Re: [WISPA] Outstanding Offer For ENTELEC Spring Conference & Expo Exhibitors 2019

[mike . lyon]

WTF?

> On Mar 25, 2019, at 02:42, Catherine Bell 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Season Greetings,
>  
> This is an outstanding offer for ENTELEC Spring Conference & Expo Exhibitors 
> 2019!!
>  
> I am writing to check if you would be interested in acquiring the list of 
> attendees of ENTELEC Spring Conference & Expo 2019 for your marketing and 
> sales initiatives.
>  
> This is an opportunity to acquire list of 1800 attendees contact details for 
> a robust marketing campaign which will eventually help you convert the 
> compiled leads in to phenomenal sales deal.
>  
> Please revert with your interest to get you connected with our Business 
> Development Manager, who will send out the pricing and other information for 
> your review.
>  
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>  
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Re: [WISPA] ethernet over twisted pair ?

[mike . lyon]

VDSL adapters

https://www.startech.com/m/Networking-IO/Media-Converters/Ethernet-Extenders/10-100Mbps-VDSL2-Ethernet-LAN-Extender-Kit~110VDSLEXT

-Mike

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 15:58, Jeff Evans  wrote:
> 
> Seems like I have read of these adapters, can you recommend a device 
> that will accomplish this?
> 
> 
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[WISPA] Fwd: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

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Forwarded from another list...


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Sean Donelan 
> Date: September 29, 2017 at 20:07:47 PDT
> To: "na...@nanog.org" 
> Subject: Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of
> 
> 
> The situation reports from Puerto Rico seems to be getting passed through 
> public relations, so I'll try to add some context.
> 
> 
> Public Safety
>   Primary Public Safety Answering Point (9-1-1) center generator ran out of 
> diesel fuel.  Switched to alternate PSAP.
> 
>  San Juan Police Department has restored its radio repeaters and police radio 
> communications metro-wide. (translated from spanish, so I think I understood 
> the technical translation).
> 
> 
> 
> Landline Central Offices
>813,546 subscribers (CIA World Factbook)
> 
>390,000 subscribers in 52 municipalities with voice, data and long 
> distance (Claro)
> Repaired fiber optic cable conntecting CO's in Fajardo and Rio Grande.
> 
> 65% of inter-office Central Office connections restored island-wide.
> Remaining CO's have only local voice calling.
> 
> Optico Fiber reports most of its infrastructure is intact, and has open 
> WiFi hotspots outside its offices.
> 
> 
> Wireless services
>3,227,281 subscribers (CIA World Factbook)
> 
>29 municipalities have 0% working cell sites.  It appears carriers are 
> repairing one tower in each county/municipality to improve island-wide 
> coverage.  Several municipalities going from 0 to 1 cell site working.
> 
>310,000 subscribers in 28 municipalities with working cell towers (Claro)
> 
>34% of San Juan has working cell tower coverage (Claro)
> 
>Cell on Wheels in Ponce (4 mile radius) serving 6,000 calls per hour, 
> 35,000 texts per hour (AT)
> 
>Dorado, Tao Baja and Toa Alta have T-Mobile service (T-Mobile)
> 
> 
> I don't know what FCC and PRTRB are counting:
> 
>286 working cell sites out of 2671 (according to FCC report)
>96 working cell sites out of 1600 (according to PR Telecommunications 
> Regulatory Board report)
> 
>For context, the number of cell sites repaired each day since the end of 
> Hurricane Maria is improving slowly - average less than 20 sites a day, but 
> some days its negative, i.e. more cell towers failing than repaired.
> 
>On U.S. Virigin Islands, the number of cell sites out of service decreased 
> initially, but has slowly increased for the last 5 days.
> 
> I created a spreadsheet of the FCC wirelss outage data from hurricane Harvey, 
> Irma and Maria.
> 
> https://www.donelan.com/FCC-Wireless-Outages.xlsx
> 
> There is no consistent pattern between states, territories or hurricanes. 
> Florida had the fatest wireless restoration, average 500 cell sites restored 
> a day; while U.S. Virgin Islands averaged less than 1 cell site restored.  
> But Florida was mostly restoring the electrical grid, which restored lots of 
> cell sites.  Harvey was slow to start restoring cell sites, the tropical 
> storm lasted for days; but less than 6% of cell sites were out of service.
> 
> 
> Cable systems
> 
> First official report from Liberty Cable Puerto Rico
> 
> Most cable headends or in good condition, with backup generators. 
> Internet connection to international circuits reconnected. Main fiber trunk 
> between San Juan and Luquillo completed. Working to repair infrastructure and 
> primary services such as physical plant, main repeater bases, fiber optic 
> ring and fiber to distribution stations in neighborhoods. (LibertyPR)
> 
> 
> Satellite Services and Satellite Phones
> 
>   As more satellite phones are distributed, social media and news reporters 
> are saying satellite capacity is getting worse.  It may be user issues and 
> lack of training, or running out of satellite bandwidth in the area.
> 
>   American Red Cross driving a VSAT station between shelters, and setting up 
> temporary hotspots for an hour at each shelter so people can contact family 
> members.
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Re: [WISPA] Accounting Software to Replace PC Based Quickbooks

[mike . lyon]

QBO here along with their payroll.

I don't use QBO for my recurring billing though. I use chargify.com for that.

-Mike

> On Sep 26, 2017, at 07:41, Bill MacNamara  wrote:
> 
> Tom,
> 
> OI have clients that have used them all and they seem to gravitate back to 
> QBB. I can tell you one client tried ZOHO and was very disappointed for what 
> it's worth.
> 
>  
> Bill MacNamara
> (928) 970-1340
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Tom Fadgen  wrote:
>> 
>> Every 3 years I replace my Quickbooks software with the new version
>> since they will no longer support some features with the old versions.
>> This year I lost my part time bookkeeper that would come in once a
>> week and all the new part-timers want to work remote which makes an
>> online service the best choice. I use ADP for payroll and integrated
>> time keeping and I use Powercode for receivables. I am looking at the
>> following:
>> 
>> Quickbooks Online
>> Freshbooks
>> Zoho
>> 
>> I am sure I am not the only one that has made or is looking into this.
>> What is everyone else using. I believe that Quickbooks is the dominant
>> player here and but I am not quite sure they are the best for me
>> needs.
>> 
>> What is everyone else using?
>> 
>> Tom Fadgen
>> coastinet.com
>> 
>> 
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[WISPA] Test

[mike . lyon]

Test
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Re: [WISPA] Test

[mike . lyon]

Thanks

Apparently this is the only list i can send to even though all my settings in 
the portal say otherwise...

If only there was someone to contact to fix it...

-Mike

> On Aug 25, 2017, at 23:13, Judd Dare  wrote:
> 
> Reply
> 
> On Aug 26, 2017 12:11 AM,  wrote:
> Test
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[WISPA] Test

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[WISPA] Fwd: Sign onto EFF's comment to the FCC on their net neutrality proposal

[mike . lyon]

Forwarded on from another mailing list.

-Mike


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Erica Portnoy 
> Date: July 5, 2017 at 15:59:37 PDT
> To: na...@nanog.org
> Subject: Sign onto EFF's comment to the FCC on their net neutrality proposal
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> As many of you know, the FCC is currently engaging in the process of
> repealing its network neutrality rules and eliminating its Title II
> authority over broadband providers.
> 
> I'm writing you today to ask you to sign on to a letter that EFF has
> prepared for filing, which explains several key engineering concepts
> that are vital to understanding how the Internet actually operates given
> that the FCC's own findings misinterpret how the Internet works.
> 
> The letter stays away from legal arguments, and instead focuses on
> technical statements on the design and operation of the Internet. It is
> meant to establish a factual record for the FCC about the Internet and
> it is necessary because its initial findings in its Notice of Proposed
> Rulemaking
>  are
> just wrong. For one, the FCC thinks that broadband Internet providers
> are the ones providing end users with the services of the entire
> Internet, from search engines to online newspapers to language
> translation tools.
> 
> /*If you're willing to sign on and help, please email
> engineers-nn-comme...@eff.org (off-list) by Friday, July 14 */and I will
> be happy to share a copy of the letter for you to review before you
> agree to sign on.
> 
> The more signatures we can get, the more likely the FCC is to take
> notice as well as the courts should they move forward. All it takes is
> an email. Please help us make sure the FCC gets the facts from an
> engineer's standpoint.
> 
> Thank you for your support,
> 
> Erica Portnoy
> Staff Technologist
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[WISPA] Baicells question

[mike . lyon]

When deploying a Baicells eNb and Baicells CPE, is it possible to route a 
subnet to a specific CPE without it getting NAT'd at the CPE or eNb?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik Users] Hmm.. Mikrotik or Cisco...

[Mike Lyon]

Which ASRs are you running?


