Re: [WISPA] Anyone doing IPTV?
I have been loking at it also. I found this http://www.sysmaster.com/products/iptv_switch.php Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] anybody using the new CPE? (new toy from mikrotik)
There is a problem with the 200Mbit real throughput speed. The ethernet is One 10/100 Ethernet port. Details at http://routerboard.com/index.php?showProduct=108 Thoughts Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast
I dont do a site survey, I just look at Google maps to see how the land lies and if it looks ok go and do a test if ok do install. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast
Try here http://www.telescoping-pole.com/ Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Copper GigE Distance
changing ACK settimgs on either end might work/ Richard On 1 November 2010 19:44, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: You could push more, but not much bandwidth. We have cat-5 and cat-6 runs going 400+ feet up a tower linked at 100meg. You won’t be able to get a 1000M connection out of it though. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support -- *From: *Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Mon, 1 Nov 2010 15:32:22 -0400 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Copper GigE Distance No, the timing window won't let it. - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 12:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Copper GigE Distance I know copper GigE states a 100m(350') distance limit but is there much elbow room in there? With shielded Cat-6 could I get 425' stable? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB
turn auto neg off. It causes me many problems. richard On 25 October 2010 22:49, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Lots of possibilities First, you need to find a method of testing other than public web test sites like speedtest.net and speakeasy.net. You will not be able to narrow it down conclusively, without having control of variables on both sides of a test path. Second, we found www.visualware.com (myspeed.visualware.com) to be a helpful site to gather more data, to identify link problems. Their IT staff was able to provide us custom reports on various links stats taht were not normal for a link. (such as grapghs of pause and loss and retransmits and such). Third, Make sure Flow Control is set correctly on ALL ETHERNET SWITCH devices inline. Switch to PC is supposed to be FC ON, and Switch to Switch or Radio to Switch FC is supposed to be OFF. Sometimes this can be set wrong on the upstream providers switch also. If set wrong, not uncommon to get 50% degregation of speed or more. Fourth, Make Sure Duplex is set correctly. MANY CISCO routers do NOT auto detect correctly with other Switches. OFTEN we recommend hard setting 100mb FDX (auto neg off) on both the Cisco and the device coonnected to the Cisco. If this is set wrong, expect to get atleast 50% degregation of speed, and likely worse speed in one direction. Fifth, REMEMBER TCP AUTOMATICALLY slows itself down, if it false detects congestion, pause, or packet loss. REMEMBER the forumla for window size times latency that equal max transfer rate possible. That means... a 100mb link with 5ms accross town might do 95mbps, but 100mb link across USA at 70ms might do 5-10mbps. When running TCP at standard Ethernet 1500 byte packets, you will be harmed by ETHERNET distance (latency) TCP slow down. Also, Window size issupposed to auto adjust with Windows in most cases, but it always doesn't. So when runing a test, its important to recogbnize whether the correct window size gets adjusted during the test. (Inold dats 64kb window was the largest, but now PCs can multiple that by another number, so window size can be much higher. 64kb x X=widnows size. I can remember the max but its in the 700kb range I think. Anyway two things come out of that... A) USe a low latency path for your test, to test your circuit, otehrwise you are testing the Internet transit path. B) Use a UDP testing tool, to verify whether the capacity is truly there or not, so TCP slowdown (nagel augorythm?) is bypassed. IF UDP can do full capacity, then you know its not a capacity issue, but instead of link quality issue. C) USe a TCP multiple PArallel stream tests. For example, if you get qty 10 of 10mbps streams it means you have 100mbps of cpaacity, even if teh top speed you can achieve individually is 10mbps. Again, if the combined speed of multiple tests is a greater value than the speed of a single stream test, again, you likely have a link quality issue. Sixth, IPERF JPERF is your friend. It will help you get the data that you need. Its supports TCP/UDP/PARALLEL streams/MULTIPLE WINDOW SIZE. Try and talk your upstream into deploying a Iperf Server. Many carruiers are starting to standardize on it, for testing ONNet Ethernet circuits. Seventh- Do NOT trust Mikrotik routing to be able to deliver full 100mbps speeds. Dependong on your routing configuration, you can get huge limits. In some cases we've seen the Mikrotik result in speeds as low as 10-15mbps max transfer when on a 100mbps link, but then a change in routing config allowed us to get almost 80mbps. Eighth- Dont tryust your laptops to test full speed just because it has a Gigbit port. Laptop chipsets can cause delays. Sometimes its a good idea to test a secnd laptop to see if you get the same results. When its a problem it usually has something to do with NIC buffers and such, where it may be effected only in one direction. For example, not enough receive or transmit buffers. Or poor NIC drivers unable to do DMA transfers and stuff like that. NINETH, AFter you test yout test tools then you can test your links. Remember... PAcket loss and delay is accumlative over the whole path. And in aggregate it may have a worse result. For example, Lets say we have two Links A and B. If link A has packetloss of 1% and linkB has packetloss of 1%, in combination togeather, the loss might not be 2%. It might be much worse like 5% in combination. The same thing applies to speed. If link A tests 50mbps, and linkB tests 50mbps, does NOT MEAN that a PATH COMPRISING Link A and B in combination will yield 50mbps. The reason is that the loss can be accumulative accross the agregated path, and exceed some threshold, that tells TCP's nagel algorythm to slow down. The TCP automatic congestion control and slow down will be the primary cause of link slow down. Remember TCP was designed to think that packet loss and delay is
Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
