Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-04 Thread David Hulsebus
Kurt, We bought a box of Belkin outdoor a few years back and it turned 
out to be indoor cable with a second jacket. We put a 150 foot run on a 
tower and crossed a flat roof and down a wall with another drop. Both 
started to loose the outer jacket within a couple of years, it just 
split apart and exposed the indoor cable to the elements. We've since 
replaced both runs. I don't have a part  number but wanted you to know  
our experience.

Dave Hulsebus

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
 I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was obviously
 made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a woods
 just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone know
 what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be great.

  

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com

  

  

  



 
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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-04 Thread Scott Carullo
There is outdoor cable with two jackets I saw some about a month ago and if 
I find the info I'll send it over.  I saved it because it looked 
interesting.  I have a piece of it somewhere too..  put it in a safe place 
can't find now lol

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102



From: David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:15 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

Kurt, We bought a box of Belkin outdoor a few years back and it turned 
out to be indoor cable with a second jacket. We put a 150 foot run on a 
tower and crossed a flat roof and down a wall with another drop. Both 
started to loose the outer jacket within a couple of years, it just 
split apart and exposed the indoor cable to the elements. We've since 
replaced both runs. I don't have a part  number but wanted you to know  
our experience.

Dave Hulsebus

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
 I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was 
obviously
 made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a 
woods
 just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone 
know
 what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be 
great.

  

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com

  

  

  



 


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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-04 Thread Jeff Ehman
Double jacket cable comes in both indoor and outdoor.  The difference between 
the two is the mixed into compound.  There are chemicals that make the PE UV 
rated.  They could both feel the exact same (durable and heavy) but one could 
be indoor and crumble in a couple years from sun and one could be outdoor and 
last for years.  You really have to find a reliable supplier that will provide 
information because many just think an aluminum foil shield makes it outdoor.  
THIS IS FAR FROM THE CASE.  

Just because it is heavy does not mean it will be good in the sun. 

-Jeff Ehman
General Manager
Phone: (312) 205-2509
There is a difference


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

There is outdoor cable with two jackets I saw some about a month ago and if 
I find the info I'll send it over.  I saved it because it looked 
interesting.  I have a piece of it somewhere too..  put it in a safe place 
can't find now lol

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102



From: David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:15 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

Kurt, We bought a box of Belkin outdoor a few years back and it turned 
out to be indoor cable with a second jacket. We put a 150 foot run on a 
tower and crossed a flat roof and down a wall with another drop. Both 
started to loose the outer jacket within a couple of years, it just 
split apart and exposed the indoor cable to the elements. We've since 
replaced both runs. I don't have a part  number but wanted you to know  
our experience.

Dave Hulsebus

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
 I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was 
obviously
 made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a 
woods
 just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone 
know
 what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be 
great.

  

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com

  

  

  



 


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[WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-03 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was obviously
made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a woods
just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone know
what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be great.

 

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com

 

 

 




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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I get mine from Shireen.

I've cc'd Nusrat on this for you.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
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Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:21 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e


I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was obviously
 made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a woods
 just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone know
 what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be 
 great.



 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com









 
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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-03 Thread lakeland
1351A is the heavy duty outdoor version we use. But that number is for CAT6 I 
believe
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:21:57 
To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was obviously
made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a woods
just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone know
what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be great.

 

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com

 

 

 




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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-03 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Was looking for something more like this
http://www.mohawk-cable.com/images/products/pdf/lantrak%20cat%205e%20sctp.pd
f


Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
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Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

1351A is the heavy duty outdoor version we use. But that number is for CAT6
I believe
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:21:57 
To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was obviously
made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a woods
just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone know
what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be great.

 

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com

 

 

 





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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Stupid breaks...


http://www.mohawk-cable.com/images/products/pdf/lantrak%20cat%205e%20sctp.pdf


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Direct: 937-552-2343
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that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill


On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:

 Was looking for something more like this

 http://www.mohawk-cable.com/images/products/pdf/lantrak%20cat%205e%20sctp.pd
 f


 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
 Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:32 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

 1351A is the heavy duty outdoor version we use. But that number is for CAT6
 I believe
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:21:57
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

 I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was obviously
 made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a woods
 just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone know
 what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be great.



 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com










 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-03 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Sorry hers fixed link

http://www.mohawk-cable.com/images/products/pdf/lantrak%20cat%205e%20sctp.pd
f



Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:56 PM
To: lakel...@gbcx.net; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

Was looking for something more like this
http://www.mohawk-cable.com/images/products/pdf/lantrak%20cat%205e%20sctp.pd
f


Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

1351A is the heavy duty outdoor version we use. But that number is for CAT6
I believe
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:21:57 
To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was obviously
made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a woods
just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone know
what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be great.

 

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com

 

 

 





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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
I've used that Mohawk cable but I actually prefer the Superior Essex stuff
recommended by 3db.  I believe it was for the PTP400/500 products.

Both work just as well, but the Superior Essex is a bit cheaper.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill


On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:

 Was looking for something more like this

 http://www.mohawk-cable.com/images/products/pdf/lantrak%20cat%205e%20sctp.pd
 f


 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
 Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:32 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

 1351A is the heavy duty outdoor version we use. But that number is for CAT6
 I believe
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:21:57
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

 I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was obviously
 made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a woods
 just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone know
 what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be great.



