 
Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under an organization called 
RadioResponse, which I'm not finding much on now.

I spent several weeks with them in Mississippi helping set up phones, 
communications, and computers for several of the shelters and helping some of 
the local WISPs get back on their feet.

Does anyone know of anything similar for Puerto Rico? I don't have much for 
resources but do have an authorized climber certification and a strong 
electrical, mechanical, network, and WISP background that I'm sure could 
benefit any similar effort if there is one.


Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [WISPA] POE splitter for ToughSwitch

2017-09-29 Thread RickG 
I almost switched to the UBNT Infinity. So you're liking them Clay?

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Clay Stewart 
wrote:

> Opposite experience here. Then a lot has changed in last few years, like
> the latest> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-infinity/
>
> The biggest issue I have seen over the years is people not learning the
> CLI and resulting capability.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:02 AM, David Funderburk 
> wrote:
>
>> How long have you had the EdgePoint in service? We had deployed a number
>> of Ubiquiti routers but ended up pulling them all out.  Once they were in
>> service a little over a year we had MANY ghost issues crop up with them.
>> Our latency went down and stability went up after removing them.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> David Funderburk
>> GlobalVision
>> 864-569-0703 <(864)%20569-0703>
>>
>> On 29/09/2017 08:39, Clay Stewart wrote:
>>
>> Consider an EdgePoint, we have not lost one and have deployed many.
>> Powered by cat5 or wires. A real switch.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Rick Boucher 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for a good POE splitter to power up a ToughSwitch POE on n
>>> install about 75ft up.
>>>
>>> Source inserts power at base (in house) then powers ToughSwitchPOE on
>>> Roof. ToughSwitch then powers 4 UBNT 24V devices (maybe 5)
>>>
>>> Anyone using a good splitter for powering the TSPOE?
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick Boucher
>>> Webmaster / Systems Admin
>>> Orcas Online / San Juan Web
>>> (360) 376-6411
>>> http://www.orcasonline.com
>>> http://www.sanjuanweb.com
>>> The information source for the San Juan Islands
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Plans for the next day - "Work, work from early to late. In fact
>>> I have so much to do that I shall spend the first three hours in prayer."
>>> - Martin Luther
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] POE splitter for ToughSwitch

2017-09-29 Thread RickG 
I like the Edgepoints but it's hard to give up Netonix switches!

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Clay Stewart 
wrote:

> Consider an EdgePoint, we have not lost one and have deployed many.
> Powered by cat5 or wires. A real switch.
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Rick Boucher 
> wrote:
>
>> Looking for a good POE splitter to power up a ToughSwitch POE on n
>> install about 75ft up.
>>
>> Source inserts power at base (in house) then powers ToughSwitchPOE on
>> Roof. ToughSwitch then powers 4 UBNT 24V devices (maybe 5)
>>
>> Anyone using a good splitter for powering the TSPOE?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>> Rick Boucher
>> Webmaster / Systems Admin
>> Orcas Online / San Juan Web
>> (360) 376-6411
>> http://www.orcasonline.com
>> http://www.sanjuanweb.com
>> The information source for the San Juan Islands
>>
>>
>>
>> Plans for the next day - "Work, work from early to late. In fact
>> I have so much to do that I shall spend the first three hours in prayer."
>> - Martin Luther
>>
>>
>> ___
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>> Wireless@wispa.org
>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

2017-09-29 Thread Mike Meluskey 
As are US Virgin Islanders.
We have seen FEMA / DHS talk a big game in the VI, but they have accomplished 
very little.  They did send the marines to clear a remote road on St. John.  No 
fuel help, no transport help.  But they have filled all our hotel rooms and are 
enjoying room service and air conditioning.
Mike - going on a diesel fuel run to a remote tower site