Si On 8 October 2010 22:34, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: ¿Hablas español? Gregorio On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Hey .. Hey... Hey Just because we are in South Florida, it doesn't mean that we don't follow OSHA Standard or Safety Codes. And Jack, please don't drag illegal Bangladeshi, Indians or Pakistani's into this You should know better... Bangladeshi's, Pakistani's, and Indians are normally, Gas Station Owners, Taxi Cab Drivers, or Computer Techs, (the legal ones are Doctors.. and Engineers :)). For tough jobs invlolving manual labor we have ... Cubans, Ecuadorians, Chilean, Colombians, Haitians and some Mexicans..(Remember, English is our Second Language after Spanish ...) :) (Toung Cheek humor from a South Floridian, naturalized Pakistani Mechanical Enginner !) On a serious note, our sincere thoughts and prayers with the ones who are hurt and their families, in this accident. Accidents don't have prejudice nor do they discriminate Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/8/2010 3:34 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Yikes... what spooky, scary stuff. Next, is someone going to tell me that these workers are undocumented illegals smuggled in from Bangaladesh and hired as independent contractors by the blasting/painting company??? On 10/8/2010 12:15 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: While surely different crews have different practices, I also worked on a big tank and those guys doing the welding/blasting/painting were crazy and were being paid jack sh*t. Nature of the industry methinks. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 2:06 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I know first hand that these crews who blast these towers are very unsafe. We had to erect a temporary tower while one of our water towers was being blasted and repainted. They had to rig a curtain on the outside, so they were welding some pig joints on the top of the bowl to attach some poles to that would eventually hold the curtain. While erecting our temp tower, I watched a guy hang on to one of the joints with one hand while leaning out of the side of the bowl and grab a 100 lb pole from a guy on the catwalk with the other hand and then try to hoist it into place...all with no safety harness or even so much as a rope tied to his belt. I thought for sure I was going to witness a death that day. Cameron On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: Fire Departments should have an Access Point and recording device on the rescue vehicle and a camera with audio with wireless on their rig so they can lower it down to the victims when they first get there to better size up the condition of the payment and have instant communication. No more (Hey are you OK down there?) Hell they could put telemetry on it too. Forbes On 10/8/2010 10:23 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: There real question is where is the safety equipment? fall arrest laynards etc. This is why we have all this equipment. If they fell and were clipped in, it just would have been more uncomfortable rather than potentially deadly. -Cameron On 10/8/2010 1:34 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote: My pelican clip froze and I had replaced my wd40 with a red bull, unfortunately it did not give me wings… ~V~ *From:* RickG [mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 12:22 PM *To:* li...@stlbroadband.com mailto:li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I've got both water tanks and communication towers. I'll take the water tanks hands down as long as they're in good shape. They're much easier to work on without hangin around :) On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:06 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com mailto:li...@stlbroadband.commailto:li...@stlbroadband.com mailto:li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80’ up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.com http://www.ShowMeBroadband.comhttp://www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com http://www.StLouisBroadband.comhttp://www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
I have the greatest admiration for those miners trapped underground they have a courage that most people do not have. I wish to see them rescued ASAP. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
ops replied to wrong message Richard On 8 October 2010 22:43, richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.com wrote: I have the greatest admiration for those miners trapped underground they have a courage that most people do not have. I wish to see them rescued ASAP. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] computer won't connect to radio
Is the network card set to auto neg? I have had issues with this. Set to a rate of 10 or 100 problem gone. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Strange problem
I have a AP in a bar for customer access. when Vista and windows 7 users try to use it they get strange IP addresses. The only way to use it is to put in a static address. This is the only box on my network that issues DHCP. Anyone any thoughts? Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Strange problem
IPv4 but will check. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Strange problem
They are not like any of my address ranges from what I remember is that they were 192.254.?.? each time. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Strange problem
Older versions of Windows work fine. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Strange problem
That could be it. I will load the service pack next time it happens Thanks Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Coronal Mass Ejection
I think they call it Brown out. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
Cornfield 3, Grain street, Rural USA comes to mind. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB411 problem
After a good nights sleep. Managed to upgrade box software. Now working fine Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RB411 problem
Hello All, I have just pulled a RB411 out of store. It is a new one. But when I try to connect to it with Winbox I get this message Could not get routeros.dll: no reply This is a new message to me. Can anyone help? Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
Would an attenuator do this. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Overage thresholds and penalties
One way of looking at overage is an extra source of revenue. So long as you are not lossing mony on it and the customer is aware of the monthly limits. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Station box
Hello All, Does anyone know the dimentions of Station box enclosure with 5 GH 12 dBi antenna. Thanks Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?
