[WISPA] Commission Sales
I went to a presentation on marketing and sales at WispAmerica. One of the topics discussed was your sales force. Both presenters recommended the use of sales on a strict commission basis. So, we decided to give it a try and hire a sales person to work off of commission for all of our ISP products. So far, after running ads in the local newspaper, we have been unable to find this type of sales person. I was wondering if any of you had recommendations or information on how you found a commission sales person. Carl Shivers Chief Information Officer | ARISTOTLE mailto:cshiv...@aristotle.net cshiv...@aristotle.net http://www.aristotle.net/ Description: Description: aristotle_email_signature_logo 401 West Capitol Avenue - Suite 700 . Little Rock, Arkansas 72201 (P) tel:501.374.4638 501.374.4638 (TF) tel:800.995.2747 800.995.2747 (F) tel:501.376.1377 501.376.1377 http://www.facebook.com/AristotleInc aristotle_email_signature_badge_facbook http://twitter.com/aristotlebuzz aristotle_email_signature_badge_twitter http://aris.bz/ArisLinkedIn aristotle_email_signature_badge_linkedin (W) http://www.aristotle.net/ Aristotle.net (B) http://www.aristotlebuzz.com/ Aristotle Buzz Blog ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Commission Sales
Yes. I should have been clear. We were presenting a base which would be a draw. Carl Shivers Chief Information Officer | ARISTOTLE cshiv...@aristotle.net http://www.aristotle.net/ Description: Description: aristotle_email_signature_logo 401 West Capitol Avenue - Suite 700 • Little Rock, Arkansas 72201 (P) tel:501.374.4638 501.374.4638 (TF) tel:800.995.2747 800.995.2747 (F) tel:501.376.1377 501.376.1377 http://www.facebook.com/AristotleInc aristotle_email_signature_badge_facbook http://twitter.com/aristotlebuzz aristotle_email_signature_badge_twitter http://aris.bz/ArisLinkedIn aristotle_email_signature_badge_linkedin (W) http://www.aristotle.net/ Aristotle.net (B) http://www.aristotlebuzz.com/ Aristotle Buzz Blog From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Commission Sales Normally sales people will work off a base + commission. Sometimes the base is a draw, or partial commission in advance. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net wrote: I went to a presentation on marketing and sales at WispAmerica. One of the topics discussed was your sales force. Both presenters recommended the use of sales on a strict commission basis. So, we decided to give it a try and hire a sales person to work off of commission for all of our ISP products. So far, after running ads in the local newspaper, we have been unable to find this type of sales person. I was wondering if any of you had recommendations or information on how you found a commission sales person. Carl Shivers Chief Information Officer | ARISTOTLE cshiv...@aristotle.net http://www.aristotle.net/ Description: Description: aristotle_email_signature_logo 401 West Capitol Avenue - Suite 700 • Little Rock, Arkansas 72201 (P) tel:501.374.4638 501.374.4638 (TF) tel:800.995.2747 800.995.2747 (F) tel:501.376.1377 501.376.1377 http://www.facebook.com/AristotleInc aristotle_email_signature_badge_facbook http://twitter.com/aristotlebuzz aristotle_email_signature_badge_twitter http://aris.bz/ArisLinkedIn aristotle_email_signature_badge_linkedin (W) http://www.aristotle.net/ Aristotle.net (B) http://www.aristotlebuzz.com/ Aristotle Buzz Blog ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Relay agreement
Nathan Stooke did a presentation on Mini Pops at WispAmerica. He briefly discussed agreements. You might want to check with him. Carl Shivers Chief Information Officer | ARISTOTLE mailto:cshiv...@aristotle.net cshiv...@aristotle.net http://www.aristotle.net/ Description: Description: aristotle_email_signature_logo 401 West Capitol Avenue - Suite 700 . Little Rock, Arkansas 72201 (P) tel:501.374.4638 501.374.4638 (TF) tel:800.995.2747 800.995.2747 (F) tel:501.376.1377 501.376.1377 http://www.facebook.com/AristotleInc aristotle_email_signature_badge_facbook http://twitter.com/aristotlebuzz aristotle_email_signature_badge_twitter http://aris.bz/ArisLinkedIn aristotle_email_signature_badge_linkedin (W) http://www.aristotle.net/ Aristotle.net (B) http://www.aristotlebuzz.com/ Aristotle Buzz Blog From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ~NGL~ Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Relay agreement I need an agreement that covers my using a clients roof to relay wifi to other clients. Anyone have one they would share? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Hotspot Setup
I'm attempting to set up my second hostpot and I'm finding I'm a bit rusty. I went through the hotspot setup, but after I finished, upon checking my files area, I am not seeing the hotspot directory. What am I missing on getting the files to populate into the files area? http://www.aristotleinteractive.com/develop/ Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png@01CD85B6.6C785560 Carl Shivers CIO - http://www.aristotle.net/ ARISTOTLER 401 West Capitol - Suite 700, Little Rock, Arkansas 72201 Email: mailto:cshiv...@aristotle.net cshiv...@aristotle.net | Phone: 501.374.4638 | Fax: 501.376.1377 inline: image001.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Setup
Thanks. The reset did it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Setup I think it's /ip hotspot reset-html Also a big button on the first tab of the hotspot window. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net wrote: I'm attempting to set up my second hostpot and I'm finding I'm a bit rusty. I went through the hotspot setup, but after I finished, upon checking my files area, I am not seeing the hotspot directory. What am I missing on getting the files to populate into the files area? http://www.aristotleinteractive.com/develop/ Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png@01CD85B6.6C785560 Carl Shivers CIO - http://www.aristotle.net/ ARISTOTLER 401 West Capitol - Suite 700, Little Rock, Arkansas 72201 Email: cshiv...@aristotle.net | Phone: 501.374.4638 | Fax: 501.376.1377 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless inline: image001.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Remote Installations