 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com










 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-03 Thread Lawrence E. Bakst
I can recommend both versions of Mohawk cable. The burial cable is very stiff 
because of the thick plastic inner jacket. The aerial lash cable is the one I 
have the most experience with. Both cabled are flooded with silicon goo on 
the inside. It is messy but it cleans up very easily with an orange based 
cleaner.

The Mohawk cable come in a bunch of versions CAT5+. CAT-6, CAT6+ ...

In all cases the outer jacket is made from Polyethylene which is key for 
outdoor use.

One thing, it can be hard to find RJ-45 connector made for this cable. I tried 
to convince Mohawk to pay someone to make connectors just for these cables, but 
I don't think they wanted to spend the $.


leb



At 12:58 PM -0500 2/3/10, Josh Luthman wrote:
I've used that Mohawk cable but I actually prefer the Superior Essex stuff
recommended by 3db.  I believe it was for the PTP400/500 products.

Both work just as well, but the Superior Essex is a bit cheaper.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.
--- Winston Churchill


On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:

 Was looking for something more like this

 http://www.mohawk-cable.com/images/products/pdf/lantrak%20cat%205e%20sctp.pd
 f


 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
 Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:32 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

 1351A is the heavy duty outdoor version we use. But that number is for CAT6
 I believe
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:21:57
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

 I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was obviously
 made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a woods
 just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone know
 what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be great.



 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com










 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-03 Thread Steven McGehee
We've ran many thousands of feet of 'outdoor grade' Mohawk ethernet 
cable, love the stuff. As for putting RJ-45 ends on them, we get the 
Allen-Tel brand RC ends -- RC being Round Cable. Makes getting the 
outdoor sheath up into the RJ-45 end a piece of cake. You can get packs 
of 50 from Graybar for fairly cheap.





Lawrence E. Bakst wrote:
 I can recommend both versions of Mohawk cable. The burial cable is very stiff 
 because of the thick plastic inner jacket. The aerial lash cable is the one I 
 have the most experience with. Both cabled are flooded with silicon goo on 
 the inside. It is messy but it cleans up very easily with an orange based 
 cleaner.

 The Mohawk cable come in a bunch of versions CAT5+. CAT-6, CAT6+ ...

 In all cases the outer jacket is made from Polyethylene which is key for 
 outdoor use.

 One thing, it can be hard to find RJ-45 connector made for this cable. I 
 tried to convince Mohawk to pay someone to make connectors just for these 
 cables, but I don't think they wanted to spend the $.


 leb



 At 12:58 PM -0500 2/3/10, Josh Luthman wrote:
   
 I've used that Mohawk cable but I actually prefer the Superior Essex stuff
 recommended by 3db.  I believe it was for the PTP400/500 products.

 Both work just as well, but the Superior Essex is a bit cheaper.

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 On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:

 
 Was looking for something more like this

 http://www.mohawk-cable.com/images/products/pdf/lantrak%20cat%205e%20sctp.pd
 f


 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
 Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:32 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

 1351A is the heavy duty outdoor version we use. But that number is for CAT6
 I believe
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:21:57
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

 I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was obviously
 made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a woods
 just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone know
 what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be great.



 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com










 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-03 Thread Matt
 We've ran many thousands of feet of 'outdoor grade' Mohawk ethernet
 cable, love the stuff. As for putting RJ-45 ends on them, we get the
 Allen-Tel brand RC ends -- RC being Round Cable. Makes getting the
 outdoor sheath up into the RJ-45 end a piece of cake. You can get packs
 of 50 from Graybar for fairly cheap.

Is that shielded cable and connectors?

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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-03 Thread Steven McGehee
It is not; sorry, I may have misread some of the earlier discussion in  
this thread.

-via my iPhone

On Feb 3, 2010, at 19:18, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote:

 We've ran many thousands of feet of 'outdoor grade' Mohawk ethernet
 cable, love the stuff. As for putting RJ-45 ends on them, we get the
 Allen-Tel brand RC ends -- RC being Round Cable. Makes getting the
 outdoor sheath up into the RJ-45 end a piece of cake. You can get  
 packs
 of 50 from Graybar for fairly cheap.

 Is that shielded cable and connectors?

 Matt


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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-03 Thread Robert West
Man, I was wondering where I left that cable.  I tend to forget where I put
cables, sometimes.  It's a thing.

Bob-



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:22 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was obviously
made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a woods
just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone know
what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be great.

 

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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-03 Thread Jayson Baker
We get outs from Sean at CTI.  It's dual-jacketed, shielded, has a drain
wire, and the outer jacket is UV resistent.  Plus, it's cheaper than the
other stuff, and excellent quality.
Let him know I sent you.  :-)

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:

 I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was obviously
 made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a woods
 just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone know
 what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be great.



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 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com










 
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Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

2010-02-03 Thread Robert West
He sent me a quote on 5 rolls like..  Oh..  a month ago?
Looked the same as what we use only cheaper.  Sorry, Sean!  Will be sending
that order in as soon as I have time to do things other than constant
posting random gibberish on the WISPA list at midnight.  Priorities,
ya know.

Bob-



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jayson Baker
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:41 PM
To: WISPA General List; svanwor...@cticonnect.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e

We get outs from Sean at CTI.  It's dual-jacketed, shielded, has a drain
wire, and the outer jacket is UV resistent.  Plus, it's cheaper than the
other stuff, and excellent quality.
Let him know I sent you.  :-)

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:

 I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was
obviously
 made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a woods
 just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone know
 what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be
great.



 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com













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