Would the local building inspectors hold records? Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet transmit errors
Check what the connect speed is set to. I had problems when the ethernet link speed was set to auto on a few boards the problem went when I manually set the speed. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] test
Paper marked You passed Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
You don’t say what the distance is, But if you have the height to clear the road you could use a steel cable to support a fibre? Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
Hi Marlon, Its a sad post you have made. Can you not get some high steel railings to go round the site with razor wire on the top? Remote video link and alarm would help. Good luck Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Stolen solar site
Hi Marlon, Its a sad post you have made. Can you not get some high steel railings to go round the site with razor wire on the top? Remote video link and alarm would help. Good luck Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Solar suggestion for ultra low use site?
I would go for a dual site wind and solar. It covers for long spell of cloud. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Santa is Backordered
Due to the ressesion he had to lay off some elves! Richard 2009/12/25 Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com: All I asked for Christmas was some Ubiquiti gear. I get a note in the stocking... Back Ordered Santa has supply issues too. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPTV -- Anyone doing it?
Did you get any pricing for the Amino STB's? I would like to know more about your setup. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ever more bandwidth hungry
Or more revenue Richard 2009/11/14 Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com: http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/09/11/13/2329235/Time-To-Ditch-Cable-For-Internet-TV -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPTV -- Anyone doing it?
This may help a few of you out http://www.scribd.com/doc/7656628/HOw-to-Set-Up-Your-Own-Home-IPTVVoD-System http://www.aminocom.com/index.asp?PageID=2145848499 Richard 2009/11/11 Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Do you mean I can't just point a web cam at my TV and have the customer call me when they want to change the channel??? I need to rethink this then. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Government Loans and/or Grants
I would enquire further that wont cost you anything. Richard 2009/11/8 RickG rgunder...@gmail.com OK, so one of my subscribers happens to be close to the Governor. He claims there is grant money (not loans) available to build out wireless in the 4 adjacent counties to ours. He also claims there are no strings attached. I've been against the Obama money on a number of different levels but the biggest reason are due to the strings. Does this grant sound to good to be true? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes
Where can I find out more about Hula server? Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Anyone using ANY gear between 3.675 and 3.700 GHz ?
Gino, Read Jacks question again. He is asking not wanting to use the frequency. Richard 2009/10/19 Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com: Afaik There's no FCC approved gear for that space Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Oct 19, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Guys, Is anybody using (or know about) ANY gear between 3.675 and 3.700 GHz? We're working on WISPA's Spectrum for Broadband filing and we need to know what is (or isn't) available. Thanks!! jack -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com Sent from my Pizzicato PluckString... ___ WISPA Membership Mailing List --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] new wi fi??? From BusinessWeek today
More noise problems. Richard 2009/10/15 Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Internet October 14, 2009, 12:01AM EST Wi-Fi Is About to Get a Whole Lot Easier A consortium that includes Intel, Cisco, and Apple is set to release new technology called Wi-Fi Direct that will turn a slew of gadgets into hotspots By Olga Kharif Going Wi-Fi is about to get a lot easier. For many consumers, setting up an in-home Wi-Fi connection point is something of a hassle. Before you can enjoy the convenience of logging onto the Web without cables and wires, you need to hook up some gear and create your own hotspot. But that's set to change come mid-2010, when a tech upgrade will make it easier for users of consumer electronics to exchange files between electronic gadgets. On Oct. 14, the Wi-Fi Alliance, a tech industry consortium, said its members will release technology that effectively turns gadgets into mini access points, able to create wireless connections with other Wi-Fi-enabled gadgets or broadband modems within a radius of about 300 feet. The alliance includes Intel (INTC), Cisco Systems (CSCO), Apple (AAPL), and more than 300 other makers of the equipment that runs Wi-Fi networks, often used to provide wireless Web connections in homes, cafés, hotels, and airports. Sales Erosion Possible The new technology, called Wi-Fi Direct, will be built directly into consumer electronics and automatically scan the vicinity for existing hotspots and the gamut of Wi-Fi equipped devices, including phones, computers, TVs, and gaming consoles. Owners of most existing Wi-Fi-enabled devices will be able to upgrade to Wi-Fi Direct with a simple software download. While the revamp may make life easier for consumers and business owners, it may erode sales