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:
> 
> Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens. 
> 
> The Internet is "critical infrastructure".  
> 
> Is there anything that WISPA can do in Washington D.C. to "remind" the FCC, 
> FEMA and DHS of these facts and light a fire under their butts? 
> 
> jack
> 
> On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>> We are in touch with FEMA and DHS… but no help… 
>> 
>> From: > on 
>> behalf of Michael Meluskey >
>> Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org " > >
>> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
>> To: "memb...@wispa.org " > >
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>> 
>> Hi Guys,
>> Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as Gino.  We had double the 
>> pleasure, Irma for St. Thomas and St. John, Maria for St. Croix.
>> We are taking advantage of private relief aircraft for our critical material.
>> 
>> Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA and DHS have people dedicated 
>> to helping Telcos.  Gino needs to find these people and have them ship down 
>> the gear he needs.
>> 
>> Mike Meluskey
>> Broadband VI
>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> 
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Forwarded Message 
>>> Subject:Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>>> Date:   Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400
>>> From:   Brian Webster  
>>> 
>>> Reply-To:   WISPA General List  
>>> 
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'  
>>> 
>>> Daniel,
>>> I am heading up the WECAT response for this. Please send me 
>>> an email to bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com 
>>> . Gino Villarini is a large WISP on 
>>> the island who has requested help. The problem is logistics right now. His 
>>> replacement equipment is still stateside and we are working on ways to get 
>>> it to him. He has asked that I coordinate the manpower resources and 
>>> response. There are no scheduled commercial flights to the island yet. 
>>> Until he gets the equipment there,. Having people show up is not prudent. 
>>> He is working on a detailed manpower list for me once that equipment hits 
>>> the island.
>>>  
>>> Thank You,
>>> Brian Webster
>>> www.wirelessmapping.com 
>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com 
>>>  
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org  
>>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
>>> Behalf Of Daniel K
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:10 PM
>>> To: wireless@wispa.org 
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>>>  
>>> Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast after 
>>> Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under an organization called 
>>> RadioResponse, which I'm not finding much on now. 
>>>  
>>> I spent several weeks with them in Mississippi helping set up phones, 
>>> communications, and computers for several of the shelters and helping some 
>>> of the local WISPs get back on their feet. 
>>>  
>>> Does anyone know of anything similar for Puerto Rico? I don't have much for 
>>> resources but do have an authorized climber certification and a strong 
>>> electrical, mechanical, network, and WISP background that I'm sure could 
>>> benefit any similar effort if there is one.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>>  
>>> Dan
>>>  
>>> ___
>>> Members mailing list
>>> memb...@wispa.org 
>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

2017-09-29 Thread Jack Unger 

  
  
Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens. 
  
The Internet is "critical infrastructure". 

  
Is there anything that WISPA can do in
Washington D.C. to "remind" the FCC, FEMA and DHS of these facts
and light a fire under their butts? 
  
jack


On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini
  wrote:


  
  We are in touch with FEMA and DHS… but no help… 
  
  
  

  From:  on
  behalf of Michael Meluskey 
  Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org"
  
  Date: Wednesday,
  September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
  To: "memb...@wispa.org"
  
  Subject: Re: [WISPA
  Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance




  
Hi Guys,
Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as
  Gino.  We had double the pleasure, Irma for St. Thomas and
  St. John, Maria for St. Croix.
We are taking advantage of private relief
  aircraft for our critical material.


Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA
  and DHS have people dedicated to helping Telcos.  Gino
  needs to find these people and have them ship down the
  gear he needs.


Mike Meluskey
Broadband VI

  

  

  

  

   
  Gino A. Villarini

  
  
President
  
  
Metro
Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo,
Puerto Rico 00968
  

  


On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger 
wrote:
  
  

  
   Forwarded Message 
  

  
Subject:
Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico
  assistance
  
  
Date:
Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400
  
  
From:
Brian Webster 
  
  
Reply-To:
WISPA General List 
  
  
To:
'WISPA General List' 
  

  
  
  
  

  Daniel,

      I am heading
up the WECAT response for this. Please send
me an email to bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com.
Gino Villarini is a large WISP on the island
who has requested help. The problem is
logistics right now. His replacement
equipment is still stateside and we are
working on ways to get it to him. He has
asked that I coordinate the manpower
resources and response. There are no
scheduled commercial flights to the island
yet. Until he gets the equipment there,.
Having people show up is not prudent. He is
working on a detailed manpower list for me
once that equipment hits the island.