On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Mike Francis via Mikrotik-users <
mikrotik-us...@wispa.org> wrote:

> I am a bog Mikrotik fan, but rely on cisco for our Core and Edge. Our
> latest BGP config for Edge services are a Cisco ASR for Primary, then we
> are running a CHR on top of our Vmware platform for secondary BGP. we have
> several CHRs passing several gigs of traffic and they are very solid. We
> have this deployed in 4 datacenters like this and it is working very well,
> keeps cost down, and is very flexible.
>
> Thank you,
> John Michael Francis II
> JMF Solutions, Inc
> Wavefly - Internet | Voip | Cloud
> INC 5000 #2593
> CRN Fast Growth #105
> 251-517-5069 <(251)%20517-5069>
> http://jmfsolutions.net
> http://wavefly.com
>
> "People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. Love them anyway.
> If you do good, people may accuse you of selfish motives. Do good anyway.
> If you are successful, you may win false friends and true enemies. Succeed
> anyway. The good you do today may be forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway.
> Honesty and transparency make you vulnerable. Be honest and transparent
> anyway. What you spend years building may be destroyed overnight. Build
> anyway. People who really want help may attack you if you help them. Help
> them anyway. Give the world the best you have and you may get hurt. Give
> the world your best anyway." By: Mother Teresa
> On 6/30/2017 12:46 PM, David Jones via Mikrotik-users wrote:
>
> Good morning.
>
> I have a deep question for the Mikrotik people and the Cisco people.
>
> Let me give you an overview of where we are.
> Currently we have all of our tower sites using Mikrotik connecting to our
> core with MPLS/VPLS to our core that is multiple Mikrotik routers using
> VRRP (I had a core die from power supply failure and our network didn't
> skip a beet while it was replaced.) The VRRP core then connects to our edge
> that is a Cisco ASR1001-x that connects to our BGP peers.
>
> The reason we went with Cisco was because all the CCR Mikrotik Lagged
> horribly when doing BGP full tables. We had a Maxxwave router that did fine
> with the BGP but had crap interface support with Mikrotik not having good
> drivers for the interfaces. Different MTU for the MPLS caused problems.
>
> It appears that now with Mikrotik's CHR fixes the driver problems. the
> Virtual host deals with the drivers so Mikrotik doesn't have to.
>
> All has been fine for a few years... but now the Cisco has reset itself
> twice in the past week. For whatever reason a reboot on a Cisco = 15-20min
> down time. We are now needing a VRRP solution for the Edge.
>
> So here is the cross roads... Do we get another ASR1001-x and struggle for
> a while to get a form of VRRP to work between them? Or do we get something
> like this (https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-SuperServer-5018D-
> FN8T-Rackmount-10GbE/dp/B01LXUATHB
> <https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-SuperServer-5018D-FN8T-Rackmount-10GbE/dp/B01LXUATHB>
> )
> and keep it all Mikrotik for ease of training and use?
>
> We do not have much experience with Cisco. It takes us quite a bit to
> configure and change them. is it worth learning and paying the 12x the
> price for less throughput?
> Cisco ASR 1001 2.5gbps throughput = $6,680
> Cisco Licence for 10gbps throughput = $13,099
> Total for 1 Cisco router + Repair of current + 1 Spare = $41,558
>
> vs Mikrotik
> Supermicro SuperServer 5018D-FN8T + 16G mem + SSD = $986
> CHR 10Gbps upload per interface = $95
> Total for 2 routers + 1 spare = $3,243
>
> Is Cisco still the better option? would it be better to say use 3 MK
> routers in VRRP with one spare so 2 can fail and not be a problem?
>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for opinions on a proposal for PTMP in 6Ghz Part 101 spectrum

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Is it possible that it can be used for only PTMP / PTP and NOT consumer use 
(i.e., wireless routers)? Thats my major complaint right now. My hilltop APs 
see hundreds of comcast/xfinity APs along with everyones netgear home router.  

> On Jun 7, 2017, at 14:34, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
> 
> For 6Ghz it would likely be a coordinated system similar to the SAS system 
> planned for CBRS but without the ESC portion.  The coordination from the SAS 
> would protect existing users and links.  I would expect to see a professional 
> installer requirement similar to CBRS rules.   Part 101 is a small part of 
> the potentially available spectrum between 5900 and 7200.   There are plenty 
> of other users that would need to be protected as well.  Whatever happens 
> here isn't going to be true unlicensed spectrum.
> 
> My question earlier was more general than just the 6Ghz space.   There are 
> other frequency bands can be looked at for PTMP that can make use of a SAS 
> type of system to allow multiple uses of currently underutilized spectrum, 
> but they all have some form of incumbent.  The TV Whitespace rules are 
> largely useless because the NAB tried so hard to protect its turf that the 
> rules make it very difficult to use for PTMP.I don't believe we should be 
> shutting down anything that can get us more PTMP space but should instead be 
> supporting proposals that protect what we have while finding additional ways 
> to reach customers.
> 
> Mark Radabaugh
> Amplex
> 22690 Pemberville Rd
> Luckey, OH 43447
> 419-261-5996
> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 6/7/17 11:44, David Jones wrote:
>>> If its to be part 15 how will the 6ghz be protected? don't we now have 
>>> problems in the DFS from people who don't know or don't care?
>> 
>> 
>> I still want to able to coordinate new part 101 6GHz links. That band 
>> should not be removed from the box of tools WISPs have for licensed links.
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for opinions on a proposal for PTMP in 6Ghz Part 101 spectrum

[mike . lyon]

If not lightly licensed, keep it the way it is.



> On Jun 7, 2017, at 11:23, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
> 
> What are you proposing replace unlicensed spectrum with?  
> 
> CBRS?   I don’t think you are going to like the results.   Straight up 
> licensed auctions?   Do you really have the money to compete with the big 4 
> in that?
> 
> I’m not sure what WISPA is supposed to do for you here.   You don’t like Part 
> 15, you don’t like NN.  
> 
> What exactly is it you want that is obtainable given the value of the 
> spectrum?   Handing it over for exclusive use of fixed wireless, and only for 
> you is a non-starter.
> 
> WISPA is trying to help you but it’s pretty hard when you don’t want 
> unlicensed, lightly licensed, and licensed spectrum sells for billions for 
> tiny slices.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>> 
>> On 6/5/17 09:10, mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Another "lightly licensed" MAY work. But just another extension of 
>>> part-15 would be a cluster f*ck.
>> 
>> 
>> Lightly licensed NN was a joke and should not be repeated.
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for opinions on a proposal for PTMP in 6Ghz Part 101 spectrum

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Another "lightly licensed" MAY work. But just another extension of part-15 
would be a cluster f*ck.

> On Jun 5, 2017, at 09:05, David Jones  wrote:
> 
> Wouldn't it be best to have it ruled as some form of intelligent design and 
> not a free for all part 15?
> 
> We are all for more spectrum to USE However, most of us have seen useful 
> spectrum become completely useless by a mass of wifi that was not designed to 
> scale well or play nice with others.
> 
> wouldn't it be in everyone best interest to have some system of coordination 
> so the use of the spectrum can scale?
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:28 AM,  wrote:
>> And also non-WISPS, such as Comcast/Xfinity and every tom, dick and harry 
>> router manafacturer. It'll end up heavily congested with crap, just like 5 
>> Ghz, and become useless.
>> 
>> We'd be shooting ourselves in the foot if we did that.
>> 
>> -Mike
>> 
>> > On Jun 5, 2017, at 08:17, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 6/5/17 8:04 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Read it again.   PTP links are protected in 6Ghz, and would continue to 
>> >> be protected.   Not yet determined (and this is a very long process) is 
>> >> how new PTP links would be established.
>> >>
>> >> WISPA’s long standing and continuing policy is to advocate for more 
>> >> unlicensed spectrum.   It has to come from somewhere,
>> >
>> >
>> > What's going to happen here is you will have two groups: WISPs that use
>> > 6GHz PTP that appreciate part 101, and WISPs that don't care about 6GHz
>> > PTP and just want more unlicensed sandbox.
>> >
>> > That's fine that it has to come from somewhere, but WISPA should not
>> > support taking it from places where harm will be made to WISPs, now or
>> > in the future.
>> >
>> > ~Seth
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for opinions on a proposal for PTMP in 6Ghz Part 101 spectrum

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And also non-WISPS, such as Comcast/Xfinity and every tom, dick and harry 
router manafacturer. It'll end up heavily congested with crap, just like 5 Ghz, 
and become useless.

We'd be shooting ourselves in the foot if we did that.

-Mike

> On Jun 5, 2017, at 08:17, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
> 
>> On 6/5/17 8:04 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>> 
>> Read it again.   PTP links are protected in 6Ghz, and would continue to be 
>> protected.   Not yet determined (and this is a very long process) is how new 
>> PTP links would be established.
>> 
>> WISPA’s long standing and continuing policy is to advocate for more 
>> unlicensed spectrum.   It has to come from somewhere,
> 
> 
> What's going to happen here is you will have two groups: WISPs that use 
> 6GHz PTP that appreciate part 101, and WISPs that don't care about 6GHz 
> PTP and just want more unlicensed sandbox.
> 
> That's fine that it has to come from somewhere, but WISPA should not 
> support taking it from places where harm will be made to WISPs, now or 
> in the future.
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for opinions on a proposal for PTMP in 6Ghz Part 101 spectrum

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You are assuming the competitors do the same... 

> On Jun 5, 2017, at 08:04, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>> 
>> On 6/5/17 4:04 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>>> 
>>> It’s curious that you would give up access to potentially >1000Mhz of 
>>> clean mid-band spectrum because you don’t want your competitors using 
>>> it.   Given the current limited amount of spectrum available for PTMP 
>>> use how do you propose to serve the demands of your customers without 
>>> obtaining additional spectrum?
>>> 
>> 
>> Smaller sites closer to your customers.
> 
> 
> How does that work with the existing spectrum when your competitors also do 
> the same?
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> You said “all licensed PTP links would be at risk”.   I don’t believe 
>>> that is the case here - we are only discussing 6Ghz which is largely 
>>> used (in our industry) for long range legacy PTP links.   It’s certainly 
>>> important where it’s used at Mike Meluskey pointed out, but looking at 
>>> the numbers the band shows pretty light usage.
>> 
>> 
>> If you take away one licensed band it could set a precedent to take 
>> more. I think this proposal is too short sighted to say that nobody uses 
>> it or that it's legacy. It's used. I just talked with a WISP about a 
>> potential 26 mile link and that's territory for considering 6GHz.
>> 
>> I ask the parties that support killing 6GHz with unlicensed use: what 
>> replaces it?
>> 
> 
> 
> Read it again.   PTP links are protected in 6Ghz, and would continue to be 
> protected.   Not yet determined (and this is a very long process) is how new 
> PTP links would be established.
> 
> WISPA’s long standing and continuing policy is to advocate for more 
> unlicensed spectrum.   It has to come from somewhere,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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[WISPA] Kinda OT: fiber suppliers

[mike . lyon]

For those of you that are doing (and terminating your own) fiber, where are you 
buying your bulk (1000ft+) single mode fiber from?

