Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
Anyone have the 30dB Dishes in stock? -Gary- - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge For this I would use two Rocket M5's with the 30dB Rocket dishes. Reason being is after the event is done, you will have a set of radios you can use in another part of the network for up to a 30 mile shot. Configure: One as AP WDS One as Station WDS. 10MHz channel Max Tx Rate Automatic AirMax Enabled No ACK mode for PTP enabled Watch it fly - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of KosiNet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:57 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Thanks, I'll look at that option. Problem is - The Link must be up and running by early next week. No time to experiment... -Gary- - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge 6.5 miles long shot... I would do with either a Rocket M5 + Rocket Dish or a PowerBridge M5 (available in us next week or so). The smaller shots you could use NanoBridges M5 or even the NanoStation M5 or even the NanoStationLoco M... Ligowave units appear to be very nice, but hard to tell if the cost difference between Rocket M5 + Dish vs them is justifiable. If you did not want to purchase a whole variety of stuff , you could easily do this via a bunch of Bullet M5's with 22db Panels as well. Overall Bullets will have less thruput but still will get you your 20meg + easily. BTW, on the UBNT.COM now has a calculator / estimator... you can determine what models will work well for you. http://ubnt.com/linkcalculator/ Lots of good choices, the gear works well, takes a little playing with and getting used to.. but then again what doesn't Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/28/2010 7:46 PM, KosiNet Wireless wrote: Sorry for not giving all the details. The long shot is about 6.5 miles - Good LOS - We'll also be doing two (less than) 1 miles shots to get it there - All good LOS. Probably going to end up using 6 Radios to get the job done. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge What kind of distance? I assume you have LOS? I would go with Ubiquity probably. 150 megs aggregate for $200 is very convenient for building to building bridges. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wirelesswirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
Streakwave in Salt Lake - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Anyone have the 30dB Dishes in stock? -Gary- - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge For this I would use two Rocket M5's with the 30dB Rocket dishes. Reason being is after the event is done, you will have a set of radios you can use in another part of the network for up to a 30 mile shot. Configure: One as AP WDS One as Station WDS. 10MHz channel Max Tx Rate Automatic AirMax Enabled No ACK mode for PTP enabled Watch it fly - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of KosiNet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:57 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Thanks, I'll look at that option. Problem is - The Link must be up and running by early next week. No time to experiment... -Gary- - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge 6.5 miles long shot... I would do with either a Rocket M5 + Rocket Dish or a PowerBridge M5 (available in us next week or so). The smaller shots you could use NanoBridges M5 or even the NanoStation M5 or even the NanoStationLoco M... Ligowave units appear to be very nice, but hard to tell if the cost difference between Rocket M5 + Dish vs them is justifiable. If you did not want to purchase a whole variety of stuff , you could easily do this via a bunch of Bullet M5's with 22db Panels as well. Overall Bullets will have less thruput but still will get you your 20meg + easily. BTW, on the UBNT.COM now has a calculator / estimator... you can determine what models will work well for you. http://ubnt.com/linkcalculator/ Lots of good choices, the gear works well, takes a little playing with and getting used to.. but then again what doesn't Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/28/2010 7:46 PM, KosiNet Wireless wrote: Sorry for not giving all the details. The long shot is about 6.5 miles - Good LOS - We'll also be doing two (less than) 1 miles shots to get it there - All good LOS. Probably going to end up using 6 Radios to get the job done. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge What kind of distance? I assume you have LOS? I would go with Ubiquity probably. 150 megs aggregate for $200 is very convenient for building to building bridges. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wirelesswirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
[WISPA] High Speed Bridge
Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
distance? On Jul 28, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wireless wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
What kind of distance? I assume you have LOS? I would go with Ubiquity probably. 150 megs aggregate for $200 is very convenient for building to building bridges. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
Except for one bad one, the nanobridge works very well. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: distance? On Jul 28, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wireless wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ *Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com * Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
Sorry for not giving all the details. The long shot is about 6.5 miles - Good LOS - We'll also be doing two (less than) 1 miles shots to get it there - All good LOS. Probably going to end up using 6 Radios to get the job done. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge What kind of distance? I assume you have LOS? I would go with Ubiquity probably. 150 megs aggregate for $200 is very convenient for building to building bridges. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