of other Wi-Fi compatible equipment. For starters, Wi-Fi Direct may curb demand for routers and other products that make up the $1 billion annual market for Wi-Fi access points, now present in about 30% of U.S. homes. The IT department doesn't have to set up an access point, says Victoria Fodale, a senior analyst at In-Stat. Same thing in the home. You can do the same thing with less equipment. Cisco and Netgear (NTGR) are among the biggest sellers of Wi-Fi equipment. The feature also could disrupt usage of wireless Bluetooth technology that, for example, helps users of the Apple iPhone play games with each other outside a wireless network. In the future, some consumers may use Wi-Fi Direct instead. Though Wi-Fi connectivity tends to drain battery life faster than Bluetooth, it's also faster and allows for transfer of richer multimedia content like video. Marketing Blitz on the Way For Cisco, Wi-Fi Direct could make up for lost sales of Wi-Fi access points through other Wi-Fi-enabled equipment including camcorders. The company didn’t make a representative available for this story. Members of the Wi-Fi Alliance plan to promote their new technology with a major marketing blitz. Intel has already begun briefing retailers, who will promote the feature in their stores, says Gary Martz, senior product manager at Intel. The chipmaker will also heavily promote the capability in the first quarter of 2010 as it unveils its next-generation Wi-Fi chip package for computers. Chipmaker Marvell (MRVL), meantime, is planning to collaborate with its consumer-electronics partners to mark enabled devices with special stickers and to promote the capability through ads. We will make a big splash with Wi-Fi Direct, says Bart Giordano, product marketing manager at Marvell. A Boon for Smartphones Almost half of the 760 North American consumers surveyed in May by In-Stat said they use their Wi-Fi-enabled devices for more than connecting to the Internet. We feel that it opens up a whole new set of applications and use cases, Giordano says. Wi-Fi Direct will really drive the next generation of growth in [the use of Wi-Fi] consumer devices. The feature could boost usage of Wi-Fi capabilities in smartphones and television sets in particular. It makes adding Wi-Fi to devices that don't have Wi-Fi more compelling, says Kelly Davis-Felner, marketing director at Wi-Fi Alliance. Marvell is already talking to makers of TVs, few of whom offer Wi-Fi connectivity today but are now considering adding the capability to let users wirelessly transfer photos and video from their Wi-Fi-enabled cameras, camcorders, and netbooks directly onto TV screens. There's also growing interest from manufacturers of cheaper cell phones, Giordano says. Today, Wi-Fi can be found mostly on high-end smartphone models. The new use cases are really going to allow the technology to proliferate among devices it's not been considered for, Giordano says. We are expecting that this will drive a lot of growth for us. Worldwide, shipments of Wi-Fi-enabled cell phones should rise from 64.9 million units last year to 314 million units in 2013, according to
Re: [WISPA] OT: How to duplex CTV and DISH, same cable
You can get TV/sat splitters/combiners TV covers VHF and UHF bands the sat from 950 Mhz to 2150 Mhz. Richard 2009/9/28 Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com: Probably depends on the frequency of the Internet signal you're wanting to duplex onto it. Get the right duplexors, and you're fine. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com wrote: I have a customer with a house that has a central wiring closet. The cable coming in from all the rooms is currently used for DISH TV. They want to know if I can put their new cable Internet signal onto the same cable. (RF style, not Ethernet) This only takes a simple duplexer right? Any reason this is a problem? One of the installers told them they couldn't combine both signals on the same cable. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks. Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software
I use radio mobile it takes a bit of time to work out but it is good. Richard 2009/9/23 Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com: It takes 4hrs in the idle of the night with zero interruptions. Once you do that it will gel. Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications Sent Mobile (Probably one handed) From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:19 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software You know, I haven't a clue! It looks simple, heck yes! Everyone says it's easy but I'll be darned if I can't get anything out of it. Now you also have to understand, when I try to work with it I have 3 kids, a cat and the wife all wanting something. Time was not well spent when I've tried it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software Robert West wrote: What are you folks using to verify the viability of a link before you plan the build? I've tried using Radio Mobile but I'll be darned if I can't get that thing to work even with the step by step instructions. I've been finding myself just plotting elevations all the way along the link in Google Earth. Where are you getting hung up? Radio Mobile is probably the best free tool you're gonna get, and once set up, works pretty well. (The trickiest part probably is getting the terrain data you need, but you only have to do that once.) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] amplifiers
As we are on the subject of amplifiers. can anyone point me to somewhere that could provide me with an amplifier for 10.758Ghz. Thanks Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?