   

  Thank You,

  Brian Webster

  www.wirelessmapping.com

  www.Broadband-Mapping.com

   

Re: [WISPA] POE splitter for ToughSwitch

2017-09-29 Thread Clay Stewart 
Rick, on your issue, the ToughSwitch is a UBNT failed product in my
opinion. They do not hold up with ESDs or worse, and have issues with Flow
Control. No company has a perfect line of products, there is always going
to be one need improvement here and there, or dropped. The EdgePoints are
EdgeSwitch or EdgeRouter based. We use the 16 port EdgeSwitched based one.
We also use quite a bit of Netonixs where we drop lines down to the base of
towers. But the EdgePoints allow an easy solution for running fiber up to
the top and removing ESD potential while having a clean outdoor mount with
low wind load for any size tower.

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:38 AM, James Wilson  wrote:

> I for one am disappointed in the new switches and routers.  My head is
> full of command line commands and options from decades of different devices
> and OSs.  I want GUIs from now on!
>
> And I want the same look and feel across Ubiquiti devices!
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Clay Stewart 
> wrote:
>
>> Opposite experience here. Then a lot has changed in last few years, like
>> the latest> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-infinity/
>>
>> The biggest issue I have seen over the years is people not learning the
>> CLI and resulting capability.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:02 AM, David Funderburk > > wrote:
>>
>>> How long have you had the EdgePoint in service? We had deployed a number
>>> of Ubiquiti routers but ended up pulling them all out.  Once they were in
>>> service a little over a year we had MANY ghost issues crop up with them.
>>> Our latency went down and stability went up after removing them.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> David Funderburk
>>> GlobalVision
>>> 864-569-0703 <(864)%20569-0703>
>>>
>>> On 29/09/2017 08:39, Clay Stewart wrote:
>>>
>>> Consider an EdgePoint, we have not lost one and have deployed many.
>>> Powered by cat5 or wires. A real switch.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Rick Boucher 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Looking for a good POE splitter to power up a ToughSwitch POE on n
 install about 75ft up.

 Source inserts power at base (in house) then powers ToughSwitchPOE on
 Roof. ToughSwitch then powers 4 UBNT 24V devices (maybe 5)

 Anyone using a good splitter for powering the TSPOE?

 Rick

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 Orcas Online / San Juan Web
 (360) 376-6411
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Re: [WISPA] POE splitter for ToughSwitch

2017-09-29 Thread James Wilson 
I for one am disappointed in the new switches and routers.  My head is full
of command line commands and options from decades of different devices and
OSs.  I want GUIs from now on!

And I want the same look and feel across Ubiquiti devices!

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Clay Stewart 
wrote:

> Opposite experience here. Then a lot has changed in last few years, like
> the latest> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-infinity/
>
> The biggest issue I have seen over the years is people not learning the
> CLI and resulting capability.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:02 AM, David Funderburk 
> wrote:
>
>> How long have you had the EdgePoint in service? We had deployed a number
>> of Ubiquiti routers but ended up pulling them all out.  Once they were in
>> service a little over a year we had MANY ghost issues crop up with them.
>> Our latency went down and stability went up after removing them.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> David Funderburk
>> GlobalVision
>> 864-569-0703 <(864)%20569-0703>
>>
>> On 29/09/2017 08:39, Clay Stewart wrote:
>>
>> Consider an EdgePoint, we have not lost one and have deployed many.
>> Powered by cat5 or wires. A real switch.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Rick Boucher 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for a good POE splitter to power up a ToughSwitch POE on n
>>> install about 75ft up.
>>>
>>> Source inserts power at base (in house) then powers ToughSwitchPOE on
>>> Roof. ToughSwitch then powers 4 UBNT 24V devices (maybe 5)
>>>
>>> Anyone using a good splitter for powering the TSPOE?
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick Boucher
>>> Webmaster / Systems Admin
>>> Orcas Online / San Juan Web
>>> (360) 376-6411
>>> http://www.orcasonline.com
>>> http://www.sanjuanweb.com
>>> The information source for the San Juan Islands
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Plans for the next day - "Work, work from early to late. In fact
>>> I have so much to do that I shall spend the first three hours in prayer."
>>> - Martin Luther
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] POE splitter for ToughSwitch

2017-09-29 Thread Clay Stewart 
Opposite experience here. Then a lot has changed in last few years, like
the latest> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-infinity/

The biggest issue I have seen over the years is people not learning the CLI
and resulting capability.