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for opinions on a proposal for PTMP in 6Ghz Part 101 spectrum

[mike . lyon]

+1000

> On Jun 4, 2017, at 16:23, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
> 
>> On 6/2/17 2:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>> I’m interested in opinions on how important 6Ghz PTP links are to the 
>> membership and for those who use them if there would be significant 
>> opposition to using the spectrum for Point to Multipoint.
> 
> 
> I think that if the history of behavior with unlicensed is any 
> indication, then all licensed PTP links will be at risk of seeing 
> substantial interference by idiots and would be at high risk of being 
> forced offline.
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for opinions on a proposal for PTMP in 6Ghz Part 101 spectrum

[Mike Lyon]

6 Ghz PTP is HEAVILY used out here in the SF Bay Area. If I have to see see
more Comcast/Xfinity crap show up in newly unlicensed 6 Ghz, I think I
would shit myself.

-Mike


On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:

> WISPA has been asked to participate in a wireless industry push to explore
> unlicensed use in the current Part 101 6Ghz spectrum.The idea is to
> increase the current Part 15 allowed power limits and to bring in UNII
> rules, along with additional mitigations currently under study (e.g.,
> sensing, database) to protect incumbents.  As there are no federal users
> (other than PTP) this would not require the ESC system of CBRS and is
> potentially considerably simpler to implement.
>
> The upside is significantly more spectrum availability in a high
> power/capacity/range band.   The downside is some potential loss of
> geographic exclusivity and availability of new 6GHz Part 101 PTP links in
> exchange for greater reliance on the use of spectrum sharing mechanisms
> over time.
>
> I’m interested in opinions on how important 6Ghz PTP links are to the
> membership and for those who use them if there would be significant
> opposition to using the spectrum for Point to Multipoint.
>
> Mark
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Re: [WISPA] Harness

[mike . lyon]

Eagle River or Dbi Sala

Check out www.gmesupply.com

Let him pick one out...

-Mike

> On Apr 20, 2017, at 09:14, Kevin Melson  wrote:
> 
> My tower climber is asking for a new climbing harness. All we've ever had is 
> what came with the company when we bought it in 2010. What brands do you 
> recommend?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Kevin Melson
> Eagle One Wireless\PC Station
> 1801 S Harper Rd
> Suite 4A
> Corinth, MS 38834
> 662-287-1722
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Re: [WISPA] Cat6 shieded with Dry Tape

[mike . lyon]

Check out Primus cable. I switched from Shireen to them because of that exact 
issue.

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 09:51, Scott Piehn  wrote:
> 
> Anyone using Cat 6 Outdoor cable, shielded with a dry gel tape.  If so, who 
> makes it
>  
> We have been using the shireen Cat6 shielded, like the cable, but not the 
> water in the cable issue
> 
> 
> 
> -
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[WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies

[mike . lyon]

I know this has been covered a bazillion times but i couldn't find the threads.

I don't need UPS capability. Was there a specific Meanwell line to watch out 
for?

Thank You,
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Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?

[mike . lyon]

Possible to NOT NAT customer traffic on BaiCell?

> On Jun 19, 2016, at 15:49, Matthew Carpenter 
>  wrote:
> 
> The Biacells eNB can be changed to send all customer traffic to the core, or 
> you can send customer traffic to it's local Gateway.
> We have not tried sending all the customer traffic from a Biacells eNB to our 
> Telrad core, but it is something I want to test out.
> 
> The Biacells eNB has NAT turned on for customer traffic when using its local 
> Gateway. 
> 
> Currently Telrad does not support peeling off customer traffic and sending to 
> the its local Gateway.. it all have to go to the Core.
> 
> The Biacells SIM cards will only authenticate with the Biacells Core.  We 
> were not given keys for those SIMs from Biacells.
> A Biacells SIM card will boot up with a Telrad 7000 UE and connect to a 
> Biacells eNB and Biacells Core.
> 
> 
> 
> Matt Carpenter
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Matt Hoppes 
>>  wrote:
>> Local offloading is a standard LTE feature. You do need an a device to do 
>> it, which in guessing Bai has built into their eNB.
>> 
>> > On Jun 19, 2016, at 17:07, Nathan Anderson  wrote:
>> >
>> > So it sounds like you have made Baicells eNB talk to a Breezeway for 
>> > authentication.  Very cool.
>> >
>> > Re: VPLS, I could be wrong (and I haven't actually tried VPLS/VPWS on 
>> > Telrad), but I don't believe the eNB has anything whatsoever to do with 
>> > making that work.  As far as it is concerned, it is just passing user 
>> > traffic.  In the Telrad scenario, I *think* the UE constructs a GRE tunnel 
>> > to the EPC.
>> >
>> > However, the fact that you say that the Baicells eNB does not send user 
>> > traffic to the core but only authenticates against the core might throw a 
>> > monkey wrench into that whole theory.  For Telrad VPLS to work, you need a 
>> > Telrad UE and a Telrad core, and the user traffic clearly needs to go 
>> > to/from the core for that to work.
>> >
>> > How does having the eNB send user traffic directly to your gateway even 
>> > work?? I mean, that makes sense as long as they can get away with it, 
>> > because I think it would be a nightmare, both from the service provider's 
>> > perspective as well as from Baicells' perspective, to have to carry all of 
>> > the user traffic to the cloud and back, but I thought LTE *required* that 
>> > user traffic be tunneled via GTP to the core. Does the Baicells eNB 
>> > implement part of the EPC (likely the SGW and PGW bits) itself?  If you 
>> > wanted to, could you elect to shut those off and have it ship user traffic 
>> > off to an external EPC as well?
>> >
>> > What do you do for SIM cards with Baicells UEs?  Does Baicells provide 
>> > those as well?  Have you tried a Baicells SIM in a Telrad UE and 
>> > vice-versa?
>> >
>> > -- Nathan
>> > 
>> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
>> > Matthew Carpenter [mcarpen...@amarillowireless.net]
>> > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 11:37 AM
>> > To: WISPA General List
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?
>> >
>> > So far I am have able to mix and match the Biacell, and Telrad eNBs and 
>> > UEs.
>> >
>> > Biacell eNB connects to the core with 0 setup.
>> > With only one change it will connect and work with the Telrad core.
>> >
>> > UEs from both Telrad and Biacells work with either eNBs.
>> >
>> > Things to test:
>> > 1. VPLS from the Telrad Core to the Biacells UE using a Telrad eNB
>> > 2. VPLS from the Telrad  Core to the Biacells UE using a Biacells eNB (I 
>> > don't believe this will work. There are some updates to the Biacells eNB 
>> > coming out soon to add VPLS)
>> > 3. Does the Biacells UE support VPLS ?
>> > 4. Does the Biacells UE allow remote management from the Wireless side?
>> > 5. Do all this again with the new 19.5 dB Biscells UE.
>> >
>> > One cool thing is when the Biacells eNB is using the Telrad core it only 
>> > send SIM card authorization to the core.  All customer data goes out to 
>> > its gateway and not to the core.
>> >
>> > Matthew Carpenter
>> > Amarillo Wireless
>> > 806-316-5071
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:03 PM -0500, "Adair Winter" 
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > You just gonna call up baicell and get the info?
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Matt Hoppes 
>> > >
>> >  wrote:
>> > Eh. VPN router.
>> >
>> > On Jun 19, 2016, at 12:57, Adair Winter 
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > probably possible but since it makes some sort of ipsec connection to 
>> > their hosted core, it would be more difficult.
>> >
>> > The other way around works great though.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Matt 

Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT: punching holes in stainless steel enclosures

[mike . lyon]

I use enclosurehub.com

> On Jun 19, 2016, at 15:03, T Maylone  wrote:
> 
> tractor supply 36 x 18 x 18 $219
> 
> all depends on purpose and what you call reasonable
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
> 
> 
> Adair Winter  wrote:
> 
> http://www.amprod.us/t-minifort_enclosures.aspx
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Mitch  wrote:
>> Where are you guys find reasonably priced enclosures?
>> 
>> 
>> Mitch Koep
>> 218-851-8689 cell
>> 
>>> On 06/19/2016 08:36 AM, Scott Carullo wrote:
>>> plasma cutter.  I can make a hole (square for fan or round for whatever) in 
>>> about 10 seconds without any effort and without buying expensive carbide 
>>> bits over and over.  Its my new favorite way :)  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Scott Carullo
>>> Technical Operations
>>> Florida High Speed Internet
>>> (321) 205-1100 x102
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: "Adair Winter" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 9:06 AM
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT: punching holes in stainless steel 
>>> enclosures
>>>  
>>> I best option is to use a knock out/punch kit, like the OP suggested.
>>> Drilling is OK but a step bit can make a real mess of a hole and stainless 
>>> makes it even worse.
>>>  
 On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 7:54 AM, T Maylone 
  wrote:
 slow speed
  
 carbide bit
  
 coolant
  
 let the drill do the work not muscle
  
 sharp bit
  
 easy to sharpen
  
  
  
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
 
 
 "Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net"  wrote:
  
 Stepped bits work great but stainless steel will ruin any bit, so I buy 
 cheap ones from harbor freight as they are dull when the hole is done.  
 This is what I have used, $20 for two piece set instead of $50 for one 
 this size from Lowe's.  These tear through steel too.  I've used on 1/2 
 inch Galvanized I beams with no problem.
  
 http://m.harborfreight.com/2-piece-titanium-nitride-coated-high-speed-steel-step-drills-96275.html
  
 Troy
  
  
 Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
  
  Original message 
 From: Stephen Potter 
 Date: 6/18/16 11:38 PM (GMT-05:00)
 To: WISPA General List 
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT: punching holes in stainless steel 
 enclosures
  
 I have used stepped drill bits with excellent results for drilling holes 
 into sheetmetal/stock.
  
 http://amzn.to/1UhSf7o
  
  
 
  
  
  
 Steve
  
  
  
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Adair Winter 
>  wrote:
> That's exactly what we do. It'll be fine.
>  
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 10:21 PM,  wrote:
>> Howdy.
>> 
>> Ordered a nice new stainless steel outdoor enclosure to house some 
>> equipment. I need to put some 3/4 inch holes in it. Anyone happen to 
>> know if using a regular Klein or  Greenlee punch set will do the trick? 
>> I know they work great on mild steel but wasn't sure about stainless.
>> 
>> Anyone ever done it before?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
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Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?

