Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
I'd like to take credit for all of it, but my partner who has been designing antennas of one kind or another for more than 50 years now actually came up with the optimized slot pattern. I took that, had it machined, and then optimized the feed position and length so we didn't have to use tuning screws to get it right. The whole thing was adapted form an array of slotted waveguides that he designed as part of the ILS system for airplanes. He's one smart cookie. I've learned more from him than I ever learned in engineering school. Cameron On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: Impressive! marlon - Original Message - From: cc...@dot11net.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? 6 degrees on the vertical. Slotted waveguides are phenomenal performers. This isn't your average t-line patch. We had it tested on the Antenna Products range in Mineral Wells, TX. The patterns were measured in both the E and H planes and we tested several units to verify. They even have some nice electrical downtilt built in. Cameron 18.5 dB of gain? And 105 * of horizontal coverage? That thing has got to be what, 1* or less of vertical coverage? 2* at best? Here's one for you guys to. I didn't take a pic but it was made completely out of pvc pipe. Even labeled as such. Had a cap on the top, pipe for the omni tube, and a cap with a hole drilled for a bulkhead connector on the bottom. NO weep hole anywhere. Sealed with only black tape. So much water had gotten into the system that 50' down, at the amp, there was rust on the connector INSIDE the outdoor box that was used. No that wasn't my installation, I was pulling out someone else's that never did work right :-) marlon - Original Message - From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? Here is one that we made for 2.4not MDK's but we used ours for 7years. Ours is 18.5 dBi (range tested by the way) about 105 degree beamwidth. This one is V pol. We did a design for H pol, but the specs were very similar to those old Hpol guides from PAC so we just ened up using those where we neede H-pol. I do however have Hpol 5 GHz (about 17 dBi, 95 degree BW) and Hpol 5 GHz Omni's (about 10 dBi) as well. We don't really sell them, but I have a couple laying around that I could part with if someone really wanted some. I don't have any of the omni's as those we're a one time build and we didn't do many, but could get some cut if someone REALLY wanted some. I've attached the PDF and some pics from on top of a tower since the images in the PDF aren't great. On the tower pic, the 2.4 is on the left and the 5 gig is on the right. Pic is from behind so it's hard to see much, but these both have the protective covers on them anyway, so not a whole lot to see on the fronts. Cameron On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled. BTW how about a photo and spec on that our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 and solid dishes. ) netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving strange, and it got replaced. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11
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The nearest possible clients to this site are 4 miles, and most are at 10 to 20 miles. Nope, never had any real interference issues, and I'm definitely not over EIRP limits. I got my space planted first, and everyone else moved around me. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:52 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? What that really means is that you are likely running far too large of an antenna. You're also going to find yourself interfering with your own network far more than is healthy with things that run this way! marlon - Original Message - From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
I found a spreadsheet online that let you calculate the slots and positions, and designed my own radiating element. Never had the money to do that kind of testing, but our seat of the pants best guess is about 18-19 db. I redid the radiating element a few times, finding it was poorly tuned when moving up or down the frequency range tended to kill the gain (rssi). My most distant client has been in excess of 29 miles. currently ,ti's about 26 or so now. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: cc...@dot11net.com Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:51 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? 6 degrees on the vertical. Slotted waveguides are phenomenal performers. This isn't your average t-line patch. We had it tested on the Antenna Products range in Mineral Wells, TX. The patterns were measured in both the E and H planes and we tested several units to verify. They even have some nice electrical downtilt built in. Cameron 18.5 dB of gain? And 105 * of horizontal coverage? That thing has got to be what, 1* or less of vertical coverage? 2* at best? Here's one for you guys to. I didn't take a pic but it was made completely out of pvc pipe. Even labeled as such. Had a cap on the top, pipe for the omni tube, and a cap with a hole drilled for a bulkhead connector on the bottom. NO weep hole anywhere. Sealed with only black tape. So much water had gotten into the system that 50' down, at the amp, there was rust on the connector INSIDE the outdoor box that was used. No that wasn't my installation, I was pulling out someone else's that never did work right :-) marlon - Original Message - From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? Here is one that we made for 2.4not MDK's but we used ours for 7years. Ours is 18.5 dBi (range tested by the way) about 105 degree beamwidth. This one is V pol. We did a design for H pol, but the specs were very similar to those old Hpol guides from PAC so we just ened up using those where we neede H-pol. I do however have Hpol 5 GHz (about 17 dBi, 95 degree BW) and Hpol 5 GHz Omni's (about 10 dBi) as well. We don't really sell them, but I have a couple laying around that I could part with if someone really wanted some. I don't have any of the omni's as those we're a one time build and we didn't do many, but could get some cut if someone REALLY wanted some. I've attached the PDF and some pics from on top of a tower since the images in the PDF aren't great. On the tower pic, the 2.4 is on the left and the 5 gig is on the right. Pic is from behind so it's hard to see much, but these both have the protective covers on them anyway, so not a whole lot to see on the fronts. Cameron On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled. BTW how about a photo and spec on that our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 and solid dishes. ) netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving strange, and it got replaced. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