And the bad thing would be. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Jeremie Chism To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Except for one bad one, the nanobridge works very well. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: distance? On Jul 28, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wireless wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
6.5 miles long shot... I would do with either a Rocket M5 + Rocket Dish or a PowerBridge M5 (available in us next week or so). The smaller shots you could use NanoBridges M5 or even the NanoStation M5 or even the NanoStationLoco M... Ligowave units appear to be very nice, but hard to tell if the cost difference between Rocket M5 + Dish vs them is justifiable. If you did not want to purchase a whole variety of stuff , you could easily do this via a bunch of Bullet M5's with 22db Panels as well. Overall Bullets will have less thruput but still will get you your 20meg + easily. BTW, on the UBNT.COM now has a calculator / estimator... you can determine what models will work well for you. http://ubnt.com/linkcalculator/ Lots of good choices, the gear works well, takes a little playing with and getting used to.. but then again what doesn't Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/28/2010 7:46 PM, KosiNet Wireless wrote: Sorry for not giving all the details. The long shot is about 6.5 miles - Good LOS - We'll also be doing two (less than) 1 miles shots to get it there - All good LOS. Probably going to end up using 6 Radios to get the job done. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge What kind of distance? I assume you have LOS? I would go with Ubiquity probably. 150 megs aggregate for $200 is very convenient for building to building bridges. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wirelesswirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
I had one end go bad. Replaced it and no problems. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2010, at 6:46 PM, KosiNet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: And the bad thing would be. -Gary- - Original Message - *From:* Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:32 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Except for one bad one, the nanobridge works very well. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: distance? On Jul 28, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wireless wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ *Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com * Email: gl...@hostmedic.comgl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
Thanks, I'll look at that option. Problem is - The Link must be up and running by early next week. No time to experiment... -Gary- - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge 6.5 miles long shot... I would do with either a Rocket M5 + Rocket Dish or a PowerBridge M5 (available in us next week or so). The smaller shots you could use NanoBridges M5 or even the NanoStation M5 or even the NanoStationLoco M... Ligowave units appear to be very nice, but hard to tell if the cost difference between Rocket M5 + Dish vs them is justifiable. If you did not want to purchase a whole variety of stuff , you could easily do this via a bunch of Bullet M5's with 22db Panels as well. Overall Bullets will have less thruput but still will get you your 20meg + easily. BTW, on the UBNT.COM now has a calculator / estimator... you can determine what models will work well for you. http://ubnt.com/linkcalculator/ Lots of good choices, the gear works well, takes a little playing with and getting used to.. but then again what doesn't Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/28/2010 7:46 PM, KosiNet Wireless wrote: Sorry for not giving all the details. The long shot is about 6.5 miles - Good LOS - We'll also be doing two (less than) 1 miles shots to get it there - All good LOS. Probably going to end up using 6 Radios to get the job done. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge What kind of distance? I assume you have LOS? I would go with Ubiquity probably. 150 megs aggregate for $200 is very convenient for building to building bridges. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wirelesswirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
Redline an80 On Jul 28, 2010, at 9:57 PM, KosiNet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Thanks, I'll look at that option. Problem is - The Link must be up and running by early next week. No time to experiment... -Gary- - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge 6.5 miles long shot... I would do with either a Rocket M5 + Rocket Dish or a PowerBridge M5 (available in us next week or so). The smaller shots you could use NanoBridges M5 or even the NanoStation M5 or even the NanoStationLoco M... Ligowave units appear to be very nice, but hard to tell if the cost difference between Rocket M5 + Dish vs them is justifiable. If you did not want to purchase a whole variety of stuff , you could easily do this via a bunch of Bullet M5's with 22db Panels as well. Overall Bullets will have less thruput but still will get you your 20meg + easily. BTW, on the UBNT.COM now has a calculator / estimator... you can determine what models will work well for you. http://ubnt.com/linkcalculator/ Lots of good choices, the gear works well, takes a little playing with and getting used to.. but then again what doesn't Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/28/2010 7:46 PM, KosiNet Wireless wrote: Sorry for not giving all the details. The long shot is about 6.5 miles - Good LOS - We'll also be doing two (less than) 1 miles shots to get it there - All good LOS. Probably going to end up using 6 Radios to get the job done. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge What kind of distance? I assume you have LOS? I would go with Ubiquity probably. 150 megs aggregate for $200 is very convenient for building to building bridges. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wirelesswirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