[mike . lyon]

So if their hosted core takes a sh*t, all your users are down?

> On Jun 19, 2016, at 09:57, Adair Winter  wrote:
> 
> probably possible but since it makes some sort of ipsec connection to their 
> hosted core, it would be more difficult.
> 
> The other way around works great though.
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Matt Hoppes 
>>  wrote:
>> Since LTE is a standard  I wonder if you could hook a Telrad eNB to the 
>> baicells EPC??
>> 
>> *gear spinning*
>> 
>>> On Jun 19, 2016, at 12:20, Adair Winter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Baicells is going to have cheaper hardware but there will be some trade 
>>> offs to other vendors.
>>> for example, no 4x4, do dual carrier, etc.
>>> Also you'll pay per user per month to use their core unless you already 
>>> have one. so look at the long term when pricing.
>>> 
 On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Josh Luthman 
  wrote:
 Baicells referred me to a distributor for pricing.  I asked last week.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
> On Jun 19, 2016 12:18 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
>  wrote:
> I've said too much. I haven't said enough. 
> 
> Ask Patrick for more details on pricing. 
> 
>> On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:59, CBB - Jay Fuller  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> He said "real" good ;)
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Matt Hoppes
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?
>> 
>> As opposed to bad? :P. 
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 08:03, Josh Luthman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> "Good"?
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
 On Jun 18, 2016 8:02 AM, "Matt Hoppes" 
  wrote:
 True. It's good though. Real good. 
 
> On Jun 18, 2016, at 02:24, Chris Ruschmann  
> wrote:
> 
> We all had to sign an NDA. So I'll let the baicells guys answer that 
> one.
> 
> On Jun 17, 2016 9:05 PM,  wrote:
> Whats the pricing like?
> 
>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 19:12, Matt Hoppes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/thewirelessninja/videos/1017353051688688/
>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 21:07, Christian Palecek 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ours*  brain fart.
>>> 
>>> We are deploying in one of our most difficult nlos areas, and 
>>> another in a small town center so we'll have a variety of testing.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>> 
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Christian Palecek 
>>> Date: 6/17/16 7:02 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?
>>> 
>>> We'll have ares up pretty quick, don't have a SU yet though.  Only 
>>> getting one I guess.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>> 
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Chris Ruschmann 
>>> Date: 6/17/16 3:58 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?
>>> 
>>> I should have mine deployed next week as well. Just received the 
>>> gear today.
>>> 
 On Jun 17, 2016 1:11 PM, "Mike Francis" 
  wrote:
 
 By: Douglas Adams
 "Man [has] always assumed that he was more intelligent than 
 dolphins because he had achieved so much-the wheel, New York, wars 
 and so on-while all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in 
 the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had 
 always believed that they were far more intelligent than man-for 
 precisely the same reason."
 
 John Michael Francis II
 JMF Solutions, Inc
 Wavefly Technologies
 Internet - Voip - Cloud
 251-517-5069
 http://jmfsolutions.net
 http://wavefly.com
 
> On 6/17/2016 4:06 PM, Josh 

Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT: punching holes in stainless steel enclosures

[mike . lyon]

Sweet! Thanks guys!

-Mike

> On Jun 18, 2016, at 20:34, Adair Winter  wrote:
> 
> That's exactly what we do. It'll be fine.
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 10:21 PM,  wrote:
>> Howdy.
>> 
>> Ordered a nice new stainless steel outdoor enclosure to house some 
>> equipment. I need to put some 3/4 inch holes in it. Anyone happen to know if 
>> using a regular Klein or  Greenlee punch set will do the trick? I know they 
>> work great on mild steel but wasn't sure about stainless.
>> 
>> Anyone ever done it before?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
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[WISPA] Slightly OT: punching holes in stainless steel enclosures

[mike . lyon]

Howdy.

Ordered a nice new stainless steel outdoor enclosure to house some equipment. I 
need to put some 3/4 inch holes in it. Anyone happen to know if using a regular 
Klein or  Greenlee punch set will do the trick? I know they work great on mild 
steel but wasn't sure about stainless.

Anyone ever done it before?

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?

[mike . lyon]

Whats the pricing like?

> On Jun 17, 2016, at 19:12, Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/thewirelessninja/videos/1017353051688688/
> 
>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 21:07, Christian Palecek  wrote:
>> 
>> Ours*  brain fart.
>> 
>> We are deploying in one of our most difficult nlos areas, and another in a 
>> small town center so we'll have a variety of testing.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Christian Palecek 
>> Date: 6/17/16 7:02 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> To: WISPA General List 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?
>> 
>> We'll have ares up pretty quick, don't have a SU yet though.  Only getting 
>> one I guess.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Chris Ruschmann 
>> Date: 6/17/16 3:58 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> To: WISPA General List 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?
>> 
>> I should have mine deployed next week as well. Just received the gear today.
>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2016 1:11 PM, "Mike Francis"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> By: Douglas Adams
>>> "Man [has] always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins 
>>> because he had achieved so much-the wheel, New York, wars and so on-while 
>>> all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good 
>>> time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far 
>>> more intelligent than man-for precisely the same reason."
>>> 
>>> John Michael Francis II
>>> JMF Solutions, Inc
>>> Wavefly Technologies
>>> Internet - Voip - Cloud
>>> 251-517-5069
>>> http://jmfsolutions.net
>>> http://wavefly.com
>>> 
 On 6/17/2016 4:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Anxiously awaiting your results...and a quote!
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Mike Francis  
> wrote:
> We received our first shipment of gear this week and plan on beginning
> deployment next week. Will let you guys know. We are doing a mix-use
> test roll out with a gov cyber task force, so it will be well documented.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> John Michael Francis II
> JMF Solutions, Inc
> Wavefly Technologies
> Internet - Voip - Cloud
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> http://jmfsolutions.net
> http://wavefly.com
> 
> On 6/17/2016 3:05 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> > I believe the canary would say people have deployed but can not speak
> > yet :P  Watch lists and Facebook, I'm sure details will forth come very
> > soon.
> >
> > On 6/17/16 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >> Does anyone besides the guys in Amarillo have this gear deployed?  Care
> >> to comment on/off list?
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?

[mike . lyon]

Anyone know what the price looks like? Better than telrad?

> On Jun 17, 2016, at 12:41, Adair Winter  wrote:
> 
> Baicell is only available in 3.65 at this point.
> We haven't pushed it yet but so far so good.
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Josh Luthman  
>> wrote:
>> I'm mostly concerned about 3.65 if that changes anything.
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:27 PM,  wrote:
>>> And what freq they running it on?
>>> 
 On Jun 17, 2016, at 12:26, Clay Stewart 
  wrote:
 
 Same question.
 
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman 
>  wrote:
> Does anyone besides the guys in Amarillo have this gear deployed?  Care 
> to comment on/off list?
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?

[mike . lyon]

And what freq they running it on?

> On Jun 17, 2016, at 12:26, Clay Stewart 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for service

[Mike Lyon]

Which is odd, because Manteca at 205 and 99 DOES smell like a bathroom.

Think they accidentally swapped the names...
On Nov 14, 2014 10:46 AM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote:

  A stones throw from our office in Salida (Exit) which sits on the county
 line, and about an hour from Los Banos (the bathrooms).  I'm sure I'm
 missing some, buts omeone sure had a sense of humor.

 -Kristian

 On 11/14/2014 09:54 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:

  Manteca! Wow that translate to Lard in spanish…



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 www.aeronetpr.com
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   From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Friday, November 14, 2014 at 1:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking for service

   Looking for 10 meg

  1640 West Yosemite Blvd.
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for service

[Mike Lyon]

Yes, it actually is because of a particular stockyard right at that
intersection next to the sugar factory and train tracks.

Moo.

-Mike


On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Tim Kerns t...@cv-access.com wrote:

   Manteca in the early 80’s had stockyards

  The smell is most likely residual...

   *From:* Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Friday, November 14, 2014 11:07 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Looking for service


 Which is odd, because Manteca at 205 and 99 DOES smell like a bathroom.

 Think they accidentally swapped the names...
 On Nov 14, 2014 10:46 AM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote:

  A stones throw from our office in Salida (Exit) which sits on the
 county line, and about an hour from Los Banos (the bathrooms).  I'm sure
 I'm missing some, buts omeone sure had a sense of humor.

 -Kristian

 On 11/14/2014 09:54 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:

  Manteca! Wow that translate to Lard in spanish…



 Gino A. Villarini
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 From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Friday, November 14, 2014 at 1:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking for service

   Looking for 10 meg

 1640 West Yosemite Blvd.
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for service

[Mike Lyon]

Manteca does have some redeeming qualities, though.

Bass Pro Shops!

-Mike

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, it actually is because of a particular stockyard right at that
 intersection next to the sugar factory and train tracks.

 Moo.

 -Mike


 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Tim Kerns t...@cv-access.com wrote:

   Manteca in the early 80’s had stockyards

  The smell is most likely residual...

   *From:* Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Friday, November 14, 2014 11:07 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Looking for service


 Which is odd, because Manteca at 205 and 99 DOES smell like a bathroom.