What's the vertical beam width? Any idea? Greg On Jun 14, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: Here is one that we made for 2.4not MDK's but we used ours for 7years. Ours is 18.5 dBi (range tested by the way) about 105 degree beamwidth. This one is V pol. We did a design for H pol, but the specs were very similar to those old Hpol guides from PAC so we just ened up using those where we neede H-pol. I do however have Hpol 5 GHz (about 17 dBi, 95 degree BW) and Hpol 5 GHz Omni's (about 10 dBi) as well. We don't really sell them, but I have a couple laying around that I could part with if someone really wanted some. I don't have any of the omni's as those we're a one time build and we didn't do many, but could get some cut if someone REALLY wanted some. I've attached the PDF and some pics from on top of a tower since the images in the PDF aren't great. On the tower pic, the 2.4 is on the left and the 5 gig is on the right. Pic is from behind so it's hard to see much, but these both have the protective covers on them anyway, so not a whole lot to see on the fronts. Cameron On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled. BTW how about a photo and spec on that our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 and solid dishes. ) netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving strange, and it got replaced. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
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It is in the pdf, but 6 degrees in case you missed it. Cameron On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: What's the vertical beam width? Any idea? Greg On Jun 14, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: Here is one that we made for 2.4not MDK's but we used ours for 7years. Ours is 18.5 dBi (range tested by the way) about 105 degree beamwidth. This one is V pol. We did a design for H pol, but the specs were very similar to those old Hpol guides from PAC so we just ened up using those where we neede H-pol. I do however have Hpol 5 GHz (about 17 dBi, 95 degree BW) and Hpol 5 GHz Omni's (about 10 dBi) as well. We don't really sell them, but I have a couple laying around that I could part with if someone really wanted some. I don't have any of the omni's as those we're a one time build and we didn't do many, but could get some cut if someone REALLY wanted some. I've attached the PDF and some pics from on top of a tower since the images in the PDF aren't great. On the tower pic, the 2.4 is on the left and the 5 gig is on the right. Pic is from behind so it's hard to see much, but these both have the protective covers on them anyway, so not a whole lot to see on the fronts. Cameron On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote: I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled. BTW how about a photo and spec on that our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 and solid dishes. ) netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving strange, and it got replaced. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
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For 5GHz the only integrated option is dual polarity 60°-Az x 7°-El pattern. For 3GHz we use high performance SectorShape(tm) antennas. we designed them and own IP. These units come in 60 and 90 degrees with 6°-El. These units more expensive but allow our 3.65GHz system to implement adjacent sector adjacent channel planning (even though it's not recommended) Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company T: +1 (804) 864-4125 M: +1 (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Greg Ihnen [mailto:os10ru...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? What's the vertical beam width? Any idea? Greg On Jun 14, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: Here is one that we made for 2.4not MDK's but we used ours for 7years. Ours is 18.5 dBi (range tested by the way) about 105 degree beamwidth. This one is V pol. We did a design for H pol, but the specs were very similar to those old Hpol guides from PAC so we just ened up using those where we neede H-pol. I do however have Hpol 5 GHz (about 17 dBi, 95 degree BW) and Hpol 5 GHz Omni's (about 10 dBi) as well. We don't really sell them, but I have a couple laying around that I could part with if someone really wanted some. I don't have any of the omni's as those we're a one time build and we didn't do many, but could get some cut if someone REALLY wanted some. I've attached the PDF and some pics from on top of a tower since the images in the PDF aren't great. On the tower pic, the 2.4 is on the left and the 5 gig is on the right. Pic is from behind so it's hard to see much, but these both have the protective covers on them anyway, so not a whole lot to see on the fronts. Cameron On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled. BTW how about a photo and spec on that our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 and solid dishes. ) netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving strange, and it got replaced. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal
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What that really means is that you are likely running far too large of an antenna. You're also going to find yourself interfering with your own network far more than is healthy with things that run this way! marlon - Original Message - From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
18.5 dB of gain? And 105 * of horizontal coverage? That thing has got to be what, 1* or less of vertical coverage? 2* at best? Here's one for you guys to. I didn't take a pic but it was made completely out of pvc pipe. Even labeled as such. Had a cap on the top, pipe for the omni tube, and a cap with a hole drilled for a bulkhead connector on the bottom. NO weep hole anywhere. Sealed with only black tape. So much water had gotten into the system that 50' down, at the amp, there was rust on the connector INSIDE the outdoor box that was used. No that wasn't my installation, I was pulling out someone else's that never did work right :-) marlon - Original Message - From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? Here is one that we made for 2.4not MDK's but we used ours for 7years. Ours is 18.5 dBi (range tested by the way) about 105 degree beamwidth. This one is V pol. We did a design for H pol, but the specs were very similar to those old Hpol guides from PAC so we just ened up using those where we neede H-pol. I do however have Hpol 5 GHz (about 17 dBi, 95 degree BW) and Hpol 5 GHz Omni's (about 10 dBi) as well. We don't really sell them, but I have a couple laying around that I could part with if someone really wanted some. I don't have any of the omni's as those we're a one time build and we didn't do many, but could get some cut if someone REALLY wanted some. I've attached the PDF and some pics from on top of a tower since the images in the PDF aren't great. On the tower pic, the 2.4 is on the left and the 5 gig is on the right. Pic is from behind so it's hard to see much, but these both have the protective covers on them anyway, so not a whole lot to see on the fronts. Cameron On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled. BTW how about a photo and spec on that our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 and solid dishes. ) netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving strange, and it got replaced. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
6 degrees on the vertical. Slotted waveguides are phenomenal performers. This isn't your average t-line patch. We had it tested on the Antenna Products range in Mineral Wells, TX. The patterns were measured in both the E and H planes and we tested several units to verify. They even have some nice electrical downtilt built in. Cameron 18.5 dB of gain? And 105 * of horizontal coverage? That thing has got to be what, 1* or less of vertical coverage? 2* at best? Here's one for you guys to. I didn't take a pic but it was made completely out of pvc pipe. Even labeled as such. Had a cap on the top, pipe for the omni tube, and a cap with a hole drilled for a bulkhead connector on the bottom. NO weep hole anywhere. Sealed with only black tape. So much water had gotten into the system that 50' down, at the amp, there was rust on the connector INSIDE the outdoor box that was used. No that wasn't my installation, I was pulling out someone else's that never did work right :-) marlon - Original Message - From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? Here is one that we made for 2.4not MDK's but we used ours for 7years. Ours is 18.5 dBi (range tested by the way) about 105 degree beamwidth. This one is V pol. We did a design for H pol, but the specs were very similar to those old Hpol guides from PAC so we just ened up using those where we neede H-pol. I do however have Hpol 5 GHz (about 17 dBi, 95 degree BW) and Hpol 5 GHz Omni's (about 10 dBi) as well. We don't really sell them, but I have a couple laying around that I could part with if someone really wanted some. I don't have any of the omni's as those we're a one time build and we didn't do many, but could get some cut if someone REALLY wanted some. I've attached the PDF and some pics from on top of a tower since the images in the PDF aren't great. On the tower pic, the 2.4 is on the left and the 5 gig is on the right. Pic is from behind so it's hard to see much, but these both have the protective covers on them anyway, so not a whole lot to see on the fronts. Cameron On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled. BTW how about a photo and spec on that our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 and solid dishes. ) netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving strange, and it got replaced. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
Impressive! marlon - Original Message - From: cc...@dot11net.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? 6 degrees on the vertical. Slotted waveguides are phenomenal performers. This isn't your average t-line patch. We had it tested on the Antenna Products range in Mineral Wells, TX. The patterns were measured in both the E and H planes and we tested several units to verify. They even have some nice electrical downtilt built in. Cameron 18.5 dB of gain? And 105 * of horizontal coverage? That thing has got to be what, 1* or less of vertical coverage? 