I agree with Tom. All in one place. Richard 2009/9/13 Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net: I also feel there is an administrative headache to managing access to to many lists, that eventually can translate to confusion and delays for prospective list members. I also think its a big pain to never know who is on a list. For example how many people you will reach or not reach if you post there.. I think some justification for a dedicated list are... 1) defining that it is a topic that a large amount of members do NOT want to hear about, but a topic that will generate a lot of messages for the few that do. 2) for a specialize short duration project, only pertaining to a few involved. 3) A topic outside the scope of what WISPA is about (wireless). 4) Control of moderation, rules and focused content. For example a manufacturer/vendor member's own list for their product. I think seperating wireless technology related sub-topics will delute the value of the primary list. And potentially unnecessarilly segregate membership. The other issue is that there are different ways to break things down, that can cause confusion of where to post. For example lets pretend we had 8 lists... 1) 3.65 list versus 5.8 list. 2) Wimax list vs Non-Wimax list 3) WiMax-e (mobile) list versus Wimax-d (fixed) list. 4) Spectrum licensing issues list vs technical issues list Which category/list would a 3.65 post best fit? Thus my reasoning for preferring all wireless stuff in one place. With that said, if some 3650 people still want their own focused list, that Jack has created for them, it should not be denied. But I think it should still be appropriate to post 3650 topics on the main list, for those that prefer that. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? Agreed. Too many lists devalues the content due to smaller pools of information (people) to pull from. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You? Too many lists just fragment the conversation. Many including myself just don't feel like joining a bunch of lists. Ultimately, if WISPA is trying to move the value of the lists to just members then they should just make the existing list, members only and be done with. -Matt On Sep 12, 2009, at 9:52 PM, Chuck Bartosch wrote: Ah. I never quite remember that: the WISP list is for WISPA members only, while the WISPA list is for any WISP. Definitely clever naming ;-). cough Still, I wish they'd change that since us not-so-clever people would expect the reverse! Anyway, I generally support moving some of this onto internal lists, but I don't think it makes a lot of sense to divide things up so finely that we have frequency-labelled lists. Chuck On Sep 12, 2009, at 9:15 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: A members-only list, so if people don't mind to keep it going on this list instead of the closed one... Rubens On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Heads up thread - Jack made a new list for 3.650 topics specifically. On 9/12/09, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: Tom, 802.16d implementations can and do support diversity antennas on the AUs. I don't know the definitive answer to the rest of the question. But I do know that: (1) Clients in 802.16e can and do support diversity (2) The clients are supposed to be interoperable (3) I know of no clients that support diversity in 802.16d So, speculatively, the point might that 802.16e clients support diversity and interoperate. You pick up at least a few db with client diversity antennas-though not nearly enough to make up for the lower power regime you have to operate in. Chuck On Sep 11, 2009, at 7:12 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Patrick, Always great to see your list posts filled with good info. Responses inline... The E standard does enable use of diversity, but it comes at a high cost and is of limited benefit for rural operators. The truth is that diversity is designed to increase link budgets to support self- install. Can you clarify? Are you saying D Spec does not support Diversity? Or that most D vendors focusing on price chose not to include implementation of it? Even most Wifi chipsets supports diversity. My understanding was D supported diversity, because the early Pre- Wimax Aperto supported all types of Diversity. Please clarify. I'd like to add... I'd like to see more FIXED products support Diversity at the AP. Trials have shown that Polarity diversity yielded much better
Re: [WISPA] Some great photos
I wonder WHY our US and British troops are there in a country that has never been conquered? What a waste of good lives. Richard 2009/9/6 Ron Harden rhar...@voxcorp.net http://cryptome.org/0001/af-fun-news-02.htm Contained in this list are the photo and the story from the photographer's perspective, that the AP was heavily criticized for publishing, of a wounded soldier in Afghanistan that dies a few hours later. I think it's worth sharing to reflect on the sacrifices made by our young men in harms way in their effort to provide a safe future for our families and our children. It also tells the story of their days and provides a stark contrast with our lives and problems that we deal with daily. If so inclined, a daily prayer is recommended for our troop's safety and success in their endeavors to make this a safer world. Thanks for sharing Blake...Ron -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [mailto:bbow...@mozarks.com] Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 2:34 AM To: tower-...@yahoogroups.com Cc: towerown...@yahoogroups.com; l...@yahoogroups.com; WISPA General List; towerwork...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WISPA] Some great photos check out http://cryptome.org/ Scroll down a bit on the page. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Some great photos