 Think they accidentally swapped the names...
 On Nov 14, 2014 10:46 AM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com
 wrote:

  A stones throw from our office in Salida (Exit) which sits on the
 county line, and about an hour from Los Banos (the bathrooms).  I'm sure
 I'm missing some, buts omeone sure had a sense of humor.

 -Kristian

 On 11/14/2014 09:54 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:

  Manteca! Wow that translate to Lard in spanish…



 Gino A. Villarini
 President
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 www.aeronetpr.com
 @aeronetpr



 From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Friday, November 14, 2014 at 1:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking for service

   Looking for 10 meg

 1640 West Yosemite Blvd.
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for service

[Mike Lyon]

Totally should!



On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com
wrote:

  We should have a mini-meet at the black bear, since we all seem to be
 close enough to smell the same stink. ;-)

 -Kristian


 On 11/14/2014 11:37 AM, Mike Lyon wrote:

 Yes, it actually is because of a particular stockyard right at that
 intersection next to the sugar factory and train tracks.

  Moo.

  -Mike


 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Tim Kerns t...@cv-access.com wrote:

   Manteca in the early 80’s had stockyards

  The smell is most likely residual...

   *From:* Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Friday, November 14, 2014 11:07 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Looking for service


 Which is odd, because Manteca at 205 and 99 DOES smell like a bathroom.

 Think they accidentally swapped the names...
 On Nov 14, 2014 10:46 AM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com
 wrote:

  A stones throw from our office in Salida (Exit) which sits on the
 county line, and about an hour from Los Banos (the bathrooms).  I'm sure
 I'm missing some, buts omeone sure had a sense of humor.

 -Kristian

 On 11/14/2014 09:54 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:

  Manteca! Wow that translate to Lard in spanish…



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 President
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 www.aeronetpr.com
 @aeronetpr



  From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Friday, November 14, 2014 at 1:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking for service

   Looking for 10 meg

 1640 West Yosemite Blvd.
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for service

[Mike Lyon]

Damn! How many WISPs are out there in the valley?

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Chris Wright ch...@velociter.net wrote:

 We have Manteca covered easily at that speed. Feel free to contact me off
 list.



 Chris Wright

 Velociter Wireless http://www.velociter.net/



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 Behalf Of *John Thomas
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 Looking for 10 meg



 1640 West Yosemite Blvd.

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Re: [WISPA] Looking for service

[Mike Lyon]

I am.

-mike


On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com
wrote:

  Cool.  I'll set something up.  Are you guys all on the California list?

 -Kristian


 On 11/14/2014 11:55 AM, Mike Lyon wrote:

 Totally should!



 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com
 wrote:

  We should have a mini-meet at the black bear, since we all seem to be
 close enough to smell the same stink. ;-)

 -Kristian


 On 11/14/2014 11:37 AM, Mike Lyon wrote:

 Yes, it actually is because of a particular stockyard right at that
 intersection next to the sugar factory and train tracks.

  Moo.

  -Mike


 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Tim Kerns t...@cv-access.com wrote:

   Manteca in the early 80’s had stockyards

  The smell is most likely residual...

   *From:* Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Friday, November 14, 2014 11:07 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Looking for service


 Which is odd, because Manteca at 205 and 99 DOES smell like a bathroom.

 Think they accidentally swapped the names...
 On Nov 14, 2014 10:46 AM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com
 wrote:

  A stones throw from our office in Salida (Exit) which sits on the
 county line, and about an hour from Los Banos (the bathrooms).  I'm sure
 I'm missing some, buts omeone sure had a sense of humor.

 -Kristian

 On 11/14/2014 09:54 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:

  Manteca! Wow that translate to Lard in spanish…



 Gino A. Villarini
 President
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 www.aeronetpr.com
 @aeronetpr



  From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Friday, November 14, 2014 at 1:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking for service

   Looking for 10 meg

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Re: [WISPA] Anyone serving Pompey NY? PR for WISPA

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Yeah, it is pathetic.
On Nov 8, 2014 8:39 AM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote:

 And I know someone in San Ramon that the business complex is across the
 street from Comcast. They want $10,000 to cross the street.

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 That would be awesome if someone could shoot him a wireless link.

 Though, i have customers out here in silicon valley where Comcast has
 quoted them $120k in construction costs to pull coax a single mile up a
 road...

 -Mike
 On Nov 7, 2014 9:13 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

  This would be a huge PR stunt foe WISPs and WISPA! Lets give this guy
 free service for couple of months!


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Re: [WISPA] Anyone serving Pompey NY? PR for WISPA

[Mike Lyon]

That would be awesome if someone could shoot him a wireless link.

Though, i have customers out here in silicon valley where Comcast has
quoted them $120k in construction costs to pull coax a single mile up a
road...

-Mike
On Nov 7, 2014 9:13 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

  This would be a huge PR stunt foe WISPs and WISPA! Lets give this guy
 free service for couple of months!


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[WISPA] UB8D voltage usually seen?

[Mike Lyon]

Howdy!

On these UB8D 12vdc batteries, would you expect to see 12vdc or something
closer to 13.8 like you would with a car battery?

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Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

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Not this WISP...

-Mike

On Thursday, July 31, 2014, Tim Densmore tdensm...@tarpit.cybermesa.com
wrote:

  On 07/31/2014 11:15 AM, Joe Fiero wrote:

 Netflix, Hulu, and the like have created a business model where they have
 no cost to deliver a product to their users.  They are using the
 infrastructure built and paid for by others, then stirring up the ignorant
 masses to complain to the FCC about the free Internet.

 Hi Folks,

 Just a question - is this the general consensus among list members?  I ask
 because in a recent similar thread on the NANOG list there was a WISP owner
 presenting the same argument.  I'm curious whether this is the viewpoint
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Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

[Mike Lyon]

And that was an extremely painful thread on NANOG, BTW

On Thursday, July 31, 2014, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not this WISP...

 -Mike

 On Thursday, July 31, 2014, Tim Densmore tdensm...@tarpit.cybermesa.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tdensm...@tarpit.cybermesa.com'); wrote:

  On 07/31/2014 11:15 AM, Joe Fiero wrote:

 Netflix, Hulu, and the like have created a business model where they have
 no cost to deliver a product to their users.  They are using the
 infrastructure built and paid for by others, then stirring up the ignorant
 masses to complain to the FCC about the free Internet.

 Hi Folks,

 Just a question - is this the general consensus among list members?  I
 ask because in a recent similar thread on the NANOG list there was a WISP
 owner presenting the same argument.  I'm curious whether this is the
 viewpoint held by many WISPs.

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Re: [WISPA] TowerCoverage.Com - New Feature - Link Groups

[Mike Lyon]

Whats the name of the android app?


On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote:

 There is a button on your multi map now called Link Group.

 It is also part of the android app.  If you point your phone camera down
 and click the blue button, enable multi link, it turns on augmented
 reality and you can look around with your phone for direction and
 distance to towers.

 Jim

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 So I don't understand where you go to turn this on on a multimap?


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 On 6/17/14, 12:50 PM, LTI - Dennis Burgess wrote:
  For those who have asked, we have just updated our system and added
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  on the link shows you your link path analysis instantly!
 
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

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Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget...
On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second).

 Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity...

 So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.

 How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?

  Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have
 to describe your network a bit

 Bridged ? Routed ?
 What is doing Traffic Shaping ?

 How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.

 I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing..

 :)

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 *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put

 Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of
 these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

 What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when
 they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed
 tests to the radios and they look ok.

 Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

 Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to
 one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried
 to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not
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 Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the
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 We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but
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Re: [WISPA] Odd Speed Results

[Mike Lyon]

How do the interfaces look? Are they negotiating to 100/full on all
sides? Any interface errors accruing on any of the devices?



 On Apr 7, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote:

 I have a link using 2 PowerBridges that is about 2.4 miles.  I can get
 56M TCP across the link using the UBNT speed test.
 I have several MTs on one side of the link and a RouterMaxx running MT
 on the other side of the link.  The best I can get between the MTs is
 10M.  The processors are at  30% on each side.
 I am at a total loss as to why I get the radically different speeds.  I
 can not anything that looks odd.  The link used to work really well.
 Not sure when this issue started, but I am thinking it may be getting
 progressively worse.
 Any idea what I should be looking for?

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Re: [WISPA] Odd Speed Results

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Check the cable and hard set the interfaces if you can.

Cheers,
Mike



 On Apr 7, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote:

 Oops, look at the right stuff.  760,000,000 tx errors in 79 days on the
 wire from the RouterMaxx to the PowerBridge.
 Guess I know where the problem may be.
 On 4/7/2014 9:49 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
 All are 100/full
 No errors

 On 4/7/2014 9:42 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
 How do the interfaces look? Are they negotiating to 100/full on all
 sides? Any interface errors accruing on any of the devices?



 On Apr 7, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote:

 I have a link using 2 PowerBridges that is about 2.4 miles.  I can get
 56M TCP across the link using the UBNT speed test.
 I have several MTs on one side of the link and a RouterMaxx running MT
 on the other side of the link.  The best I can get between the MTs is
 10M.  The processors are at  30% on each side.
 I am at a total loss as to why I get the radically different speeds.  I
 can not anything that looks odd.  The link used to work really well.
 Not sure when this issue started, but I am thinking it may be getting
 progressively worse.
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone use these?

[Mike Lyon]

Didja check Solid Signal?



On Mar 11, 2014, at 9:52 AM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com wrote:

 image[1].png
My guys have been using the piss out of these for the last few years.
Creates a real stable mount to and adjusts real nicely to the pitch of your
standard fascia. Anyways this company, GEM, has quit manufacturing them. If
anyone else uses a similar device and knows who might have some in stock
that would be great. Maybe something Wireless Beehive could make

thanks
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[WISPA] CableWIFI?

[Mike Lyon]

Startting to see this SSID pop up around town.

How is this conglomerate setting up it's APs? Are the likes of comcast
and such just adding add'l SSIDs to users gateways / cable modems or
are they actually deploying dedicated infrastructure?