Especially if you are working with them for the first time a couple of hours in the office will save you a lot of time and grief in the field... (at least that is what we have seen in general ... crossing the t's and doting the i's with the radio in the office can take a few min, doing that in the field a lot longer...) :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/28/2010 10:56 PM, KosiNet Wireless wrote: Thanks, I'll look at that option. Problem is - The Link must be up and running by early next week. No time to experiment... -Gary- - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiazfai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge 6.5 miles long shot... I would do with either a Rocket M5 + Rocket Dish or a PowerBridge M5 (available in us next week or so). The smaller shots you could use NanoBridges M5 or even the NanoStation M5 or even the NanoStationLoco M... Ligowave units appear to be very nice, but hard to tell if the cost difference between Rocket M5 + Dish vs them is justifiable. If you did not want to purchase a whole variety of stuff , you could easily do this via a bunch of Bullet M5's with 22db Panels as well. Overall Bullets will have less thruput but still will get you your 20meg + easily. BTW, on the UBNT.COM now has a calculator / estimator... you can determine what models will work well for you. http://ubnt.com/linkcalculator/ Lots of good choices, the gear works well, takes a little playing with and getting used to.. but then again what doesn't Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/28/2010 7:46 PM, KosiNet Wireless wrote: Sorry for not giving all the details. The long shot is about 6.5 miles - Good LOS - We'll also be doing two (less than) 1 miles shots to get it there - All good LOS. Probably going to end up using 6 Radios to get the job done. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge What kind of distance? I assume you have LOS? I would go with Ubiquity probably. 150 megs aggregate for $200 is very convenient for building to building bridges. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wirelesswirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
Those look good, but outside of the budget for this deal.. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Redline an80 On Jul 28, 2010, at 9:57 PM, KosiNet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Thanks, I'll look at that option. Problem is - The Link must be up and running by early next week. No time to experiment... -Gary- - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge 6.5 miles long shot... I would do with either a Rocket M5 + Rocket Dish or a PowerBridge M5 (available in us next week or so). The smaller shots you could use NanoBridges M5 or even the NanoStation M5 or even the NanoStationLoco M... Ligowave units appear to be very nice, but hard to tell if the cost difference between Rocket M5 + Dish vs them is justifiable. If you did not want to purchase a whole variety of stuff , you could easily do this via a bunch of Bullet M5's with 22db Panels as well. Overall Bullets will have less thruput but still will get you your 20meg + easily. BTW, on the UBNT.COM now has a calculator / estimator... you can determine what models will work well for you. http://ubnt.com/linkcalculator/ Lots of good choices, the gear works well, takes a little playing with and getting used to.. but then again what doesn't Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/28/2010 7:46 PM, KosiNet Wireless wrote: Sorry for not giving all the details. The long shot is about 6.5 miles - Good LOS - We'll also be doing two (less than) 1 miles shots to get it there - All good LOS. Probably going to end up using 6 Radios to get the job done. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge What kind of distance? I assume you have LOS? I would go with Ubiquity probably. 150 megs aggregate for $200 is very convenient for building to building bridges. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wirelesswirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
Yep, been there done that Is anyone stocking the Ubiquiti Power Bridge Units? The M5 looks good. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Especially if you are working with them for the first time a couple of hours in the office will save you a lot of time and grief in the field... (at least that is what we have seen in general ... crossing the t's and doting the i's with the radio in the office can take a few min, doing that in the field a lot longer...) :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/28/2010 10:56 PM, KosiNet Wireless wrote: Thanks, I'll look at that option. Problem is - The Link must be up and running by early next week. No time to experiment... -Gary- - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiazfai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge 6.5 miles long shot... I would do with either a Rocket M5 + Rocket Dish or a PowerBridge M5 (available in us next week or so). The smaller shots you could use NanoBridges M5 or even the NanoStation M5 or even the NanoStationLoco M... Ligowave units appear to be very nice, but hard to tell if the cost difference between Rocket M5 + Dish vs them is justifiable. If you did not want to purchase a whole variety of stuff , you could easily do this via a bunch of Bullet M5's with 22db Panels as well. Overall Bullets will have less thruput but still will get you your 20meg + easily. BTW, on the UBNT.COM now has a calculator / estimator... you can determine what models will work well for you. http://ubnt.com/linkcalculator/ Lots of good choices, the gear works well, takes a little playing with and getting used to.. but then again what doesn't Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/28/2010 7:46 PM, KosiNet Wireless wrote: Sorry for not giving all the details. The long shot is about 6.5 miles - Good LOS - We'll also be doing two (less than) 1 miles shots to get it there - All good LOS. Probably going to end up using 6 Radios to get the job done. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge What kind of distance? I assume you have LOS? I would go with Ubiquity probably. 150 megs aggregate for $200 is very convenient for building to building bridges. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wirelesswirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
I hear ya. Our unlicensed backhauls start as mikrotik, then move to redline, then to moto, based on revenue they support. Not much of a performance boost moving to the redlines, but they quite simply Work. On Jul 28, 2010, at 10:17 PM, KosiNet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Those look good, but outside of the budget for this deal.. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Redline an80 On Jul 28, 2010, at 9:57 PM, KosiNet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Thanks, I'll look at that option. Problem is - The Link must be up and running by early next week. No time to experiment... -Gary- - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge 6.5 miles long shot... I would do with either a Rocket M5 + Rocket Dish or a PowerBridge M5 (available in us next week or so). The smaller shots you could use NanoBridges M5 or even the NanoStation M5 or even the NanoStationLoco M... Ligowave units appear to be very nice, but hard to tell if the cost difference between Rocket M5 + Dish vs them is justifiable. If you did not want to purchase a whole variety of stuff , you could easily do this via a bunch of Bullet M5's with 22db Panels as well. Overall Bullets will have less thruput but still will get you your 20meg + easily. BTW, on the UBNT.COM now has a calculator / estimator... you can determine what models will work well for you. http://ubnt.com/linkcalculator/ Lots of good choices, the gear works well, takes a little playing with and getting used to.. but then again what doesn't Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/28/2010 7:46 PM, KosiNet Wireless wrote: Sorry for not giving all the details. The long shot is about 6.5 miles - Good LOS - We'll also be doing two (less than) 1 miles shots to get it there - All good LOS. Probably going to end up using 6 Radios to get the job done. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge What kind of distance? I assume you have LOS? I would go with Ubiquity probably. 150 megs aggregate for $200 is very convenient for building to building bridges. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wirelesswirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
For this I would use two Rocket M5's with the 30dB Rocket dishes. Reason being is after the event is done, you will have a set of radios you can use in another part of the network for up to a 30 mile shot. Configure: One as AP WDS One as Station WDS. 10MHz channel Max Tx Rate Automatic AirMax Enabled No ACK mode for PTP enabled Watch it fly - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of KosiNet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:57 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Thanks, I'll look at that option. Problem is - The Link must be up and running by early next week. No time to experiment... -Gary- - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge 6.5 miles long shot... I would do with either a Rocket M5 + Rocket Dish or a PowerBridge M5 (available in us next week or so). The smaller shots you could use NanoBridges M5 or even the NanoStation M5 or even the NanoStationLoco M... Ligowave units appear to be very nice, but hard to tell if the cost difference between Rocket M5 + Dish vs them is justifiable. If you did not want to purchase a whole variety of stuff , you could easily do this via a bunch of Bullet M5's with 22db Panels as well. Overall Bullets will have less thruput but still will get you your 20meg + easily. BTW, on the UBNT.COM now has a calculator / estimator... you can determine what models will work well for you. http://ubnt.com/linkcalculator/ Lots of good choices, the gear works well, takes a little playing with and getting used to.. but then again what doesn't Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/28/2010 7:46 PM, KosiNet Wireless wrote: Sorry for not giving all the details. The long shot is about 6.5 miles - Good LOS - We'll also be doing two (less than) 1 miles shots to get it there - All good LOS. Probably going to end up using 6 Radios to get the job done. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge What kind of distance? I assume you have LOS? I would go with Ubiquity probably. 150 megs aggregate for $200 is very convenient for building to building bridges. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wirelesswirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
