Re: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming...
Exactly why Public Safety and Municipalities don't need Fiber like speed broadband. The more capacity they have, the more creative they can get. Next thing you know, in real time, every time you pass a traffic light, they'll also be checking instant verification on Did you pay your taxes? Did you pass Emissions? Checking for SeatBelt? Were you using your Cell phone? (outlawed in DC, while in Car). Do you have unpaid tickets? and auto dispatch an officer to intercept you. Think about it What if they just decided to put an officer at the corner where the camera was And as the License plates were cross referenced against the global database, the officer was ready to go, to go get you. Why stop at $100 million in revenue? When multiples of that could be gained harrassing the many average American that might get behind on that beurocracy. :-( Mmmm, Starting to sound like travelling in East Berlin, before the wall came down. Actually... Here in Montgomery County, it was a bit different, than I represented. The MD State passed the initiative to put Camera's everywhere. The County Official Leaders were fighting hard to support it also. But then, at the County Meeting, an attendee came and read a page from a well known famous Sci Fi Book, (about Big Brother type stuff), consciences were challenged, and the majority then voted against allowing the camera expansion. However, then it went back to the State, and the State overturned the County's decissions, and made the Camera expansion mandatory anyway. If that is not proof on its own, that the larger Big Government had the power to take action with disregard for what the local government people wanted, one step closer to Big Brother :-(. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming... Contrib: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/03/traffic-cameras-billed-as-an swer-to-chicagos-budget-deficit.ars This time around, though, the company trumpeting the addition of these digital watchdogs isn't portraying them as useful tools for catching speeders simple yet complete answer that delivers totally accurate, instant insurance status verification. An additional unique advantage is that this system is also non-invasive, ensuring protection for every insurer and policyholder. The Chicago Sun-Times quotes InsureNet president Dr. Jonathan Miller on what the city might expect to earn with the system in 2009. Certainly, it will be well in excess of $100 million, Dr. Miller said. We think at least $200 million. And the upward projections are far higher. On 4/3/09 6:57 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Big Brother already started comming with those darn Traffic Cameras. I got 6 tickets (40mph in newly posted 25-30 mph zones) within 2 weeks. They plan to eventually have them at EVERY Intersection here. I'm suspecting more privacy will be lost as more networks become operated/controlled by governments. I'm hoping the Broadband Stimulus public safety goals means mobile broadband to officers on the street or inter-agency, and not more traffic control. PS. A little off topic to Cyber Security, but relevent to Big Brother :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming... http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Bill-Grants-President-Unprecedented-Cyber-S ecurity-Powers-504520/ Sometimes I wish people would REALLY pay attention. All this whining and moaning about how Bush violated our rights... Anyway... this is reason for concern for all of us. insert witty tagline here - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming...
On 4/6/2009 8:23 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: they'll also be checking instant verification on Did you pass Emissions? Out here in California, the state of the bazaar, it's already happened. Not everywhere, but like sobriety checks, at random places. They call it Smog Check II or something like that. I've driven through a couple of them. They put gas analyzers on tripods at the on-ramps to the freeways. As you drive through, it analyzes your emissions and shoots a pic of your license plate if you're out of spec. Swell. Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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In case you didn't read the first article... here's a bit... The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 introduced in the Senate would allow the president to shut down private Internet networks. The legislation also calls for the government to have the authority to demand security data from private networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule or policy restricting such access. The headlines were all about creating a national cyber-security czar reporting directly to the president, but the Cybersecurity Act of 2009 introduced April 1 in the U.S. Senate would also give the president unprecedented authority over private-sector Internet services, applications and software. According to the bill's language, the president would have broad authority to designate various private networks as a critical infrastructure system or network and, with no other review, may declare a cyber-security emergency and order the limitation or shutdown of Internet traffic to and from the designated the private-sector system or network. The 51-page bill does not define what private sector networks would be considered critical to the nation's security, but the Center for Democracy and Technology fears it could include communications networks in addition to the more traditional security concerns over the financial and transportation networks and the electrical grid. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming... On 4/6/2009 8:23 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: they'll also be checking instant verification on Did you pass Emissions? Out here in California, the state of the bazaar, it's already happened. Not everywhere, but like sobriety checks, at random places. They call it Smog Check II or something like that. I've driven through a couple of them. They put gas analyzers on tripods at the on-ramps to the freeways. As you drive through, it analyzes your emissions and shoots a pic of your license plate if you're out of spec. Swell. Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming...
This one's just as nuts... from e-week...: Proposed legislation would put authority over the security of government and private networks in the hands of officials reporting to the President. President Obama promised in his campaign to take cybersecurity seriously and he appears to be following up on that promise. Legislation just introduced in the Senate, written with White House input according to the Washington Post, would federalize the business of computer security. It would give White House officials the power to shut off private networks, decide what products could be used for security and set rules for who could practice computer security. The legislation is actually in two bills, S.773 and S.778. The titles of the bills are: S.773A bill to ensure the continued free flow of commerce within the United States and with its global trading partners through secure cyber communications, to provide for the continued development and exploitation of the Internet and intranet communications for such purposes, to provide for the development of a cadre of information technology specialists to improve and maintain effective cybersecurity defenses against disruption, and for other purposes. and S.778A bill to establish, within the Executive Office of the President, the Office of National Cybersecurity Advisor. I couldn't find the actual text of the legislation yet, but there is a short PDF describing it in press release language. Of course such documents are no substitute for examining the actual text. +++ Now, what exactly it means is unclear, but to federalize computer security is just one more means of demanding a backdoor into your network, computers, and systems by and to the feds. Clinton wanted it, and people got up in arms. This has gotten zero press. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Tom DeReggi wrote: Next thing you know, in real time, every time you pass a traffic light, they'll also be checking instant verification on or License Plate Scanners http://www.itemlive.com/articles/2009/02/09/news/news01.txt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming...