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Re: [WISPA] CableWIFI?

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Oh yay! More noise!



On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:58, Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com wrote:

They are Ruckus AP's broadcasting at FULL POWER.   These AP's are mostly
Strand mount ap's.  7782's.


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 Startting to see this SSID pop up around town.

 How is this conglomerate setting up it's APs? Are the likes of comcast
 and such just adding add'l SSIDs to users gateways / cable modems or
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Re: [WISPA] Possible to export KML out of Tower Coverage?

[Mike Lyon]

Thank you Dennis :)



On Dec 2, 2013, at 12:06, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:

Mike,



Currently UBNT's site don't accept the KMLs that we generate.   We are
working with them to directly import it into their system, but they are
saying they won't get to it till the end of the year.. :(  We are working
with them, simply put, most of our maps have more polygons than they are
used to therefore their size limit prevents most of our maps from being
imported..  :)   But we are working on it with them.  Our system is 99%
done...



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Anyone know if it's possible to export a KML out of Tower Coverage?



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[WISPA] Best way to attach to a steel, pre-fab, building?

[Mike Lyon]

What is the bast way to attach a mount for a rocket dish to a steel,
pre-fab, building? Simple mount and just lag bolts into the steel or is
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[WISPA] Possible to export KML out of Tower Coverage?

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Anyone know if it's possible to export a KML out of Tower Coverage?

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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

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Chris,

Besides GlobalLTE, who else makes a decent TEG?

Thanks,
Mike



 On Nov 26, 2013, at 10:20, Christopher Erickson 
 christopher.k.erick...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, it DOES matter how cold it is.

 Propane won't create gas pressure below -43.6F and many propane gas pressure
 regulators will ice up and stop working below about +20F.

 This isn't a problem for many locations but it is still important to know
 what the limits are.

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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

 I had 5120 TEGS powering 7 mountaintop sites for about 8 years before I sold

 the system. As long as there is propane, they work. No moving parts, very
 little maintenance. It doesn't matter how cold or hot it is, they just work
 . Simple power that provides heat for the radio shack as well.

 Terry

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 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

 Who was this from?

 Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG.

 ryan

 On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
 So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
 plus a $300 mount.


 It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
 Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal...

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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

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Which TEG do you have?



On Nov 26, 2013, at 10:26, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net wrote:

 *Someone* lives in Florida and does not need a Snowcat or Snowmachine to
get to his sites...

Sometimes paying a little extra for always on and always working is a good
thing. The maintenance on the TEG I have running is:
light
let run for 1-5 years
clean jets
relight
repeat.

No moving parts and always working is a bonus. :)

ryan

On 11/26/13 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote:

Remember, I can buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :)

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
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*Subject*: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

Who was this from?

Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG.

ryan

On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
 So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
 plus a $300 mount.


 It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

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Ubnt should start making TEGs... The market needs some disruption...



On Nov 26, 2013, at 17:27, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:

Some of mine use 25 or 30 watts (5 UBNT radios and an RB750). If you add
some licensed backhauls and a couple CCRs, though, and it'll add up real
quick.



-
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*Sent: *Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:36:15 PM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

We use a lot more then 100w though  typical tower has two licensed
links, 6 sectors, a few other unlicensed backhauls and two 24 port hp
switches with 2 SPFs each, a router, thermal fans on two separate boxes, 3
DLI remote rebooters etc

How do you get away with 100w of power at a tower site?

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
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*Subject*: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

*Someone* lives in Florida and does not need a Snowcat or Snowmachine to
get to his sites...

Sometimes paying a little extra for always on and always working is a good
thing. The maintenance on the TEG I have running is:
light
let run for 1-5 years
clean jets
relight
repeat.

No moving parts and always working is a bonus. :)

ryan

On 11/26/13 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote:

Remember, I can buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :)

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102



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*Subject*: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

Who was this from?

Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG.

ryan

On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
 So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
 plus a $300 mount.


 It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
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[WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

[Mike Lyon]

So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
plus a $300 mount.


It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal...

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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

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Except to refuel it :)

http://www.globalte.com

With a genset, you are not looking at any major maintenance, maybe a
few hours / year. and if it dies , you buy another one and you are
still under the amount a TEG would cost. Hell, you could buy 4 gensets
for the price of a TEG.

Me thinks its a ripoff even though i think they are cool...

-Mike



 On Nov 25, 2013, at 21:15, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net wrote:

 Who was this from?

 Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG.

 ryan

 On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
 So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
 plus a $300 mount.


 It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
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Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators

[Mike Lyon]

That looks pretty cool. I dug into it a little deeper to see where they are
getting the TEGs from:

http://www.globalte.com/products/GlobalTEGs/

I am wondering if one of these TEGs would be cheaper than getting a propane
generator at ~$1900

I am going to request a quote...

-Mike



On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Terry Hickey li...@khtech.ca wrote:

   Check this out

 http://www.neverfailsolar.com/


   *From:* Jerry Richardson (airCloud) jrichard...@aircloud.com
 *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2013 11:24 AM
 *To:* sc...@brevardwireless.com ; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators
  Check it out

 http://www.norwall.com/products/Generac-7kW-Air-Cooled-Standby-CorePower-System-Package.html?gdftrk=gdfV23267_a_7c1096_a_7c3327_a_7c5837gclid=CK7y7ceB-boCFWxo7Aodg1AAaQ


 On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Scott Carullo 
 sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:

 Oops, you need an ATS
 Generac and others makes one about $2500 total we have not found anything
 smaller that is a complete automatic unit.

 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 855-FLSPEED x102



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 *Sent*: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:00 AM
 *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject*: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators

 While on my constant quest of trying to figure out my wonderful power
 situation, it made me think to look up LP/Propane generators.

 I found a pretty cool little RV one made by Cummins:

 http://goo.gl/ZSrscl

 Get one of these, drop it into a JOBOX or the alike, and problem solved!

 Off to go find the price for it...

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Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators

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Will do, then maybe we could get a bulk WISPA deal :)

-Mike



On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:

 Report back what you find  If we all call they might increase the
 price due to popular demand :)


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 *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators


 That looks pretty cool. I dug into it a little deeper to see where they
 are getting the TEGs from:

 http://www.globalte.com/products/GlobalTEGs/

 I am wondering if one of these TEGs would be cheaper than getting a
 propane generator at ~$1900

 I am going to request a quote...

 -Mike



 On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Terry Hickey li...@khtech.ca wrote:

   Check this out

 http://www.neverfailsolar.com/


   *From:* Jerry Richardson (airCloud) jrichard...@aircloud.com
 *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2013 11:24 AM
 *To:* sc...@brevardwireless.com ; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators
  Check it out

 http://www.norwall.com/products/Generac-7kW-Air-Cooled-Standby-CorePower-System-Package.html?gdftrk=gdfV23267_a_7c1096_a_7c3327_a_7c5837gclid=CK7y7ceB-boCFWxo7Aodg1AAaQ


 On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com
  wrote:

 Oops, you need an ATS
 Generac and others makes one about $2500 total we have not found
 anything smaller that is a complete automatic unit.

 Scott Carullo
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 *Subject*: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators

 While on my constant quest of trying to figure out my wonderful power
 situation, it made me think to look up LP/Propane generators.

 I found a pretty cool little RV one made by Cummins:

 http://goo.gl/ZSrscl

 Get one of these, drop it into a JOBOX or the alike, and problem solved!

 Off to go find the price for it...

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[WISPA] LP / Propane generators

[Mike Lyon]

While on my constant quest of trying to figure out my wonderful power
situation, it made me think to look up LP/Propane generators.

I found a pretty cool little RV one made by Cummins:

http://goo.gl/ZSrscl

Get one of these, drop it into a JOBOX or the alike, and problem solved!

Off to go find the price for it...

-Mike


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Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators

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Found the price. About $2450. Not too bad. Beats running up to the hill @
1am to swap batteries and trying not to get the truck stuck in the mud...

-Mike



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 Those were kinda of pricey iirc

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


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  While on my constant quest of trying to figure out my wonderful power
situation, it made me think to look up LP/Propane generators.

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Re: [WISPA] Solat panels: series or parallel?

[Mike Lyon]

First off, thank you all for all of the wonderful input!

Secondly, i went back and re-calc'd the load. It's actually 2.1 amps @
24vdc (not 5 amps as i previously stated).

What are the formulas (or websites) folks are using when sizing out
solar systems?

Thank You,
Mike



 On Nov 20, 2013, at 7:18, Eric Flanery eflan...@fsr.com wrote:

 A couple more thoughts...

 5a/24v load on 600w of panel... That puts you at 5 hours of full sun, per 
 day, just to cover the load. Unless you are close to the equator, that 
 doesn't leave much for increasing the charge on the batteries. If you go even 
 a few days without full sun, it will take quite some time for the batteries 
 to recover.

 If you do go ahead and add more panels, and switch to a mppt controller, I'd 
 wire those in series as well, to 72v or 96v nominal. Most mppt controllers 
 can handle 150v, but you don't want to get too close to that, as panel output 
 can easily exceed their nominal rating. There are now mppts that can handle 
 600v, but I have no experience with those.

 Regarding tracking arrays, I wouldn't consider them unless space is at a huge 
 premium, and the site is easily accessible for repair. You will almost 
 certainly get a better bang for your buck by spending the money on additional 
 panels, rather than trackers.

 --Eric

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 Behalf Of Robert
 Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:57 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solat panels: series or parallel?