Oh, and adjust output power to provide -65dB at each end. - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge For this I would use two Rocket M5's with the 30dB Rocket dishes. Reason being is after the event is done, you will have a set of radios you can use in another part of the network for up to a 30 mile shot. Configure: One as AP WDS One as Station WDS. 10MHz channel Max Tx Rate Automatic AirMax Enabled No ACK mode for PTP enabled Watch it fly - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of KosiNet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:57 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Thanks, I'll look at that option. Problem is - The Link must be up and running by early next week. No time to experiment... -Gary- - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge 6.5 miles long shot... I would do with either a Rocket M5 + Rocket Dish or a PowerBridge M5 (available in us next week or so). The smaller shots you could use NanoBridges M5 or even the NanoStation M5 or even the NanoStationLoco M... Ligowave units appear to be very nice, but hard to tell if the cost difference between Rocket M5 + Dish vs them is justifiable. If you did not want to purchase a whole variety of stuff , you could easily do this via a bunch of Bullet M5's with 22db Panels as well. Overall Bullets will have less thruput but still will get you your 20meg + easily. BTW, on the UBNT.COM now has a calculator / estimator... you can determine what models will work well for you. http://ubnt.com/linkcalculator/ Lots of good choices, the gear works well, takes a little playing with and getting used to.. but then again what doesn't Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/28/2010 7:46 PM, KosiNet Wireless wrote: Sorry for not giving all the details. The long shot is about 6.5 miles - Good LOS - We'll also be doing two (less than) 1 miles shots to get it there - All good LOS. Probably going to end up using 6 Radios to get the job done. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge What kind of distance? I assume you have LOS? I would go with Ubiquity probably. 150 megs aggregate for $200 is very convenient for building to building bridges. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kosinet Wirelesswirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Gentlemen, I need opinions... We have an opportunity to provide a short term / high speed link for an event - They need 20 Meg Internet speed. We've got the bandwidth, and locations scoped out, just curious as to experirnce with radios. Currently looking at using the LigoPTP 5-23 units. Any experience? Good or bad? Also considering the new Ubiquity units as price is always a problem. Thanks in advance, -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
[WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link
I'm looking for ideas / recommendations. I've got a Client with 2 buildings about 600 feet apart. Currently using Cat5 locked at 10Mbps - It's been working ok, but we need more speed. Fiber is probably the best bang for the buck, but I was wondering if there was anything wireless out there that I could compete with? They got a price of $3k to pull Fiber between buildings. Anything new / revolutionary / cheap?? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link
Why not two 5Ghz radios? Ubnt or MT would be 500 and prove 20 megs I'd bet. More if you MIMO or use 40Mhz channels. On 3/17/10, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: I'm looking for ideas / recommendations. I've got a Client with 2 buildings about 600 feet apart. Currently using Cat5 locked at 10Mbps - It's been working ok, but we need more speed. Fiber is probably the best bang for the buck, but I was wondering if there was anything wireless out there that I could compete with? They got a price of $3k to pull Fiber between buildings. Anything new / revolutionary / cheap?? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link
Nano bridges, rockets. Why not fire up VDSL2+ modems back to back on the existing copper. about $500 and 100mbit. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: I'm looking for ideas / recommendations. I've got a Client with 2 buildings about 600 feet apart. Currently using Cat5 locked at 10Mbps - It's been working ok, but we need more speed. Fiber is probably the best bang for the buck, but I was wondering if there was anything wireless out there that I could compete with? They got a price of $3k to pull Fiber between buildings. Anything new / revolutionary / cheap?? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link
Wireless is nice but since there is already a Cat5 in place I would use a pair of Ethernet extenders. 396.00 for 100M FDX: http://netsys-direct.com/proddetail.php?prod=NV-600EKIT 600 feet is well within the range for full modulation. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link I'm looking for ideas / recommendations. I've got a Client with 2 buildings about 600 feet apart. Currently using Cat5 locked at 10Mbps - It's been working ok, but we need more speed. Fiber is probably the best bang for the buck, but I was wondering if there was anything wireless out there that I could compete with? They got a price of $3k to pull Fiber between buildings. Anything new / revolutionary / cheap?? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link
Jerry Richardson wrote: Wireless is nice but since there is already a Cat5 in place I would use a pair of Ethernet extenders. 396.00 for 100M FDX: http://netsys-direct.com/proddetail.php?prod=NV-600EKIT 600 feet is well within the range for full modulation. Jerry Liking that solution and it says POTs copper is good enough. Have to remember that next time we are doing internal wiring in large office building. Bret WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link