We are looking at opportunities outside our general area, out of reach of our local office. How do you go about finding installers for remote locations? Is there a list of Satellite installers somewhere on the Internet. http://www.aristotleinteractive.com/develop/ Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png@01CD85B6.6C785560 Carl Shivers CIO - http://www.aristotle.net/ ARISTOTLER 401 West Capitol - Suite 700, Little Rock, Arkansas 72201 Email: mailto:cshiv...@aristotle.net cshiv...@aristotle.net | Phone: 501.374.4638 | Fax: 501.376.1377 inline: image001.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Remote Location Installation
I know this question has been asked before and I apologize for not paying closer attention. Presently, all of our Network extends from the same POP location here in Little Rock. Recently, we have been looking at expansion into other areas in and out of state. I have a pretty good handle on how to set up the network, i.e., routing and monitoring, but I need information on the following: 1. Remote installation - We are planning on using installers, probably Satellite, to install our equipment. How do you craft the agreements with these service providers? Cost per install? 2. Remote Support - We can handle the phone from here, but how do you handle service calls for the items that can't be fixed by phone? Radio/router replacement? 3. Site Surveys - Presently, in the Little Rock area, we do site surveys for all new installs. What are some recommendations for handling this remotely? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Texarkana Texas
Any Wisps in the Texarkana Texas area? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Wireless Network Software
What's a good wireless diagram software? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Network Software
No. Simpler. Something I can draw a diagram with. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Network Software Do you mean like Dio or Radio Mobile? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net wrote: What's a good wireless diagram software? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PicoStation M
I agree. Also the Wiki says that 20 MHz is default. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 12:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PicoStation M That and AirMax got me more than once. I think it would be more intuitive if the AirMax selection box was on the Wireless tab. Greg On May 26, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Carl Shivers wrote: Thanks. The 20 MHz change did the trick. Good thing to remember. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joey Craig Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 9:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PicoStation M By default, they come set at 40 MHz. You will need to set it to 20 MHz for your laptop and other equipment to associate to it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Carl Shivers Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PicoStation M On the advice of my vendor, I got a set of UBNT PicoStation Ms. For testing, I turned off AirMax, put the radio in Access Point mode and bridge network. When trying to connect various laptops to the radio, I get immediate failures. It doesn't matter if I give myself an address on my Wireless adapter or plug the radio into my network, which has a DHCP server, connections still fail. I have no security set for the test. Any suggestions? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Power over Ethernet Ubiquiti Radios
Our vendor told us that if we purchase the higher watt power adapter that we can use the same power adapter for both our Nanostation and our Pico. Is there a setting in the Nano we need to turn on for the second POE for the Pico? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Power over Ethernet Ubiquiti Radios
Is this on the advanced tab? Also, I was reading where people enabled this and then their radio was bricked?? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of timothy steele Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power over Ethernet Ubiquiti Radios you have to enable POE Pass through in the GUI of the NSM On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net wrote: Our vendor told us that if we purchase the higher watt power adapter that we can use the same power adapter for both our Nanostation and our Pico. Is there a setting in the Nano we need to turn on for the second POE for the Pico? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PicoStation M
Thanks. The 20 MHz change did the trick. Good thing to remember. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joey Craig Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 9:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PicoStation M By default, they come set at 40 MHz. You will need to set it to 20 MHz for your laptop and other equipment to associate to it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Carl Shivers Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PicoStation M On the advice of my vendor, I got a set of UBNT PicoStation Ms. For testing, I turned off AirMax, put the radio in Access Point mode and bridge network. When trying to connect various laptops to the radio, I get immediate failures. It doesn't matter if I give myself an address on my Wireless adapter or plug the radio into my network, which has a DHCP server, connections still fail. I have no security set for the test. Any suggestions? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Ubiquiti PicoStation M
On the advice of my vendor, I got a set of UBNT PicoStation Ms. For testing, I turned off AirMax, put the radio in Access Point mode and bridge network. When trying to connect various laptops to the radio, I get immediate failures. It doesn't matter if I give myself an address on my Wireless adapter or plug the radio into my network, which has a DHCP server, connections still fail. I have no security set for the test. Any suggestions? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Upcoming Marathon Race