 Eric has the idea spot on, I'll follow up with what a lot of
 off-gridders around here in N. Nevada had tutored me on.   That is the
 losses and controlling them.  Number one with a bullet is loss from
 throwing electrons down wires..   You know it from poe losses and it's a
 100 times worse in solar applications.   The biggest gain through using
 serial panels is in reduction of current loss through the wires between
 the panels and to the charge controller.   You would have to have
 monster wires to be as efficient as 3 amps down reasonably sized wires
 at 120 volts as 15 amps at 24.   And as you go from the charge
 controller to the batteries and you eat away your 5 amps ( at 24 Volts?
  That is Big ) you still have 10 amps between the controller and your
 batteries.   Get Very Large Cables, as large as the controller will
 accept.   MPPT controllers are the ticket unless you have tracking
 arrays, in which case the guys here go back to pwm for better results.
 I haven't figured out why, they just show me the numbers that show it.
   MPPT controllers running in serial also have the advantage that you
 can mix and match your panels without losing the output of your large
 panels into the small ones..

 Lastly we angle our panels in the winter to the lowest sun angles as
 that is when the transit is shortest and the need the greatest.

 Robert

 On 11/19/2013 09:18 PM, Eric Flanery wrote:
 I'd replace the controller with a mppt model, wire the panels in series
 (to 48v nominal), and leave the battery bank at 24v.

 Decoupling the panel voltage from the charging voltage let's you start
 charging a bit earlier, and keep charging a bit longer; plus mppt is a
 bit more efficient than pwm.

 Most importantly, it let's you double your panels (which is your best
 bet overall), without having to increase the gauge of your wiring.

 --Eric


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 Date:11/19/2013 8:29 PM (GMT-08:00)
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solat panels: series or parallel?

 And it has about a 5 amp load...



 On Nov 19, 2013, at 20:23, Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net wrote:

 You probably need more Sun,   or less load.
 It sounds like you have it wired correctly.
 The panels should tilt south about the same angle as your Lattitude.
 Up here on the canadian border we are at 48 degrees lattitude so the
 panels tilt about 45 degrees.
 In the summer they lay flat.

 Gary



 On 11/19/2013 7:43 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
 So i'm trying to figure out what i need more of, voltage or current?

 I have 2x,  300 watt, 24vdc panels. I currently have them wired in
 parallel to a Morningstar SS20L-24 which in turn is hooked up to 4
 banks of 2x 12vdc deep cycle batteries (for a 24vdc system). I plan on
 replacing these batteries soon with UB4Ds or something similiar.

 What would be best to keep these beasts charged? The solar panels
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[WISPA] Solat panels: series or parallel?

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So i'm trying to figure out what i need more of, voltage or current?

I have 2x,  300 watt, 24vdc panels. I currently have them wired in
parallel to a Morningstar SS20L-24 which in turn is hooked up to 4
banks of 2x 12vdc deep cycle batteries (for a 24vdc system). I plan on
replacing these batteries soon with UB4Ds or something similiar.

What would be best to keep these beasts charged? The solar panels
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And it has about a 5 amp load...



 On Nov 19, 2013, at 20:23, Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net wrote:

 You probably need more Sun,   or less load.
 It sounds like you have it wired correctly.
 The panels should tilt south about the same angle as your Lattitude.
 Up here on the canadian border we are at 48 degrees lattitude so the
 panels tilt about 45 degrees.
 In the summer they lay flat.

 Gary



 On 11/19/2013 7:43 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
 So i'm trying to figure out what i need more of, voltage or current?

 I have 2x,  300 watt, 24vdc panels. I currently have them wired in
 parallel to a Morningstar SS20L-24 which in turn is hooked up to 4
 banks of 2x 12vdc deep cycle batteries (for a 24vdc system). I plan on
 replacing these batteries soon with UB4Ds or something similiar.

 What would be best to keep these beasts charged? The solar panels
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[WISPA] Batteries for solar

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Anyone ever use Sacred Sun batteries? They have a 12vdc / 200ah
battery for about $240 vs the ub4d 12vdc / 200ah battery @ $411

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Re: [WISPA] Batteries for solar

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True. I need 8 of them. Maybe i could get lucky and they have them in stock
in a local warehouse :)



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Shipping is what can kill you with batteries. If you have amazon prime they
will ship the ub4d for free.

Which battery can you source for the cheepest shipping?

Sean

On Thursday, November 14, 2013, Mike Lyon wrote:

 Anyone ever use Sacred Sun batteries? They have a 12vdc / 200ah
 battery for about $240 vs the ub4d 12vdc / 200ah battery @ $411

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[WISPA] Network enabled solar controllers

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What is everyone using?

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Re: [WISPA] Network enabled solar controllers

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The Tristar MPPT? http://www.morningstarcorp.com/en/tristar%20mppt ?

-Mike



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 Morningstar MPPT controller + packetflux base II + packetflux morningstar
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Re: [WISPA] Network enabled solar controllers

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How many panels you running?


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 No we use the SunSaver MPPT line, cheaper one.


 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Tristar MPPT? http://www.morningstarcorp.com/en/tristar%20mppt ?

 -Mike



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 Morningstar MPPT controller + packetflux base II + packetflux
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Re: [WISPA] Network enabled solar controllers

[Mike Lyon]

I'm in the same boat. Currently have a 300 watt panel but I think it's time
to get another 300 watt panel...

Thanks!
Mike



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 300W currently, really need to increase to 400W.


 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 How many panels you running?


 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 No we use the SunSaver MPPT line, cheaper one.


 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Tristar MPPT? http://www.morningstarcorp.com/en/tristar%20mppt ?

 -Mike



 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.comwrote:

 Morningstar MPPT controller + packetflux base II + packetflux
 morningstar interface


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 What is everyone using?

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Re: [WISPA] Network enabled solar controllers

[Mike Lyon]

I'm looking at the MPPT-45...


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Eric Flanery eflan...@fsr.com wrote:

 We use the MorningStar TriStar MPPT-60.

 ModBus over TCP was a bit of a pain to get working; but once it is setup,
 it works great.

 We did have a problem where the units would revert to their default IP
 addresses, months later, for no apparent reason. All other settings stuck.
 We worked around this by just letting them keep their default IP, and
 re-mapped it via NAT at the router.

 No problems on the charging side, and the custom cutoff feature is awesome.

 --Eric

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Re: [WISPA] Network enabled solar controllers

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Yeah, that's the downside :(




On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Eric Flanery eflan...@fsr.com wrote:

 The MPPT-45 doesn’t have an Ethernet interface, so you would need an
 additional device to bridge ModBus.



 --Eric



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 I'm looking at the MPPT-45...



 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Eric Flanery eflan...@fsr.com wrote:

 We use the MorningStar TriStar MPPT-60.

 ModBus over TCP was a bit of a pain to get working; but once it is setup,
 it works great.

 We did have a problem where the units would revert to their default IP
 addresses, months later, for no apparent reason. All other settings stuck.
 We worked around this by just letting them keep their default IP, and
 re-mapped it via NAT at the router.

 No problems on the charging side, and the custom cutoff feature is awesome.

 --Eric


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Re: [WISPA] Network enabled solar controllers

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Good point. I may go that route instead. I was just looking at the
footprint of it, The 60 looks much larger...


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Eric Flanery eflan...@fsr.com wrote:

 Since the price difference between the 45 and the 60 is only ~$100, it
 seemed well worth it. An Ethernet-ModBus bridge would cost nearly that
 much, and we wanted to avoid extra complexity.



 Having the extra controller capacity also allows us to add a few extra
 panels in the future, if needed, without significant re-wiring.



 --Eric



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 Yeah, that's the downside :(







 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Eric Flanery eflan...@fsr.com wrote:

 The MPPT-45 doesn’t have an Ethernet interface, so you would need an
 additional device to bridge ModBus.



 --Eric



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 I'm looking at the MPPT-45...



 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Eric Flanery eflan...@fsr.com wrote:

 We use the MorningStar TriStar MPPT-60.

 ModBus over TCP was a bit of a pain to get working; but once it is setup,
 it works great.

 We did have a problem where the units would revert to their default IP
 addresses, months later, for no apparent reason. All other settings stuck.
 We worked around this by just letting them keep their default IP, and
 re-mapped it via NAT at the router.

 No problems on the charging side, and the custom cutoff feature is awesome.

 --Eric


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Re: [WISPA] Network enabled solar controllers

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Trying to figure out if they are waterproof. Would make life much easier if
I could mount it outside...


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Eric Flanery eflan...@fsr.com wrote:

 I think they are actually the same physical size, and use the same case.



 Perhaps the heat sink is larger.



 --Eric



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 Good point. I may go that route instead. I was just looking at the
 footprint of it, The 60 looks much larger...



 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Eric Flanery eflan...@fsr.com wrote:

 Since the price difference between the 45 and the 60 is only ~$100, it
 seemed well worth it. An Ethernet-ModBus bridge would cost nearly that
 much, and we wanted to avoid extra complexity.



 Having the extra controller capacity also allows us to add a few extra
 panels in the future, if needed, without significant re-wiring.



 --Eric



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 Yeah, that's the downside :(







 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Eric Flanery eflan...@fsr.com wrote:

 The MPPT-45 doesn’t have an Ethernet interface, so you would need an
 additional device to bridge ModBus.



 --Eric



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 I'm looking at the MPPT-45...



 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Eric Flanery eflan...@fsr.com wrote:

 We use the MorningStar TriStar MPPT-60.

 ModBus over TCP was a bit of a pain to get working; but once it is setup,
 it works great.

 We did have a problem where the units would revert to their default IP
 addresses, months later, for no apparent reason. All other settings stuck.
 We worked around this by just letting them keep their default IP, and
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 No problems on the charging side, and the custom cutoff feature is awesome.

 --Eric


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Re: [WISPA] Any TESSCO reps on here?

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I need help getting a credit taken care od since their customer service
people are useless...

-mike


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Haven't talk to him in ages, but here's what I have written down:

Account Rep:

   - Bruce Good
   - go...@tessco.com
   - Call 800.508.5444, hit 1 for sales and ask for x1571



Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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 I have an account, have no idea who my rep is, last time I called in for a
 quote on a special accessory, never heard back.


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 Looking for one or are you looking to hear from one subscribed to this
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 If you make an account, you'll be given a rep.  They tend to rotate a
 little bit in my experience.