2* at best? Here's one for you guys to. I didn't take a pic but it was made completely out of pvc pipe. Even labeled as such. Had a cap on the top, pipe for the omni tube, and a cap with a hole drilled for a bulkhead connector on the bottom. NO weep hole anywhere. Sealed with only black tape. So much water had gotten into the system that 50' down, at the amp, there was rust on the connector INSIDE the outdoor box that was used. No that wasn't my installation, I was pulling out someone else's that never did work right :-) marlon - Original Message - From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? Here is one that we made for 2.4not MDK's but we used ours for 7years. Ours is 18.5 dBi (range tested by the way) about 105 degree beamwidth. This one is V pol. We did a design for H pol, but the specs were very similar to those old Hpol guides from PAC so we just ened up using those where we neede H-pol. I do however have Hpol 5 GHz (about 17 dBi, 95 degree BW) and Hpol 5 GHz Omni's (about 10 dBi) as well. We don't really sell them, but I have a couple laying around that I could part with if someone really wanted some. I don't have any of the omni's as those we're a one time build and we didn't do many, but could get some cut if someone REALLY wanted some. I've attached the PDF and some pics from on top of a tower since the images in the PDF aren't great. On the tower pic, the 2.4 is on the left and the 5 gig is on the right. Pic is from behind so it's hard to see much, but these both have the protective covers on them anyway, so not a whole lot to see on the fronts. Cameron On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled. BTW how about a photo and spec on that our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 and solid dishes. ) netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving strange, and it got replaced. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
with a 1W amp. Chuck Profito wrote: probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I'm not sure I buy it...I can see you picking up the signal, but there is no way in hell that a netbook can transmit that far. On 06/12/2010 11:34 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: with a 1W amp. Chuck Profito wrote: probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
As a long ago CB'er I have to ask, can there be skip on the 2.4 range? :) Purrrdy soon we'll be yellin 'breaker' to some leeeneir driven AP just south of the border, streamin Wolfman Spam... but i digress. On 6/11/2010 10:16 PM, MDK wrote: This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Skip in microwave bands is usually tropospheric ducting. Yes, signals can propagate WAY farther than you could imagine when such an event is happening. Here in Central Iowa the events have far exceeded the seasonal norm already this year. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 11:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? As a long ago CB'er I have to ask, can there be skip on the 2.4 range? :) Purrrdy soon we'll be yellin 'breaker' to some leeeneir driven AP just south of the border, streamin Wolfman Spam... but i digress. On 6/11/2010 10:16 PM, MDK wrote: This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
Forbes,but i digress. I know I started the wise a.. remarks, but yes you do! ;-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? As a long ago CB'er I have to ask, can there be skip on the 2.4 range? :) Purrrdy soon we'll be yellin 'breaker' to some leeeneir driven AP just south of the border, streamin Wolfman Spam... but i digress. On 6/11/2010 10:16 PM, MDK wrote: This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 and solid dishes. ) netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving strange, and it got replaced. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled. BTW how about a photo and spec on that our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 and solid dishes. ) netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving strange, and it got replaced. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
I think you meant our (non-FCC approved) own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. Travis Chuck Profito wrote: I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled. BTW how about a photo and spec on that our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 and solid dishes. ) netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving strange, and it got replaced. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
Let's NOT go there again... Travis Johnson wrote: I think you meant "our (non-FCC approved) own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector". Travis Chuck Profito wrote: I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled. BTW how about a photo and spec on that " our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector" Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-Access, Inc. www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com Providing Broadband Internet Access to California's Rural Central Valley -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, either. ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 and solid dishes. ) netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector. For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving strange, and it got replaced. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: "Chuck Profito" cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM To: "'WISPA General List'" wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? probably a ruckus on the other end -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind? This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to "any" so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?
This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it. After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi card it came with. I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google on the browser to confirm connectivity. Google popped up, meaning things were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test. I got about 30KB/s speed, which is like painfully slow. I was standing outside, with the netbook sitting on the hood of my truck. So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access point ... 11 MILES AWAY! I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant. It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook. I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp assignment, and transfer data. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