We have an Marathon next week and the organizers have asked if we can supply connectivity. I had a spare UB Rocket M2 with a 90 degree sector antenna waiting for another job, so I decided to use this. Here is basics on our config. Access Point Bridge Mode SSID LittleRockMarathon WPA-PKIP Static Management IP This will sit behind a router, which has a static WAN and will dish out IPs via DHCP on the LAN side. That's about it, but we can't connect our laptops to the ssid. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Upcoming Marathon Race
I think the suggestion to turn off the Airmax was the ticket. We are bench testing, so our distance is about 10 feet. LOL. For that, I should have turned down the transmit power. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:44 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Upcoming Marathon Race How far away from the AP are you? Did you turn down the TX power on the AP so that the RX from the laptop would be at a reasonable level for the AP to be able to establish a connection? Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:40 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: supp...@webjogger.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Upcoming Marathon Race You sure you are using the right encryption for your laptops? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 23, 2012 4:37 PM, Eric Roth er...@webjogger.net wrote: Also check to make sure that frame Aggregation is off. --Eric Roth Network Engineer Webjogger Internet Services (845) 757-4000 tel:%28845%29%20757-4000 www.webjogger.net From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Upcoming Marathon Race Airmax off? 20Mhz Channel? Can you if you turn off WPA? Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Carl Shivers Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:09 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Upcoming Marathon Race We have an Marathon next week and the organizers have asked if we can supply connectivity. I had a spare UB Rocket M2 with a 90 degree sector antenna waiting for another job, so I decided to use this. Here is basics on our config. Access Point Bridge Mode SSID LittleRockMarathon WPA-PKIP Static Management IP This will sit behind a router, which has a static WAN and will dish out IPs via DHCP on the LAN side. That's about it, but we can't connect our laptops to the ssid. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] LMR Cables
We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We're using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 APs
Thanks all for the info. I was out yesterday and wasn't able to respond. Thanks again. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Carl Shivers Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:59 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 APs We are planning to sell a mixture of speeds using our Ubiquiti 3.65 APs; 1,3,5 and 10 Mbps circuits. We are a bit concerned on how many clients we can get on each AP. Does anyone have some stats on this? Most of our customers would be in the 1 and 3 Mbps range. Only a few are purchasing the 5 and 10 Mbps circuits. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 APs
We are planning to sell a mixture of speeds using our Ubiquiti 3.65 APs; 1,3,5 and 10 Mbps circuits. We are a bit concerned on how many clients we can get on each AP. Does anyone have some stats on this? Most of our customers would be in the 1 and 3 Mbps range. Only a few are purchasing the 5 and 10 Mbps circuits. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's
Have you looked into Azotel - Billing, Monitoring, UBB, etc. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Bowsher Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's Maybe authentication is the wrong word to use. I want a different solution whether it is mac auth or something else that will use my radius server and use my billing server for accounting. Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net http://www.midwaynet.net/ jbows...@midwaynet.net From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's Exactly my thought when I read the original post. Aren't you already doing authentication in RADIUS? What are you really trying to accomplish with authentication? On 7/13/2011 5:37 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through radius on the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius server is going to provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication. What are you using as a billing/provisioning platform? Cameron Cameron On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net wrote: I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate all of my wireless customers. Currently we use pppoe and I would like to get away from it. I use mikrotik AP's and my network is OSPF routed. I tried using hotspot mac auth and it worked and still works in some of my AP's but some of the more crowded locations fell on their face. I am looking for either a way to improve that method or I need a centralized box that would control authentication and let my billing server and radius server still provision speeds and determine that a customer has paid their bill. Currently I am open to suggestions of what authentication options are available with my mikrotik equipment and I am willing to pay consultation fees if necessary when I get an Idea that will work like I want it to. Also, I hand out both private IP's and public IP's only when the customer requests them, and currently if a customer requests a public static I create a custom profile in radius and they get the only IP in a custom pool setup for that profile. Thank you in advance for any and all advice and ideas. Regards, Joshua S. Bowsher Director of Internet Services Midwaynet.net Midway Electronics NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC 1250 N McKinley Ave Rensselaer, IN 47978 Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 Cell 219-863-0678 www.midwaynet.net http://www.midwaynet.net/ jbows...@midwaynet.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Arkansas Heatwave