Sorry in a bar late at night letting off steam had a bad day. Did not mean to offend END of subject. Sorry Richard 2009/9/7 Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Well there's a good example of someone with a firm grasp on current events. Conquered?sigh I thought politics was off limits on a technical list? Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of richard sterne Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 6:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Some great photos I wonder WHY our US and British troops are there in a country that has never been conquered? What a waste of good lives. Richard 2009/9/6 Ron Harden rhar...@voxcorp.net http://cryptome.org/0001/af-fun-news-02.htm Contained in this list are the photo and the story from the photographer's perspective, that the AP was heavily criticized for publishing, of a wounded soldier in Afghanistan that dies a few hours later. I think it's worth sharing to reflect on the sacrifices made by our young men in harms way in their effort to provide a safe future for our families and our children. It also tells the story of their days and provides a stark contrast with our lives and problems that we deal with daily. If so inclined, a daily prayer is recommended for our troop's safety and success in their endeavors to make this a safer world. Thanks for sharing Blake...Ron -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [mailto:bbow...@mozarks.com] Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 2:34 AM To: tower-...@yahoogroups.com Cc: towerown...@yahoogroups.com; l...@yahoogroups.com; WISPA General List; towerwork...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WISPA] Some great photos check out http://cryptome.org/ Scroll down a bit on the page. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question
But does not practice make perfect Richard 2009/9/2 Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com It's not the size of the wave cycle, it's how you use it. Or something like that. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Rice Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question But look at all the experience you are gaining :) On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Why horizontal polarity? Cause I'm a total idiot when it comes to 900mhz and as my luck usually runs, if I go by the book nothing works until I do what I'm not supposed to do. But, also as my luck runs, the opposite of what I try first will work So it actually won't matter what I do including sitting the antennas 5 feet in front of each other, it will never work the first time out. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Edwards Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik in my experience. Why horizontal pol? Vertical cuts through the foliage much bettter, at least with the NorCal foliage we have here. tim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tim Edwards, Chief Engineer t...@telescience.net TeleScience Networks http://telescience.net 11101 Hiway 1, #102415-663-8891 Point Reyes Station, CA 94956-1375 =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Hogg wrote: I find that the Trango 900 can handle the noise and capacity much better than MikroTik/XR9. I have a few hundred on Trango and it works better imo than XR9's. Canopy's GPS synch is the only reason I would prefer their 900MHz option. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm actually about to test something similar in a few days. We have a 2.5 mile link to put in with half a mile of it through trees with .25 miles of that running right over a creek. Doing it on the cheap, or trying to. Have 2 Mikrotik 411 boards on both sides running a transparent bridge using XR9 cards attached to a pac wireless grid antenna setup with horizontal polarity. The antennas are up and the boxes are configured, just have to go out tonight or tomorrow and run power to them and try to see what kind of throughput we can get, if any. Haven't tried it before but we'll see. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 900Mhz question We've been using the Trango 900Mhz gear and are familiar with canopy and it's abilities. How does a Mikrotik with something like a XR9 compare in terms of penetration and throughput when paired with a Ubiquity CPE? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings
Could you not set the CPE to DHCP and the IP pool to allow only 1 IP address? Richard 2009/8/21 Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com Not seen a single solution that can do that. That is the functionality of NAT to hide what is behind it. I take advantage of it all the time when I'm staying in hotels. Use my own AP that allows my wifi enabled devices access and connect to the hotels system and I'm paying a single fee for the hotel that charges for internet. Only way to fight it in a MTU type environment or even with residential is educate the users and strike some fear into them that if they run open APs they could get in trouble if the others that piggy back on it does illegal things such as copyrighted filesharing, illegal p0rn or simply are virus infected and they this way risk getting infected and have their own computers compromised and become BOT slaves. Plus also let them know that they are paying for specific service speeds and if they let others use it a lot for free then themselves no longer have the speed for themselves and also possible point to the bit cap portion of the user agreement letting them know that their account could possibly be shut down prematurely because someone else is using up all their allow bit count. Some students will not care and there might be two apartment that even share the cost of the service and then you cannot do much about it besides maybe limit per connections etc to choke them out. What we do at one location (granted all pre-wired) is that the landlord is paying a small fee each month but then we provide free internet to the tenants just fast enough to work for a individual doing normal web browsing but then we also provide upgrade service on a for pay basis. The people that pay tend to be greedy and want it all to themselves ;) /Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:56 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings Mikrotik Hotspot does NOT have the capability of catching people behind NAT. Example: Joe buys a WRT54g. WRT54g bridges to the paid wireless network. Joe buys and account via laptop plugged into WRT54g. Joe plus in an AP behind the router and broadcasts ESSID Free Internet. People mooch. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote: Mikrotik Hotspot between them and the internet Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Joe Laura joela...@superior1.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:17 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings I had a nightmare trying to do apartment complexes. I thought I touched on a goldmine when all the signups started comming in. Then as tennants started firing up their own A/P's others would connect to them and cancel service. How are youll dealing with this? Joe Laura WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