 Josh Luthman
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 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Contact me too TESSCO rep.


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[WISPA] Any TESSCO reps on here?

[Mike Lyon]

If so, please contact me offlist.

Thank You,
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[WISPA] SAF Lumina CFIP first time connect

[Mike Lyon]

Howdy!

So anyone ever fired up SAF Lumina for the first time and try to
access it via 192.168.205.10 (or .11 for high side) and not be able to
ping it or get into it?

Laptop is set for 192.168.205.1 / 255.255.255.0

Help!

Thanks,
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[WISPA] Batteries?

[Mike Lyon]

What is everyones favorite 12vdc battery for there solar sites? I
believe Interstate is a WISPA vendor member, correct?

-Mike
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[WISPA] NPRM for an Commscope ValueLine 3ft, 6 Ghz, drum?

[Mike Lyon]

What are folks using out there for a NPRM for the 6 Ghz, 3ft, Commscope
drum?

Thanks,
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[WISPA] Fwd: Bandwidth for a weekend @ Gaylord National Harbor, DC metro area

[Mike Lyon]

In case anyone can help. Contact him directly.

-Mike


Begin forwarded message:

 From: telmn...@757.org
 Date: September 16, 2013, 20:00:38 PDT
 To: na...@nanog.org
 Subject: Bandwidth for a weekend @ Gaylord National Harbor, DC metro area
 
 I help with an event at the Gaylord at National Harbor in Maryland. It's a 
 music and video gaming festival. The network team for the event is looking 
 for options on getting bandwidth for ~5 days across a weekend at the hotel. 
 RF or handoff in building.
 
 The large array of clearwire modems isn't cutting it any more.
 
 Looking for pointers I can give them. Please email off-list.
 
 Thanks!
 
- Ethan O'Toole
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

[Mike Lyon]

Stihl :)

On Aug 21, 2013, at 21:04, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 What are you guys deploying lately in heavily wooded areas? We've used both 
 Cambium pmp320 Wimax and UBNT M900, with mixed results on both. We just put 
 up a 130ft tower in a heavily wooded river valley area, leaning towards the 
 UBNT solution but hate putting money into something I'm not really satisfied 
 with. 
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Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol

[Mike Lyon]

What don't you like about them? Im going to have to purchase a couple myself 
soon...

-Mike

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On Aug 12, 2013, at 19:56, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:

 I need to find something different than the Comscope (andrew) 3ft valueline 
 dishes I have I'm not a fan of them
 
 Thanks
 
 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

[Mike Lyon]

RF arnor has them for 75 dollars:

http://www.rfarmor.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=48

-mike

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On Jul 30, 2013, at 18:12, Dave Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote:

 I used a 5 gallon bucket, a bag of quikcrete, and a pipe for a NS5 a few 
 years ago on a flat roof.
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Joey Craig
 Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:04 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single 
 Nanostation + 5ft mast
 
 We use wood pallets with cement blocks when needed. Wood pallets are free for 
 the asking most of the time from area businesses.
 
 On Jul 30, 2013 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman haw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am going 
 to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally across a 
 highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a non-penetrating roof 
 mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is on the roof of both gas 
 stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount an antenna to. All of my 
 Google searches come up with much larger non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or 
 wider, which are designed for much larger and taller masts. Also very 
 pricey, $150 or more each.
 
 Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of 
 metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe a 
 single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed. 
 Won't ever need to go higher.
 
 Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Josh
 
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Re: [WISPA] Voltage regulator

[Mike Lyon]

Tycon Power makes them. Sub $100 too.

-Mike

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On Jul 15, 2013, at 15:27, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:

  I need a means to regulate the voltage coming out of the Solar Controller
 I need a constant 24 volts for Tranzeo and Ubiquiti radios. I now have
between 25 and 29 volts.
Any suggestions?
NGL
  flag.gif If you can read this Thank A Teacher.
And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti M5 Powerbridge

[Mike Lyon]

I like them when i can't use Rocket Dishes...

-Mike

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On Jul 11, 2013, at 19:05, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 Anyone have any good or bad things to say about these?  I am getting
 roped into a couple of links and looking for feedback before I marry
 them to myself.

 Tnx

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Re: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

[Mike Lyon]

You have to peer with them at 10g, right? Or do they have other options?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:09, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 We are peering with them on the Telx TIE in Atlanta.
 (We are not only using this connection for our own network peering, but also 
 have a few other ISP, which are interconnected, utilizing this peering 
 connection... some in Atlanta, other in Miami)

 :)


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 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:34:25 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Netflix Open Connect Platform

 Anyone been able to connect up with Netflix on this new platform?

 -mike

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[WISPA] 5.8 Ghz links and high tension inter-state powet lines...

[Mike Lyon]

Howdy!

Has anyone ever installed wireless equipment close to high-tension
power lines? Like inter-state HV transmission lines?

If so, what do i need to be aware of? Would they interfere with the
radios at all? If say a 40ft towet was installed within 200 ft of an
80ft power line tower,  would there be any issues? Any chance of the
tower coupling with HV lines?

Thoughts on the matter?

-mike

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Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Ghz links and high tension inter-state powet lines...

[Mike Lyon]

Whats the min distance you would advise from the power tower?

-mike

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On May 25, 2013, at 22:10, lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

Go for it.  You should be fine.  There will be no power issues as the 200
feet greatly exceeds the allowable distances for fixed appurtences.

RF wise you should also have no issue.  We have many links passing through
lines with no issue.

-B-


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From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
Date: 05/26/2013 12:59 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] 5.8 Ghz links and high tension inter-state powet lines...


Howdy!

Has anyone ever installed wireless equipment close to high-tension
power lines? Like inter-state HV transmission lines?

If so, what do i need to be aware of? Would they interfere with the
radios at all? If say a 40ft towet was installed within 200 ft of an
80ft power line tower,  would there be any issues? Any chance of the
tower coupling with HV lines?

Thoughts on the matter?

-mike

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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have a contact at crown castle?

[Mike Lyon]

Had the same problem with Capital Tower Group out here in California:

http://www.capitaltowergroup.com/

They never responded to my inquiry for 3 weeks until I contacted the owner
of the property directly who then reached out to their contact at CTG. No
apology no nothin'.

Needless to say, didn't sign with them.

-Mike



On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

 George Njezic is my contact.  george.nje...@crowncastle.com

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Scott Carullo
 *Sent:* Monday, May 20, 2013 4:23 PM
 *To:* wireless@wispa.org

 *Subject:* [WISPA] Anyone have a contact at crown castle?

 ** **

 I've been trying to lease space on 2-3 new towers for two weeks now and
 have not received a returned phone call or email.  Not getting warm and
 fuzzies with them

 ** **

 Anyone have someone who works there that wants my money?  Thanks

 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
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[WISPA] Any one use the Ligo PTP Unity yet?

[Mike Lyon]

Thinking about using one of their 5 gig models. Anyone ever use them
before? How do they compare to the UBNT Rocket M5s?

Thanks,
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[WISPA] ATC app fees?

[Mike Lyon]

Anyone happen to know what ATC or CC charges for their application process?

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [WISPA] ATC app fees?

[Mike Lyon]

Open as in, free?

Thanks!
Mike

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On Mar 26, 2013, at 17:02, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

ATC is open with their WISP program.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 26, 2013 7:56 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone happen to know what ATC or CC charges for their application process?

 Thanks,
 Mike

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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Complete list of WISP used billing products

[Mike Lyon]

Quickbooks Online.

-Mike


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Joel White jo...@nexgenaccess.com wrote:
 We use powernoc. Sure wish we could up the license. Lesson learned
 powercode, I mean NOC.

 Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

 Andrea,



 Send me a contact and I’d be glad to.



 Where there is a Wisp, there is a way!



 Respectfully,



 Rick Harnish

 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 cell

 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

 Skype: rick.harnish.

 rharn...@wispa.org

 adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)









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 Behalf Of Andrea Robel
 Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 5:41 PM
 To: memb...@wispa.org
 Cc: WISPA General List; a...@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Complete list of WISP used billing
 products



 We use Subscriber Technologies.  They are looking into becoming a member.
 Rick may want to follow up on this.

 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 I'm looking to put a complete list together.  Does anyone have any
 additional ideas?

 Powercode

 Platypus

 Billmax

 Wispmon

 BOSS (beta? released?)

 Azotel

 Freeside

 VISP

 Rodopi



 Josh Luthman
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 Direct: 937-552-2343
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[WISPA] DMCA infringent notices...

[Mike Lyon]

Got my first DMCA infringement notice today (yay! Not...)

Curious to hear what other action WISPs have taken with their
customers when these notices come down. Do you simply pass the notice
to the customer and have them correspond with the accuser or does the
WISP act as an intermediary between rhe accuser and the WISP customer?

Thanks in advance!

-mike

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[WISPA] Fwd: OT: Hurricane retweet-2-smtp.

[Mike Lyon]

In case anyone can help.

-mike

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Begin forwarded message:

*From:* jamie rishaw j...@arpa.com
*Date:* November 10, 2012, 21:11:41 PST
*To:* NANOG list na...@nanog.org
*Subject:* *OT: Hurricane retweet-2-smtp.*

Here would be a prime guess.. obviously anyone that can help, karma=good..

-jamie

///

from @virtadpt --

Need sources for Proxim point-to-point microwave hardware. Needed for

uplink from mesh to global Net. PLS RT #sandy #nyc  #projectbyzantium
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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal

[Mike Lyon]

Did WISPA score a deal with them or something?

-mike

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On Nov 8, 2012, at 17:36, Joe Miller joemiller...@cableone.net wrote:

I called them last week…. Still waiting on a call back from them…L





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*On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
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*To:* a...@afmug.com
*Cc:* WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal



I have my name in.  Waiting on info from my rep.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 8, 2012 8:27 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

Anyone has the details on this?



Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

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