We are having a serious heat wave here in Little Rock. Our APs are running in the red in relation to specs; not failing yet, but close. We think one of our tower sites is having problems. It is now 10:30a and the APs are running at 150 degrees. I don't think there is a solution, but I thought I would ask. Motorola said that about the only thing we might try is to build some sort of covering above the AP to create shade. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
Thanks. I'm also looking into InfoBlox, for my DNS conversions. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:04 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses If you are stuck - you can change your network topology a bit. 1. Do IPv4 internally using Internal Network addresses. 2. Only give the public IPv4 address to folks who pay for it meet ARIN justification for the IP (amazing how that helps quite a bit ;-) ) 3. Utilize a public IP for those Natted clients 4. Utilize a 6to4 tunnelbroker (unless you have your own IPv6 dual stack running.) both SixXs and HE.net offer this service and provide FREE BGP routing if needed as well. 5. Run your own 6to4Nat implementation. While its a little bit of a struggle to get there - you can do 1to1 Nat worse case - well technically IPv6 does not support NAT - so let us call it what it really is - it's a private tunnel. By building your own tunnel and using at minimum linux 2.6.22 or above (older kernel will simply not work) - you can utilize the iproute2 package and voila - your problems are solved (well it takes work... ) Cisco routers support automatic 6to4 ISATAP as does Vyatta and many other routers now. I did a posting recently to UBNT asking when we can expect IPv6 from them - asked for a drop dead date... sadly have not seen that yet ;-( instead got a coming soon - a few months response. One important note - there are disadvantages of 6to4 relays such as the probability of asymmetric routing so unless you know what your doing - stick with Sixxs (if based in Europe) or HE.net (if US based) as a broker. On the plus side - my tunnel from Hurricane Electric www.HE.net (free) is actually lower latency to some parts of the world than my IPv4 route and almost always less hops. We have some servers @ Linode, some in our own data center here in Ohio, some in Texas and others in the UK - and the IPv6 Tunnel does some wonders for latency and routing between them ;-) This may be due to the fact that HE is on of the top 10 (actually # 6) networks in regards to peering. Currently according to fixed orbit - HE.net has 1385 networks it peers with - (More than Sprint, More than Road Runner - More than Comcast... and are beat out only by a few others. (to note the top 10 are as follows:) #1 Level 3 with 2703 peers #2 Cogent with 2696 peers (and folks keep bashing them saying their peering sucks... go figure) #3 ATT with 2332 peers #4 MCI/Verizon with 2009 peers #5 Global Crossing with 1390 peers #6 - HE.net with 1385 peers #7 Qwest with 1377 peers #8 TW Telecom Holdings (not Time Warner Cable / Road Runner ) with 1326 peers #9 Sprint with 1316 peers # 10 Init 7 AG with 958 peers (note those are direct peers ) On Feb 8, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Who says you have to do anything ? What is working stays working.. yeah if you need to put a new 1000 Wifi routers.. very likely then you will need to put up the ones that support IPv6 Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 2/8/2011 5:52 PM, Carl Shivers wrote: So what is the solution if you have 1000+ WiFi routers that don't support IPv6? Pretty penny to replace. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 12:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses There was a requirement to use with IP allocation. (would need more within 3 months, if not allocated, or something like that). There is a legal basis to make IP holders return IPs that they are not using, or will not use within X months. Selling it on the secondary market is not the intent of the ARIN original rules, regardless of what recent decissions ARIN may have made.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses Probably not directed towards ISPs, but to other organizations. http://fixedorbit.com/stats.htm http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml GE probably doesn't need 16M+ IPs. HP probably doesn't need 33M+ IPs. Ford probably doesn't need 16M+ IPs.. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 2/7/2011 10:34 AM, Matt wrote: No, it's not a real problem. I liken it to the exhaust of homesteads in the past century. You used to be able to go to a land office and ask for your 40 acres. Then they ran out. But you could still buy a farm from somebody who previously had
Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses
So what is the solution if you have 1000+ WiFi routers that don't support IPv6? Pretty penny to replace. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 12:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses There was a requirement to use with IP allocation. (would need more within 3 months, if not allocated, or something like that). There is a legal basis to make IP holders return IPs that they are not using, or will not use within X months. Selling it on the secondary market is not the intent of the ARIN original rules, regardless of what recent decissions ARIN may have made.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses Probably not directed towards ISPs, but to other organizations. http://fixedorbit.com/stats.htm http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml GE probably doesn't need 16M+ IPs. HP probably doesn't need 33M+ IPs. Ford probably doesn't need 16M+ IPs.. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 2/7/2011 10:34 AM, Matt wrote: No, it's not a real problem. I liken it to the exhaust of homesteads in the past century. You used to be able to go to a land office and ask for your 40 acres. Then they ran out. But you could still buy a farm from somebody who previously had a homestead. Very few are going to give up there 'old' IP space without wanting a high price if at all. I know I won't, any one else going too? Like most ISP's we grow every year not shrink. I see this as a real problem. I imagine we will dual stack soon and when the pinch comes give lower tier users a NAT'ed IPv4 IP and a /48 or /64 of IPv6 space. I hate the idea of handing out NAT'ed IP space though. Too hard to tell who did what. My opinion is there should be a very hard push to IPv6. Whats bad is 99% percent of consumer wifi routers do not support IPv6. That is going to be a HUGE issue. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320