How accurate it? My Garmin is quite a way off Richard 2009/8/20 e...@wisp-router.com Was going to say that I charged it almost a year ago and used it numerous times and it still comes on without complaining. So battery in it last a long time without re charging. They are. Not end user replaceable though. But for the price I paid if the battery stop taking a charge I will just replace it. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: e...@wisp-router.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:40 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Sams is selling a thing called Beacon GPS tracking unit. It has no maps on it and no big fancy screen to break. It got a rubber edge. It's design for vehicle track on tracking of your hiking trailing. You need to plug it in to a usb port to download the track data. But that is superficial and unnecessary. The unit have a simple green lcd on which you can display current coordinates and height compass directions and satellite reception. I did an initial charge on it almost a year ago and used it a few times. I think the unit ran me about 85. Was looking to use it as a vehicle tracker to see how our service Van was used but it was to cumbersome to use that way IMO and no external antenna ended up getting a different unit with external antenna and gsm system so I can see real time live on a web app interface where the van is and driving speeds and where it's been without accessing the device in the van. This first unit I today just use to get gps coordinates and high info so I don't have to use laptop or a fancy flashy gps unit that costs a lot. It's about the size of a thicker flip phone so can easily be stored in your pant or breast pocket. Ohh you charge by USB cable and I want to say it came with usb sync/charge cable and car cigarette lighter adapter if not the later you probably own a few already or you can pickup a cheap one at any place that sell cellphones, pda's, mp3 players and in truck stops or even in many gas stations if you would end up forgetting it or if you simply just to have such a adapter in each car you and the business uses. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:23:50 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings
Scan the building to see the noise then you can see if wireless is viable. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW.....
WISPs might seriously want to consider forming cooperatives in which a group of WISPs within a geographic region enter into a joint venture to expand overall capacity. Then that joint venture can apply for stimulus money. You could also save in upstream costs if you provided interconnects with your neighbors so local trafic goes between you not upstream via internet provider as more of you connect you should save more. A thought Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Field Day tower fatality
San news. Richard 2009/7/8 Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com On 7/8/2009 5:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Wow, it bent at the base?! My thoughts too. There had to be a cause; there's more to the story. But hamfests are usually run by guys that generally know what they're doing so that does lead one to ponder. Geez, and I climb some pretty old towers sometimes . . . It's the ones I refuse to climb that scare me. You know, the kind that you can easily put into motion by leaning on them? The ones that aren't even vertical anymore? LOL! I recently in fact noticed one of them folded over the guys house from a windy day. I would appear he didn't take my words of advice quite as urgently as I was trying to sound. Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] What frequencies not to use
Hello all, I am looking at shooting a 5.x Ghz link through a busy port. What frequencies should I avoid? Thanks Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use
The distance is 3.5 Km or 2.2 Miles Richard 2009/7/5 lakel...@gbcx.net If you can you should use the 5.4 band. Second option is 5.3 and then 5.8 GHz. You don't say the distance so its hard to say to use other options In urban areas we use large antennas and lower the power to narrow the beamwidth. In addition I would use horizontal as there are many consumer products on 5.8 that use vertical Good luck Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:59:02 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use Hello all, I am looking at shooting a 5.x Ghz link through a busy port. What frequencies should I avoid? Thanks Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Problem with an NS2 running the latest firmware
I agree with Josh if you are doing a site survey you will lose AP function. You are changing the state of the radio. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router
Static routing is unbelievably easy. Ive tried with no luck I stand with Marlon on this. Richard 2009/6/26 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Static routing is unbelievably easy. Dynamic can get confusing but just jump in and try it once, you'll get it. On 6/26/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: No idea. I have to get Butch to program them for me. Routing is one of those things that I've decided not to learn :-). It's not hard to hire someone to take care of that remotely. I've spent my time and energy on the things that aren't so easy to hire. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router So what level license will I need just to do routing? Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router I've been putting in the 9 port (yeah I know it's more than you want but that gives you more power and memory) MT units. They are AMAZING. So far. marlon - Original Message - From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:59 PM Subject: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can handle 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that, just need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are other options..Thanks for any help. http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net tel: mobile: http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3342759998E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998 http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=336092E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_joini nvite=1=en Always have my latest info http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig=en Want a signature like this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.92/2202 - Release Date: 06/25/09 17:58:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