yep, or if there is a cat5, use it to pull your fiber! Media converters are CHEAP! 10/100s are under 70 bucks, and GigEs are under 200. NEver have an issue again. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link Jerry Richardson wrote: Wireless is nice but since there is already a Cat5 in place I would use a pair of Ethernet extenders. 396.00 for 100M FDX: http://netsys-direct.com/proddetail.php?prod=NV-600EKIT 600 feet is well within the range for full modulation. Jerry Liking that solution and it says POTs copper is good enough. Have to remember that next time we are doing internal wiring in large office building. Bret WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link
That might just do the job. I'll check i out. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link Wireless is nice but since there is already a Cat5 in place I would use a pair of Ethernet extenders. 396.00 for 100M FDX: http://netsys-direct.com/proddetail.php?prod=NV-600EKIT 600 feet is well within the range for full modulation. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link I'm looking for ideas / recommendations. I've got a Client with 2 buildings about 600 feet apart. Currently using Cat5 locked at 10Mbps - It's been working ok, but we need more speed. Fiber is probably the best bang for the buck, but I was wondering if there was anything wireless out there that I could compete with? They got a price of $3k to pull Fiber between buildings. Anything new / revolutionary / cheap?? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link
We use this all the time in MTU office buildings: http://netsys-direct.com/proddetail.php?prod=NVF-800S. Not one failure in 4 years. We use the 8 port version, but they also have a 24 port version. A fully loaded switch with modems is about 250/room installed (assuming you get the quantity discount). Motorola bought Tut and has a similar solution targeted for hospitality that has optional AP's in the modem. Very cool. Drop a dish on the roof, run to the telco room. Install the switch on the wall, cross connect to the customer's pair, drop a modem in their office and badda bing, badda boom, done. No new wires. Make sure you tag the wires at the punch blocks so Joe Telco doesn't pull your pairs. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link Jerry Richardson wrote: Wireless is nice but since there is already a Cat5 in place I would use a pair of Ethernet extenders. 396.00 for 100M FDX: http://netsys-direct.com/proddetail.php?prod=NV-600EKIT 600 feet is well within the range for full modulation. Jerry Liking that solution and it says POTs copper is good enough. Have to remember that next time we are doing internal wiring in large office building. Bret WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link
Another possible source for Ethernet Extenders http://www.ethernetextender.com/ethernet-extension-products/ethernet-extension-kits.php Regards Faisal. On 3/17/2010 11:51 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Wireless is nice but since there is already a Cat5 in place I would use a pair of Ethernet extenders. 396.00 for 100M FDX: http://netsys-direct.com/proddetail.php?prod=NV-600EKIT 600 feet is well within the range for full modulation. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link I'm looking for ideas / recommendations. I've got a Client with 2 buildings about 600 feet apart. Currently using Cat5 locked at 10Mbps - It's been working ok, but we need more speed. Fiber is probably the best bang for the buck, but I was wondering if there was anything wireless out there that I could compete with? They got a price of $3k to pull Fiber between buildings. Anything new / revolutionary / cheap?? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link
WOW! *Quad 10/100Mbps LAN ports on each end and engineered to handle extreme temperatures -49°F to 168°F (-45°to 76°C) Half expected to see dishwasher safe. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.netwrote: Another possible source for Ethernet Extenders http://www.ethernetextender.com/ethernet-extension-products/ethernet-extension-kits.php Regards Faisal. On 3/17/2010 11:51 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Wireless is nice but since there is already a Cat5 in place I would use a pair of Ethernet extenders. 396.00 for 100M FDX: http://netsys-direct.com/proddetail.php?prod=NV-600EKIT 600 feet is well within the range for full modulation. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link I'm looking for ideas / recommendations. I've got a Client with 2 buildings about 600 feet apart. Currently using Cat5 locked at 10Mbps - It's been working ok, but we need more speed. Fiber is probably the best bang for the buck, but I was wondering if there was anything wireless out there that I could compete with? They got a price of $3k to pull Fiber between buildings. Anything new / revolutionary / cheap?? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link
Bridgewave LTE at $7500 is a good bang for the buck to get acrross the street, and then some, as long as 100mbps is enough. But fiber is still cheaper. Terabeam will get you 1GB for under $10k, to get across the street, but it only supports fiber cabling to it. So you migh spend half the cost to run fiber between buildings, just terminating the Terabeam with fiber. 3-db just posted a great price on SafTechnica for 300mbps, but again, it will still be more expensive than the Fiber. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:26 AM Subject: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge Link I'm looking for ideas / recommendations. I've got a Client with 2 buildings about 600 feet apart. Currently using Cat5 locked at 10Mbps - It's been working ok, but we need more speed. Fiber is probably the best bang for the buck, but I was wondering if there was anything wireless out there that I could compete with? They got a price of $3k to pull Fiber between buildings. Anything new / revolutionary / cheap?? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