Thanks for the info and the link to the .pdf. What kind of speed are you getting out of the 5 MHz channels? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 4:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 We have a pretty large 320 network (200 SM's) and just recently had to move to 3.5mhz channel sizes because of self-interference between sectors. The ABAB channel plan will not scale well and you will suffer high packet loss as a result. Once your cluster hits around 20-30 SM's you'll begin to see it. Moving to a ABCD channel plan has resolved many issues and packet loss is very minimal now. Customer experience has greatly improved. We have subscribers at 9 miles so moving to 5mhz channel size is not an option until the extended range firmware is released. Obviously, once this software is released and the product gains upper 25mhz approval we can then run ABCD channel plan in 10mhz. Until then, we're stuck. -Eric On 12/16/2010 3:39 PM, Carl Shivers wrote: I'm running v6.2.4.3 on the SMs and System Release e2.0.1 on the APs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 The current firmware works very well. If you haven't done so already, upgrade to the latest firmware, as it resolves tons of RF link stability problems. If that's not your issue, please post details. We have PMP320 deployed and are happy with it. Dave On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Justin Wilsonli...@mtin.net wrote: My experience with the Moto 3.65 stuff is the firmware downright stinks. I know they are working on improvements and I have not re-visited this in the past months. Justin -- Justin Wilsonj...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support From: Carl Shiverscshiv...@aristotle.net Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:28:06 -0600 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 During a breakout session at the recent Wireless Without Limits conference, one of the attendees was touting that they are really impressed with the new Motorola 3.65 GHz system. We have recently installed this system and we are having some problems maintaining links. This attendee told stories about how he had to tweak his SM installations, but once he had a link, it was generally solid. I would like to conference with one of you who are having success with this system so as to better utilize our installation. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
[WISPA] Motorola PMP 320
During a breakout session at the recent Wireless Without Limits conference, one of the attendees was touting that they are really impressed with the new Motorola 3.65 GHz system. We have recently installed this system and we are having some problems maintaining links. This attendee told stories about how he had to tweak his SM installations, but once he had a link, it was generally solid. I would like to conference with one of you who are having success with this system so as to better utilize our installation. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320
I'm running v6.2.4.3 on the SMs and System Release e2.0.1 on the APs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 The current firmware works very well. If you haven't done so already, upgrade to the latest firmware, as it resolves tons of RF link stability problems. If that's not your issue, please post details. We have PMP320 deployed and are happy with it. Dave On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: My experience with the Moto 3.65 stuff is the firmware downright stinks. I know they are working on improvements and I have not re-visited this in the past months. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:28:06 -0600 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 During a breakout session at the recent Wireless Without Limits conference, one of the attendees was touting that they are really impressed with the new Motorola 3.65 GHz system. We have recently installed this system and we are having some problems maintaining links. This attendee told stories about how he had to tweak his SM installations, but once he had a link, it was generally solid. I would like to conference with one of you who are having success with this system so as to better utilize our installation. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic
We are using NetEnforcer. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bill Price Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] P2P Traffic I sure this has been asked before. How are you guys handling P2P traffic? We are using microtik on one of our networks. Thanks Bill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Network Monitoring
We have a monitoring system, but it doesn't meet the needs of our Customer Service side of the company. I would like to have a GUI to see Networks by locations showing the APs and their SMs. I'm using Canopy 900 MHz with connected SMs. They would like to be able to see a mouse over so they could identify the customers when an outage occurs giving customer data and location. Because of bandwidth consumption by some of our customers, the old 80 - 20 rule, I would also like to start capturing the Byte throughput on my customers so I can set bandwidth caps and tiered bandwidth usage services. Any thoughts on what might be best for this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring
A bit. I've heard that Prizm isn't all it's cracked up to be. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring If this is all Motorola, have you looked at Prizm? Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 10/14/2010 11:58 AM, Carl Shivers wrote: We have a monitoring system, but it doesn't meet the needs of our Customer Service side of the company. I would like to have a GUI to see Networks by locations showing the APs and their SMs. I'm using Canopy 900 MHz with connected SMs. They would like to be able to see a mouse over so they could identify the customers when an outage occurs giving customer data and location. Because of bandwidth consumption by some of our customers, the old 80 - 20 rule, I would also like to start capturing the Byte throughput on my customers so I can set bandwidth caps and tiered bandwidth usage services. Any thoughts on what might be best for this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Bandwidth Monitoring
Matt Larson demonstrated some software that he had created to monitor the Byte throughput on his customers. He then developed packages accordingly. I understand that some others are using various softwares to do the same thing. Someone mentioned Win Pcap and someone else mentioned Netflow. I have a feeling that I'm experiencing some of the 80 / 20 problem myself and would like to get something going. Can someone(s) point me in the right direction. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up on my network? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
Can it be purchased?? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Larry A Weidig Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 4:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests We have been using: http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php for a couple of years. The only caveat is that you must reinstall it every month as it expires otherwise. The good thing is that is a VERY simple process. Seems to be the most accurate free test we could find. I really like Visualware's products, but they seem too expensive. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Carl Shivers Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 4:17 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up on my network? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Captive Portals
After seeing several responses, I have decided to go with a simple Mikrotik set up. My wireless vendor will sell me the Mikrotik and for an additional $75 set up my portal with splash page. Thanks for all the suggestions. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alan Long Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Captive Portals How many users behind portal? Do you want to have logins or free access? Do you need to process credit cards for payments? Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Carl Shivers Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:56 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Captive Portals We are setting up a WiFi zone for a customer that wants a splash page. Can someone give me a recommendation on a good Captive portal device or software? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2663 - Release Date: 02/02/10 01:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Captive Portals
We are setting up a WiFi zone for a customer that wants a splash page. Can someone give me a recommendation on a good Captive portal device or software? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] PRTG - Motorola Canopy
If anyone out there is using Motorola Canopy and PRTG for monitoring, let me know. I'm trying to set up a walk for Jitter and I am struggling. I know I have the OID correct and for the device, I have SNMP v2, the correct community string and port. I'm missing something. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Thanks. This looks promising. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Go get and install CactiEZ. Once setup and working its easy to maintain. Our billing person enters all new units into cacti. - Matt Carl Shivers wrote: Looks like you have to be a Unix guru to install and develop graphs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Cacti! Carl Shivers wrote: We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Network Monitor
We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Looks like you have to be a Unix guru to install and develop graphs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Cacti! Carl Shivers wrote: We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower
$100 per month + $1 per household franchise fee. Franchise lasts for 20 years. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower $100 per month plus service to 1 city building per tower. Like Marlon, ours started out at $1500 per month too - had a consultant tell them it was worth that. They wouldn't go for the complete trade. $100/mth includes ground space if we decide to put up our own shelter or enclosure outside of their gates. We have trade with another public water district though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:05 PM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower Those of you that are on water towers, what sort of agreements do you guys have with cities for their water towers and how much are you paying? I'm in negotiations with one now. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Routers with DHCP Problems
I recently bought a batch of Buffalo AirStations, which run WHR-HP-G54. Based upon recommendations, I also installed DD-WRT in order to improve the OS, I thought, and so I have functionality I wouldn't normally have, like SNMP. These are working fine except for one problem, on several, we have noticed that the DHCP server will simply stop giving out ip addresses. We are not sure why, but everything works fine after rebooting the router 1 or 2 times. Also, putting static private addresses in works as well after turning off DHCP. I need to know if there is a fairly good router out there that will handle DHCP and allows to use SNMP. I would like to have my cake and eat it too by keeping my costs under $70. These are used primarily for residential. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Locustworld meshes?