They have just equipped the street sweepers here in DC with a similar system to catch parking violators using automated tag reading. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com George Rogato wrote: Tom DeReggi wrote: Next thing you know, in real time, every time you pass a traffic light, they'll also be checking instant verification on or License Plate Scanners http://www.itemlive.com/articles/2009/02/09/news/news01.txt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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License Plate Scanners Geesh... Its already here! Thats scary. What ever happened to probable cause? Who is it going to be left up to to define suspicious? That is Harrassment ready to happen. I was all fine with the 1 unit per station to encourage use for a sole purpose, such as identifying cars, when it snowed. The scary part was the closing statement we want to verify the return on investment before buying more. Which infers measurment on city's financial gain, not public good. The truth is... A license plate scanner, is no different than what is done already manualy. If an officer notices something suspicious, they call it in, and wait for a response. The major difference is, the old way takes time and effort, and therefore the officer thinks twice before prematurely harassing a driver, and only calls it in, if there is a legitimate concern to call it in and verify the plate. The problem now is... its just to easy. It will likely encourage abuse. With that said, I'll close by saying I'd rather see Police Officier's with scanners, than Street light poles. Atleast then there is some human intervention and descretion, to justify a scan. And I'd like to think that we can trust our local Police Officer's to use them with good intent, to protect apposed to harrass. And that consumers will do their best to be lawful. I'm not sure what bothers me more... Invasion of privacy issues, or if I just don't like law inforcement automated by robots. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming... Tom DeReggi wrote: Next thing you know, in real time, every time you pass a traffic light, they'll also be checking instant verification on or License Plate Scanners http://www.itemlive.com/articles/2009/02/09/news/news01.txt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Contrib: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/03/traffic-cameras-billed-as-an swer-to-chicagos-budget-deficit.ars This time around, though, the company trumpeting the addition of these digital watchdogs isn't portraying them as useful tools for catching speedersinstead, camera provider InsureNet claims to have developed a simple yet complete answer that delivers totally accurate, instant insurance status verification. An additional unique advantage is that this system is also non-invasive, ensuring protection for every insurer and policyholder. The Chicago Sun-Times quotes InsureNet president Dr. Jonathan Miller on what the city might expect to earn with the system in 2009. Certainly, it will be well in excess of $100 million, Dr. Miller said. We think at least $200 million. And the upward projections are far higher. On 4/3/09 6:57 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Big Brother already started comming with those darn Traffic Cameras. I got 6 tickets (40mph in newly posted 25-30 mph zones) within 2 weeks. They plan to eventually have them at EVERY Intersection here. I'm suspecting more privacy will be lost as more networks become operated/controlled by governments. I'm hoping the Broadband Stimulus public safety goals means mobile broadband to officers on the street or inter-agency, and not more traffic control. PS. A little off topic to Cyber Security, but relevent to Big Brother :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming... http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Bill-Grants-President-Unprecedented-Cyber-S ecurity-Powers-504520/ Sometimes I wish people would REALLY pay attention. All this whining and moaning about how Bush violated our rights... Anyway... this is reason for concern for all of us. insert witty tagline here - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Big Brother's coming...
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Bill-Grants-President-Unprecedented-Cyber-Security-Powers-504520/ Sometimes I wish people would REALLY pay attention. All this whining and moaning about how Bush violated our rights... Anyway... this is reason for concern for all of us. insert witty tagline here WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming...
Another interesting article in the same theme... http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/The-Proposed-Federalization-of-the-Computer-Security-Field-297694/ SSDD... insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 4:17 PM Subject: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming... http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Bill-Grants-President-Unprecedented-Cyber-Security-Powers-504520/ Sometimes I wish people would REALLY pay attention. All this whining and moaning about how Bush violated our rights... Anyway... this is reason for concern for all of us. insert witty tagline here WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming...
Big Brother already started comming with those darn Traffic Cameras. I got 6 tickets (40mph in newly posted 25-30 mph zones) within 2 weeks. They plan to eventually have them at EVERY Intersection here. I'm suspecting more privacy will be lost as more networks become operated/controlled by governments. I'm hoping the Broadband Stimulus public safety goals means mobile broadband to officers on the street or inter-agency, and not more traffic control. PS. A little off topic to Cyber Security, but relevent to Big Brother :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: [WISPA] Big Brother's coming... http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Bill-Grants-President-Unprecedented-Cyber-Security-Powers-504520/ Sometimes I wish people would REALLY pay attention. All this whining and moaning about how Bush violated our rights... Anyway... this is reason for concern for all of us. insert witty tagline here WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
