Re: [WISPA] 60 miles (90 KM) P2MP with CPE on Vessels, possible?

2008-05-14 Thread Tom Sharples
Cool! Does that mean my Model 28 teletype has a future after all??

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2424647132102049544

Tom Sharples
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Re: [WISPA] 60 miles (90 KM) P2MP with CPE on Vessels, possible?

2008-05-13 Thread Gino Villarini
You need a ptmp 60 miles radius solution  and on a moving vessel to
boot?



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Subject: [WISPA] 60 miles (90 KM) P2MP with CPE on Vessels, possible?

Hi,

There has one inquiry for range of 60 miles, with CPEs on 15 vessels
which
are floating units. The base station can be fixed location offshore with
VSAT while offering 360 degree of broadcasting.  Network is planned to
carry
only data packets while accessing the internet.

Can above be done by using 802.11? Any other better solutions?  Though
3G/VSAT are possible with monthly payment.

Thanks,

Kevin Cheng
WiBorne, Inc.
www.wiborne.com






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[WISPA] 60 miles (90 KM) P2MP with CPE on Vessels, possible?

2008-05-13 Thread Kevin Cheng
Hi,

There has one inquiry for range of 60 miles, with CPEs on 15 vessels which
are floating units. The base station can be fixed location offshore with
VSAT while offering 360 degree of broadcasting.  Network is planned to carry
only data packets while accessing the internet.

Can above be done by using 802.11? Any other better solutions?  Though
3G/VSAT are possible with monthly payment.

Thanks,

Kevin Cheng
WiBorne, Inc.
www.wiborne.com





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Re: [WISPA] 60 miles (90 KM) P2MP with CPE on Vessels, possible?

2008-05-13 Thread Eric Rogers
I was told that about 40 miles is the limit for point to point shots for
those big microwave dishes even (without taking the curvature of the
earth into account).  Not saying it won't work farther, but if you have
a tower 300' tall, and a boat (vessel) that may be 10' - 40' tall; I
don't know if that will work because of the curvature of the earth?
With that, if you have a directional antenna on the boat, you will
constantly have to adjust the direction to the base station because of
waves and just orientation.  If you are talking about oil fields, that
is a different story because you can probably get something to work that
distance reliably.

My opinion, but I don't think it is feasible.

Thanks,

Eric


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Subject: [WISPA] 60 miles (90 KM) P2MP with CPE on Vessels, possible?

Hi,

There has one inquiry for range of 60 miles, with CPEs on 15 vessels
which
are floating units. The base station can be fixed location offshore with
VSAT while offering 360 degree of broadcasting.  Network is planned to
carry
only data packets while accessing the internet.

Can above be done by using 802.11? Any other better solutions?  Though
3G/VSAT are possible with monthly payment.

Thanks,

Kevin Cheng
WiBorne, Inc.
www.wiborne.com






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Re: [WISPA] 60 miles (90 KM) P2MP with CPE on Vessels, possible?

2008-05-13 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't think you're going to get 60 miles at any kind of respectable data
rate, and not with any normal WISP technology.  You'd be looking at a TALL
tower and something below 500 MHz.


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 Hi,

 There has one inquiry for range of 60 miles, with CPEs on 15 vessels which
 are floating units. The base station can be fixed location offshore with
 VSAT while offering 360 degree of broadcasting.  Network is planned to 
 carry
 only data packets while accessing the internet.

 Can above be done by using 802.11? Any other better solutions?  Though
 3G/VSAT are possible with monthly payment.

 Thanks,

 Kevin Cheng
 WiBorne, Inc.
 www.wiborne.com




 
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Re: [WISPA] 60 miles (90 KM) P2MP with CPE on Vessels, possible?

2008-05-13 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
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I was told that about 40 miles is the limit for point to point shots for
 those big microwave dishes even (without taking the curvature of the
 earth into account).  Not saying it won't work farther, but if you have
 a tower 300' tall, and a boat (vessel) that may be 10' - 40' tall; I
 don't know if that will work because of the curvature of the earth?
 With that, if you have a directional antenna on the boat, you will
 constantly have to adjust the direction to the base station because of
 waves and just orientation.  If you are talking about oil fields, that
 is a different story because you can probably get something to work that
 distance reliably.

 My opinion, but I don't think it is feasible.

 Thanks,

 Eric


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 Subject: [WISPA] 60 miles (90 KM) P2MP with CPE on Vessels, possible?

 Hi,

 There has one inquiry for range of 60 miles, with CPEs on 15 vessels
 which
 are floating units. The base station can be fixed location offshore with
 VSAT while offering 360 degree of broadcasting.  Network is planned to
 carry
 only data packets while accessing the internet.

 Can above be done by using 802.11? Any other better solutions?  Though
 3G/VSAT are possible with monthly payment.

 Thanks,

 Kevin Cheng
 WiBorne, Inc.
 www.wiborne.com




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] 60 miles (90 KM) P2MP with CPE on Vessels, possible?

2008-05-13 Thread Patrick Leary
We've done quite a bit of PMP from fixed offshore platforms to moving
vessels, but nothing at the ranges you are looking for. In this app,
VSAT was also the backhaul. I recall that the network was built for
ranges not exceeding about 10 km. For your application, you will likely
need VSAT on the vessels themselves.

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Subject: [WISPA] 60 miles (90 KM) P2MP with CPE on Vessels, possible?

Hi,

There has one inquiry for range of 60 miles, with CPEs on 15 vessels
which
are floating units. The base station can be fixed location offshore with
VSAT while offering 360 degree of broadcasting.  Network is planned to
carry
only data packets while accessing the internet.

Can above be done by using 802.11? Any other better solutions?  Though
3G/VSAT are possible with monthly payment.

Thanks,

Kevin Cheng
WiBorne, Inc.
www.wiborne.com






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