We are using Meraki at a local ballpark, the zoo and a river walk area. The ballpark has 1 gw node and 4 mesh nodes. The zoo has 1 gw and 1 mesh node. The river walk area presently has 2 gw nodes and 8 mesh nodes. This will be expanded to 3 gw nodes and 17 mesh nodes. It is very easy to deploy using the Meraki system dashboard. P.S. I am not a Meraki sales person. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Stroh Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 4:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Locustworld meshes? Japhy: Meraki kind of nuked 'em - http://meraki.com. Thanks, Steve On 9/14/07, Japhy Bartlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all the discussion going on about the 900mhz meshes, I thought I'd ask your opinion on the locustworld meshboxes. I'm still just exploring the options for a local non-profit sort of setup, and it was one of the first things to come up when I was Googling. It seems like they made a big splash a few years ago, and it looks like they're still deploying new projects. But I haven't seen anyone even mention it on this list, after a few months of lurking. How come nobody seems to be using it? Japhy ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Steve Stroh Editor / Analyst, Stroh Publications LLC 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] POE Surge Protectors
I'm looking for a good inexpensive POE surge protector. The AC/DC Adaptor has an I/P: AC 100-240V 50/60Hz 1.2A. O/P is 24V 1.5A. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Replacement Wireless Broadband Router
We are looking for a replacement customer router for residential. We presently are using Zyxel P334Ws. We are probably going to use the Buffalo WHR-HP-54 and run WRT. Does anyone know a good source for these? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Replacement Wireless Broadband Router
Thanks for the info. I found or think I found some WHR-HP-54s at newegg. If I get an out of stock notice, I will go to the 125s. Thanks again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 12:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replacement Wireless Broadband Router We are looking for a replacement customer router for residential. We presently are using Zyxel P334Ws. We are probably going to use the Buffalo WHR-HP-54 and run WRT. Does anyone know a good source for these? That one is discountinued I beleive. You will likely need to switch to the buffalo 125 something. Downside, no external antenna connector. Newegg has the 125 buffalo. Cheapest thing I know that runs DD-WRT. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Zyxel Wireless Router Replacement
About a year ago, we got a good buy on 100 Zyxel P334WTs, $30 each. We are trying to find a replacement router for our residential customers in the same range. We liked this router because it had remote management and SNMP management. Anyone have any suggestions. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trango P2P Atlas 5010
We acquired a new set of Atlas External 5010s. We have great locations. MU is located on a 42 story building, total elevation of 800, and the second location is on a Water Tower 12 miles away, 730. We are using parabolic 32 dBi dishes on each end, 4° beamwidth. However, we cant seem to get the speed above 24 Mbps on either 5.3 or 5.8. Our surveys show that we do have some interference. I do have some channels showing peaks in the -88 range. The best RSSI we can get is -77. Any thoughts? This is our first time aligning dishes. Our LOS is very good and we are pointing, to the best of our knowledge, in the right direction. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] VOIP Providers with Virtual Office Type Setups - CALL ME NOW
Velocitytel.com has a decent program, if you are interested in reselling or simply getting service to a customer. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] VOIP Providers with Virtual Office Type Setups - CALL ME NOW Importance: High Need a very quick solution to a very aggrivating problem. BellSouth and Us have been arguing for months over excess charges on our bill from when we had T1 services through them. Apparently this morning, they have decided to shut off our phone lines into our office. *There way of making us pay for stuff we do not owe them for * I am needing an almost overnite VoIP / Virtual Office type setup from someone who has reasonable pricing and a damn good service. If you are going to call and expect us to pay more then $100.00/mo for a 1-800 # type setup with 3 extensions. Don't bother... If anyone has any solutions they would like us to take a look at , we will be making a decision today by noon. Regards, JohnnyO 337-764-5953 Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Outdoor Router