Re: [WISPA] Broadband Mapping for NTIA Applications
I have just set upa new laptop and installed the new radio mobile its just for VHF/UHF anyone have a link to an older version that does 2.4 and 5.x Gig range? Thanks Richard 2009/6/22 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com We use Brian Webster. See the Google maps and Google Earth versions here: http://inxwireless.com/coverage Great for pre-qualifying, excellent sales tool Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Lol, where is that offlist button... :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:17 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Mapping for NTIA Applications Hi Jack. Right now either I am going to do it in RM or my vendor is going to do it for the cost of doing business. Thanks though :-) V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Mapping for NTIA Applications We do/provide very accurate coverage mapping using a proprietary blend of software. Hit me offlist for pricing. jack Lists wrote: From the early NTIA meetings, we can bet that the NTIA is going to have in their grant applications that we map our coverage area. Makes total sense that they pass these costs on to us for their purposes. I have been talking to Daniel from 3-db.net about this issue. I am not a *really* skilled person in Radio Mobile, I have problems laying in the antenna portion. Daniels' company has the EDX program. I have seen the results and it looks good. I am curious what everyone else is using and why? Thanks, Victoria Proffer CEO StLouisBroadband.com http://stlbroadband.com/ ShowMeBroadband.com http://missouriruralwireless.com/ 314.974.5600 SBA Certified WOSB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com Twitter - wireless_jack WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Broadband Mapping for NTIA Applications
Ooops my mistake. now has data in it. I went to network properties and systems and was greeted with select from VHF UHF with some data in it works ok. thanks Richard 2009/6/22 Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net I follow the RMD mail list. No indications there of a change. Should still work for 2.4 and 5.x. richard sterne wrote: I have just set upa new laptop and installed the new radio mobile its just for VHF/UHF anyone have a link to an older version that does 2.4 and 5.x Gig range? Thanks Richard 2009/6/22 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com We use Brian Webster. See the Google maps and Google Earth versions here: http://inxwireless.com/coverage Great for pre-qualifying, excellent sales tool Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Lol, where is that offlist button... :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:17 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Mapping for NTIA Applications Hi Jack. Right now either I am going to do it in RM or my vendor is going to do it for the cost of doing business. Thanks though :-) V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Mapping for NTIA Applications We do/provide very accurate coverage mapping using a proprietary blend of software. Hit me offlist for pricing. jack Lists wrote: From the early NTIA meetings, we can bet that the NTIA is going to have in their grant applications that we map our coverage area. Makes total sense that they pass these costs on to us for their purposes. I have been talking to Daniel from 3-db.net about this issue. I am not a *really* skilled person in Radio Mobile, I have problems laying in the antenna portion. Daniels' company has the EDX program. I have seen the results and it looks good. I am curious what everyone else is using and why? Thanks, Victoria Proffer CEO StLouisBroadband.com http://stlbroadband.com/ ShowMeBroadband.com http://missouriruralwireless.com/ 314.974.5600 SBA Certified WOSB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com Twitter - wireless_jack WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] Broadband Mapping for NTIA Applications
I use it mainly for link viability I have a lot of hills and mountains Richard 2009/6/22 Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Make sure you adjust the frequencies, transmitter power, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:13 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Mapping for NTIA Applications Ooops my mistake. now has data in it. I went to network properties and systems and was greeted with select from VHF UHF with some data in it works ok. thanks Richard 2009/6/22 Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net I follow the RMD mail list. No indications there of a change. Should still work for 2.4 and 5.x. richard sterne wrote: I have just set upa new laptop and installed the new radio mobile its just for VHF/UHF anyone have a link to an older version that does 2.4 and 5.x Gig range? Thanks Richard 2009/6/22 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com We use Brian Webster. See the Google maps and Google Earth versions here: http://inxwireless.com/coverage Great for pre-qualifying, excellent sales tool Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Lol, where is that offlist button... :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:17 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Mapping for NTIA Applications Hi Jack. Right now either I am going to do it in RM or my vendor is going to do it for the cost of doing business. Thanks though :-) V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Mapping for NTIA Applications We do/provide very accurate coverage mapping using a proprietary blend of software. Hit me offlist for pricing. jack Lists wrote: From the early NTIA meetings, we can bet that the NTIA is going to have in their grant applications that we map our coverage area. Makes total sense that they pass these costs on to us for their purposes. I have been talking to Daniel from 3-db.net about this issue. I am not a *really* skilled person in Radio Mobile, I have problems laying in the antenna portion. Daniels' company has the EDX program. I have seen the results and it looks good. I am curious what everyone else is using and why? Thanks, Victoria Proffer CEO StLouisBroadband.com http://stlbroadband.com/ ShowMeBroadband.com http://missouriruralwireless.com/ 314.974.5600 SBA Certified WOSB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com Twitter - wireless_jack WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