On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:02 AM, David Funderburk 
wrote:

> How long have you had the EdgePoint in service? We had deployed a number
> of Ubiquiti routers but ended up pulling them all out.  Once they were in
> service a little over a year we had MANY ghost issues crop up with them.
> Our latency went down and stability went up after removing them.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Funderburk
> GlobalVision
> 864-569-0703 <(864)%20569-0703>
>
> On 29/09/2017 08:39, Clay Stewart wrote:
>
> Consider an EdgePoint, we have not lost one and have deployed many.
> Powered by cat5 or wires. A real switch.
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Rick Boucher 
> wrote:
>
>> Looking for a good POE splitter to power up a ToughSwitch POE on n
>> install about 75ft up.
>>
>> Source inserts power at base (in house) then powers ToughSwitchPOE on
>> Roof. ToughSwitch then powers 4 UBNT 24V devices (maybe 5)
>>
>> Anyone using a good splitter for powering the TSPOE?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>> Rick Boucher
>> Webmaster / Systems Admin
>> Orcas Online / San Juan Web
>> (360) 376-6411
>> http://www.orcasonline.com
>> http://www.sanjuanweb.com
>> The information source for the San Juan Islands
>>
>>
>>
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>> I have so much to do that I shall spend the first three hours in prayer."
>> - Martin Luther
>>
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Re: [WISPA] POE splitter for ToughSwitch

2017-09-29 Thread David Funderburk 
 

How long have you had the EdgePoint in service? We had deployed a number
of Ubiquiti routers but ended up pulling them all out. Once they were in
service a little over a year we had MANY ghost issues crop up with them.
Our latency went down and stability went up after removing them. 

 Regards,

 David Funderburk
 GlobalVision
 864-569-0703 

On 29/09/2017 08:39, Clay Stewart wrote: 

> Consider an EdgePoint, we have not lost one and have deployed many. Powered 
> by cat5 or wires. A real switch. 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Rick Boucher  wrote:
> 
>> Looking for a good POE splitter to power up a ToughSwitch POE on n install 
>> about 75ft up.
>> 
>> Source inserts power at base (in house) then powers ToughSwitchPOE on Roof. 
>> ToughSwitch then powers 4 UBNT 24V devices (maybe 5)
>> 
>> Anyone using a good splitter for powering the TSPOE?
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> -
>> 
>> Rick Boucher
>> Webmaster / Systems Admin
>> Orcas Online / San Juan Web
>> (360) 376-6411 [1]
>> http://www.orcasonline.com [2]
>> http://www.sanjuanweb.com [3]
>> The information source for the San Juan Islands
>> 
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>> I have so much to do that I shall spend the first three hours in prayer."
>> - Martin Luther
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Re: [WISPA] POE splitter for ToughSwitch

2017-09-29 Thread Clay Stewart 
Consider an EdgePoint, we have not lost one and have deployed many. Powered
by cat5 or wires. A real switch.

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Rick Boucher 
wrote:

> Looking for a good POE splitter to power up a ToughSwitch POE on n install
> about 75ft up.
>
> Source inserts power at base (in house) then powers ToughSwitchPOE on
> Roof. ToughSwitch then powers 4 UBNT 24V devices (maybe 5)
>
> Anyone using a good splitter for powering the TSPOE?
>
> Rick
>
> -
>
>
> Rick Boucher
> Webmaster / Systems Admin
> Orcas Online / San Juan Web
> (360) 376-6411
> http://www.orcasonline.com
> http://www.sanjuanweb.com
> The information source for the San Juan Islands
>
>
>
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> I have so much to do that I shall spend the first three hours in prayer."
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