Anyone have a line on inexpensive outdoor routers? We have an application using a Skypilot connector acting as a bridge and we need a hardened router with no WiFi. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Water Tower Mounts
? should we engineer everything to withstand +500mph wind loads? Should all magnets be outlawed? (I see lots of magnetically mounted omni antennas on vehicles traveling at high speed down public roadways, can you imagine that???) I bet some of those responding negatively to magnetic mounts even have magnets holding stuff on their refrigerators, one of the highest use and traffic areas in the typical home. I can show numerous examples of solutions designed and built by amateurs which in the final analysis are safer and better solutions than commercially available, professionally designed solutions to the same problem, but the amateur solutions do not have the blessing of the designed by professionals label. Does that make them inappropriate? In the views of some people, sadly, the answer is yes. All of that being said, whenever one is considering their options for mounting equipment on a tower, safety should be a top priority (and I would add should take precedence over having a designed by professionals label) and one should never mount equipment in a fashion which is likely to cause serious injury or death to innocent members of the community. John Clint Ricker wrote: Not to ruffle any feathers and not directed at anyone, but lack of problems on a single install does not always coincide with proper approaches on this sort of thing. Best practices are just that--the best approach(es) to doing technical work--there are also bad practices, not so good practices, it may work practices, it should hold practices, and we'll deal with that later practices. They often will get the job done, but, just so that we're all clear on this, none of the later category, no matter how many one-off implementations are functional to some degree or another, will ever be best practices. Personally, if I was in your town or especially on any sort of a planning board or whatever, I'd be fairly nervous about the idea of big heavy objects being held up by magnets, especially when (seemingly) it is being done by people who don't necessarily have a lot of experience with calculating load bearing stuff with magnets. The fact that you hold up anecdotal evidence as a basis for its validity rather than it's engineered to withstand 100Mph winds or whatever pretty much illustrates my point--this is just a bad idea. Just keep in mind that one falling antenna that kills one person is enough to bring out major liability lawsuits that you will not be covered against, not to mention bringing some fairly major legislative regulation and licensing requirements for mounting affecting the whole industry. If I knew that antennas in my area were be magnet-mounted by amateurs, I would be personally leading the charge for some regulation on this. Ok, sorry for any offense. I'm not trying to flame anyone, but this is just not a good idea. -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies On 7/12/07, Ray Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl We used one from Tessco that has a collar that bolts around the vent on top of tank and adjustable legs for leveling.It has been up there 4 years with no problems.It was easy to install approx 1hour. Ray Hill - Original Message - From: J. Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Mounts Carl Shivers wrote: We are going to be mounting Panel Sector antennas to 2 Water Towers. One tower is ideal with a rail that has been designed for pipe mounting. The other is not so kind. It simply has a ladder up the side and over the top, no catwalk. We were thinking about using one of those 170 lbs. Water Tower mounts. This means we either have to get a welder up there to weld the plates or come up with an industrial epoxy solution. I have successfully used magnets on a couple of towers for 2 years now... I don't completely trust them, so I also run a safety cable around the mast and anchor it to a solid projection on the tower so that if the magnets did turn loose, the mast wouldn't hit the ground, but in two years, and through several thunderstorms and pretty good winds, the magnets haven't shifted a bit that I can see. -- John Vogel - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises, LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
[WISPA] Water Tower Mounts
We are going to be mounting Panel Sector antennas to 2 Water Towers. One tower is ideal with a rail that has been designed for pipe mounting. The other is not so kind. It simply has a ladder up the side and over the top, no catwalk. We were thinking about using one of those 170 lbs. Water Tower mounts. This means we either have to get a welder up there to weld the plates or come up with an industrial epoxy solution. Any other ideas would be welcome. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
